AMERICAN woodworker tries METRIC for the FIRST TIME! What happens next will SHOCK YOU! (Parody)
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- A lot of you guys have been trying to convince me to go metric but I've been pretty darn hesitant until now. I've been trying out a metric diet the last few days and the results have been pretty good. (It's okay. Have a laugh. Don't stress so much. We all do things different ways with different tools, different systems and different techniques. And that's kind of cool.)
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"If we were all the same, there wouldn't be any competition"- Me, I think. Seriously though, relax, have fun and appreciate the fact we all have so much to offer. No matter how we get the job done.
@Inspire Woodcraft, but isnt that the attitute which causes the USA to always stay imperial? I am European and dont care what you use over there, but i imagine it as pain i nthe ass to divide all the time by 8, 16, 32 and all those outdated and unnecassary standards. The longer you stay with that system, the harder the change would be. I understand the point thats its easier to use imperial in an already imperial working space "Yes i replace you that 10" whatever thing" instead of 25,4cm. But as soon you have to make something fit where the object didnt care about any standards... uff. Saw some youtube vids of those workers who use calculators to even get the stuff they measure on the same level to add it. 1 3/4+ 1/8+ 3/16. what ? xD
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If you feel weak and flimsy weighing only 106 kg, it might comfort you that you also weigh a hefty 212 metric pound.
@@antonsmith1497 and then add subtraction on top of that.
The main problem is you need to remember a numer and a fraction, which is two more numbers when you do calculation.
My mate was measuring a long wire hf radio antenna he said its 60 metres 2 foot
I think you should try metric beer. It comes with more beer and less water.
Guinness 🍻
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 no wonder when I go to the us I drink more than the usual to get the same buzz
@@MohammedNatheer And US beer is weak as though it were brewed for democrats ;)
@@DeeegerD 🤣🤣
A six pack in metric is 42 beers - double it and add 30.
The americans are dangerous enough with imperial. Now they are at "inches away from hitting..." I dont want them down to millimeters.
they might miss be a million millimeters
@@jyvben1520 but that's only 0.6 of a mile ;)
Actually, there was a test in Australia where the drawings of the same house was converted to metric. Two teams stated to build houses from those different drawings, one from the drawing with the new metric units (all was in mm, nothing else) and the old unit that the builders was used with (imperial).
The losses in material then needed to transport after the build was finish was about one or two car loads from the metric, and about on large truck from the imperial buildings. And that is actually what they usually get. Easier to calculate, less error. And the carpenters cut metric on size, and imperial over size. Easier to remember 12 mm or 13 mm then 1/8 or whatever 1/2 and 1/32 is (or what is equivalent to a mm in inch). And yes, 1 inch are exactly 25.4 mm 1/2 is 12.7 mm, 1/4 is about 6.3 mm and 1/8 is 3.2 mm and 1/16 is 1.6 mm and 1/32 is 0.8 mm
So, calculations are easier, and that leads to less errors.
no shit because having the measurements down to the very little digit would be easier than trying to work shit out in your head
@@Rumym8 putting shit in my head, now.
The tip of your index finger is EXACTLY one inch. Measure it. Imperial is based on the golden ratio. There is no better, more natural measuring system, point blank.
@@bestyoutubernonegraternumber1 nope. Each person have different length of their fingers.
And no, imperial are not based off the golden ratio.
And inches have been between 2 and 5 cm. Depending on which country or even city inch you uses.
That was why changing into metric system was so good.
We had both an industrial and a wood working inch here in Sweden until we stopped that shit and went fully imperial.
Now everyone uses nm, micrometer, mm, m and km instead of inches for nails and dimensions on wood. and meters for longer distances. Yes, the dimensions on nails and building materials are multiples of 25 mm. You are welcome to guess why.
US customary "Imperial" units are NOT standard. Metric units are.
I also don't understand where this persistent myth comes from that the US uses "imperial units".
@@tstcikhthys They use... Metric! (yes, it is true! But then they convert it to some... strange units that no one understands)
@@Xanthopteryx I was referring to the fact that everyone keeps saying "imperial units" when they refer to the US, but the US uses US customary units; they're actually different. Imperial units are only used by Canada, the UK, and some other Commonwealth countries. But you're right; in the US, US customary units are defined using metric units.
We don't call them World Standard units. Just Standard. And if you know anything about the USA, our context is scoped to our borders.
@@charanvantijn541 Wrong. The metric system (SI Units) do NOT contain US customary units. Rather, US customary units reference metric units (e.g., 1 inch = 2.54 centimeters exactly).
Lol, love it. But you will find that including metric measurements opens your videos up to a great number more woodworkers. Most of the world in fact.
Valid point indeed!
When you say, most of the world. You actually mean all of the world outside of the USA, minus, Liberia and Burma.
@@harveysmith100 and england...at least macro level measurements (miles). But I do suppose we aren't watching a road construction channel so not very applicable
@@hansonlife9465 Point well made. They are actually constructed in Km but then use Miles on the sign boards. Very British.
@@harveysmith100 haha that's funny
As Pythagoras discovered, the system we now call "Imperial" is ok for building Egyptian pyramids but, as NASA discovered, it's less useful for landing probes on Mars 😉
Or putting a man on the moon. Metric did that also, just the controls all had to be recalibrated to imperial so the astronauts could fly the thing.
Luke Dogwalker and as NASA discovered grinding mirrors on Hubble. The pyramids incidently were constructed using cubits, palms and digits, not imperial or metric.
You'd wonder how Chippendale managed to make such furniture before metric was even heard of!
The biggest smile though is your, "the system we NOW call imperial"! The system has been used since1824, metric didnt come in until 1965. However did we manage? The bridges, steam engines, railways, ships, all during the Victorian industrial revolution and not a millimetre in sight!
@@gbwildlifeuk8269 wait, why do machinists use decimal fractions instead of multiples of two then? What's a "thou" if not an admission of the fact that to do annotations on really precise stuff fractions just don't cut it in terms of conveniance?
@@gbwildlifeuk8269 The French started using the metre in the 1790, whereas the first coherent metric system (CGS) was developed in the 1860s. Otherwise, being older doesn't mean being right - there was, for example, a unit called rod (Rute in German), which had about 20 definitions, ranging from 3 to 9 metres, all depending on the region and field where it was used. So were these better? (I am not against using inches and such, it obviously doesn't give lower (or higher) precision, as the video points out. Even if I have to do some math when you people say 5/8 inch, I laughed watching it.)
@@avandras i never said imperial was more precise than metric so i dont see the point of your rant
When a 2" x 4" is actually 1 1/2" × 3 1/2", but a 38mm x 88mm is actually 38 x 88mm I do question the imperial system🤣🤣
Blame it on the building industry. When framing a house your slimmed down 2 by 4 will be covered with sheets of 1/2" plywood to become a 4" wall, with a 'real' 2 by for you would end up with a 5" wall, giving the cabinet maker a headache. Same for doorways. It is just laziness, if you want to hit a guy over the head with a 1 1/2" x 3 1/2" he will be long gone so you pretend it's a 2 by 4 you are waving about ;-)
Because it’s easier to say 2 x 4 ‘s you don’t go to the lumber yard, and ask for 1 1/2 x 3 1/2 ‘s the same as a 2 x 6 is 1 1/2 x 5 1/2.
@@astranger448 But we're constantly told that 1/2 inch plywood isn't actually 1/2 inch, so that arguement in invalid. Our 12mm ply is 12mm. :)
There seems to be a sort of measuring "slang" where the size from the rough cut log mill carries through to the fine finish despite losing thickness at each stage.
I live in Canada are we where we use the Metric system. My US friends have asked, with a touch of sarcasm I think, when we will start driving on the other side of the road as well. I tell them we have an experiment going on right now trying it starting with trucks first to see how it goes
Awesome! LOL
That was a common joke when Sweden switched to right-hand traffic in 1967
If you really want to troll your US friends. Then add a bit of the old Danish imperial into the mix. One Danish mile is aprox 7,5 kilometers.
@@brostenen Which is actually equivalent to the old nordic Sea mile = 4* 1 nautical mile = 4*1,852 km = 7,408 km
@@kjellg6532 That I did not know. 🙂
I too experimented with the metric system last year. I have one of my Dad’s straight scale sitting around the shop. It is a metal scale with imperial on top and metic on bottom. Someone challenged me to try the metric system in my measuring. I did find it easier to use. Now I use both systems, depending what I am working on
The advantage of metric is also another thing. If we say that mile is kilometer and we say that foot is meter and inch is centimeter. Then it takes so time to figure out what 186549 inches is in feet. As compared to metric, you just move the dot or comma (depending on what you use in your country) the correct number of times to the left.
Learned both systems in school (70's). Now I use both interchangeably. Metric is best though.
I would think all handymen use both. In europe brass piping couplings are in inches but copper pipe diameters are in metric.
Last generation to be taught imperial at school so can use both imperial mostly for large dimensions metric for the smaller stuff
😂😂😂 I'm all for the metric system, but you made me lol 😂😂👏
I made the switch in 1999 and never looked back. Welcome to the club. Scott
I’ve debated both but the only real advantage is when I have to start making adjustment for wood thickness then metric is far easier than fractions.
the only? how about being compatible with the rest of the world?
@@szepi79 a minor detail if you're making things in your shed. It's more important to be accurate than to worry about what the rest of the world is doing
@@howardchambers9679 yeah, but he (John) never said anything about that. Based on that debated on both of them, I find it more plausible that he is doing more than just some shad work for himself.
@@szepi79 unless he's exporting I don't see that
I’m based in the US and am about 50/50 metric and inches in my shop. Partly this is because I do a lot of CAD work so it translates more easily, but I also only buy metric hardware. A 3mm bolt is 3mm, I don’t have to remember a number or approximate what size bit I need like I do with a #6. The other huge difference in my experience is working with fractions vs decimal values which, incidentally, is how machinists work so maybe they’re onto something?
Metric allows for far easier conversions, but especially that last par is important. Working with decimals is just so much easier and more precise than with fractions. I get that the US can't simply change when a lot of their infrastructure is based on imperial, and pretty much everyone has known it since birth. But metric really is the proper modern day standard. In fact, funnily enough, the modern exact measurement for a pound is even measured by using the "standard kilogram". As in, a pound is defined as "0.45359237 kg"
EDIT: And I believe the modern day inch is also defined based on the centimeter.
@@Sanquinity Most of the rest of the world survived converting ages ago.. metric was not the standard always and yes some strange remains still exists in Europe as well - just be aware if you are talking a local inch, Imperial inch or standard.. just to mess it up.
@@hookedonwood5830 There where a lot fewer road signs back then.
@@darkiee69 in the UK roadsigns still have miles on, not Km. Everything else is metric (pretty much) so I think America will cope
@@Sanquinity inch is define by meter as meter is define by light travel path in vacuum in 1/299 792 458 s, you can use cm but it basically you converting from meter.
Another big plus is that you can combine weights, lengths and volume all together in one system. And prehaps even more
1000cm3 water = 1ton(1000kg) and its 1000cm x 1000cm x 1000cm = 1000dm = 1000liters of volume
I’ve come to a similar conclusion-I’m starting to use metric more.
It’s amazing where knowledge and facts can take you! Nice to see you are open to new things and willing to learn and follow new opportunities. That’s the way humans survive...not by living in the past. Fear of the new (and the anger it generates) gets you nowhere! Well done you! 😊
😂😂😂 damn! You got me with this one 😉 well played!!
As a true believer in metric, this was pretty funny. Good work!
Point is good. Use what you want! I'm personally so happy I don't have to use weird scales and fractions, but if it's useful for you, keep doing it.
I just built a 90cm wide vanity for my home here in the US. #thuglife
Friggin hilarious! Loved the one-pass-on-table-saw project and the paper thin planer output!
But seriously, as a 31 year shop teacher here in the US, I prefer to work in metric...when I can. It's soooo much easier when you have to do any shop math that involves multiplying or dividing. Most Americans, in my experience, hate metric and I blame that on the way it's taught. In the US, metric system is taught in Math class and they drill the kids ad nauseum with useless conversions (eg: 15.4 cm = _______ mm). I'll hazard a guess that people in metric countries RARELY make these kinds of conversions. They simply measure in whatever unit they're working with (mostly mm, cm or m; NEVER decimeters!). Am I right, metric viewers?
Several years back, I did a project with my students where we measured in millimeters only. After their initial hesitation, they loved it! No pesky fractions to deal with. Whereas most US students have great difficulty reading an imperial ruler's fractions, my students were able to measure in millimeters after a 10-minute lesson. It's just a number line after all...and they're all familiar with that from math class. And the smallest commonly used unit (mm) is small enough of a tolerance for all but the finest woodworking projects.
My ONE complaint is that all ruler manufacturers that I've seen label their rulers incorrectly. The key near the zero mark says "mm", but the numbers on the ruler are centimeters. For example, the "1" is at 1cm, not 1 mm. It should say "10" to match the key. Yes, I realize that the individual tick marks are millimeters, but this is confusing to my students. Once they understand that "1" is really "10" mm, they're off and running!
Thank you for what you do. It really is a shame that shop class and other similar classes keep disappearing from the education system.
I think the biggest issue is that people get taught or used to a system and then can't figure out how anyone could possibly do it any other way. I personally am not opposed to any system but I did grow up using the imperial or standard system with both carpentry related materials and automotive, so it's comfortable for me. In the automotive industry things slowly started switching to metric or becoming a mixture of metric and imperial, and I learned to adapt. But here in the states carpentry related tools, equipment and even hardware are still far more commonly found in imperial units, so there is really no incentive to make the switch. In fact one might say that it's almost encouraged not to. I think that in other places where that is not the case, people just can't wrap their heads around how this works. I completely agree about the ease of use math-wise. I have found my own workarounds. In most practical applications when I need to add a few fractions, I don't even do math at all. I measure to say 1-5/16, and then move my rule to a zero point, like a whole inch mark, and then measure from that point the other "X" amount. I'm sure you understand what I'm saying. Although it's far less complicated to do than to explain in writing.
I have been reading US based tapes and rules since I was a little kid so for me it just makes sense: just keep splitting things in half. I actually struggle with metric rules because I find myself having to focus and count the millimeters and keep track of how many centimeters I already counted and, like you said, we aren't "allowed" to use decimeters. This is in part because I have not been taught to use metric and I am not practiced. With an imperial tape or rule I just look at it and know exactly what it means as soon as I see it. I see people use metric rules all the time and they are just fine. Just as I am with imperial units. One thing I will say is that being off by a half millimeter can wreak havoc on a project, especially if compounded. In certain projects a half millimeter may as well look like a mile. I have not seen a single tape or rule commonly available here in the US that reads less than a whole millimeter. I know they are out there because some of my higher-end tools have the option of buying in parts of millimeters. But it's seems silly that I would have to spend the money on a high end tool just to be able to split a millimeter.
This whole debate is why I have been trying to encourage folks to stop measuring as much as possible and let the materials themselves do the hard work. Most of the time neither a metric or imperial rule will read something 100% accurate without braking out a micrometer, so why use either one if you don't have to?
@@InspireWoodcraft HI, I’m a steel fabricator in the UK. Your confession that when you need to add fractions, you move the tape to the nearest full inch and measure again proves it’s way more difficult than adding whole numbers as with metric. Taking the metric equivalents of your example 1 5/16”: 1 inch =25mm, 5/16=8mm so 33mm. Now multiples becomes 33,66,99,132,165 etc use a calculator if necessary but my point is that it’s more accurate to hold the tape still and mark off multiple measurements rather than keep moving it. Kept still your only tolerance is the mark you do each time so 1x tolerance all the way down however many marks your doing. By moving you have now doubled that to 2x tolerances. First one for where you moved the tape to to start and then your next mark. Now repeated only 4 times you have introduced 8 tolerances. There are times I could be putting 15 bars in a gate so your method would not be good for my job if I wanted accurate even spaces all the way. Normally for this task I’d measure what I have and divide it by the number of bars and put the figure in my calculator memory, which I round up to one decimal point of a millimetre. Then by hooking my tape on the end I just keep adding the calculator memory and thus I’m never more than one tolerance out.
But I do want one of your planers because it can take off nearly an inch with each pass!!😂🇬🇧
I’m from india and even though we’re officially metric still most of our thermometers and measuring tapes are in imperial and in Casual and business talks we still use imperial for everything except for measuring weight and volume
Even though land measurements are written in metric people still convert it into imperial
I measure in mm, cm, dm, m, km, ... All depending on what you want to do with it. How long is a paper (A4)? Roughly 3x2 dm. Exactly? 297x210 mm.
How wide is this kitchen door? 60? 120? 40? Cm. This is standard measures for kitchen cabinets.
I need a stick to put down as a marker in the garden. How long? Well.. maybe 3-4 dm?
I need a box for my stuff. The longest piece to fit is almost 2 dm so it should be longer than 2 dm.
It all depends on how accurate i have to be. No one remembers 193 mm when in the shop looking for a box. But 2 dm is easy. And no need to know that the kitchen cabinet is 600 mm because it is 60 (not even using a unit here! If i ask for a kitchen cabinet door i just say a 60 door, 120 height, and everyone knows).
Washing machines are actually the same. 40, 60. Fridge: 60, 120, maybe some arbitrary special size like.. 180. Rare i would say. Stove the same, 60 is the most common.
Normal kitchen cabinets are 60 (a double as it is called is 120). And a small one is called 40 (there are also 20 as an example).
So everything is easy multiples and, things fit easily thanks to that. I normal cases.
I really love standards! It makes life so much more easy!
Metric viewer here. We definitely use dm, since 1 dm³ is a litre, a volume which in turn has the mass of 1 kg of water. I'd say it's the very key to understanding the metric system. But when building stuff professionally, sure, millimetres are the standard.
Of course Imperial is so much better, especially when you want to subtract 13/64 from 11 & 7/8, or multiply 1&15/32 by 4&11/16. And what's a third of 29/32? Lol
Easy, 29/96.
@@massimookissed1023 OK, so that's one out of three. And the answer to the other two problems is....? :)
what
Your video was both tongue-in-cheek and inspirational. As someone in the mid 60's, your video has given me the courage to come out as someone who is bi-measurement. Most of the time I think and use imperial measurements, but I now lean to metric in certain situations. European hinges are 35mm bore, mount 37 mm from the front. I have drunk the Festool kool-aid and drill 5mm shelf pin holes at 32mm intervals. Sheet goods are a mix of imperial length and width, but metric in thickness. The beauty of metric is that it is already expressed in decimal.
I do some engine work as well as wood work, and once I switched to a metric crescent wrench, it was all much easier!
I believe you mean a shifting spanner. No such thing as a "wrench" in metric.
@@goulash75 I believe you mean an "adjustable" spanner...
@@howardchambers9679 A Bahco spanner (Swedish invention!)
@@howardchambers9679 And we have screws that screw. Not bolts... A bolt does not have thread. If it has a thread, it is a screw.
@@Xanthopteryx so my threaded coach bolts are actually screws?!! Wow I learn so much from yt comments. I'll have to inform the hardware shop they've labelled everything up wrong!
Although I'm not sure what screws and bolts have to do with the different names for the same thing
lolololol 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 I think I need a set of metric winding sticks 😂
As someone who's older, and having used the metric system my whole life, but now lives in the US I can say quite categorically that the metric system is not more accurate than imperial. However it's a damn sight easier to work with and to measure and to do the math with.
Well, depends on the type of math... Golden ratio, fractions, and other types of math that don't break down easily to units of 10 or change over time are where metric can fall short. It's just much better for most science and engineering math but there are always exception to any system as no system is perfect at everything...
Everyday use and nature tend to not follow precise units of 10. For example, the Earth's rotation is steadily decelerating at an irregular rate. So no long term precise unit of measurement will remain accurate forever, which is probably one of the reasons pretty much no one has adopted metric time, for example. Though, it's popular in the internal functions of computers.
Some things in life are also more an art than science, and metric is better at science but that makes it less useful in art...
The precision is in how accurately you measure, not what units you measure in ... But yes, with ten fingers and ten toes, working in eighths, sixteenths, and thirty-seconds just doesn't make sense! It'd be like buying eggs by the dozen ... Oh, wait, we still do that!
@@ZeoCyberG of course they break down easily, and certainly far more easily than imperial does. That's what the numbers after the . are for!
@@kurtadkins880 That isn't easier, that's different and you can get into extremely large number after the "." ... Like calculating Pi to the million decimal point vs just writing 22/7 in fractions... Easier and simpler is relative...
@@ZeoCyberG from a practical standpoint it's far easier. Calculators have been handling decimals since the 70s, yet none of them handle, for example, 13/64ths particularly well.
The best on the Imperial System is that it's defined by the metric System ... So all imperial units are just crapy metric messurements 😂
If you doubt, just go meet woodworkers in Germany and Switzerland ...
Doesn't matter what system, as long as you use the right tools for the job.
Here in India, we get to buy wood in 8ftx4ft boards, steel/aluminium tubes in 600 cm lengths, water pipes in fractional inch inner diameters and foot lengths, electrical conduits in millimeter outer diameters but still in foot lengths, drive on the left side of the road, measure our roads & land in feet & acres, distances in kilometers, but building/construction is completely metric.
The best part, threaded fasteners!
The same shop will sometimes sell m12 bolts with half inch nuts 🤔🤔
Or metric nuts with imperial bolts. Some of them DO fit, but only by accident, and only with substantial force.
Why? First a British colony, then lots of tech transfer from the soviets, then collaboration with japanese and Germans, finally in 1992 everything was an open market, the Koreans entered with some ok quality stuff but immediately the Chinese entered and now everyone sells everything in whatever measurements they please, so sometimes 12mm is half an inch and sometimes a foot is actually 300mm 😂😂😂😂
The funny thing is that most countries use a combination of both. Even the the ones that have diehard metric fans. They are both useful in my opinion.
The funny thing is that the USA is almost like the UK was 20 years ago. We heard of this "Metric" thing, but what's wrong with the old system ? I mean, what's wrong with an inch being the length of 3 grains of barley, and an acre being the area a man can plough with an ox in a day !!
Even Brits, stubborn as we are, realise Metric makes things so much easier.
Well i’ll be damn@£*! Now i know why all my cuts are to small. I live in europe and I use metric...🧐 i switch to imperiaal and voila... it fits
Had a good laugh this morning. Thank you. Best regards from GERMANY. A metric-user.
As a kid in school here in Ireland we were taught imperial. Some time in the middle of the 1970’s we moved to metric. At the time it was confusing to say the least. 45 years later we still order our timber and plumbing in imperial but cut metric.
They taught us metric in the 70’s here in the USA as well, it just didn’t stick. In reality, it’s a mix here now, just more on the imperial side.
Same experience for me in Canada. I use Imperial for projects and all of our building materials are in Imperial, but we drive in metric and buy fuel, food, alcohol in metric, take medicine in metric, etc. I really hate the fractional system of Imperial, though. Working with decimals would be so much easier when measuring stuff.
@@jeanchapman1301 similar in England as its difficult to visualise a metre as opposed to a yard, if youre used to imperial. They say metric is more accurate, it is if working in nanometres and the likes but for woodwork? No way! If youre desperate you can go into thousands of an inch with imperial, how close do they want it?
And as for him fitting that shelf you need neither, offer the shelf up, pencil line on inside of leg, cut -it fits! No tape required
@@fergusontea yeah that’s the way it is here.
What a mess
On another note. I do find it amusing that for a country that threw out its imperial masters. You cling so strongly to an imperial measuring system.
Well, it's actually called the US customary measurement system... It's just based on the Imperial and units of measurements used for most of human history but people just call it imperial despite any differences to the British Imperial system...
While metric was created in part to create a more universal standard, but that's an example of forcing conformity that tries to eliminate any difference in ways of thinking, which doesn't fit well with US ideals of freedom and individuality.
But it's not like the US doesn't use Metric, it's just not dominant in daily life but it's used regularly in engineering and science...
Now I know why the USA needs that much wood ;)
there would be 2 issue with the imperial system.:
1. It is not consistent. Let me explain the difference.
imperial units: inch, foot, yard, mile. 1foot=12inces, 1 yard= 3 feet, 1 mile=1760 yards or 5280 feet 🤯🤪
metric units: mm, cm, m, km 1 cm = 10mm, 1m=100cm=1000mm, 1km=1000m and so on.
You can easily switch units if you need to in metric, while in imperial ...
2. You measure in fractions. What is that all about? Didn't you hear about the decimal point? what is that 32nd of an inch? Or 16th of an inch? What do you do if you need 14th of an inch? And how do you make divisions? If you have a board of 1 foot 5 inches and 1/8 of an inch How do you divide that in 3 equal parts??? 😱
🤣😂🤣😂
Thank you! I needed that ti start my day!
All the best to you and your family.
Keep the awesome videos coming!!
Great video :) You made me laugh ;) greetings from "metric" Poland :)
I have watched several of your videos this morning, with many more to go, but THIS is the one that earned the ‘sub’!
Cute. All the scales in my shop have both metric and imperial numbers. I use both, depending... If involves arithmetic, I prefer to juggle whole numbers rather than fractions. Ultimately, the numbers don’t matter; it just matters if it fits.
This is so funny and true! In doing HVAC customers used to ask me "What temperature should I keep my thermostat on?" ....... whatever you're comfortable with lol. Humidity and so much affects it.
I'm so glad you demonstrated that if I drill a hole, the hole is the same size as the drill bit I used, but not the same size as other drill bits. You're a frickin' genius!
No no no, Freedom units are all we need. It makes everything simpler. Everything is either quarter inch or half inch. You don't need anything else. Just bud together a whole bunch of half inches until you reach the right length. If you need slightly more than a half-inch just add a quarter-inch. If you need slightly more than a quater-inch just round it off to a quarter-inch (what were you thinking?). If you need to add a tiny margin you just roughly eyeball it and call whatever the outcome is a sixteenth of an inch. That's all there is to it. Simple. I'm 145.669291 half-inches tall.
I use a metric adjustable wrench. Works like a charm!
😂 I don’t know how I haven’t heard of that one yet. Brilliant!
I learnt both systems as a kid and regularly switch between the two
6" x 100mm but I always use metric glue on my projects as it sticks better
LOL and things still don't fit!
I'll have to try that. I meant to talk about how much easier it is to vacuum metric sawdust but I forgot to add it to the video.
I'm here in Canada. I'm stuck with the vast majority of measuring devices including both sae and metric, so which one I use depends on which side of the tape measure I want to use.
Love this.
Steve Ramsey has a really good video about using metric
Lol I didn’t realize you were kidding until you pulled the paper-thin sheet from the planer
Very funny! When working with only inches they are both as accurate as your work skills.
But when you use paint and metal, or have to specify weight and volume of the finished product for shipping, or have to order large quantities of raw material, things start to change.
And when you have to create a building with all kinds of material, windows large enough for natural light but not too large to get a heat problem, you really get into trouble. Calculating the energy needed to heat and cool it, capacity of pipes and electricity, than you really would benefit from metric. And even a building isn't top technology usually.
In metric, one millilitre of water occupies one cubic centimetre, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade-which is 1 percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point.
I'll send you 20 bucks if you can calculate this in imperial bald eagles per hamburgers without a calculator.
not very useful for a carpenter to know how much energy to heat a cc of water one centigrade/Fahrenheit, so the point is kinda moot. but i get you
ince I "retired" from the Polisie service here in South Africa, I worked on a farm in Denver area....I just enjoyed everything of working in USA but only when it came to measure something....even after about 13 years I stil cant get my head around the imperial system
LOL, the next step is to learn military time. It's more precise than am/pm
Measuring a single distance works just fine with both systems.
But if you need to calculate what half of it is or divide it into 3 or 4 parts it gets complicated to do with Imperial fast.
You are hysterical...and amazing! Thanks for trying something new.😉
First i was like what? Then I saw what you did there. nice skit!
Love it.I am in Canada.Supposed to be metric but few people rigid with it. I have tapes with both and tend toward Imperial. I do believe the Metric is superior.But it is what you are comfortable with.
Took me all the way to the planter box to realize you're kidding! You're too good!😂
Love it! Thanks for the funny this morning 👍
In USA, tables, houses, cabinets, chairs, etc are made to standard dimensions. 24” x 18” table top at 30” high.. 16” on center studs.. 10’ x 12’ deck.. The list goes on... Nobody makes a table to be 29.528” (750 mm) tall.. It’s made to 30” tall. Literally everything is something standard. Therefore, it’s much easier for us to measure and make using standard, so it conforms to the norm. I imagine in other places, everything is standardized to the metric system, in which case using that scale is easier.
Hahaha thank you for this video! I have no problems getting accuracy with the imperial system. I've gotten used to 16ths. My wife said she was confused by the video but she isn't so immersed in the measurement war
Just tell your wife 15 16ths is longer than 24mm.
I have used both for years depending on what I am doing or the sizes that I am presented with. Converting using 25.4mm to the inch when necessary.
What's the midpoint of a board that is 19" 3/4? What is the midpoint of a board that is 512mm? (both numbers grabbed out of the air to be similar, but not an easy whole number for either)
Yeah, I'll stick to metric
Jolly Joker, got a smile from me early on and it didn't stop
I use "imperial" for ordering my beer here in Portugal. Works fine.
when I came to the USA 30 years ago, I was confused with the imperial measurement: inch, foot, yard, mile, etc...
metric is only meter. That's it!!!
you just divide per 10, per 100, or you multiply per 10, 100, etc...
And I was even confused per the piece of wood 4x4, 2x4, etc... who are not even 4x4...
And when you have to add 1"3/4 and 2" 1/5, almost nobody can do it without a piece of paper. If you have to add 1.5 and 2.3 mm, you don't need a calculator.
Metric is easy and accurate...
This guy as Covid of the brain 😂🤣🤣😂
Welcome to the world of Metric. The rest of the world might understand your measurements now.
It's been frustrating to buy American tools and converting things into metric.
ie: Bought De Walt drill bits but couldn't fit metric dowels in the holes.
About time we spoke the same language.
If you are finding that the metric system is more accurate, it is due to the precision of your measuring device and nothing else. Some find the decimal units to be easier to use, but any system can be expressed in decimal units.
I didn't really catch on until the planer part lol. That was great.
In Canada we use metric but on the jobsite we use both. To measure weight most ppl use lbs as well we use ft to measure hight but, for fine detail in construction we use metric, millimeters usually.
How easy is imperial:
1cubic foot = 7.48gal
1gal of water weighs= 8.34lb
How hard is metric: 1cubic centimeter= 1milliliter of water= 1 gram
Here in the UK we have been metric for many years, after a hard days work I still slip out for a pint though, and buying timber in metric is a real challenge, I started to ask for timber in metric sizes, then it dawned on me that the mills still appear to be turning out imperial sizes! Not to worry though, the metric router sash bit set I bought (made in Italy) I have realised is actually Imperial checking it out it appears to be identical to the American Infinity 55-801 set!!
You will be no more or less accurate than the tools that you use, and looking at the work you turn out I am shocked anyone has the gall to make such suggestions!
Keep up the sarcasm (very un-American) and keep making the videos - Love them!
LMAO! You made my day funniest thing I've seen all day.
inch = 25,4 mm next is foot= 304,8 mm next is yard= 914,4 mm
1 mm - 10 mm= 1 cm - 100 cm = 1mt then 1 mt = 1000mm
metric isn't better or more accurate but is more simple and easy to use
by almost all the world
You should try measurements in the UK as they are really interchangeable but not always in a good way. The amount of times I have heard ‘can I get 2”x4” in 4.8m lengths’ 🤨
Sheet material is cut at 8’ x 4’ but sold as 2440mm x 1220mm
We use imperial for road mileage (miles) and fuel consumption (mpg) but use metric at the petrol pumps (£ per litre)
Was given a measurement once i was told it is 4ft 2 1/2 inches and 2mm
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It does not make much different when you use metric or imperial for length. But wait until you do something that involve relation between pressure, volume, density, weight, torque, power, force and current.
Using imperial system to work with these units are like passing words between your wife and your mother. Using metrics is like passing word between your brothers.
I'm still having trouble measuring 9/16 of a centimeter, but my metric adjustable wrenches are fantastic....
Great ;-) Really great!
You know, I do promote the metric system, but I know that as long as you stay within one measuring system and do not stretch over orders of magnitude (like having to calculate something like 2 yards 1 foot + 4 feet 9 inches + 17 3/4 inches - 25 thou on a daily basis - metric has a clear advantage here), it doesn‘t really matter what system you use. As long as everybody knows what systems is used ;-)
Very Funny - Thanks for the good laugh.
That has to be the best explanation on why to move to metric than anything I have seen. Especially the thickness planer! 🤣🤣🤣
HILARIOUS ! but metric does appear to be more user friendly. Stupid fractions.
So you mean that it is more easy to convert based on decimal? 10 mm is 1 cm. 100 cm is 1 m. 1000 m is 1 km. 10 cm is 1 dm. 0,5 m is 50 cm is 500 mm. And so on...
Instead of 3/7 inch that is.. uhm... i have no idea. Need a calculator.
I now live in the US. It is a struggle to use imperial but it is because I suck with fractions! It's lot easier to do the measuring math in metric. In the beginning I would measure in imperial and by the time I got to the saw I would forget the measurement 😄
I changed about 30 years ago and I found that the most helpful thing of all was to find tapes and rulers etc that had METRIC ONLY on them, obliging me to think 100% in metric. The second helpful thing was to ignore centimetres, just use millimetres! So I will say 372 mm, rather than 37cm and 2 mm. Once I go above about one and a half metres I tend to say, one metre 550mm for example. At the other end of the scale, one inch is equal to 25.4mm, so one thousand of an inch is .0254mm (just shift the decimal point 3 places to the left.) Of course here in Ireland we have everything in metric now, so I'm not unusual anymore! Thanks for the video
Centimeters... no one here says like "37 cm and 2 mm" but instead just 37,2 cm (or 37.2 if you are into that habit - thirty-seven point/comma two). If you say it like that it is not that critical to be hundred precise. But 372 mm is very precise. The same in meter: 1,55 meter. Then it is not that fussy by the precision. Could be a mm or so either way. But if you say 1550 mm then it means exactly that.
And so it goes with dm and km. 1500 meter is very precise, down to the meter. 1,5 km could be like 100-200 meters either way.
Hey, all of my dovetails are metric. How good they are, is a difgrent thing all together.
But yes, both systems have some benefits over the other.
The Imperial system has no benefits over Metric.
@@DeeegerD Sure it does, there's no such thing as better at everything for anything. Like metric doesn't work as well with fractions or dealing with variables.
But, if you're really of that mind then I'm sure you'll want to adopt the metric time system too and give up telling time in those pesky hours, minutes, seconds, with 7 days weeks, months, etc.
I almost didn't watch this because I'm sick of this argument. But this was hilarious! Nice work!
This is the first video of yours that I have seen. You earned my subscription! Ha!
I am sure it is not a question of either system of measure being less accurate than the other. The issue is the metric system is far easier to use and understand. Metric allows for greater accuracy, a lot less confusion and a greatly reduces the margin for error.
I use both, I wouldn't use both on the same project but there are times where one has a benefit over another. Fun fact though the inch is actually defined by metric, when tape measure factories calibrate their instruments it is in metric and they convert to inches.
All the customary units are based on metric... Inch, foot, pound, ... Yes, everything! So, USA uses Metric, but converts it to some strange units that no one really understands.
There is zero situation in which imperial units have any real advantage.
😂 I was in school during the change over. It was a nightmare growing up but I did find it easier to use metric but visually imperial was easier in my head and I still say 4-2 and 8-4 and now and then mix up imperial and metric while measuring which drives people old and young mad 😂😂.
Welcome to the metric system, where the whole world has been, since at least the 1970s.
Cut this to 37% of 3 feet, 2 and 1/16th inches. I've given you a measurement that spans three different scales, one of them fractional.
The rule of thumb for estimating carpentry jobs is to add 10% to your estimate (largely to account for screw ups). Switching to metric might eliminate that.
Man, you had me getting a little disappointed after the intro... then the sarcasm kicked in and all was right with the world.... 🤣🤣📏📐 LOVE IT.
Good laugh from a metric user
I grew up in the UK (I'm in my 40's now) and was taught metric at school, but had to use imperial when helping my elders, including fractions of inches. Never bothered me as I was good at maths but I do remember being told by an older guy once to cut a lenth of wood 3 feet plus 5 millimeters. I did and it was the length he wanted but in hindsight it was silly. These days we still buy sheets of plasterboard called 6x3 (ft) that we know are really 1200x900 mm. And timber called 4x2 (Inch) and we know it will be 100x50 mm. Old habits die hard.
A colleague of mine of years gone by, who hailed from England and taught Latin, expressed his view on this very clearly: he argued that the Imperial system challenged one to think more and rely on memory and the understanding of relationship and ratios; whereas the metric system for all its ease of use, tended to make us lazier. I was fortunate to spend most of my primary school learning the Imperial system, and only then we switched over to the metric system. As a result, I have no problem following either system, and actually enjoy using the more challenging one now and then myself.
The funny thing is when I was a kid we used imperial, but around the end of primary school (11/12 years old) Australia changed to metric. Now 50 odd years later I still convert kilometres to miles in my head all to time to understand distance but use metric everywhere else.
Same.. Miles i understand another more. Yes I know 1k is 1000m but miles is easier for me. Metric on all other things though.
Born into the metirc system in Aus, I use metric for EVERYTHING. In fact, only use Millimetres, Metres, and Kilometres as measurements (not centimetres).
Use MPG for my fuel efficiency. And PSI for tyre pressure.
Older than you, so Imperial was more ingrained. I envisage measurements in feet and inches, so if I'm told that that something is 20 cm long, my mental process is 200 mm (cm is not a unit it the SI system), which is 8 inches which I can visualise. My tiny brain cannot see 20 cm.
@@jeffreythompson9549 My tiny brain is wired in metric. When I'm told something is 8 inches long, which occurs only in CZcams in my case, my mental process is 8 + 8 + 8:2 = 20 (cm) and that's the length I can visualize. Trying to actually visualize 8 inches results in a weird mental image of a tray containing 8 bleeding thumb fingers which I cannot realize as a length concept. Rather, as a few chicken wings before going into the pan. That's me 🤖
What do you use in the imperial system if you want to go less than an inch or fractions of an inch? Because I found hard to replace mm or cm
Fractions, especially in woodworking, you can easily go down to 1/64, more common to break it down to units of 12, just like inches into a foot... Otherwise, anything really small then everyone switches to metric, typically cm that you can just multiple 2.54 to get the equivalent in inches.
With imperial you just keep dividing in half for fractions of an inch. Just as you would with fractions of a mm. I think people get hung up on the fact that dividing a mm is the same as dividing anything in another system. It's quite literally just math, although the metric math is easier. Both systems can be broken down indefinitely.