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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 28. 08. 2024
- Ahoy, fellow adventurers! Join us on our quest to find the ultimate sailing paradise as we set out to buy our very own Leopard 45 Catamaran. In this week's episode, we take you along to the Cape Town 2017 boat show, where we explore the top contenders - the Maverick 440 and the Leopard 45 from Robertson and Caine. Get an exclusive look at these South African-built catamarans as we compare their features, designs, and sailing capabilities. Come aboard and experience the thrill of living like true sailors as we embark on this exciting journey to find our dream vessel! Don't forget to like, subscribe, and ring the bell to stay updated on our adventures! Fair winds and following seas! đâ”ïž
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We are preparing to purchase a cruising catamaran to sail around the world. We want to visit off the beaten tack places and need to prepare for ice bergs, storms, heavy seas, as well as nice tranquil tropical waters...
Follow us on our journey as we learn from legends when Sailing La Vagabonde upgraded from a monohull to a catamaran...SV Delos wants to upgrade to the latest Amel 51 monohull....Gone with the Wynns chose a Leopard Catamaran....choices choices choices. We looked at other sailing channels such as Wicked Salty, Satori, Jessica and Ryan, Catamaran Impi, MJ Sailing, Happy Together, Sailing Uma, Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose, Zingaro, Miss Lone Star, Sailing Doodles, Drenched, Lucky Fish gets Away, RAN Sailing, Out Chasing Star, Follow the Boat, Rigging Doctor, Sailing Lady Africa, Abandon Comfort, and many others to find our answers and solutions, whilst we prepared our yacht in Cape Town, South Africa.
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Another Elite goes sailing channel ...
Jip, gone full circle! From a Barefoot school boy to earning a paying my own degrees (2x BSc, 1x MSc, 2x PhD), worked 36 years as SW dev for 18 hours a day... Time to quit this rat race and become a Barefoot sailor boy :-)
45 foot cat is for elite? lol they're the price of a average home in Ca
Haters gonna hate....
I guess there's nothing like sweeping judgements my friend.
Completely agree! Rock On!
Good choice. Great boat. It's three years later and from your videos you've been living the dream. Can't wait to get out there myself.
You can do it! It is for sure life changing!
Had to sub after reading the embarrassing comments about you being able to buy a brand new boat. No one should be ashamed of having success after working very hard for it. Cheers!!
John Schmidt thank you John for the kind words!!
Sailing Sisu I got add if it wasn't for folks like yourselves being able to afford and get these new boats there wouldn't be hardly any new innovation that we see going on also keeping people employed and with paychecks to hopefully one day follow you. Those people shaming you are fools and are extremely short sighted. Myself I'm personally excited to see more vids and see how well all these new innovations in design and equipment and sub-system's perform and hold up over time. đ
đ€Ł we would also like to see how it holds up. Weâre not new to technology, but tech combined with marine is very new to us!
Without people buying NEW boats, there would be no USED boats down the road for the less fortunate to buy. Thank you SISU!
Just started going back through your old videos!! You book look so much happier and healthier now in 2021 than you do in when this video was made!! Amazing for you both. Test drive in beautiful Cape Town!!! Amazing place and people.
Thank you so much for your kind words, yes we are absolutely loving and living the life, highly recommend for anyone who has lived and extremely stressful corporate life â”â
As a fellow 2m sailor Iâm thrilled to see a boat maybe designed for blokes like us.
Subbed and following.
Cheers
Wow, thank you Bruce! Our first episodes are not our pride quality videos đ but thank you for enduring the early ones and hopefully you will enjoy our later ones even more!
Very smart move guys, âsell and sailâ. I hope the videos of your journey keep coming.
Thank you! Yes, it feel strange to go "home" (back to South Africa) and need to rent a car and stay at friends or family or hotel :-)
I love the Leopard. But for some reason, no matter where I look, I keep thinking back to the Seawind... That open plan makes it feel so large, and so unique!
Seawind is an awesome cat!
We just finished sailing over 250 miles in 2-4 meter seas and 15-25 knots winds in a Leopard 45. LOVE IT!!!! Solid boat that will hold 6.5 knots at reef 2 with small sails.
oh wow! can't wait to experience it ourselves! we are jealous, Rich! We will get ours in 6 months :-) Thanx for watching!
My husband is 6â3â so this was VERY helpful! Thank you!
Headroom is a show stopper for me too!
@@SailingSisu Itâs hard to judge some peopleâs heights on these videos. For me at 5â1â, itâs easy. For my husband? Not so much. đ
Nice catamaran enjoy your sailing!!
Thank you, Marcos! We sure do! 13,000nm and still loving it!
Just subscribed , I am also binge watching La Vagobonde and its lovely . I am super glad to have found your channel and will tag along . I am living in Sedgefield so am a fellow south African , looking forward to sharing your journeys ... Bon Voyage ....
Thank you Chris from Sedgefield, a beautiful part of our country!
Great video and I really appreciate the evaluation from an over 6 footer perspective. Subscribed!
Frik is 1.96m....I think it is 6'5"?
Balsa sandwich below waterline is a showstopper for me.
Absolutely right you are, works for us. Super strong
Hey there Sisu and happy new year. When i saw the name Sisu i thought "cool here are some Finnish guys",. We are practically neighbors, he he. To my surprise you where from South Africa. You know that Sisu means wolf in Finnish and often are used to describe Grit, Courage and strength in Finland. Anyway best of luck to you on you travels, maybe we cross paths somewhere in the future..
Sailing Embla ah, thanx! Yes, we new about grid courage and endurance and it is in our channel description, but did not know owners about wolf :-) now we have a sea wolf too!
I would kindly inform thee that Sisu doesnt mean wolf in Finnish, caus wolf is Susi. Also Leopard is feline, not canine in any way, get a grip. hahah
I will stick then to what my Finish boss told me :-D
Easy mistake...
Susi is Finnish word for wolf
Sisu is something else.
LOL I made the same mistake, I saw Sisu and immediately thought Finland, oh well, now I got to go and google what Sisu actually means, btw Moi everybody from a Swedish Canadian.
Great video btw, subscribed and am looking forward to seeing more in the future to come, congrats on the Leopard, it is a great Cat.
Only thing I didn't like in that video was that the Leopard you were looking at had sharp corners, it can be a safety hazard and extremely painful if you bump into it.
Most people just don't know what it's like being 6'+ tall. Most of the "Built" world was not designed for us. Finding a Catamaran with room for real men on it is awesome.
Very true
How tall are you? Iâm 6â5â wondering if any Cat can accommodate my height. What would you recommend?
@@lewisevans6716 This Lep 45 would be close but it can do it. The bigger Luxury Cat's like Sunreef and FP have the headroom for 6'5" people.
@@lewisevans6716 I am 1.96m
Sailing Sisu great weâre the same height. Helps me gauge the headroom as I see you walking through the boat. Much thanks.
Very smart looking đđđ
Thank you! Cheers!
Subscribed. Excellent Video. Clear Audio. Good picture detail. Great commentary. Well done you Seth Efricarns ;-)
Baie dankie :-)
Thank you :-)
A lifeâs journey has started. Fair wind
thank you, Nico! and what a journey it is so far! thanks for being our 9,000th subscriber!
Very nice video, Leopard 45 seems like the obvious option. Can't wait for the technical videos
Working on it!
Fantastic boat - looking forward to seeing more. Thanks
ah! thank you! yes, the next few episodes is more interesting for potential sailors than actual sailors :-) but it is a documentary of our road to freedom :-) only a few more months of options and decisions...then we go sailing!
Sasquatch thank you so much for the sub! Greatly appreciated. Yes, please stay tuned for more đ
Proudly South African. Subscribed. All the best bafwethu.
Thank you!
thats one fine boat you got there!
Thank You Matias
Life is not a rehearsal = ENJOY .
Thank you, we are đ
Just found your site. Congratulations on the Leopard 45. Awesome boats!
Thank you for the kind words!
Good choice!
Thank you! We absolutely love her!
Omg.. Great video, but that backing music drives me crazy!
Lol, seems like a theme for the video comments :-) we were still learning and hopefully fixed it in episode 9
Love the Leopard good choice
Thank you! It was love at first sight!
Frik, why did you not opt for the anchor to be forward of the bow spread that way you would have less hassle. The holes on the trampoline attachment points you could have some sort of teflon inserts made up ???? not sure if it will work.
Thank you, Gavin! Not sure what you mean by anchor in front of the bow sprit? Never saw something like that? Yes, I asked the boat yard to make me Teflon grommets.
We have been sailing with a Maverick and many Leopards.
Both boats will get the job done but the Leopard will have better resale, good choice
We've sailed 5,300nm in four months now... We absolutely love the Leopard!
We are 20,000 nm into a circumnavigation, currently in New Zealand.
Our CZcams channel is â Off the Starboard Hull â
We actually do follow you too :-) happy sailing! See you soon!
Good choice on live a board cruising cat. You will be very secure and comfortable.
Sisu is finally in the water pool! So, it is getting close!
Leopard catamarans are beautiful boats!!!
They indeed are! We agree :-)
Yay, Leopard!! Those big girls are really nice. Congratulations on the decision. We already wish we had more storage.
Hooks and Hairspray we fell in love with the first sight! And love the storage!
Very nice cat and to think it's made here locally in Cape Town.
thank you! yes, it is made by Robinson & Cain ;-)
Awesome video!!! Very informative đ
Thank you!
I love my Leopard 40. So I think a good choice đ
Me an my brother delivered one (it might have been a 39ft) from Cape Town to Ft. Lauderdale in 2006...awesome boats!
As a tall guy I appreciate the Leopards head room but, I have never figured out why they are so narrow compared to other cats the same length. Another 4' of beam makes a MASSIVE difference in living area. For this reason, I have eliminated them as possible candidates.
Ah, yes, the port side is a bit narrow, but the starboard owners version is pretty wide. Two people can easily pass each other
Good luck with your choice of boat! But don't live like Wicked Salty! He sunk his boat due to neglect and incompetence.
Lol, I will try to avoid that part! Well spotted!
Great info. Thanks
Thank you!
They buy a $800K boat, and want YOU to give them money! Hahahaha!!
that's so...uhm...Damaged? hahahahaha, but no, we do not ask you to buy is a boat, only a beer for the awesome videos that we put together ;-)
Love the Leopard, built tough, just like South Africaans.
thank you, Locharald!
That was a great video thank you
Thank you for watching!
Just found you, Subscribed and watching. Well put together vid. Doing the same as you, planning stage and taking notes and watching everyone. Cheers from NZ.
Ah great! And thank you! Yes, these videos are the boring part for people who are not interested, but as you rightly said...we have to start by buying a boat and you have to start buying a boat by asking a lot of questions and do a lot of research. The only boat I had was a 4.1 Rubber Duck and a Jetski :-D that knowledge does not help one to get an ocean capable boat, which will also be your house! We had to start as newbies from scratch....
Very nice video, Iâm in between the 50 and the 45. Afraid the 50 is a little too much to handle just the Mrs. and me
Must say, if that L50 came two months earlier, then that would have been my choice :-) flippen decent cat! And all lines still comes to the helm. Just mention SISU when you talk to Daniel Snyman in Cape Town office...
Nice... I will be following
Thank you Cyclomaniac!!! We will do our damnest to keep you entertained !!!
Thanks great video
Thank you!
Itâs gorgeous!
Thank you! We think so too!
Capt Frik, Re: New Maverick 440 Hybrid. Iâm not quite as tall as you so cabin height wonât be as big a deal for me. I think it was for you. I know storage wonât be as much as L45 and, no forward cockpit. But an E-boat would be koowl, donât you think?
Yes, I do think that. But keep in mind that I was thinking of replacing the smelly diesel tanks and noisy diesel engines. With hybrid, one only replace the engines with motors, but keep the diesel tanks as well as a much bigger genset. The genset has to be at least 13kW...very heavy and noisy and smelly and for sure not green đ
Sailing Sisu saw that; tech not quite ready for prime time. Yes still two ( albeit smaller) diesels and no stand-alone generator. I would need to find out more about the drives, are they series, parallel/mechanically linked, etc. Ideally you can run one as a decoupled genset and not run the drive motor if needed. In any case I will watch the progression over the next several years. Thank you again for your tech knowledge and responding so graciously to my queries.
I'll be shopping for a boat in about 2 years also. I do like the Lagoon 450 and also the Lagoon 42.
Lorne Serpa the Lagoons were really very good! Also lots of storage spaces also quality materials. You will love it. At the end between those two? We just love the look of the Leopard 45, and we are South Africans :-)
Leopard would be my choice! A Dodger at the helm and Color panels!
She took us through some rough seas and is still an awesome boat! Thank you for watching! Have you watched our non technical videos? Did you like them too?
Hope to be where you are at in this video in 2-3 years. Very nice boat! Like the Leopards too! did you look at any Royal Cape Majestics?
Hi, Chris! We just cannot wait anymore! The RCM has excellent finishing touches and is very similar to the Knysna. However, personally, I would not go for the high fly bridge. The Leopard 50 has an option for having it, and for that reason I would rather go for the L50 performance cat without the fly deck. The RCM has very roomy and light cabins, which I like. But have a look at the L50 and mention that you were referred to by us, they will treat you well :-)
Chris, just to clarify, if you want to cruise around the proverbial cabbage patch and entertain, then for sure the fly Bridge makes sense, but if you want to sail, you need all the sail area you can get. The higher the sails the higher the wind speed, but the faster you'll reef (reducing sail area) or you risk loosing the sails
New to the channel.Been watching a lot of channels on sailing. I am wondering if the boat is new and if that is why you didn't survey it. Normally on the other channels they have it surveyed
Yes, it is a new boat. It may at value to survey a new boat in order to find factory defects faster, but we did not do it.
Great stuff!
thank you and thanx for watching!
Hello new Sailors when you have time see if you can contact SV Impi a catamaran thru U Tube they can help you heaps recommend Brent and Ana for information re sailing they are currently in Australian waters going towards Tasmania have followed these good people for the last 2years
Thank you, Fergus! Yes, I follow Impi and Brent is an awesome guy. We are in conversation (I have no idea where he gets time to help so many people!) and he gave me very good advise on impellers and sails. Awesome dude!
Hi, my name is Christian and I just found your videos today. Thank you so much for what you are doing. I am really enjoying your attention to boat comparisons. I that you have not mentioned anything about the finishes on the boat and the type of material they are using. Have any of the boats had real wood finishes, and what is the Leopard using in the galley and staterooms?
Christian Wolf Hi Christian, Petro here, thank you for the sub!! Greatly appreciated. So good to hear we can add value. Iâm the âinterior creatorâđ, and Frik âs the tech guru. The Leopard 45 comes with laminated finishes with solid wood trims, and wear resistant simulated wood flooring. They also have an option for composite teak decking, which we did not go for - the idea of gutting a fish on that did not seem like something we would feel comfortable doing đ. The Knysna 500 SE had exquisite wooden finishes throughout (like a very upmarket hotel đ), and even had an option for plush carpeting in the hulls. I will be addressing items such as mattresses, cushions and interior add onâs in future episodes, but please feel free to ask questions along the way, happy to share.
Also check out the Lagoon 450S
We did, but still loved the Leopard 45!
Frik,Petra how come you didn't check out Kynsa?
Christopher, we did in episode #4t đ
101st subscriber. That leopard is a very nice looking boat. Will you be disclosing costs of the boat and the options?
Thanx! You are absolute awesome! Yes, from ep 6, we start with two basic options and then move on to the more detailed options. And at some point we will show the list itself with the prices of bareboat, selected factory options, and then aftermarket options.
Sailing Sisu I'm excited to see what 2018 brings for you. I like the approach and details in the videos you've produced so far. Keep it up! I'm sure they'll only get better.
Happy New Year!
happy 2018 for you too!
'beautiful boat, 'nice walk through and commentary - editing dept. gets an A
Then you would love #32 even more!
Leopard - the houseboat of catamarans. Like sailing a pig.
Catch me if you can đ
This front outside cockpit area is a bit dangerous. Imagine it full of water by some wave.
Actually 100% safe. It drains water 4 times faster than required by law :-)
Sailing Sisu the law of men is never a consideration by the laws of nature and physics! I have actually seen reviews by experienced sailors who were saying that they don't like this design at all. Imagine that you sail in high seas and one wave gets suceeded by another filling completely or partially this area with tons of water before the "4 times faster that the law" drainage compensate to drain.
That means that the cat will have to be sailing for a lot of its sailing time with extra weight at the front. This is not a good scenario not only for performance but for safety as well. A cat's major harard is of tipping over while surfing down a wave (45s are quite big therefore a lot safer than the 36s or 38s - but still you should never compromise on safety). Extra weight at the front is the least you want in such instances.
P.S. The front door opening poses a threat as well. There's good reason that almost no cat I ve ever seen has a front facing door for the saloon. It's certainly nice when moored but underway it's a possible fail point. Apart from that I'd like to thank you for the effort in making those videos. I'm actually taller than you (6'10") and I find useful to see other tall people try out cats for their liveability.
Hi guys.
In the research stage of a 45foot cat and you have been extreamly helpful. I donât want to know how much you paid, thatâs private, but can I ask you what the payment stages were percentage wise. IE was there an initial (we are interested) deposit, an upfront payment on settling on the config, a payment through the build? A final payment, etc, etc ? Would be very helpful to know.
Thanks
Mick
Mick, I noticed you watched #28 :-) all your questions are answered and I guess my answer to this question I covered in my replay to this question in #28. Thank you for watching!
SUBSCRIBED see you next week
Thank you!
Nice...
thank you and thanx for watching!
How many slips do yoy have to rent ??? When you dock in a marina an how much do they charge per square foot???????
We normally anchor, but it varies from marina to Marina. Normally double the price (2 slips) or they calculate sqm.
How tall are you? If you don't mind me asking. And walk is the head room on your boat?
I am 1.96m and I can as in the video, walk up right every where
Frik did you look at FP and lagoon similar size? If so what did you think of them? Also have you heard much about after sales service with all 3, leopard, FnP, lagoon brands?
Simon, thank you for the question! yes, we did look at them, and they are awesome cats, very good use of storage and well finished. i was a bit biased since i did and atlantic crossing in 2006 with a leopard 39 and it was fast and took us past a tropical storm or two. the fp and lagoon looks to me very much the same? the l45 just have that different look...but for after sales, the big charter companies all have a good share of all three these boats and they all claim world wide service...which we in practices did not yet experience. i joined the leopard owners group and it sounds as if the owners are super impressed with the service of leopard.
Thanks for reply. Iâm not a great fan of production boats but from what I hear leopard stand up the best out of the big three. Like your videos, good common sense info. Thereâs a yacht designer here in Nz called devilliers. Originally from SA. Good bloke and got a nice 52 â cat design in alloy. Hoping to build his design in Nz or even consider cape town. A lot cheaper. Jacob Bros there do alloy yachts, good builders from what I hear. Keep up the good work both of you, nice yacht, let the fun begin.
They have finally got leopard cats looking good. I was impressed with knysna, seems well built havenât seen one up close, but so dated looks. Shame.
@@simonhantler8062 I think the Exquisite X5 is far better than than any of these boats by a mile.
theres quite a few cats better but the X5 is so bloody ugly. gotta be able to row up to your boat with a smile on your face.
Leapord is miles ahead of the other, must better layout and design. And a jacuzzi!
Lol, the problem is that jucuzzi drains way too fast!
As ek mag vra. Behalwe SA paspoorte watse dokumente moet julle Nog he om aan Wal te gaan oor die hele wereld?
Hi Deon, jou boot dokumentasie, crew lys, versekering (indien jy op n mooring bal of in n marina gaan), en dan natuurlik Covid dokumentasie wat die land waarheen jy gaan, benodig, asook "exit" dokumentasie van vorige land en "entry" waarheen jy oppad is.
Hi Deon, jou boot dokumentasie, crew lys, versekering (indien jy op n mooring bal of in n marina gaan), en dan natuurlik Covid dokumentasie wat die land waarheen jy gaan, benodig, asook "exit" dokumentasie van vorige land en "entry" waarheen jy oppad is.
So why leopard over maverick? Just been watching other vids of competing production boats and some of the 'under the hood' construction details are atrocious... and 7 figure prices to boot. Makes me sick
I think this is a very personal matter. Mavericks are great boats, myself did not like the look. Similar like why Toyota 4x4 and not Mitsubishi 4x4? I just love the Leopard. And in retrospect....we already sailed 4m swells and 40knots of wind....crazy stuff, but the Leopard was like a tank! very steady and never felt insecure. Yes, RC needs to sort out a lot of QC issues, but the design and structure are solid.
You guys need to oil that camera! Its squeaking like a wooden buggy!
Sure
Why the double shackle on the anchor/chain rode?
Not sure what you referring too? Is it the swiwel?
@@SailingSisu The shackle is the chain link with a threaded bolt so you can connect the anchor to the chain. Why 2 of them on the rode?
I do not see a double shackleđ€ between the chain and anchor. That said, this was a show boat and not Sisu but, we also have a swivel, a Mantus swivel
@@SailingSisu Oh ok a different boat. That explains it.
Yo Iâm so jealous.
Thank you for watching! Have you watched our non technical videos? Did you like them too?
Sisu comes from where?
From my Finnish boss đ she introduced me to the Finnish concept.
As A Finn myself I thougt there just had to be something like that behind it! Great name!đ
@@kajbergman6709, she used in in a speech to describe my team's efforts in the biggest UNDP project for 2017 and explained what it means... And it just clicked well with our character and spirit đ she said that it is a fitting name for our boat đ
3:56 Hat on the bed...bad luck !
Luckily that was on the Lagoon...a bit of good luck right there!
good choice It's my favorite cat I wish you the best of luck on your journey but please do us a favor I see your logo is very similar to La Vagabonde's. Now those are some very big shoe's to fill and for me personally, it immediately turned me off.
That said I 'm looking forward to your video's especially on the options and aftermarket extra's and I will subscribe but please be original and yourself.
No worries mate! Riley personally said on a YT comment from me, that we are koowl. Just to confirm, we are not even trying to fill there shoes and have no intention nor interest to vlog the way they do. As for the logo, nothing is even remotely the same as SLV. The windex is the most viewed instrument on a boat and it is a catamaran instead of a monohull, which a windex normally shows.
I like your content, but your logo looks like a copy of SLV
Sure. But perhaps have a look at the video about our logo? It is not even remotely the same.
I must be missing something all i hear us music with no talking ???
Not sure
owe bump that head
Almost! Thank you, Sir Robert for watching!
why such a markup for a boat manufactured in third world country with cheap labor and cheap materials just wondering
I guess that is what you pay for 2017 boat of the year :-) top quality is expensive any part of the world ;-) you know? Supply and demand? Leopard is part of the top 3 catamaran sales in the world.
im just thinking of how much these companies are making per sale
Jip... Hence why we moved so much options to aftermarket :-)
Please put in mind that these "third world" boat builders are not chinese manufacturers with cheap materials doing economic dumping by selling crap in wallmart.
John Dough same as nike
Terrible camera work lol
đ Sure, that was still early days! Have a look at our later videos, would love to hear from you!
Worst sailing channel ever
Any positive advice to make it acceptable to you?
Just a troll. To be discarded..
So that still makes it better than you.