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GORUCK 20L Rucker 4.0 // A 500D Rucker? LESS zippers, MORE Velcro!
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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2024
- Hey guys! Finally received my Rucker 4.0 in Multicam Tropic…or is Tropic Multicam? This is the 20L size and has a ton of differences from the 3.0…some good and some…well, just OK. Before you sell your 3.0 take a look at this video. Thanks for watching! -JB
Shortcuts: 00:00 Let's GO!
00:59 Overview
02:20 Outside
05:32 Inside
9:50 With a Ruck Plate
10:32 Compared to 3.0
13:32 Final Thoughts
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Thanks for the informative video! From Crye Precision (creators of the Multicam pattern family) it's Multicam Tropic
Nice! Good to know. I’m sure this is never debated 😂
Dang. I just finished reading Comfort Crisis and wanted to a grab a bag. Was convinced on a 3.0 but can't get it now. Don't like the 4.0. Lack of pouches and zippers is the deal breaker for me. Lack of 2nd plate less so, but disappointing. Will just continue to use my RunMAX I guess. Hopefully the 5.0 brings back these features so I can buy one!
The "Long Range" editions are just like the 3.0. Might consider one of those.
I bought a 4.0 25L and overall, it's a solid pack. However, the velcro enclosures on the inner pockets are annoying to open and close...especially flap which gets in the way when closing. Zippers would have been so much better, along with keeping the outer zip pocket from the 3.0. Still, very satisfied with the pack.
I agree. Not a fan of the changes either.
@@JBOutside1 I wonder if Scars would replace the velcro with Zippers.
@@damonluvisi Anything for a price I'm sure.
I watched the 3.0 video and then this 4.0 video back to back. I can tell from your lack of energy and enthusiasm in the 4.0 that you weren't going to be crazy about this version. I just got the 3.0 25L, waiting for it to arrive.
Yeah, I'm hoping we get zippers back in the 5.0 but I wouldn't hold my breath. The 3.0 is still the most complete bag in my opinion. Aside from 500D and a really cool color the 4.0 is meh.
Just got my 20Liter today in MCB, and not too shabby. You know I come back to these videos, and I find something new each time. Example: the comparisons to the 3.0 and the 4.0 with regards to the Velcro pockets inside the bag. Kinda funky, but I’m sure there was a reason for that…that’s up to me to find out. As always, great videos man! BTW, My 39 Liter Rucker is dope! I can say, your pretty influential…the very reason why I bought the bag.
Thanks man! Glad they helped. They removed the zippers because I guess Scars was replacing a lot from people dropping the ruck and the plate was smashing them. I’ve never had a problem and I hope they bring them back. MCB is a great color!
@@JBOutside1 yea, I’m really diggin the MCB 🤩👌
After this version 4.0 comes out. Version 3.0 has increased in price and is hard to find. JB's video must watch, thank you
You bet! 👊🏻
They’re closing the gap so much with the long range ruckers vs the gr2. With a lot of people not needing a bombproof laptop compartment, I can’t justify in my mind why they keep both on product line and charge much more for one. I’ll probably pick up a 20L for pt 20/30LB exercise and less than 26.2 mile rucks. I will miss the extra pocket inside the bag (bladder keeper) more than the front pocket. I recommend a hillpeople gear kit bag for quick access items on front of your body.
Agree totally on the GR2 comparison. Lots are similar for sure. I did an event last weekend and REALLY missed that outer pocket.
Can you do a video on training for a Basic and what to expect? Thanks.
Great suggestion! I'll work on one soon. My plan was to do a "what to pack" for an event. That'll have a little about what to expect. Stay tuned!
The 3.0 is better. The external zippered pocket is super useful. Zippers beat Velcro. GoRuck is cheaping out by replacing the zippers with Velcro.
I totally agree. Used the 4.0 all weekend in JAX and I miss that pocket.
just ordered two bags with your links, thank you sir
YOUDAMAN!
It looks like the rucker 4.0 compact still has the interior pocket/bladder sleave. Yay for short people.
Haha, yeah I saw that. Weird. Been waiting for someone to confirm it’s true!
The 30 lb plate is a tight fit. Looks like that's probably the most amount of plate weight this pack can handle, yes?
Yes, but the latest editions have the double pocket so you can also get the larger plate in them now
@@JBOutside1 Ah... thanks!
What was the reason for eliminating the front pocket? Doesn’t seem to make sense.
Great video 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Yeah, I’m not exactly sure. It probably started with wanting to remove the zipper. Velcro would have been a terrible idea there. My magic 🎱 says it’ll be back.
cutting corners
@@cookiedestroyer402 saving weight and eliminating a failure point. But I’m. I’m not fan. Need that pocket.
Is there an alternative that you would recommend to the 4.0? It seems that the general consensus is the 3.0 is much better, but it does not seem like you can purchase it anymore.
Yeah, I'd personally recommend picking up a 3.0 from a Facebook group. Otherwise, the 4.0 is still a great bag for rucking. You could also get the Long Range Rucker if it fits your dimensions. That one has all the 3.0 only features I like.
I’m looking into getting one. I want to eventually carry 60 pounds for my walks. I am 5’8”. Any recommendations? Was looking at the 4.0 20L, but I didn’t not realized it capped out at 30 lbs
That’s actually not true anymore. The newest 20L bags have the two plate pocket setup like the bigger bags.
@@JBOutside1 I appreciate your response! I’m brand new to this. I should of pulled the trigger on the $60 dollar 30 pound plates from titan fitness last night, they just went back to $90 each.
@@JBOutside1Thank you for the information! I just bought my first rucker and thought I had made a big mistake. Your video showed up in my feed and now I'm glad I don't have to immediately do a return. Have a great day!
Yeah. I don’t see those changes as an improvement. @goruck I hope that you “redeveloped” the next generation pack to more pockets and such.
Yeah, me too. Hopefully we see some changes in the next edition but I don’t think so
Will the 20L fit plates and a fully loaded 3L water bladder? I'm trying to figure out if I need the 20L or the 25L to fit water and supplies. It kinda looks like the plates take up a lot of space inside the 20L.
Yes, it'll fit plates, water, and supplies. I've packed mine up for 24hr GORUCK events with no problem.
@@JBOutside1 Awesome Dude. Thank you!
I've had that 210D underneath on other gr bags IMO I FKN hate it 🤣🤦!! Found it way to slippery hahahaha, great Vid JB 👌
Haha! You might be the only one who hates 210D! 😳
As I shop the 4.0, and watch reviews and comparisons, I think I rather NOT have that flat zipper pocket on the front which is limited, but rather attach a custom setup of pouches a large admin pouch to the front molly webbing, making it even more customizable option. Not a fan of velcro as it can wear out over time. But for a first Ruck user for fitness, not too worried.
gotcha
Hi JB was just wondering what you use to attach your camelbak to your goruck. Ive just ordered the 20l 4.0 and milspec camelbak. Just wondering what you use as the hooks on the camelbak and goruck are both different. Maybe you could aslo do a video on these, would be great. Cheers
The camelbak hooks on to the D-ring just fine. I’ve tried a very small carabiner too. Either way works.
@@JBOutside1 cool..will give that a go, cheers
Hey man got a question for you.
As someone looking to do his first goruck event, how important is it to have a Rucker vs a GR1? I have a 21L GR1 right now but I have been going back and forth on whether to sell it for a Rucker for daily workouts and also events. I can’t keep both right now.
Any advice would be appreciated. Wish I could find a 3.0 it would be a no brainer but they’re like unicorns so it’s basically GR1 vs 4.0 20L
GR1 is totally and option. You’ll just have to be more careful with the weight plate and how you secure it. There are different shapes of plates for the GR1. If you plan to get serious and abuse that ruck then maybe a Rucker makes sense. But to start, using the GR1 makes sense and then find out how you like it.
@@JBOutside1 thank you for replying man. Been watching all your videos you’re the top channel out there for goruck info 🤘🏼 I made custom weight plates for the GR1 out of 1” steel in the shop so I’ve got a 20, 30 and 40 for it but they’d all fit in the Rucker too.
Neat trick is that a 1.25” steel plate at 9x12 weighs 40lbs. Heard you mention in a video how with the goruck plates you can only get 30 into the 20L Rucker. If tou DIY the plate you can fit 40. Happy to make you one on the house if you want it!
@@greasesgarage That's awesome. I definitely don't have steel skills. Thanks for the offer! I have plenty of heavy things already 👊🏻
Why won't a 45lb plate fit in the back longer pocket?
This video shows the first 20L 4.0. Newer models have the dual pocket like the 25L so the 45lb plate will fit
@@JBOutside1 awesome, thank you for the reply, I measured the pocket and figured it would fit but had trouble finding a video of someone talking about it.
Would you Recommend getting an osprey like pack and then putting one of ruckers plates in it? Or should I just get the Rucker
Just get a rucker if you plan to use a weight plate.
@@JBOutside1 okay thanks
Does the water bladder fit under the weight plate or on top of it inside the 4.0 20L?
It fits over it. The plate is in the pocket and the bladder hangs over.
wow not more front pocket?
You are correct. No front pocket.
No rucking for this gal yet (unless I find someone in NYC to show me the way)....Silly to think about this as an everyday bag? Like the lumbar support, can live with the changes - but drain holes, hmmmmm, in NYC. Whadayathink?
I wouldn't worry about the drain holes. Think of them as a way for the Big Gulp to drain out when you put one inside. 😜 There's also several Ruck Clubs in NYC, you'd be able to find one no matter where you were.
@@JBOutside1 I found a club in NYC and they have not responded after several attempts to make contact. P.S. In my head: setting backpack down in a puddle. Might have to think about it too much, but I think I like it better than bullet, despite some of the new additions/subtractions. You? I know what you’re going to say. I like both, equally and they serve different purposes…you always make my fingers press “buy.” Still curious about your choice.
@@seechangenyc280 To ruck, I prefer the Rucker 3.0...just for the outer pocket and zippers. I don't like velcro pockets. But I am using this MCT 20L daily and it works. Checkout the 15L bullet RUCKER they just released, it might be the best.
@@JBOutside1 It just came! It’s a half inch long for my torso. I know that sounds like nothing but it actually makes a difference. For me, even 18” is pushing it but in GORUCK I find the 18” ok. That’s why I was asking…because the 4.0 which has the new lumbar padding, and is 18” but I hear ya on the new version of the 3.0 but I get why they’re trying it. Ok, bullet stays.
Hello i’m planning to buy this rucksack along with the 30 pound. Just wanna make my moneys worth, would this be great for long distance rucking too? Planning to do about a 6-7 mile ruck in the forest near my neighborhood every weekend.
Yeah, it’s great for that. I have done 50+ with previous generations of the Rucker no problem.
@@JBOutside1 appreciate it!
This or a military issue "rucksack" with a frame better for exercise purposes?
Start with whatever you have but the Rucker will be better long term. Easier to throw around without the frame
@@JBOutside1 noted!
Seems like they added Velcro and got rid of the zipper, so then they could get a bunch of complaints, and then re-add them back in for the 5.0 😆
Haha, it was actually to stop from having to replace all the smashed zippers on the 3.0. But I would totally endorse the return of zippers and the front pocket. If you can find a 3.0 I’d get it.
@@JBOutside1 I won’t be smashing mine on the ground - but I suppose I understand the idea. I got the 4.0, because I really liked the Ranger Green. I suppose I can add a small pack in the front for storage if I really want to.
@@Mav0585 true. The new colors are pretty awesome
I want a 4.0 25L black or coyote do u know when there coming ?
I don’t, sorry. They just received a huge shipment though. They posted a video of unloading a ton of stuff at the warehouse. Maybe soon? 🤷🏼♂️ I post updates on my Facebook page: JB outside.
Will the plate pouch carry a 20 lb plate and a 10 lb plate? Like if I want to start with 20, then eventually add another 10 pounds?
Unfortunately, no. Not the 20L size. The 25L one does have two pockets so you could do it with the 25L sized Rucker.
There's actually a video done by GoRuck showing a 20lb and 10lb both fitting in the single pocket of the 20L rucker. czcams.com/video/Q8sHapYugzs/video.html&t
@@kameroncambier5507 good stuff. I missed the fact that they released that THINNER 10lb plate. The original 10lb plate was just as think as the 20lb plate but cropped down. That one won’t fit, as I originally said. BUT this newer style obviously fits. Thanks for pointing that one out! 👊🏻
@@JBOutside1Ahh I wasn't aware of the older version of the 10lb plate. Happy to help someone in a similar situation as I was before ordering a 20L rucker. Keep up the good work on the channel!
Busy day!
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Tropic Multicam...
Thanks!
Their site says that’s a 1000D not 500D.
Some of the models are 500D. The MCT is one of them. It's definitely 500D.
@@JBOutside1 that’s some false advertising then as the description for the TMC says it’s 1000D. I have one on order but I would not have ordered it if I knew it was only 500D. The missing elastic pouch is bad enough.
@@dylantodd9574 Ok, so I just checked the website and the description has definitely changed. I have two TMC bags, the rucker and bullet and they're both 500D. They MIGHT have started making them in 1000D so your best bet is to wait until it arrives and then hit up customer service if it's 500D. I agree totally that it's false advertising. The proofing of these details on their website has been poor at best.
@@JBOutside1 I reached out to customer service so I’ll let you know once I hear. My daughter has the 500D bullet in TMC and I wouldn’t feel comfortable beating that thing up like I do my 3.0.
@@dylantodd9574 Gotcha. I've been abusing my 500D TMC rucker and it's been just fine. For me the other changes are a bigger deal and why I kept my MCB 3.0.
Its bullshit that the plates are so expensive.
Agree. There are some less expensive options on Amazon.
You should start your own company and sell the same exact same for less…
You lost me at... only being able to put a 30 pound weights plate in there.
I know. That’s a bummer. Go big!
Military studies have resulted in the recommended max being 50 pounds. Rucking is "ok" for fitness but hits a wall of diminishing returns versus spine and joint strain. Nothing wrong with only 30lbs in a pack this size, it's most people's recommended pack weight for proper backpacking and we're talking people who do way more distance than ruckers.