Are They Comparable To Classic Vintage Pedals?

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  • @VertexEffectsInc
    @VertexEffectsInc  Před 2 lety +2

    Watch the RESULTS video here: czcams.com/video/__7zCEWTTZU/video.html

  • @joshcarlton9184
    @joshcarlton9184 Před 3 lety +3

    I cannot put into words how much I appreciate how thorough and precise this breakdown is with its respect to tone distinctions. If I needed surgery or a lawyer, this is the guy I would hire.
    Much love, mad respect. Thank you Mason

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety

      Thanks Josh! Be sure to put in your answers! We'd love to count you in the final tally!

  • @LewisDavieMusic
    @LewisDavieMusic Před 3 lety +7

    I don't think I can pick favourites here. They all got ridiculously close, it's quite incredible. No way a listener at a gig would be able to tell them apart.
    Excellent playing too!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      But if you had to choose???

    • @LewisDavieMusic
      @LewisDavieMusic Před 3 lety +2

      @@VertexEffectsInc Argh! Okay, I'll try...
      TS: 3 for Strat, 1 for LP
      BB: 3 for Strat, 1 for LP
      Klon: 3 for Strat, 1 for LP
      Pedal 2 was really toppy and I never really liked how it sounded. The others were much trickier to choose between but I seem to have landed on the same results for each comparison. And again I really have to commend your playing.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      @@LewisDavieMusic Thanks for weighing in!

  • @joegearing1745
    @joegearing1745 Před 3 lety +5

    Option 3 always seemed to have the mids that the originals had. All options sound pretty fantastic, 3 seemed closer to the original. Thanks!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      So Pedal 3 across the board?

    • @joegearing1745
      @joegearing1745 Před 3 lety +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc 1 and 2 always sounded virtually exactly the same to me, and it maybe suited the Klon a little better? So maybe option 3 for the Tube Screamer and Blues Breaker, and lets go with Option 1 for the Klon. Thanks!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      @@joegearing1745 Thanks for weighing in!

  • @AnodyneHipsterInfluencer
    @AnodyneHipsterInfluencer Před 3 lety +3

    TS9 Strat - pedal 1 (w/ 3 a close 2nd)
    TS9 LP - pedal 2
    BB Strat - pedal 2
    BB LP - pedal 3 by far
    Klon Strat - pedal 2 (they all did well here)
    Klon LP - pedal 2 (again, all did well)
    Volume might be an aspect. Also you might come with - "Ha! They were all the same! 😛"

    • @chronicmango
      @chronicmango Před 3 lety +1

      Fully agree with 100% of this.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      Volumes were all the same, some of the distortion at certain frequencies might give the illusion of more volume in some cases, however they're all coming in around -9 on the metering. Thanks for the vote!

  • @BarryCazan
    @BarryCazan Před 3 lety +2

    Great playing, Mason!
    TS Strat: Pedal 2
    TS LP: Pedal 2
    BB Strat: Pedal 3
    BB LP: Pedal 3
    Klon Strat: Pedal 2
    Klon LP: Pedal 1

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for watching and casting your vote!

    • @jacobpittman1996
      @jacobpittman1996 Před 3 lety +1

      It always makes it nicer to watch a comparison or demo video when the playing is good.

  • @jerrymartinez2160
    @jerrymartinez2160 Před 3 lety +3

    Killing it with the videos! Keep it up 👍

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      What about your pedal picks? We'd love your vote to be counted here!

    • @jerrymartinez2160
      @jerrymartinez2160 Před 3 lety

      @@VertexEffectsInc Duelist by KingTone everyday!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety

      @@jerrymartinez2160 Great pedal, but not part of the choices here :)

  • @flashinthepan1965
    @flashinthepan1965 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video! Here are my choices.
    TS: Strat- 1
    LP -3
    BB: Strat- 3
    LP-2
    Klon: Strat 1
    LP- 1

  • @PeterRasker
    @PeterRasker Před 3 lety +1

    Pedal 2 in all cases. Like the experimental approach. Look forward to the results.

  • @kurth.guitar
    @kurth.guitar Před 3 lety +1

    I vote for Pedal 1 on ALL examples. Sounds airy and cool. Thanks for the Video!

  • @BuddyBlues
    @BuddyBlues Před 3 lety +2

    Tubescreamer: Pedal 3 sounded incredible for the strat- the Les Paul part sounded REMARKABLY like Wrong Side Of The Blues 🤣, but I'd also say Pedal 3.
    Blues Breaker: Pedal 1 for the Strat to me sounded identical (but Pedal 3 was my favorite)- for the Les Paul Pedal 3 sounded closest and best to my ears
    Klon: Strat Pedal 3-- Les Paul Pedal 2
    Also more video of Mason playing guitar because DAMN that was good

  • @PeterFerguson9
    @PeterFerguson9 Před 3 lety +1

    Super interesting!
    TS / Strat - Pedal 3
    TS / LP - Pedal 3 by a long shot. LP really highlights the differences!
    BB / Strat - Pedal 3
    BB / LP - Pedal 3 by a LONG shot. Pedal 1 and 2 don't come close.
    K / Strat - Pedal 1 is closest to my ear, but I don't think any of them capture it.
    K / LP - Pedal 1
    Pedal 2 generally feels over-hyped to me. High noise floor, and just a bit too 'forward.'

  • @TheGuitarEffect
    @TheGuitarEffect Před 3 lety +1

    Great video Mr Marangella. Very well thought out and produced. Very easy to follow snd understand. Watched the whole thing.
    One thing that stood out to me is that pedals 1 and 2 sounded like the drive sounds were different when you went from TS-BB-klon. Which makes me think that they are pedals with different preset sounds actually modeling the relevant pedals whereas pedal three sounded like the same pedal every time with changes in drive and tone. It also had the most mids consistently so I reckon 3 is the Nova Drive. Could be wrong though.
    I was struck by how minor the differences were. €100 -€700 in the price difference. Didn’t really sound it.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      Interesting....so what are you final picks? We'd love to count you in the tally

    • @TheGuitarEffect
      @TheGuitarEffect Před 3 lety

      @@VertexEffectsInc OK I’ll take another listen.

    • @TheGuitarEffect
      @TheGuitarEffect Před 3 lety +1

      Strat TS - 2
      LP TS - 2
      Strat BB - 2
      LP BB - 2 - though I didn’t think any sounded good really.
      Strat Klon - 1
      LP Klon - 1
      Crazy how they all made the delay respond slightly differently really interesting
      Oh and shut up! Your playing is great! Really tasty blues player. Good feel.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      @@TheGuitarEffect Thanks for weighing in!

  • @marksguitars5617
    @marksguitars5617 Před 3 lety +2

    cool, very interested in this video and the results, I have the TC Nova drive, wondering how it stacks up. Thanks
    TS-9 - Strat 1, LP3
    Blues Breaker - Strat 3, LP 3
    Klon - Strat 1, LP 2

  • @Mcsteveberry
    @Mcsteveberry Před 3 lety +1

    any video with uncle mason jamming with.a frusciante strat and overdrive is a win by me!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you sir! Please be sure to cast your vote! We'd love to include you!

  • @bmitchellmusic
    @bmitchellmusic Před 2 lety +1

    Dang. They all sound so good. Well done, dude.

  • @stevensrp2music985
    @stevensrp2music985 Před 3 lety +1

    Screamer- I kind of like 3 for the strat best
    2 on the Strat’s blues breaker
    2 on the Strat’s Klon as well
    Great video brother. I’ve always loved sampling ODs on my Line 6 stuff. They’ve really stepped up with the Helix products. The drives surprised me for sure. I still run my Golden Boy and Morning Glory in its loop though…

  • @andrewhensley8553
    @andrewhensley8553 Před 3 lety +2

    They all sounded the same to me, but it does make me want to put a nova drive on my board, in place of what’s there.

  • @mrjsings
    @mrjsings Před 3 lety +1

    I liked: 2, 1, then 3 across-the-board. 2 at least to my ears sounded less compressed and more dynamic. Look forward to the results

  • @guitargeek57
    @guitargeek57 Před 2 lety +1

    Truthfully, none of them sounded bad. I have a nova drive and find it to be useful and hits a good TS9 tone.
    I like the MIDI control as well - can use it to control volume and gain levels for some cool effects

  • @michaelmakai2610
    @michaelmakai2610 Před 3 lety +1

    TS9 - Strat-3 LP-3 • BB - Strat-3 BB-3 • Klon - Strat-3 BB-2 ••• Comments I liked #3 over all, though #2 is really close. Pedal #1 seemed to have a lower volume...? Also wondering why you used the Klon with such a clean setting, a I've heard it doesn't really activate until at 1-3 o'clock ...?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      Klon was made for low gain. When you'd see it demonstrated back in the day in the 1990's they'd tell you to set the gain around the LED and tone and volume to taste. I think it's less useable at more gain than 12:00 and not as much of a stand out pedal.

  • @Gearjunkie35
    @Gearjunkie35 Před 3 lety +1

    Had to pick 1...pedal 2. Cleaner. Every pedal had its moment. Pedal 2 averaged more moments. Fun video. Thanks brother. I'm hoping 2 is the TC.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      What about the other pedals? We'd love your vote to be counted here across the board!

    • @Gearjunkie35
      @Gearjunkie35 Před 3 lety +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc pedal 1 seemed not thinner but less full without it being a deficiency, more high mids inherent in the circuit? Dunno. Better w buckers. 3 was fuller but fuller, no 'glitter' with singles. Good but darker. Better for a bright amp perhaps.better w singles. I'd play all 3 don't get me wrong. 2 more clarity. 1 less bloom. 3 lacked top zing. My 2 cents

    • @Guitarman007
      @Guitarman007 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah pedal 1 sounded less harmonic and dynamic to me. 2 and 3 were better with 2 havingbthe edge.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      @@Gearjunkie35 Thanks for the clarification!

  • @guidodday
    @guidodday Před 3 lety +2

    The Elektron Analog Drive is another programmable drive that sounds really good.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      I've heard good things...this isn't the only list but a good list at a few different price points.

  • @kyordy
    @kyordy Před 3 lety +1

    I really liked 1 for all the examples. 3 was pleasant for the BB on the strat, but I enjoyed 1 the most overall.

  • @jasonhocker2994
    @jasonhocker2994 Před 3 lety +2

    Generally speaking, I liked 1 the best. Number 3 sounded like someone singing into a tin can, to my ears at least. Just doing overall favorite because I feel like the whole point of having one of these is to have a do it all overdrive.

  • @hookedonwood5830
    @hookedonwood5830 Před 3 lety

    TS9 - Pedal 3 Both LP and Strat), Blues Breaker, Strat Pedal 2, LP pedal 3, Klon, Strat Pedal 2, LP Pedal 2

  • @adambrightmusic
    @adambrightmusic Před 3 lety +1

    Tubescreamer: STRAT & LP- OPTION3

  • @musicmore5169
    @musicmore5169 Před 3 lety +2

    two for both guitars.#1

  • @ajrugp
    @ajrugp Před 3 lety +2

    TS - Pedal 3
    BB - Pedal 3
    Klon - Pedal 1 (close call with pedal 3)
    Great job as always! 🔥

  • @MrDavemiley
    @MrDavemiley Před 3 lety +2

    Pedal 2 sounded better on both guitars and better than the actual tube screamer. , Blues breaker = Pedals 1& 2 as good as the blues breaker . , Klon = I liked pedal 1&2 better on all sounds and bother guitars . So with me , it is a tie between pedal "1" and "2" but leaning a bit more to pedal "2' for over all sounds .

  • @adambrightmusic
    @adambrightmusic Před 3 lety +1

    Bluesbreaker: STRAT &LP - OPTION 3

  • @musicmore5169
    @musicmore5169 Před 3 lety +1

    of course i like the klon ,but to be fair i still call the second pedal for both again , ok now what pedal do i like so much , i GOT TO KNOW

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety

      Make sure you let us know which guitar and which pedal you prefer for each.

  • @boomtap7554
    @boomtap7554 Před 3 lety

    Great way to compare! Loved the video.
    TS
    Strat 123
    LP 231
    BB
    Strat 321
    LP 312
    Klon
    Strat 321
    LP 312
    Looking forward to the results (I currently use a TC Nova Drive with my G System)

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +3

      Is this an order of how you like them greatest to least?

    • @boomtap7554
      @boomtap7554 Před 3 lety +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc Yes. Greatest to least.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      @@boomtap7554 Thanks for the clarification!

  • @VictorSanPedro
    @VictorSanPedro Před 3 lety +1

    Incredibly hard to tell but:
    Tube Screamer Strat - Pedal 1
    Tube Screamer LP - Pedal 2
    Blues Breaker Strat - Pedal 2
    Blues Breaker LP - Pedal 3
    Klon Strat - Pedal 2
    Klon LP - Pedal 2

  • @paulgrimes9950
    @paulgrimes9950 Před 3 lety +1

    On the bluesbreaker LP segment was the only place i could tell a difference between them. Pedal 2 was brighter and airy while pedal 3 was darker , pedal 1 seemed to be spot on.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      What about the other pedals? We'd love your vote to be counted here!

    • @paulgrimes9950
      @paulgrimes9950 Před 3 lety +1

      On the screamer and the klon all three seemed to emulate the original perfectly on both the Strat and LP

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety

      @@paulgrimes9950 So if you could only pick one for each what would it be?

    • @paulgrimes9950
      @paulgrimes9950 Před 3 lety

      Pedal 1 would be my pick, it seemed the most consistent at replicating the original. At least on my speakers lol.

  • @cyruss2946
    @cyruss2946 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you Doctor for the video. To my ear pedal 2 was the best option.

  • @doubletriode
    @doubletriode Před 3 lety

    1.1: 3
    1.2: 3 (2)
    2.1: 1 (3)
    2.2: 3
    3. 1: 2 (3)
    3.2: 1
    the brackets indicate that I felt the pedal came very close to the one I preferred...
    generally, I found that I preferred the sound of all the pedals (original and emulations) with the strat.
    thanks for the test, you really had a good idea and put it in action in the best possible way 👍
    I am anxious to see the results 😁

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety

      What is the colon referencing?

    • @doubletriode
      @doubletriode Před 3 lety

      @@VertexEffectsInc sorry, English is not my mother tongue... 😁 in my comment I mistakenly said "brackets" when I ment colons.
      I put between colons the pedal I felt came very close to the one I liked best. when there are no colons it means I felt the best one was clearly above the two others.
      I hope that my comment is clear now 😁

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      @@doubletriode Understood!

  • @Sickindian5
    @Sickindian5 Před 3 lety

    For ts 9:
    Fender: pedal 3
    Gibson: pedal 1
    Blues Braker :
    Fender : Pedal 1 ( exact copy to my ears)
    Gibson : pedal 3( has most sonic width)
    Klon centaur:
    Fender : pedal 1
    Gibson pedal 3

  • @davidwinkert8137
    @davidwinkert8137 Před 3 lety +1

    Pedal one on all of them for me!

  • @Diauvi
    @Diauvi Před 3 lety +1

    TS9
    Strat Pedal 1
    LP Pedal 3
    Blues Breaker
    Strat Pedal 3
    LP Pedal 3
    Klon
    Strat Pedal 1
    LP Pedal 3

  • @carbonloops
    @carbonloops Před 3 lety +2

    Pedal two

  • @brian-baker
    @brian-baker Před 3 lety

    Tube Screamer
    Start - Pedal 1
    Les Paul - Pedal 2
    Blues Breaker
    Start - Pedal 3
    Les Paul - Pedal 1
    Centaur
    Strat - Pedal 2
    Les Paul - Pedal 2

  • @ramilrodriguez8340
    @ramilrodriguez8340 Před 2 lety +1

    Tube screamer Option 3 strat, option 2 lp

  • @doubletriode
    @doubletriode Před 3 lety +1

    Hey!!! Have you already announced the results? I'm still trying to figure out which one I should buy... ;-)

  • @adrianjems7443
    @adrianjems7443 Před 3 lety +1

    TS : 3 - 2
    BB : 3
    Klon : 2 -3
    Its the best for my ear 😁😁

  • @jacobpittman1996
    @jacobpittman1996 Před 3 lety +2

    Ts9
    Strat - 3
    LP - 2
    BB
    Strat - 2
    LP - 2
    Klon
    Strat - 3
    LP - 3

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety

      Thanks for your vote!

    • @jacobpittman1996
      @jacobpittman1996 Před 3 lety +1

      You’re welcome! Thank you for the awesome content! By the way, I forgot to mention my overall favorite: 2 wins overall.
      I was torn between 2 and 3. 3 sounded nice and fat on the Strat, but I play humbuckers pretty often.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      @@jacobpittman1996 Nice! Thanks for weighing in!

  • @emilywolfemusic
    @emilywolfemusic Před 3 lety +1

    TS-9: pedal 2
    BB: pedal 2
    Klon: pedal 2

  • @ramilrodriguez8340
    @ramilrodriguez8340 Před 2 lety +1

    BB option 3 strat, option 3 lp

  • @Guitarman007
    @Guitarman007 Před 3 lety +1

    Are you ever going to reveal? I'm curious which one I liked recorded best.

  • @pensatorseven1898
    @pensatorseven1898 Před 3 lety +1

    Another great Demo.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      What about your pedal picks? We'd love to count you in the final tally?

    • @pensatorseven1898
      @pensatorseven1898 Před 3 lety

      @@VertexEffectsInc Chaseblissaudio Mason. Thank you. I apologize i was not clear earlier. 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      @@pensatorseven1898 how can you choose it if you don't know which pedal it is? Be sure to watch and cast your vote

    • @pensatorseven1898
      @pensatorseven1898 Před 3 lety

      @@VertexEffectsInc TS - Pedal 3
      BB - Pedal 3
      Klon - Pedal 1

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      @@pensatorseven1898 wouldn't be ironic if none of these were the Chase Bliss ;)

  • @Zeke6004
    @Zeke6004 Před 3 lety +2

    I like the pedal 2 best.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      In all examples with all guitars?

    • @Zeke6004
      @Zeke6004 Před 3 lety +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc For Stratocaster, I might say pedal 2 is my choice for three pedals. Les Paul with pedal 1 or pedal 2 is difficult choice for me. But I could say I like pedal 2 for all three pedals with LesPaul, as well.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety

      @@Zeke6004 Great! Thank you!

  • @kostagiann100
    @kostagiann100 Před 3 lety +1

    Number 2 always sounded better with everything and I can say that it sounded even better than the real thing!!!

  •  Před 3 lety

    I own an Overture for a few months now and like it so far. As far as I know, none of the available modes were based on a Klon, neither a Bluesbreaker...so what's up?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety

      None of these have explicit "Klon" "TS" or "Blues Breaker" sounds in them, however they are programmable and have the ability to shape tones similar to these classical overdrives - so they're all on equal footing in hat regard. We'd love to hear your picks as to what you thought got closest to the classics.

  • @EMauroy67
    @EMauroy67 Před 3 lety +1

    Tube screamer: None for both
    Blues Breaker: 3 for the strat, 1 for the Les Paul
    Klon: strat: 3; Les Paul: 3

  • @RichardWatson
    @RichardWatson Před 3 lety +1

    Low key Mark IIC+ flex ;-)

  • @JuanCarlinMusic
    @JuanCarlinMusic Před 3 lety

    I seemed to like Pedal 1 mostly... Here I am secretely wishing #1 is the one I've been wondering about (you're not telling, so neither am I, hahaha!!) BUT in any case the three seem to me to be real close ...

  • @Rigjoker64
    @Rigjoker64 Před 3 lety +1

    Overall number 1 is the one I liked the most and number 2 the least

  • @xochihuarock
    @xochihuarock Před 3 lety +1

    I'm gonna take a risk. Which song is the theme you play during the Klon simulation?

  • @lifelongfan07
    @lifelongfan07 Před 3 lety +1

    I liked 1,3,2…. 1 to me seemed like the most organic….

  • @jcomm120
    @jcomm120 Před 2 lety +1

    Do you know a clean reverby pedal with sliders?

  • @adambrightmusic
    @adambrightmusic Před 3 lety +1

    KLON - OPTION1

  • @RicharPerezGuitar
    @RicharPerezGuitar Před 3 lety +1

    1 for all

  • @ramilrodriguez8340
    @ramilrodriguez8340 Před 2 lety +1

    Klon option 2 strat, option 3 lp

  • @theryanlopez
    @theryanlopez Před 3 lety

    Strat TS: Pedal 1
    LP TS: Pedal 2
    Strat BB: Pedal 1
    LP BB: Pedal 3
    Strat Klon: Pedal 3
    LP Klon: Pedal 2

  • @mikehines14
    @mikehines14 Před 3 lety

    Excellent test! I definitely enjoyed the video. However, I have a few questions for you: 1. Why would you go through all the trouble of putting together a controlled and accurate test, and then muddy the waters by adding reverb and delay?? That makes it harder to hear the pure sound of each pedal! 2. Where in the signal chain are the reverb and delay coming from? Axe FX? Pedals after the amp? Logic? 3. How are you recording from your amp? Direct out? Cab sim? Mic on a cab?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      1) The delay and the reverb were added to fit the part, there is processing on some clips, and others that have hardly any ambient effects on. Since it’s a constant across all of the clips for each example, this shouldn’t be a factor. Furthermore, in the context of how we might all use these devices is generally not going to be bone dry. 2) In post - Echo Boy and Valhalla plug ins, but set up on the representative clip as not to impact the constant variable of the guitar playing looped through the pedals. 3) Speaker cabinet in my iso box under the house. It’s a SM57 on a Celestion Classic Lead 80 on all examples.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      Looking forward to you putting in your vote so you can become part of the tally

    • @mikehines14
      @mikehines14 Před 3 lety +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc Thank you for the clarification!! Ha, I forgot about the vote! I thought #1 was definitively better than 2 and 3 in all examples across the board. It sounded the most natural and the most like the pedal it was trying to emulate. To my ears, 2 and 3 both had some very slight digital distortion when you played a bit harder.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      @@mikehines14 Thanks for putting in your vote!

  • @jacobpittman1996
    @jacobpittman1996 Před 3 lety

    On the blues breaker, pedal 2 sounded the most articulate, or clear. Pedal 3 sounded a bit more woolly, maybe even a little muffled, to me.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      What about the other pedals? We'd love your vote to be counted here!

    • @jacobpittman1996
      @jacobpittman1996 Před 3 lety +1

      Ok, I was being lazy. I will put in the work, since you guys have obviously put in a lot of time on this. I will check back in after my kids are in bed.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      @@jacobpittman1996 Looking forward to it!

  • @TJauernigElectronics
    @TJauernigElectronics Před 3 lety +1

    It doesn’t matter what they sound like as long as it inspires you play.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      With that said...what are your picks?

    • @TJauernigElectronics
      @TJauernigElectronics Před 3 lety

      @@VertexEffectsInc I’d have to say as far as dirt goes, I like the Greer Lightspeed. 2 of those stacked is even better. I also use pedals of my own ( Bombastortion, Plexian Herb, Kleer Drive) I like the Strymon Dig delay, Boss Digital Dimension Chorus. ( the version with knobs, not the preset one) I like your Boost.

  • @p.nikolaosmarkantonis8143

    TS-9 ST: 1/3
    TS-9 GB: 3
    BB ST: 3
    BB GB: 3
    K ST: 1/3
    K GB: 3
    THANK YOU

  • @hammertimegt68
    @hammertimegt68 Před 3 lety +1

    The TC.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      Which one is the TC?

    • @hammertimegt68
      @hammertimegt68 Před 3 lety +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc I'm digging #3 for the Strat and Paul doing the TS

    • @hammertimegt68
      @hammertimegt68 Před 3 lety +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc So far 3 for everything. Something about it. Sounds fullest to me.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      @@hammertimegt68 Thanks for weighing in!

  • @Guitarman007
    @Guitarman007 Před 3 lety +1

    On second listen I think the edge goes to 3 but also liked 2.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      What about based on the guitar?

    • @Guitarman007
      @Guitarman007 Před 3 lety +1

      Ill listen again on better headphones but Guitar really shouldnt matter much if you control input levels well. It comes down to how hard is hitting front of pedal.

    • @Guitarman007
      @Guitarman007 Před 3 lety +1

      Ok making notes as i listen again. On tube screamer I actually like number 2 better than the real tube screamer but 3 sounds closer to the real screamer maybe.

    • @Guitarman007
      @Guitarman007 Před 3 lety +1

      On blues breaker strat i like 3 best and 2 as runner up... same for LP

    • @Guitarman007
      @Guitarman007 Před 3 lety +1

      For Klon strat edge goes to 3 but 2 and 3 sounded really close with 3 sounding just a bit more controlled and touch sensitive

  • @musicmore5169
    @musicmore5169 Před 3 lety +1

    two again, it seems to be smooth and tre...mid.....and bass all rounded out . don't know but i like the second pedal.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      For which pedal?

    • @musicmore5169
      @musicmore5169 Před 3 lety +1

      les paul and second pedal all three , but i do like the klon cause ...just cause , thanks brother and love how informative and the devil is in the details approach to EVERYTHING GEAR RELATED. And sorry for getting back late i was jamming, later.

  • @justinkarbel7914
    @justinkarbel7914 Před 3 lety

    I commend you on pulling this vid together. Great idea. I do question the omission of the Strymon Sunset but you can't do every pedal. Having one drive pedal to do a convincing version of about every sound I want is a key part of my rig. I do wish the Strymon did a good Fuzz, but then I suppose I get to pick and choose a pedal just to do that and can swap from Fuzz to Muff as the mood strikes me.
    My favs from the demo:
    TS: Strat #1, LP #2
    BB: Strat #2, LP #2
    Klon: Strat #1, LP #1

    • @jspartacus
      @jspartacus Před 3 lety +1

      The Sunset is not pure analog.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      It's not fully analog as @jspartacus said.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      Justin, thanks for your vote!

    • @justinkarbel7914
      @justinkarbel7914 Před 3 lety

      @@jspartacus None of these pedals are "pure analog". Each has a digital brain allowing them to be programmed and switched via midi. I for one am most interested in what sound pleases my ear, more so than how it was created.

    • @justinkarbel7914
      @justinkarbel7914 Před 3 lety

      @@VertexEffectsInc Like I said, analog, digital, whatever. If it sounds good and makes it easier to get the tone I want then sign me up.

  • @kiarashbakhtiari9183
    @kiarashbakhtiari9183 Před 3 lety +1

    #1

  • @elpolloguitarrero
    @elpolloguitarrero Před 3 lety

    Number 2 is the best in all cases

  • @justabout30something
    @justabout30something Před 3 lety

    Number 2 my lord!

  • @bishoy95
    @bishoy95 Před 3 lety

    What about the digital Boss OD-200 ?
    What do you think about it ?

    • @kane6529
      @kane6529 Před 3 lety +1

      It’s digital not analog

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      Digital as Kane said. We'd still love your vote to be included! Feel free to write it in!

  • @allyourbasearebelongtous2191

    It'd be hilarious if like in a month Mason comes out with a video showing that the chips inside the TS were just some run of the mill opamp chips that no one cares about. Lol. Just to fuck with the cork sniffers.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety

      No...there all as you think...but that would be a fun test too :)

  • @diegomartins2154
    @diegomartins2154 Před 3 lety +2

    Hello! The Boss OD-200 is, in my opinion, one of the best in the market right now

    • @jspartacus
      @jspartacus Před 3 lety

      It's not pure analog.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      As jpartacus said, we're only going analog pedals with digital control :)

    • @Compass2101
      @Compass2101 Před 3 lety

      I have the Boss OD-200. It's been a great education for me and fun, but it isn't really my go to for anything. Some very usable sounds, don't get me wrong.

  • @Guitarman007
    @Guitarman007 Před 3 lety +1

    I did also wonder if the actual volume dbs were level on some of these with louder always sounding better/fuller.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      They should all be pretty balanced - I match them up on my metering before we recorded them so they were all hitting about -9 or so in Logic. With that said we'd love to hear your picks - feel free to cast your votes so you can be included in the tally.

  • @reeserichardson
    @reeserichardson Před 3 lety +1

    100% pedal 2

  • @Compass2101
    @Compass2101 Před 3 lety

    TS FS 1>2>3
    TS LP 2>1>3
    BB FS 1>2>3
    BB LP 2>1>3
    KC FS 2>1>3 all close I thought
    KC LP 1>2>3
    I went for the sound I like and clarity

  • @JorgeGarcia-ej3vy
    @JorgeGarcia-ej3vy Před 3 lety

    I know there are a lit of options in this space, but it would be cool to include the Source Audio distortions in this type of shootout. In my opinion, those are the best programmable digital distortions available. Excellent concept for a video, great job.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      This was restricted to analog overdrives, SA doesn't fit in that category.

    • @jspartacus
      @jspartacus Před 3 lety +1

      These are analog drive pedals, not digital.

  • @kevincognito3575
    @kevincognito3575 Před 3 lety

    Tube screamer strat=tie
    Tube screamer Les Paul=pedal 1
    Blues breaker strat=pedal 1
    Blues breaker Les Paul=pedal 2
    Klon. Strat=pedal 1
    Klon. Les Paul=pedal 1

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      What about across all pedals and guitars - that's just for the Tube Screamer. What about the Klon and Blues Breaker?

    • @kevincognito3575
      @kevincognito3575 Před 3 lety +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc sorry about that I didn't have time to listen to the rest it was really late I'll listen to the rest when I get home from work today and give you my opinion 👍👍👍👍👍

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      @@kevincognito3575 Great!

    • @kevincognito3575
      @kevincognito3575 Před 3 lety +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc there you go buddy I fixed it for you 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @ATotalDork
    @ATotalDork Před 3 lety +1

    Irrespective of sound, the Chase Bliss is my pick solely due to flying faders

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      Put your faith in it and cast your vote!

    • @michaelmakai2610
      @michaelmakai2610 Před 3 lety

      Yup the Automatone does so much and more!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety

      @@michaelmakai2610 But how does it actually sound versus the actual references? Put your faith in it and cast your votes

  • @louderthangod
    @louderthangod Před 3 lety

    The tube screamer just sounded so much better than the 3 I can’t pick one. There’s a compression to each of the 3 and they didn’t seem to have the high-pass as the classic TS.
    For the Blues Breaker, I guess I liked one for both guitars.
    For the Klon, 3 seemed to keep most of the dynamics which having a similar tone.

  • @mrscott99
    @mrscott99 Před 3 lety

    #3

  • @Groux2112
    @Groux2112 Před 3 lety +1

    I would say :
    TS-9
    Srat: pedal 2
    LP: pedal 3
    Blues Breaker
    Srat: pedal 3
    LP: pedal 3
    Klon
    Srat: pedal 1
    LP: ???

  • @basvredeling
    @basvredeling Před 3 lety +1

    Pedal 3 got closest to the originals each time.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      Across all guitars?

    • @basvredeling
      @basvredeling Před 3 lety +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc Yes, I really thought it captured the character of the original pedals best across the board. Pedal 2 was least convincing. Not unpleasant, though. Pedal 1 was a pretty close most of the time. Just not as close as 1.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      @@basvredeling Thanks for voting!

    • @basvredeling
      @basvredeling Před 3 lety

      @@VertexEffectsInc When or where can we see the results?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      @@basvredeling next week or two

  • @bloemundude
    @bloemundude Před 2 lety

    If you want test overdrive with the Klon, it generally helps to play actual notes and not just trust your exhaled breath to pick the strings. Klon data will be useless because you did not play hard enough for the effect to kick-in.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 2 lety +1

      Klon "Sweet Spot" is not a heavily overdriven sound - when it was first being demonstrated a guitar shows back in the 1990's - Klon Siberia demonstrators would show the gain around the LED light and volume and tone to taste to give you an idea of it's intended use as more of a gainy boost or low gain drive.

  • @wheresallthezombies
    @wheresallthezombies Před 3 lety

    I wish you and xotic would make one of these. That would make my life easier lol

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      Seems like there going all in on guitars these days

    • @wheresallthezombies
      @wheresallthezombies Před 3 lety

      @@VertexEffectsInc I didn’t even know xotic made guitars. As long as they don’t stop making the bb preamp and ep booster I’ll be fine. Lol.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      @@wheresallthezombies What's your pick from this video?

    • @wheresallthezombies
      @wheresallthezombies Před 3 lety +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc pedal 3 was my favorite through out. Definitely neck and neck between 2 and 3 but 3 sounds more natural to me maybe.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety

      @@wheresallthezombies Thanks for weighing in!

  • @asmartelle
    @asmartelle Před 3 lety +1

    Pedal 3 across the board.

  • @jspartacus
    @jspartacus Před 3 lety +1

    I'll only say this: whichever one the Chase Bliss is, it doesn't sound $600 better than the 10 year old Nova Drive, whichever it is. Jeez, what a ripoff.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      Which are you picks if you had to choose for each guitar?

    • @jspartacus
      @jspartacus Před 3 lety

      @@VertexEffectsInc Frankly, they're all so similar that you couldn't tell the difference after playing 10 minutes into a gig, with drums, keys, bass, a singer, and a crowd trying to out shout your gear so they can talk to each other. So, there isn't one of them that stands out as being $600 better than either of the others.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety

      @@jspartacus it’ll be interesting to see how the answers pan out…

    • @jspartacus
      @jspartacus Před 3 lety +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc You played it well, making people wait a week to confirm their picks. There's no clear consensus so far, it's all over the map. The frustration that people are feeling is palpable, because they are looking for confirmation of their own purchases. You ought to do this same demo with Klon clones, that'll really stir people up! Bravo.

  • @Guitarman007
    @Guitarman007 Před 3 lety

    The problem with these units is they only have one individual tone at a time when often stacked tones are better. So Id need to buy and have space on the pedalboard for like 3 rjm units and one chase bliss. Id want a programmable cali76 stacked as well.

    • @JoaoMarcelo_1
      @JoaoMarcelo_1 Před 3 lety +2

      The Nova Drive allows you to stack drive into distortion, the other way arround or even side by side (parallel mode).

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      Except for the Nova.

    • @Guitarman007
      @Guitarman007 Před 3 lety

      Yeah the problem is I often find the magic in stacking up to 3 pedals and on occasion up to four. Also, which of these was the one I liked the most? For me it was down to number 3 or 2 depending on situation.

    • @Guitarman007
      @Guitarman007 Před 3 lety

      Also the RJM Overture needs a mids dial, especially for tube screamer tones similar to wampler clarksdale and a price point closer to $300 to make itviable to buy multiple units... or they could make a stacked unit allowing up to 3 stacked tones and sell for like $999.

    • @jspartacus
      @jspartacus Před 3 lety +1

      The Nova Drive not only supports stackng, but you also can choose which to run first (distortion or overdrive). And you can also run them in parallel, so it goes beyond stacking.

  • @jefffranklin2294
    @jefffranklin2294 Před 3 lety

    I wish you had Strymon Sunset in the shootout also

  • @nostro1001
    @nostro1001 Před 3 lety

    Well...I can't overly get my head around this, as in it doesn't really make complete sense.
    3 programmable pedals yes
    3 overdrives yes
    You want us to compare your settings against each od with a strat and LP yes.
    But, we really aren't comparing much other than your settings & the programmable pedals themselves haven't been modeled per se on any of the 3 specifically. Notwithstanding, your settings did provide some close similarities. However, there's nothing to say that if each of the programmables were tweaked differently, then they'd perhaps sound closer to the ones you were trying to emulate or more pleasing to those that voted.
    So, I'm kinda lost as to the purpose here?
    Other than I'm lost here 😂..I did enjoy the video, especially your Tom Petty. Kinda got me thinking...that's such an iconic & tasteful riff, why have I never even thought of playing it. 💭
    Thanks for the heads up here. 😎

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      We're not comparing "settings" we're comparing can we match the sound of the "Gold Standard" overdrives with the programmable "analog multi-effect" overdrives using a Strat and Les Paul. Each programmable pedal is set as close as I can audibly get them to the gold standard exemplar. There are setting ranges for each of the gold standard pedals that the manufacturers recommend along with how they've been used historically - the pedals are all set to their "sweet spot" for each instrument based on my interpretation. It doesn't make much sense in my mind to go for any extreme settings that wouldn't be the norm of how these pedals might be used. I think the viewer can infer the proximity of how other settings might sound in relationship to the reference vs. programmable pedal given the baseline we provide.

    • @nostro1001
      @nostro1001 Před 3 lety

      @@VertexEffectsInc Hey Mason - thanks for your reply here. :)
      Yes, you're comparing settings - the settings you've adjusted on the 'programables' to the range chosen on your so-called representative 'iconic' od's.
      In terms of the title of the video, it seems all three units are 'comparable' to the exemplars. I would therefore assume in a live setting much of a muchness & in a recording perhaps a bit different, but then again every player & every recording sounds different anyway, so that's really neither here nor there.
      Of course, the inherent weakness of CZcams sound quality does not allow anybody, regardless of the end equipment used, to pick up on various details that have been lost. So we cannot know what it sounds like in your space.
      Unfortunately, this is the case for any demo & as viewers, we try to make do & infer sounds that we do not hear. We can't overcome this fact.
      By contrast 95+% of audiophile channels (maybe more at a guess), do not include any sound bites at all as it is well understood that CZcams cannot go close to replicating the sound.
      However, in the guitar world, the platform is used differently, because it's the best means available that reaches a wide audience, it's good advertising and for companies and some CZcamsr's it's profitable. I don't have a problem with any of this & do enjoy watching many of these videos (such as this 😀).
      When it comes to hearing 'best', I think the framework of the question needs greater thought for it to have much meaning, to both the participants and the content creator.
      I appreciate the time and effort you put in here. I found it quite enjoyable, yet still, I can't get my head around it as per my original comments. Perhaps, as I don't know the intended purpose here of you gathering some sort of results. Regardless, I look forward to your findings & I may add further details to the next video once known.
      Cheers mate. 😎

  • @ericovermyer7358
    @ericovermyer7358 Před 3 lety

    @vertexeffects Mason, how dare you.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      How dare what? I'll look forward to your answers on your picks in the comments.

    • @ericovermyer7358
      @ericovermyer7358 Před 3 lety

      @@VertexEffectsInc if 2 is what I think it is, they can have my $750.00.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety

      @@ericovermyer7358 so who’s got your vote? 2?

    • @ericovermyer7358
      @ericovermyer7358 Před 3 lety

      @@VertexEffectsInc 2 across the board. Sounds present. Like there isn't any artificial compression or reverb built into the signal.

  • @JettyDeke
    @JettyDeke Před 3 lety +1

    3 sounded the worst to me…. 1 and 2 sounded the most like the original.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      With all guitars?

    • @JettyDeke
      @JettyDeke Před 3 lety +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc yeah, there was something that sounded “dead” to my ears. Or dull. Idk why. I literally couldn’t tell a difference between the originals and 1&2

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      @@JettyDeke What if you have to pick one?

    • @JettyDeke
      @JettyDeke Před 3 lety +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc I went back and listened, The first two sounded so different by the time I got to 3 it just sounded completely different but going back and forth between the original then to the pedals, 3 does sound the closest to the original. So I will amend my comment and say 3. Although I liked 1.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +1

      @@JettyDeke Great! Thank you for chiming in!

  • @oliverburnand1228
    @oliverburnand1228 Před 3 lety

    ok soo this is what i think.... with the analogue gear there is a element of depthless, rich ness and feel that the simulations just can not capture in my experience.... yes the digital has new and unusual sounds that can only be done digitally and that the beauty of it, but it so has failed to comply replicate the analogue sound..............

    • @therigshowsweden
      @therigshowsweden Před 3 lety +3

      All of them are analog circuits with digital interface

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      These are all analog as The Rig Show stated!

    • @jspartacus
      @jspartacus Před 3 lety +1

      If you couldn't tell that these are all analog drives, you have failed.

    • @VodkaSelekta
      @VodkaSelekta Před 3 lety

      @@jspartacus Not everyone is at the same level of understanding as others. No one has failed.

  • @VodkaSelekta
    @VodkaSelekta Před 3 lety

    I feel like you definitely should have given us the answer or warned us at the very beginning that it will take a week to get the answer.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Před 3 lety +2

      I appreciate that feedback, but I still think that this is the best way to move forward by anonymizing all of the devices and then naming them later so we’re collecting as unbiased data as possible.

  • @kellymarie3197
    @kellymarie3197 Před 3 lety +1

    Great content. But please drop the Rig Doctor name. Sounds pretentious.