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Fantastic I look forward to making this build in 2024 when the parts are not so expensive
at this rate in 2024 gpu will cost 3000 euro
For gaming 7700x is actually better in gaming , also cheaper . But if you want top tier gaming you gotta wait for the 7800X3D .
And for the the gpu you better buy of the partner models of 7900XTX cause some of the reference cards seem to have a small vapor chamber problem Also you don't wanna miss the third 8pin for more overclocking headroom
I finally was able to add the XTX to my Ryzen 7900x build. Thrilled.
How is that working out? Got the 7900x as well and waiting to pull the trigger on a xt or xtx.
Did they come up with the new drivers yet? And is pairing it with an AMD CPU give it some of extra juice?
@@balvrikk7822 I mean, is there really a reason NOT to use the xtx ? price is so close, at that point might as well spend a little bit more
@@HoodHussler SAM is most effective when AMD CPUs and graphics cards are paired, so there's that. Sometimes yields a bit more performance.
@@nekogami87 Only if you NEED a drop in upgrade and have a 700W PSU or something, or have a very restrictive case, but need the form factor
Loving AMD builds. Gonna build AMD ryzen 4 x3d variant when it come outs.
Me too.
Great stream, & thanks for the impromptu troubleshooting session. 🤞 the last flash attempt was solid & no problems for Chris later!
always fun to build a pc from scratch.. i remember going all out.. spent $4000 on my setup 5-6 years ago.. 2700x.. x470, 1080ti, duel 360mm radiator, 13 RGB thermaltake fans, RGB t hermal take water blocks for the gpu and cpu, thermaltake full sized view 71 glass case... bose qc 35 2 heaphones, 27 inch 1440p curved monitor, chair. desk.. keyboard mouse rgb... Been doing this for 26 years now.... i spent i think $1100 on just the overkill watercooling and fans haha, because well ive been watercooling for 26 years, and after 20 years using the same dangerden maze water block and eheim pond pump and heatercore that i just modded to work on new sockets... it was time
Upgraded the pc a little to a x570 and 3800x few years ago... but now i think im getting a 7900xt or xtx not sure, and a 5900x.. Id like to go to the 7900x cpu's but there is 0 point in getting a new mobo and ram, and a expensive cpu when the 5900x is like 200$ off right now...
I will say this, I'll take that 7900xtx off your hands you sht on a few days ago if you dont want it
When Steve read 'VGA pass-through cable' my mind went to Voodoo 2 days when you had 2 graphics cards, and you used a VGA pass-through cable to connect the 2d card to the 3d card to the monitor.
Glad to see things can go wrong for even the Pros. Also I’m glad you said you set this build before your review. And free is a great price and removes the value equation from the build picture.
Once again your honestly goes along way. Have a love and hate relationship with MSI but I find myself still using them.
Same I just keep having good luck with MSI so I default to them.
@@HypnoticSuggestion Exactly my thoughts...Not a fan, but I also "default on them"....until....
I watched this late but it was a great live stream, problems and all! Thanks to all that contributed parts to your effort.
I've been a pure AMD user and love the gamming rig. Honestly I've had 50 to 75% more blue screens from Intel on Win 11 than AMD. I feel AMD is a better experience.
less than 25 secs into the video and I already can tell that its better than Linus's live alreay
Can't help but think the CPU and GPU naming is a bit comical. We're two generations away from realizing the Ryzen 9 9950X + RX 9950XTX meme
I never want to misfortune on anyone, but it made me feel better about myself to see a highly competent and respected professional struggle with the same things I have. I've had the hardest time with a bios upgrade during my previous Zen 3 build - the mobo required a bios upgrade prior to CPU installation, and the gigabtye EZ bios feature (or whatever gigabyte calls it) would not update. I tried everything recommended and just said F it after 4 hrs and returned the board to Amazon. The replacement board worked fine - not sure why.
I have updated BIOS on a lot of these boards now. A lot will not play nice or simply will not work with a USB drive over 4GB, must be FAT32. You can't even use a partitioned larger drive either. A lot need the file renamed to something banal listed in small print on the damn website in an obscure location, all together a pain in the ass but my ancient USB Drive I wear around my neck now like a Holy Symbol.
@@Berserkism oddly I done literally hundreds of these, just this year, with multiple different thumb drives and never had a single issue. Up until now I'd characterize BIOS updates as very quick and easy.
Never struggled with BIOS updates, even in the old days of DOS floppy disks. Nowadays I just use a good old USB 2.0 4GB drive and it's as easy as it gets.
@@xynostasos9022 I think my issue was a board issue as it was the only variable that changed.
After watching this video, I picked an ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Gene motherboard for my 7950X build. No problems updating the BIOS or using the computer at all.
Yeah, this vid makes me want to avoid msi at all costs lol, my asus x370 board has never had trouble with bios updates.
Asus and evga for the win. Best motherboards. Period.
love your videos guys. Thanks for the time... the seemingly endless hours and hours of time testing... you have put in. Lol. But really your honest opinions are highly valued. Merry Christmas and all the best to you and your families
I had loads of memory training and other memory related issues when I first started building my 7950x with 128gb memory on Asus Crosshair Extreme board...but the latest BIOS update fixed everything in a snap...now everything works at rated speeds and timings.
Wonder if they fixed it, or just worsened the memory training lmao
@@TheHighborn I don't think it's the primary timings that are the problem. It's the sub timings that have to be keyed into BIOS to support all the different RAM available. As soon as that BIOS update got released, all my issues disappeared and everything started working perfectly.
@@GSP-76 sounds great man!
@@TheHighborn oh another thing I should point out is that if I took two sticks of memory out, it worked...it wasn't 100% smooth but getting 2 sticks of memory working was much easier than 4. I think over the next few months, AMD will keep releasing more updates to support more memory brands and timings. I would also strongly recommend buying AMD Expo memory. You'll have much better luck getting those to work out the box.
how long did it train for? was it more than 10 minutes?
Wow, can't believe this was your first time building in an O11-Dynamic. I don't have an evo version or an XL version, but I do have the standard O11-Dynamic that I built my 1st PC in back in the very beginning of 2020 right before covid ruined everything. Man, I picked an almost perfect time to build a rig and I was lucky to get a 2070 Super for under $450 and now I need a 5700x or 5800x or 5800X3D if I can save the money up to do it.
I fought it would wait until xfx version to be released to gather as many X's as possible.
Excited to see that motherboard round-up video. Cheers
Steve didn’t hate the 7900XTX it just wasn’t what was being promised by AMD and while it’s cheaper than a 4080 which was way overpriced the $999 being charged is still too high… that being said my 7900XTX will be here tomorrow.
Cool build. I decided to go Intel 13th gen…Z790 Maximus Hero is shipped! Can’t wait to do my own build…been 6+ years.
Awesome build. AMD Power to the Max.
It is a nice build. Too bad my 4090 would eat it alive. And so would the other 500,000 of us that got the 4090 so far. You can pair a 4090 with probably 30 different CPUs and beat this system. Just sayin...
BBQ dinner and drink, the best troubleshooting solution!
Just wish I could of got my hands on a RX 7900XTX here in the UK 😞 will be hoping for a good restock in the new year
Overchargers had them in stock for, relatively, a good length of time. I didn't want one, but went on at 2pm and got to the point of paying without any issues. I am sure with the restock, you will get one.
@@johnboylan3832 I would like to think that come the new year there will be an opportunity to pick one up
just built a 7700x and 6800 xt and it runs 4k 120 easy
@Veezo Uptown ASRock B650M PG RIPTIDE AM5 Micro-ATX and TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan DDR5 Ram 32GB Kit (2x16GB) 5600MHz (PC5-44800) CL36 Desktop Memory
Hope Christmas went well and looking forward to your Good content throughout 2023!.... Your recent Ryzen 7 5800x3d review was eye-opening 👀 ...L3 cache is KING...Thanks team....
Looking forward to catching up after work :)
Nice avatar.
I recomend rx7900xtx nitro+! Best 7900xtx until now!
This was fun wathcing while just playiong some random games hehe Ty Steve and Team
Based on information so far AIB 7900XTX are ~10% faster than AMD reference design. Which seems to suggest the only way to go is AIB card for ultimate build. I appreciate this option may not have been available at the time, but what I am trying to say is that judging performance based on reference design could be massively misleading.
Other thing I don't understand - 150W TDP CPU get's 360mm rad... 360W TDP GPU is cooled on air?! Does nobody see issue with that? What I am trying to say is that in order to have acceptable thermals GPUs with 300W+ TDP must be water-cooled and ideally should come as such from factory.
I'm betting the AIB cards are achieving that 10% performance increase with a MASSIVE power increase.
The problems with this card won't be fixed with overclocking. It's either a driver issue that will take time to resolve, or a hardware issue that will require a redesign of the chip architecture.
There are rumours of an RDNA3+ coming next year, so I assume it's the latter.
150w cpus are also fine on air zzz
@@Xune2000 You probably right... but nobody cares about power when the goal is ultimate FPS.
Like OK - the reference design 7900XTX get's me 160FPS on 360W and 4090 gets 189FPS at 400W... maybe. If AIB OC card on water get's me 200FPS at 480W then who cares?! I will go with more FPS every time.
Point is - high efficiency is NICE TO HAVE, but ultimate performance is what matters.
I am not going to see the difference either way - in fact I am still running 1350W PSU from 10 years ago when I had 2X4870X2 Quad-CF system. Back then power draw from just 4GPUs was 640W on stock clocks.
As well don't forget that for both CPU and GPU the power consumption is not constant. What is most important is the maximum framerate they can achieve in certain complex scene. Yes efficiency may be important if you GPU rendering, but if you just gaming then really you don't care - it is going to peak in few places and the more always the better.. as long as your PSU can handle it.
@@Dusk007 And I guess that is partially my point - why put $200 360mm on CPU, when really the hottest and loudest part of the system will be GPU?!
If somebody wants cooler and more quiet system, then sure I can see benefit in water cooling both GPU and CPU.
But why just water cool CPU and then listen to jet taking off in your room every time you start playing more demanding title?!
For me this looks like misplaced priorities... the guy who skips legs days type of thing. mahusive 360 rad on CPU and GPU cooking eggs on air.
I mean I appreciate that so far there have been no AiO 7900s, only Asrock waterblocked one which requires custom loop (that is kind of sad as the only way I am getting 7900XTX or 4090 is if they are WC), but still that 360 rad just looks wrong next to air cooler GPU.
@@lp9280 I care, and a lot of people who pay their own electricity bills care.
If a person is so wealthy that money is no object, or they're living with their parents and don't contribute to the bills, then I can understand them not caring about how much electricity their computer uses. However the majority of people are concerned about the efficiency of their computer and how much their electricity bill is.
24:36 I believe it's the letter "o" in "O11", so you can't say "zero". (US tech people using "oh" for a number would make no sense - might as well say "nil".)
Just called Ali from optimum tech for a mini itx god. Gotta love it 😅
His stuff is next level 🙌 awesome channel
Great Stream Quality! 1440@60FPS
On any Intel I could fry eggs on it.
But my old AMD FX-6350 Desktop build still uses less power than my workstation laptop and it's still going strong even after 10 years. It runs so cool I don't even need an air conditioner. ;)
Shout out to the guy who made the front fell off joke! I was surprised he didnt get the joke xD
I'm watching the VOD now. By the 15 minute mark it started getting mildly annoying/frustrating that other people on the shoot that were not mic'ed up. They were relaying questions from stream and Steve answered them. That's fine, but not hearing what was asked meant no context, so I had to guess what it was about.
I'd suggest in the future either have everyone on mics, or repeat any question on camera before answering.
How can HUB be AMD shills and criticize them at the same time?! /s
They need to release RX 7950!
thanks for leaving the chat up
I've always heard that you should never update the BIOS unless you have to.
One of those - if it ain't broke, don't fix it - kind of things.
The only reason I updated my board was due to memory compatibility issues and a vulnerability.
Thank God for dual bios. One of them failed, and I was able to restore the bad one thanks to the hot switch.
Waste of alot of time and potentially messing up the board. It can get fixed, just a pain.
It's best practice to update the BIOS for a new build, especially for a new platform that has received several fixes.
Are we going to have 7950 XTX ??? I hope so. R 7950x3D and RX 7950 XTX that puts smile on my face
Great build, although I would not use MSI's water cooling after the number of RMAs they had and their policy of not accepting changes outside the USA. A shame
any AIO is lame.. go custom.. been doing custom for 26 years now back when we used car heatercore rads, pond pumps and custom made blocks.... lol i will never do an AIO..
Just an FYI: M-Flash can read MBR or GPT formatted devices in FAT16/32 or NTFS, but not EXT or ExFat. BIOS Flashback is limited to FAT with MBR. Every BIOS update I've done on my B550 A-Pro with M-Flash was done with the BIOS update file stored on the root of my GPT/NTFS formatted Seagate 3TB USB + Hub -- an old school spinner drive. Also, M-Flash's file manager should also be able to browse SATA and m.2 drives so downloading and storing BIOS updates to the root of those drives (via a Linux Live Session) is an option and probably faster than the flash drive salad approach ... 😆
Incase someone is looking for the build cost, it is currently (22 Dec 2022) sitting at $5,200
When are you going to do another Intel ARC review? I hear it's been improved.
I would love to build myself a complete AMD rig,and now with the RX 7950 or 7990xtx on the horizon, the possibilities are plentyfull!!
For anyone reading this, which is better for a 4K display/resolution? Using FSR at max quality which is 1440p or using the in game render scale option? I would think that using the render scale option is better right? You can lower the render to 85% and its going to do something like 1852p. Which should look better than FSR at max. Am I missing something?
I can tell you where you went wrong, yep. You put the side panel on before BOOT and TESTING. Never ever put the side panel on because you will only end up having to take it off again.
That MSI ACE looks freaking nice.
I have a AMD 3300x CPU from new here in South Australia....I do hope when time come soon to get Ryzen 7 5800x3D that they are available!!!! thanks for info
Using that exact model of a USB thumb drive (with the swivel) is just asking for trouble. Used to work in front-line support, we'd see a few of those in with data-loss every week.
Mate I've updated over 100 boards without issue.
That is a MONSTER case! :O
Love this channel. The PC looks good. maybe i will rebuild this one for myself too.
@Thomas B hmmm not really rich... just working and saving money for my hobby. and every 2 years a new pc :)
@@thomasb282 How much for this exact build ?
So you get any real benefit from using all AMD parts? Like the smart access memory or whatever? Or would it be similar performance to using an AMD processor and Nvidia GPU?
in reality its not that different. You do get SAM but it's benefits really just depends on the game.
The only benefit of an all AMD build would be video encoding / decoding by utilizing both the iGPU and the dGPU.
Highly engaging!
One of these nights... I'll catch you guys.
what RAM modules you used exactly?
What power supply was used?
I will never forget you trying to update a brand new motherboard 😂😂😂
msi s360.. hell yea. thats the AIO i have. i put some phantek argb halos on the fans and it looks great
On Nvidia, some RTX 4090 dont work with some boards until Nvidia lanch some bios for that models!!
Is this my xmas present?
What was the lighted up Lego in the background? ;-)
Had trouble flashing a MSI B550A-Pro board and in the end just used a good old 8GB USB stick formatted to FAT32 and just put the new bios renamed to msi.rom on it and used bios flashback USB port pressed the little button beside it and presto it worked. For normal bios I use a 8GB USB stick formatted NTFS and that works fine.
Cheers for that having similar issues on my Asus b650e-f might have to try flesh back
7900 XTX vs 6950 XT:
181/145 = ~1.25 so 25% performance uplift in 1440p
113/84 = ~1.35 so 35% performance uplift in 4K.
4:50 Mine was loose, but for some reason yours doesn't have the small blue translucent tape on certain parts of the board like mine and another CZcamsr's did. It looks like that's a used board. Also missing a lot of the plastic peel.
MSI checked it before sending.
Those SSD stickers are designed to be thermally conductive and not be removed
It wasn't a sticker. It was a heatsink and it very much can be removed on high end boards.
Aren't the amd gpu's being recalled?
Had a similar issue before, and it was the cpu faulty. I thought the probs was the GPU.
Was the problem memory settings makeing it unstable?
Apparently get higher fps.
Pairing with amd cpu and 7900 xtx
I wonder if an 8000 gpu chip will come out next year
Theres 7950xt 7950xtx and 7990xtx
Wait, did they update the BIOS successfully yet ?
Where's the 2nd XTX...?
I am waiting for "ultimate all intel build" with games test :P
I just think it's great that AMD build's are just as good and in some cases better than intel and Nvidia.
Was not the case for a very long time.
Bought an 6950xt for 750€. The 7900xtx for an extra 400€ don’t worth it for me tho.
7700x and a x670 asrock mobo are here. Will use this video as a guide line for my all amd build
Possible if you can do a review AMD+Radeon vs Intel+Nvidia.
Welcome back to the real world of pcs mounting!..In FlashBack you must remove cpu+ddr just to put almost only the board in the procedure!
The front did fell off... Very unusual.
This is why no good technician wants to "repair" PCs anymore, no one wants to pay for 4-5hrs just to get back to baseline...
I really need the motherboard Review. I bet i got the most trash one with AS Rock Steel 670e
Why no body doing any reviews on B650E and B650 😅
This has been the longest BIOS update I have ever seen.
I'd say the ones that failed, never recovered and had to go through the RMA process took longer lol
need a mic on the guy asking questions
Hopefully this is my next build in a sff
Don't forget to LIKE the video
After 13 minutes of seemingly random chitchat not related to the build, I abandoned the video. I’ll check my subscription status…
Yeah probably best to unsubscribe.
Nice build, I have only ever used asus motherboards in my builds. Going to stick with asus and stay away from msi 😂 after seeing this ! Omg what a mission, updating the bios should not be this hard.
Manual? Who's Manual?
I wanted to watch the whole thing but way too many youtube commercials
I don't see Radeon RAM. Sorry, you failed this one.
Shops want here in italy 1500-1600 euro for the 7900 xtx...
What case is this?
Lian li 011 dynamic evo
Nice stream, Steve! I want to be your cousin so bad! :)
at least rgb looks fine
Next time choose an asus or asrock board and you‘re good to go;)
😂 That was disappointing… I never had a build not boot. Only hackintoshes are challenging, but that’s in the past for me.
It did boot though, it worked. If they just installed Windows and got going it would have been fine. There was a bug with the update process, probably a hardware compatibility issue. These things can happen.
Way Kool !!!
We need BenchmarXXXX.....!!