How to Diagnose Ford Fusion & Escape 1.5L EcoBoost Misfire, Coolant Loss, or White Smoke TSB 20-2100
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- In this video I show you how to diagnose the coolant intrusion problem on the 1.5L Eco Boost that comes in the 2014-2019 fusions and 2017-2019 escapes. You will learn how to diagnose the common problem that has developed into TSB 20-2100. This problem will cause symptoms of a misfire, white smoke from exhaust, running rough, and overheating. This problem usually results in code p0301, p0302, p0303, p0304 but occasionally won’t set any codes.
Check out this video for more info on why the problem occurs and how to repair it.
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Good job Ford. Keep Making more FixOrRepairDaily or FoundOnRoadDead cars and trucks. Don't forget about Focus Transmission failure too.
Im planning on doing a focus video here pretty soon.
Nice job!
Appreciate it!
Thank you for this.
Is changing the engine the only way or is there an easier way to fix it, its difficult where we are at to get a replacement!
I own a 2017 2.0 fusion... tomorrow i am doing a coolant pressure test followed by a bore scope view a few hrs after. I was having p0303 pop up every day for a while. So far i changed all my plugs, swapped my coils around, cleaned my coil connectors with contact cleaner, used sea foam in the tank and used crc valve cleaner in the throttle body then took it for a drive on the high way after i let it heat soak for 45 mins. After all of this i have not had a code pop up in weeks and before the p0303 was popping up once a day. I also inspected the pink coolant as well as the synthetic oil itself...as well as di a cylinder compression test per cylinder. as well as used starting fluid on a cold start engine to spray down all vacuum lines and the intake manifold gasket areas mainly focusing on the cylinder 3 area to start with..... So next i will pressure test the coolant and if this comes back good then i will rule out a leaking head....
You covered all your basis lol just make sure you let that pressure tester sit on there for several hours before ruling out that you don’t have coolant intrusion. Sometimes it can be a very slow leak. Also if it does fail that test I hate to be the one to tell you but you will need to replace the long block to solve that.
@@FlyingWrenches13 yes I have done a lot of research. If it came down to it. Ford would charge me about 8,000 out of pocket for a new long block with all parts as well as 16.5 hrs of labor at 120 hr in Ford dollars with a full 3 year unlimited mile warranty I believe. But what they don’t tell you is that if you install a oil catch can system on it that it will void the warranty. I’m considering putting one on my 62,000 engine now. I’m glad you said let it stay on for several hours because that might of tricked me if I only do it for an hour. I hope it passes but I also look at it like this. The 8,000 vs a trade in for a new or newer car will just give me a bill a lot bigger than 8,000 and may come with a new host of TSB etc. I even weighed out the value of buying a low mileage fusion engine used to have thrown in vs just trying to get the head gasket replaced on mine if it is a coolant intrusion. I’ve done lots of head gaskets in the past but never on anything so new. Thank you for the intel. It’s appreciated more than you know! What I really should be looking into is keeping my eyes out for a used fusion updated long block engine from a car that gets T boned in the rear or side. Now that’s pretty much what my eagle eye will have a permanent eye out for in case a good deal pops up.
Well I will say I really like your thinking man. Sounds like you got it figured out. A catch can shouldn’t void your warranty but at the end of the day it’s really up to the dealer and what they want to do. Did they tell you it would void your warranty? It’s really dumb to void a warrant because of something that if anything is going to pro long the life of your engine.
How can you tell if you have the updated motor ?
White smoke, misfiring, coolant loss rough running, these are the symptoms of intrusion.
You can only have one of these things and be a direct correlation to the coolant intrusion
I do a lot of these motors, sometimes you don't get codes... sometimes you do
I just finished one and by the time I finished one I was on they had another one for me.... they are coming in like hotcakes
Nice to see other Ford Tech's actually speaking up about this
Yeah I don’t do them near that often but it seems like everyone has the problem at some point in time.
I have this issue am I screwed???
mine says engine coolant overtemperature no code loosing coolant
what do u suggest i do is it a recall ford will fix also when i press gas pedal its barely moving
@@clipsreloaded3347 if you're under warranty you're good. I bought mine with no warranty. Got a deal and now Ford's factory problem killed it
I have a new long block & my car don't do the white smoke no more but still have the leak in cylinder 2. Do I change the heads or injectors?
How can you tell if you have the updated block?
2 Years old but i hope ya got time to answer my question in regards to the cylinder order is it just 1234? 1,5l ecoboost fusion here
Hi Flying Wrenches my girlfriend has a 2019 Ford Escape SE Ecoboost and it started blowing White smoke out of the exhaust and we were told that it needed new Spark Plugs and a New Coil but it was losing coolant and we would fill it back up and it would just keep losing coolant
is there a typical cylinder this is seen on?
Most of the cylinders that I see the intrusion or most of the misfires is actually on 2 and 3
I have not had a one or a four yet but I'm sure I will
Agreed. For some reason it’s always 3 for me.
@@FlyingWrenches13 If we change the cylinder are we ok??
My daughter just had her 2.0L Ecoboost replaced under warranty on her 2017 Escape. The dealer did not mention anything about an updated block. Is there some wayt for us to verify that an updated block was put in and that she will not have this issue again in the future? We planned on keeping this vehicle a long time.
They only sell the updated engine. You can’t get the old style anymore.
I have a 2016 fusion w/ 2.0 ecoboost, it’s been to the dealership 3 times this month, keeps throwing a turbo over boost code, could this be the cause?
No you usually wouldn’t see a over boost code for this problem. Most likely something going on with the waste gate.
Question I have a 2018 Ford Fusion Se 1.5L EcoBoost. I am experiencing the P2 code, low coolant and check engine light blinking. Juddering when driving and blinking check engine light. I just had the spark plugs changed in Oct. 2023. If I change the spark plugs and drain coolant can I still drive it until I can pay this car off and get rid of it without replacing engine?
If you have a coolant consumption issue, check with Ford, as they are replacing some short blocks at no charge due to this failure. Some of them are out of the original warranty however STILL covered. SO ASK your dealership!
I just wandering about how many miles does this condition start or does it matter?
It varies. I’ve seen them start with as little as 20K miles and I’ve also seen them have 150K before they start.
I’m here because I have a 2017 fusion exoboost and have check engine light which says misfire cylinder 4, coolant loss, and no heat. I bought the car used in 2020. Like I said I just put all the pieces together today and am doing research on what to do next. I’m out of warranty and from what I’m seeing my only option is a new engine. Is that correct? Sorry if I’m wrong I’m really new in my research on this problem. But I came across your video and am almost 100% certain this is my problem. What should I do?
I believe I have the same problem
My mechanic said they are replacing the entire engine block to rectify the problem
If I'm looking for a reliable crossover similar to the ford escape size what would you recommend?
Are you looking to buy new?
No used I was looking at the escapes bc they had a lower price tag on newer used models and had lower mileage usually that's a good deal lol
Buy an escape with the 2.5 or a exploder with the 3.5 both are very dependable.
Needs an engine
Not head gasket?
Hi,
Do you know the engien code on these engiens with these fault??
I'm from Norway and I have a Ford Focus 1.5 182 hp with the engien code M9DB. I am wondering if this can have the same problem?
I don’t. What year model is it?
2017
I’m not super positive on non us vehicles but I think that is the same engine that has the issues.
Its gonna be a PO301 PO302 PO303 OR A PO304 each ending number represents what cylinder os misfiring and if its PO 300 that means its multiple at one time
I got a 2014 ford fusion se 1.5L ecoboost stated over heating and running bad diagnostic tool says mistfire cylinder 3 check cylinders no sign of leaks changed spark plugs and ignition coils running better get it up 90 miles per hour drive long time not getting hot
it's a 14mm spark plug
I have a 2014 ford escape and my coolant level gets low after several weeks smokes like a freight train on start up. Ford said It was my Turbo but I call Bshit. They have a recall on all these escapes and are having to replace the short blocks.
It is possible that it’s your turbo leaking coolant but 9 times out of 10 on these 1.5’s they need a short block.
What is the actual problem that it is requiring replacing the whole engine? Will a Headgasket fix it?
No sir. There is an issue with the block surface.
This just happened to me. I drive the car two days then the engine light came on.
Stalled at initial start up. Now the car won't start. Mechanic says it's my coil.
Am I screwed??? Someone please help
Edit.
This guy is super knowledgeable. Mines is cylinder 3 and I smelled coolant coming from my tail pipe. Please tell me if I'm screwed. [Sorry for hijacking the comments]
Your not screwed. Just going to have to put an engine in it to fix the issue. How many miles?
@@FlyingWrenches13 59k. I don't have 8,000 dollars man..I'm gonna be homeless I work nights and I need my wheels to go to work 😔😔😔
Life of the less fortunate
@@FlyingWrenches13 which engine? Please help
Does it happen on all of them or is it random
It eventually happens on all of them.
@@FlyingWrenches13 what about the 2.0l turbo engine
Same problem. I’m gonna make a video here pretty soon about the 2.0 ecoboost
@@FlyingWrenches13 thank you for the response
No problem! Hope it helped.
Can i try some silver seal in it
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