The Footman Helping Eloise Bridgerton

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  • čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
  • I couldn't help but notice the Footman that has been helping Eloise Bridgerton in finding Lady Whistledown, so I decided to make a video about it. Hopefully, I'm not alone in my curiosity. He is only in 4 episodes but that was enough to lead to the #hotfootman trend. I'm all for it. I cut out a lot of my discussion about fan theories so I will mention some of them here. One redditor suggested that creating a romantic relationship between Eloise and Footman John would be an interesting inversion of the Cinderella trope (Benedict has the Cinderella troupe in the books). Other redditors have speculated (or hoped maybe) that Footman John is the love interest for Benedict. Either way, it is awesome to see that a background character can garner a lot of attention. The actor, Oli Higginson, is very talented so he has the skill to play a bigger part if the showrunners decided to expand his character.
    I also cut out a lot of historical information about footmen in general and about pin money. Please let me know if I should exclude historical information. Finally, I apologize for my audio, I will invest in a microphone soon. I wanted to see first if I enjoy making videos. Turns out, I do, now I just have to fix the sound.
    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Footman's Background
    03:59 - What We Don't Know
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Komentáře • 59

  • @funkycrawler619
    @funkycrawler619 Před 10 měsíci +172

    I HOPE they put them together. Their chemistry, albeit brief, is great and I truly feel Eloise getting the class storyline makes more sense for her character than Benedict.

    • @PensiveWhiskers
      @PensiveWhiskers  Před 10 měsíci +40

      I was thinking the same thing; putting Eloise together with someone of a different class would be a very natural progression of her character arc. I agree with you on the chemistry. I think Oli Higginson has a lot of charisma on screen, those two can carry a lot of scenes.

  • @Rojisenarath
    @Rojisenarath Před 10 měsíci +154

    It would be very interesting to explore Footman John and Eloise's relationship, and them share their views in society.

  • @razhelfombelle
    @razhelfombelle Před 4 měsíci +98

    I don't ship them but I really like him as a friend for her. He almost feels like an older brother, but the kind that caves to all of his little sister's demands because he's just so fond of her. Of course, as a footman, he's supposed to obey her, but he's not supposed to obey orders from her that would be contrary to the will of the head of the family, and he shows that he knows that, yet he does what she asks. He could have lost his job for accompanying her to unproper places, so I don't think the pin money was the main reason he did it. I think he knew she would find a way to go even if he refused to take her, so he decided he'd rather be there to protect her if needed.
    Also, he seems older than Eloise and to have quite important duties (announcing the guests, guarding Eloise, etc) so I think he must have been there for quite a while, at least a few years, so he would've met Eloise when she was a teenager or maybe even younger, which I think would explain why he would want to protect her, be it physically or spiritually.

    • @PensiveWhiskers
      @PensiveWhiskers  Před 4 měsíci +10

      That's a good point. I think I sometimes forget that Eloise is 18 because the actress who plays her is much older. She is very young and he is supposed to be older than her.

  • @andrear4954
    @andrear4954 Před 3 měsíci +52

    As much as I ship her with Theo, I wouldn't complain if they put her with John instead 😅

    • @PensiveWhiskers
      @PensiveWhiskers  Před 3 měsíci +7

      Same, I liked Theo but I wouldn’t mind Footman John, I’d take either one. 🙂

    • @KKFilms-pq4xi
      @KKFilms-pq4xi Před 2 měsíci +5

      “Both. Both is good.” - words said no wiser from El Dorado

  • @Jullebulle1991
    @Jullebulle1991 Před 2 měsíci +16

    The only possibility for us to see what’s going on in the Server’s quarters, I think will happen In Benedict’s season. Because Sophie starts working in the Bridgerton household. So it would make sense to see her interact with the other servers in the Server quarters. And therefore we might even see footman John on his time off work. 😊

    • @PensiveWhiskers
      @PensiveWhiskers  Před 2 měsíci +5

      Yeah, I agree, ☝️ that’s the likely scenario. I hope they bring Footman John back for Sophie’s season.

  • @camilulaolguin
    @camilulaolguin Před 10 měsíci +90

    Maybe Footman John will be an important character when eloise and sir phillip's story get involved in the future two seasons. I'm just excited with that storyline since s1.

    • @PensiveWhiskers
      @PensiveWhiskers  Před 10 měsíci +16

      I hope so! I love seeing recurring small characters grow over time on shows.

  • @quz908
    @quz908 Před 10 měsíci +47

    #Footman John! His devotion puts me in the mind of Lady Danbury's handmaid Coral, although she was so much more. I do believe he has the potential.

    • @PensiveWhiskers
      @PensiveWhiskers  Před 10 měsíci +11

      Yes! I would also give an honorable mention to Rose, Daphne's maid, although a much smaller role.

    • @quz908
      @quz908 Před 10 měsíci +12

      @@PensiveWhiskers Absolutely! Rose is a real one. Hand making her own cosmetics, and ushering Daphne into the light about reproduction. You are so right!

  • @Olha_Koshil
    @Olha_Koshil Před měsícem +3

    I also liked the moment when he became too concerned about Eloise's safety, he was eager to give the pin money back and take her away

  • @srodriguez3720
    @srodriguez3720 Před 10 měsíci +30

    Hi, yes sooo… I get there is already book storyline canon and all that but I’d just like to throw out into the universe that I would love if Marina lives and Phillip remains married and therefore unavailable aaaaand…. I’d love for the relationship between Eloise and Footman John to blossom and become a beautiful romance and there’s so much that could make a dramatic compelling story there for them to have a happy ever after and.. all’s I’m saying is that I ship them SO HARD!
    Also, thank you for doing a video on Footman John and bringing awareness to his fabulous character.

    • @PensiveWhiskers
      @PensiveWhiskers  Před 10 měsíci +4

      Thank you for your comment! I ship them too but I'm trying not to get my hopes up. I was honestly surprised that no one made a video on him. I figured that if maybe there are enough fan videos on him, the writers will take notice. Who knows, maybe someone who has influence will see this and he will get a bigger part... crazier things have happened. Just a pipe dream. In either case, it's nice to know others who are on board with the idea!

    • @srodriguez3720
      @srodriguez3720 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@PensiveWhiskers Gah! I’m so happy you ship them too! They could be so happy together, in a little cottage somewhere, she’s a writer, he’s a farmer or something… I dunno, we don’t know him, we don’t know his dreams, all the possibilities!
      Maybe someday there will be great fanfic or something, lol. Whatever happens, Eloise is my absolute favorite character and I just hope they do right by her.

    • @theodoesthings
      @theodoesthings Před 2 měsíci

      i really hope the writers don't shy away from altering the canon drastically!! i think it would be so much more interesting (and also in character) for them to run away with the characters as we know them from the show rather than to stick too strongly to the source material. obviously the books have a lot of die hard fans so it would be very contraversial if they changed it up massively but i'm still hoping they do !!

  • @PhoebeClothier
    @PhoebeClothier Před 9 měsíci +35

    He may have a significant role when Eloise runs off to meet Phillip and while we may not get a servant-pov insight in her season, since her true love match is a titled gentleman, Benedict’s season could give us that. His love match, while noble-born, is an earl’s illegitimate daughter relegated to the serving class (cue Cinderella story). Benedict’s book is probably my least favourite purely due to Benedict being an ass but the improvements to his character in the show could turn it around. And the class narratives between Benedict and Sophie could showcase the working class more

    • @PensiveWhiskers
      @PensiveWhiskers  Před 9 měsíci +2

      You're so right. It's very likely that we are going to get the working class perspective in Benedict's book. I don't know why but I would really love to get that point of view showcased on the show.

  • @Aphasialady-wt3kl
    @Aphasialady-wt3kl Před 10 měsíci +30

    He looks a great deal like Theo Sharpe to me.

    • @PensiveWhiskers
      @PensiveWhiskers  Před 10 měsíci +10

      You're not alone! There were so many people on Reddit who thought the same thing. I never noticed it until other people mentioned it.

  • @gabrielleduplessis7388
    @gabrielleduplessis7388 Před 10 měsíci +72

    Forget phillip and theo, you are making me ship her and foot man john even when I originally and still do want her to be a gay character.

    • @PensiveWhiskers
      @PensiveWhiskers  Před 10 měsíci +11

      Could we settle on her being bi? 🙂

    • @gabrielleduplessis7388
      @gabrielleduplessis7388 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@PensiveWhiskers i can easily be fine with that.

    • @fay9321
      @fay9321 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Honestly, the Bridgerton siblings are bi for me, all of them🤣

    • @nelonwa7754
      @nelonwa7754 Před 3 měsíci +2

      The thing is, for Eloise to exist in this story and era she cant be gay cuz she wint find happiness or at least be satisfied.
      In their society women cant even work sobif E was gay and her abd her lover decided to run they wouod have no means. And even though El would want to rhinknof herself as capable she6very much a white woman feminist. Shes never had to worry or be concerned cuz she has brothers who would take care if her if she never married.
      Its one thing to pretend that black ppl and other races were recognised then. Its another to make sure the stoey is believable. So shell have to end up with a man

  • @ave_rie
    @ave_rie Před 2 měsíci +8

    I wouldn’t mind a friendlier/equal-ish version of the Brimsley-Queen sort of dynamic between John and Eloise. A romantic one might feel strange to me because idk anything about the books tho. John feels weird being a romantic interest but is very believable as an older brother/younger uncle figure depending on their age gap & John’s work history with the Bridgertons

  • @saturday8587
    @saturday8587 Před 4 měsíci +35

    I think footman John and eloise being friends would be great for her character development. He clearly knows her better and would be great wingman for EloiseXTheo ship. Plus I don't think Eloise will end up with Sir Philip because the ship sucks and it's kind of out of character for Eloise. I just really want Theo and Eloise to be the endgame.

    • @PensiveWhiskers
      @PensiveWhiskers  Před 4 měsíci +3

      He would be a great wingman 😄. I am curious what they will do with Eloise as incorporating Philip will be strange.

    • @nelonwa7754
      @nelonwa7754 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Right? I just don't see her being a stepmom

    • @saturday8587
      @saturday8587 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@nelonwa7754 Maria in the books is a cousin of bridgeton not featherington so her sending condolences to Phillip would be strange and weird.

    • @theodoesthings
      @theodoesthings Před 2 měsíci

      i really hope the show writers don't shy away from altering the source material in the future!! as someone who hasn't read the books i just want the best for the characters and so i wan't eloise and theo to be endgame!! I hope the writers aren't too scared to change something so big about the plot because it makes more sense for the character. I am also ALWAYS a huge fan of a working class perspective in period dramas so the more working class characters the better!! i think benedict and eloise are very similar in being a lot more politically conscious and down to earth than many of the characters in their social circle so it would make sense for them both to end up with working class love interests. Although maybe now that eloise's season will be following benedicts their storyline's would be too similar and it would take a lot of the weight off of Eloise's defiance if benedict has done the same thing in the previous season. as i say i've not read the books so i actually have no idea what happens to either of them aside from who they end up with lol

    • @saturday8587
      @saturday8587 Před 2 měsíci

      @@theodoesthings oh Benedict ends up with Sofie who is from working class. Also Phillip is just a really shitty guy in the books ngl. He is a neglecting parent also he kind of rapes Maria and he wants Eloise to be quite and just do ykw with him. He also tricked Eloise to be a stepmom to kids who are absolute menace (which is not their fault the do it because want their father's attention)

  • @yourfriendlydoormat
    @yourfriendlydoormat Před 10 měsíci +14

    How do u not have more subscribers? The quality of this video is amazing!

    • @PensiveWhiskers
      @PensiveWhiskers  Před 10 měsíci +3

      Oh my gosh thank you! You are a kind, kind soul. I feel like I have a long way to go, but I am actively working on improving. I hope people feel comfortable giving me criticism and suggestions for improvement in the comments.

  • @BeckytaSU
    @BeckytaSU Před 3 měsíci +6

    I think ir wouldn't work as a long term relationship. But was something to explore a little, yes

  • @victoryv116
    @victoryv116 Před 2 měsíci +4

    They have very strong chemistry and he is very handsome

  • @samesam8017
    @samesam8017 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I hope for Benedict’s season with Sophie working as a maid we see her PoV and then allowing us to see the footmans as well

  • @anevildoer9252
    @anevildoer9252 Před 4 měsíci +13

    I'm not gonna lie, this video made me genuinely start shipping Eloise and Footman John now, like *a lot* 😅

  • @percyweasley9301
    @percyweasley9301 Před měsícem +2

    Well done on this video.. So many things to think about.. 🤔

    • @PensiveWhiskers
      @PensiveWhiskers  Před měsícem

      Thank you! :) It was fun to be a little out of the box with this one.

  • @j.jadams5477
    @j.jadams5477 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Itd be interesting to see eloise have a crush on john and learning more about servants and remembering they have whole lives like when she went through the housekeepers things and got scolded by her 😂
    im imagining a scene of like a normal bridgerton dinner, maybe with guests, and Eloise just so happens to make eye contact with John. They smile and she looks away but then gradually she becomes more self conscious/aware that she and her family are casually having dinner while surrounded by servants just standing there like 🧍🧍🧍🧍 😂 just, more of class concious Eloise please shes so great
    id also love to hear how john sees the bridgertons, i imagine he's quite amused fond and proud to be their footman despite everything. I wonder if hes friends with the featheringtons footman? Or has history with the Cowpers maid? So much potential lol
    If they did end up together maybe Eloise would become a governess for Marina's kids, or work as a tutor or a writer? Honestly i think that show!Eloise might consider that a more agreeable life for herself than becoming the lady of a household

    • @j.jadams5477
      @j.jadams5477 Před 2 měsíci +1

      And what would her family say? what would the TON say? Gasp! A SCANDAL!! 😱

    • @j.jadams5477
      @j.jadams5477 Před 2 měsíci +1

      If he's kinda like a bodyguard so you could probably write in a really really good night out/mugging/rescue situation, John fully kicks a thief's butt or something and Eloise sees him bruised and bloody but still looking out for her and maybe that poofy lil wig fell off and she's left all 😳🥵
      And then Anthony finds out Eloise caught feelings and immediately fires John 💀 Kate makes him take it back but it's Really Awkward in the Bridgerton household for a bit 😂

    • @PensiveWhiskers
      @PensiveWhiskers  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Omg, you need to start writing fanfiction! I love all of your ideas here!

  • @meowmeow669
    @meowmeow669 Před 2 měsíci +1

    wow these videos are great.

  • @stahppls2293
    @stahppls2293 Před 2 měsíci

    It's giving Lady Sybil and Tom Branson 💛✨

  • @susanblue3981
    @susanblue3981 Před 10 měsíci

    Yes, I too
    😊

  • @nidoquienn
    @nidoquienn Před 2 měsíci +1

    Footman John does give off bi wife energy 🤔 we love a princess x knight pairing i hope they explore this arc in the future

  • @fischermanuela6850
    @fischermanuela6850 Před 2 měsíci

    Uuuhhh the Footman John 🎉😊

  • @Sof12
    @Sof12 Před 2 měsíci

    Mkay, mkay... I ship it now

  • @anaestevesbrandao3332
    @anaestevesbrandao3332 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I kinda ship themmmmmmmm.

  • @shannonbullock807
    @shannonbullock807 Před 2 měsíci

    Why does he lowkey look like Theo lol

  • @lomlom27
    @lomlom27 Před měsícem +1

    What’s with the obsession with this small inconsequential person?