EU4: Domination - Development Stacking Netherlands - ep1

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  • EU4: Domination - Development Stacking Netherlands
    Welcome to my Europa Universalis 4 Domination run as the Netherlands! I will start as Holland and will try to get all the development stacking modifiers possible. I will also go for a very low advisor cost reduction and high trade steering modifiers. Have fun!
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  • @FlyingDutchy
    @FlyingDutchy  Před rokem +14

    Have fun with this more 'tallish' gameplay with development stacking modifiers and ship trade power! Spreadsheet run time xD

    • @cattooo7273
      @cattooo7273 Před rokem +1

      Loved the video! Could you link the spreadsheets you use if that's possible?

    • @BalefireBird
      @BalefireBird Před rokem +1

      Yeah, we remember how did your last "tall Netherlands" campaign ended up.

    • @FlyingDutchy
      @FlyingDutchy  Před rokem

      XD

  • @secr0
    @secr0 Před rokem +41

    By the power of spreadsheets invested in me...

  • @markkharitonov4683
    @markkharitonov4683 Před rokem +20

    Calvinists enjoy a -10% dev cost, so you could stack it a bit higher still.
    Edit. You can also try getting the Diamond district to spawn in Antwerp. It's pretty much a prestige rush.

  • @buws2
    @buws2 Před rokem +9

    I think you should always choose the plus one mana point in all the estates. If you take it at the beginning of the campaign and never revoke you make 4500 additional points each throughout the campaign. Really worth it

    • @andrewgreenwood9068
      @andrewgreenwood9068 Před rokem +1

      If you aren't playing a country that needs crown land (the Teutons, dai Viet ECT) absolutely.

    • @buws2
      @buws2 Před rokem

      @@andrewgreenwood9068 it's so simple to get back to 20% of crownlands within the first couple of years through conquest and seize... It makes really no sense not to take those three privileges.

  • @vnixned2
    @vnixned2 Před rokem +17

    if only the Dutch mission tree were to get a bit of a boost and upgrade like how the French etc. missions were

    • @FlyingDutchy
      @FlyingDutchy  Před rokem +1

      That would be insane

    • @vnixned2
      @vnixned2 Před rokem +2

      @@FlyingDutchy would be cool though. I miss Big Boss' mod Flavour Universalis, he had a gread mission tree for Holland/Netherlands. Europa Expanded is going to take it on, some time from now, but it's till on the backburner.
      Big Boss btw is now a game dev at Paradox, and he's responsible for (a.o.) the Lubeck tree, so fingers crossed he might get his Dutch tree implemented!

    • @Venslor
      @Venslor Před rokem +1

      Agreed. The Dutch mission tree is definitely showing it's age compared to the newer mission trees. I'd say they're on par without about as bad as the Ottomans were before the most recent patch. So much of the tree just doesn't make practical sense and doesn't really flow well. I hope that they get an update and maybe another monument in the lowlands regions.

    • @vnixned2
      @vnixned2 Před rokem

      @@Venslor if the Flavor Universalis tree gets implemented, you'll gain plenty of monuments and a great mission tree. I so hope it will! For now I'm just waiting for EE's implementation of the FU tree perhaps with some modifications to it still

  • @alatamore
    @alatamore Před rokem +3

    Yes! I loved the run you did stacking dev as the Dutch before, so I can’t wait for this new one.

  • @subpages
    @subpages Před rokem +2

    yay! another dutch campaign!

  • @patropro
    @patropro Před rokem +1

    Just started my first eu4 playthrough as the dutch really looking forward for your playthrough as well

  • @jacobhammock3355
    @jacobhammock3355 Před rokem +1

    I just did a dutch run. Reformed religion has been buffed. You can get -10 dev with reformed. You can run one of the focus' all the time now. Reformed is great.

    • @FlyingDutchy
      @FlyingDutchy  Před rokem +1

      True. Maybe I go reformed instead. Protestant has this advisor cost reduction thing. But I guess I can get it by conquering great project provinces.

    • @jacobhammock3355
      @jacobhammock3355 Před rokem +1

      I watched every episode of your last dutch run haha. Excited for this o e

    • @sld1776
      @sld1776 Před rokem +1

      For advisor cost discount the Inno + Espionage opening is best. Though of course is not the best opening for your gameplay.

  • @pimvandeurzen4461
    @pimvandeurzen4461 Před rokem +3

    I did a run as Utrecht into Netherlands recently stacking siege modifiers, taking divine, innovative, espionage and offensive ideas, it was one of my most fun Netherlands games I have ever done! Insta sieging provinces and taking only a few days for forts

  • @Venslor
    @Venslor Před rokem +4

    Playing as Holland your first age objective should be transfer subjects. You can steal Flanders and Brabant from Burgundy for insanely lower AE and then use the pope feature to annex them more cheaply. Add in the lower aggressive expansion later and you're set. Why free them only to take them again? Also, if you declare your war in Nevers territory, you can just walk right into France at the start of the war and you don't have to worry about your soldiers getting stack wiped.

    • @johnlashlee1315
      @johnlashlee1315 Před rokem +1

      In this scenario what is your desired peace deal in your independence war?

    • @Venslor
      @Venslor Před rokem

      @@johnlashlee1315 So, I don't pretend to be one of the most aggressive players, I hate dealing with coalitions because it seems like my allies will betray me at the worst moment. In my first war with Burgundy, I take independence and I break some alliances or things like that, maybe giving some land to France/Austria for extra favors, but both in Burgundy, not the lowlands. I want a reasonable, but not huge truce. I have things to do and prepare for elsewhere. I also, will not usually take money from Burgundy, but I will when I peace out their allies. War reps and money from them. If you take all Burgundy's money, they'll do a subject interaction which can make Brabant revolt. I don't want that. I'll also kill noble rebels in Brabant or Flanders if I can. I want to steal the country from (at that time) 60% less AOE (both age objectives). Meanwhile, during the war, I am spying on Utrecht, but not for Utrecht, their other province.
      I use the favors with France if I get stuck in a bad early war situation where I get inconveniently stack wiped or something like. Here comes big brother France to solve all my early game problems. My first real war is against (usually Utrecht because they have a single weak ally.) a Dutch minor. Make sure you set them as a rival, and declare war. I take their non-capital province and humiliate them, because I'm rushing the age objective. This gives me easier access to Friesland. Improve relations with Flanders and spy on England. If Flanders gets Renaissance before I can get it in Amsterdam, I'll get it faster if we have friendly relations.
      When France and England's truce is up *I* declare for Calais. I do not let France declare their own wars against England or Burgundy. I control these wars and the peace deals. Always. I will take Calais in this war, and give France something down South. I don't want them to take Normandy yet, because that will give them claims on some land I either have, or want, so I try to prevent that. I also want Calais so I can easily walk right in and get the land in Picardy that I want in the next peace deal with Burgundy.
      When Renaissance spawns, I dev up Amsterdam to 30 for the age objective. At this point, I have 30 dev city, humiliate rival, and I should be working to getting Renaissance in all my provinces.
      From there, I will usually take a Picardy province, release them and steal Burgundy's vassal if I have that age objective complete. Usually Flanders so I can walk down to Calais instead of using transports. I'll pick off the Dutch minors as time goes on depending on AOE, and Ost Friesland is usually one I'm able to diplo-vassalize.
      From there I just sort of strike wherever the iron is hot. I'll release Picardy and Hainaut, diplo-vassalize Osst Friesland and Luxembourg, and my computer crashes if the Burgundy inheritance happens in like 1455. I really need to update. haha I hope this helps a bit. I've play Holland a lot and I hate coalitions. haha

  • @chellybub
    @chellybub Před rokem +3

    Lol how many times did you re-roll that start? I mean, Austria France and Denmark all rival Burgundy. None of them Ally Burgundy. None of them rival each other. It's crazy. I have re-rolled about 50 times and never even came close to a start that good. You got very lucky hahaha 🤣 love the series by the way, very very cool. I do love playing the Netherlands ❤

  • @zayngaming708
    @zayngaming708 Před rokem +2

    I remember the Netherlands run before and ready for this one too ❤️

  • @kellymcbright5456
    @kellymcbright5456 Před rokem +1

    A little hint?
    When enemy troops are moving around your sieging army, you can divide it, leaving back just one regiment on the siege. And moving all the rest into a nearby battle. Once the battle is over, move the army back to siege. The siege won't further progress during the battle, but continue afterwards.
    Just one reg. is required to uphold the siege.

  • @arturebeling7536
    @arturebeling7536 Před rokem +3

    Respekt für den Plan , bin mal gespannt wie weit die Holzschuhe kommen.

  • @DaxRaider
    @DaxRaider Před rokem +2

    estate is changed to -15% advisor cost

  • @sumedhmayekar6580
    @sumedhmayekar6580 Před rokem +2

    Awesome! If any nation is my favourite for playing in Europe, its Holland. Love to see a new take on them. I hope you still take out the English though.
    Instead of Maritime, you could go naval, those ship combat bonuses are quite good and also fit in the role play of being the dominant naval power.
    Playing as them is a real treat. I had managed to net over 5k per month towards the end game in one of my runs playing as them.

  • @joshuatitanicdodomaster9826

    I love how you say Amsterdam in the dutch version and not english only a dutch persoon will knows that

  • @timtrio9862
    @timtrio9862 Před rokem +1

    I am gonna also try get more dev cost reduction now. Btw try maritime - expansion for colonial gameplay (got this idea from the students channel)

  • @ozgurbaltutan3536
    @ozgurbaltutan3536 Před rokem +2

    have you thought about not getting exploration and getting expansion only than getting the explorer through the estates with increased range? you can get maritime instead with absurd amount of ship trade power and naval force limit, also for the end goal you can think of forming hanseatic league with insane trade ideas and permanent bonuses from the lubeck tree (you just need lubeck, bremen, hamburg and not more than 25 cities, so maybe not an end goal because colonial cities also count)

    • @timtrio9862
      @timtrio9862 Před rokem +1

      I am doing a simular netherlands run but took maritime first since you need tech 7 plus colonial advisor to reach africa and yes with the estate you can get your explorer instead of exploration ideas. With maritime i could deal with england and portugal and aragon in one war with the french land support tho. Blockade england for 5 years :)

  • @user-dg9zv4bk7t
    @user-dg9zv4bk7t Před rokem +2

    For admin efficiency you can also get a monument that is inside of Granada, i think it's 5% extra (Alhambra)

    • @FlyingDutchy
      @FlyingDutchy  Před rokem

      Oh interesting. No religion or culture needed?

    • @user-dg9zv4bk7t
      @user-dg9zv4bk7t Před rokem +1

      @@FlyingDutchy Indeed from what I remember it has no requirements, although it will be pricey since you only get the bonus at max level so it's probably not a think you can rush early game but more for mid game

    • @FlyingDutchy
      @FlyingDutchy  Před rokem

      it is admin efficiency, which doesn't count for developing i.i.r.c.

  • @gunterke
    @gunterke Před rokem +1

    Stadhouder doens't mean City-Holder. That's just a litteral translation, but that misses the historical meaning.
    Stadhouder means place-holder, someone who performs the duty for someone else. It comes from French, as it was started by the French speaking Burgundian Dukes in the Low Countries. They enacted a system where there were lieu (place) tenants (holders). Willem of Orange and other local nobles were stadhouder of some regions of the Low Countries for Charles V and his son Phillip II. In the Habsburg Netherlands they were the level of power behind the Landvoogd who were appointed to govern the entire Low Countries on behalf of the Duke/King.
    When the Dutch broke free, this position was actually no longer necessary, but they decided to keep it and it became the highest function in the Republic (they did abolish the position of Landvoogd).

  • @jevonjames3241
    @jevonjames3241 Před rokem +1

    Eyy another Netherlands run

  • @334outdoors8
    @334outdoors8 Před rokem +1

    I feel like defensive idea should get a bonus for The Netherlands like treating the lowland provinces as marsh or something

  • @trem4181
    @trem4181 Před rokem +2

    i am not a native english speaker so i might not understood it but isnt "does not lose crown land share form developing provinces" a bad thing ? especially if you are stacking dev ?

  • @ichigo_nyanko
    @ichigo_nyanko Před rokem +1

    Why don't you pick the +1 point estate privledges? Surely extra points would be the best thing you could possibly have in a tall game?

  • @topproducts9976
    @topproducts9976 Před rokem +1

    The netherlands video was the first i watched of you haha

    • @FlyingDutchy
      @FlyingDutchy  Před rokem +1

      Awesome! Let's see if this one gets even better.

  • @Dack-i
    @Dack-i Před rokem +1

    Hi could you maybe do a megachmapign with Holland or any other nation you want from like ck3 to hoi4
    Also what’s the best dlc for this game I have gotten in to it reseeny but don’t want to use 400 bucks on all dlc

  • @Katoho97
    @Katoho97 Před rokem +1

    You can change goverment reform at 50 since it always cost only 50 to change from one to another

  • @MrKinglyProductions
    @MrKinglyProductions Před rokem +1

    can you link a copy of the sheet please

  • @ohNojames
    @ohNojames Před rokem +1

    Can you get aristocratic before switching? Probably not worth it because other idea groups are better but I’m curious?

    • @FlyingDutchy
      @FlyingDutchy  Před rokem

      I have no idea. More people said that I could have gone for aristocratic first. I never did that before though.

    • @sld1776
      @sld1776 Před rokem +1

      Yes. You keep it as long as it is already selected. In theory you could go Indigenous/Horde/Aristocratic/Plutocratic in a single game.

  • @Terraceview
    @Terraceview Před 11 měsíci +1

    I did everything exactly like you did on easy difficulty and got completely destroyed by Burgundy before you even had a proper fight. Why?

    • @FlyingDutchy
      @FlyingDutchy  Před 11 měsíci

      Burgundy is too strong you need help of France and or Austria.

  • @Zygmunt-Zen
    @Zygmunt-Zen Před rokem +1

    I am stuck in a loop of only playing France, Milan and Holland.

  • @anonguy6523
    @anonguy6523 Před rokem +1

    You don’t get the +1 mana privilege for your estates?

    • @patropro
      @patropro Před rokem +1

      I think because of 30 loyalty after seizing, but idk im new to the game

    • @FlyingDutchy
      @FlyingDutchy  Před rokem

      Maybe I will but it almost becomes obsolete

  • @ilgwang-gidae
    @ilgwang-gidae Před rokem +1

    Ace

  • @zarlay255
    @zarlay255 Před rokem +1

    Reform now give dev cost.
    Its 10%, so go Reform,

    • @FlyingDutchy
      @FlyingDutchy  Před rokem

      I go for protestant -5 so I can get the advisor cost reduction so I can get lvl 5 advisors earlier

  • @the_spicesea_admiral
    @the_spicesea_admiral Před rokem +1

    17:30 loevesteiners*

    • @B_men_apo
      @B_men_apo Před rokem +2

      Or staatsgezinden or republicans

  • @JM_daDoc
    @JM_daDoc Před rokem +1

    "the other group for the republic" might be republicans?? pepeLaugh

  • @wessel6795
    @wessel6795 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Artois = Atrecht