Piccolo: The Humiliated Character | The Anatomy of Anime
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Piccolo has had some recent spotlight in the Dragon Ball Heroes and... Dragon Ball Super Broly to a lesser extent. Today in the Anatomy of Anime we are discussing the story of Piccolo from Dragon Ball all the way through Dragon Ball Super.
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At least Piccolo did something that Vegeta never achieved: he killed Goku.
I wonder, would that have still happened had Goku not offered his life like he did?
@@mikeexits Win's a win. For that matter so was Tien's. All those fun villains from back when the stakes were low enough Goku was sometimes allowed to eat shit, and paradoxically real tension existed.
hockeater Vegeta had many times to chill Goku, he just wanted to have a true saiyan fight and kill him in battle
@@mikeexits yes. Piccolo outclassed goku at the time. And his charged attack... That wasn't a skill for battle... That was a skill for assassination. If things had followed piccolo would have murdered goku without leaving him a chance to even fight. The saiyans kinda saved the earth from piccolo's tyranny ...
Finja que tem um nome aqui Vegeta still had 2 wins on Goku in Z. I’d take it.
And to this day, Piccolo and Vegeta still have never fought
I know, right? So weird!
Vegeta shit stomps in every aspect.
Vegeta: "Wait that's weird. Isnt that weird, black man?"
Mr PoPo:"Almost as weird as what's gonna happen if you call me that again"
Vegeta: "What IS he?"
@@jacobpohlabel4156 a question i still want answered
@@apassionatenerd.3564 He is the nigga omega
Piccolo has legit acknowledged that he's just a warm up for villains and that's something I'll never forgive Toriyama for.
Warmup for the villains, before Vegeta jobs for them so Goku can take them out.
czcams.com/video/HvFisOGUClY/video.html....
It's like Toryama's way of saying "I'm done with him."
I love to call Super soulless, but I still cannot believe this happened in Z. What the fuck.
as it should be
He is literally Dragon ball's equivilent of JL's Martian Manhunter, a cool ass endearing character and my favorite who can't catch a break in being depicted any stronger than he is because he ain't the main character or his rival anymore.
Manhunter is lame as hell too just like piccolo
His back story on JL was pretty good tho.
Also hes green
Well yes, but martian manhunter is still depicted to be stronger than superman, plus I'd say piccolo is more like batman
@@stephenquinn7931 Not really, for every MH that can take on Supes, there is a superman stronger than MH. Worse case scenario even weaker Supes just takes a five second sun dip and blitzes him like SSJ2 Gohan did to the Cell Jrs.
MH is generally depicted behind Superman(Goku), Wonder Woman(Vegeta) and Flash(Gohan) in terms of power. If anyone's Batman it'd be Krillin since he's all tech and no strength.
I said it before and I will always say it again! Piccolo deserved so much better.
Thank you Obi-Wan
Hello there
He coulda been our only hope! But nope
Obi-Wan Kenobi the high ground has spoken
Many characters did.
from antagonist
to sideman
to yamcha
that's just cold
Kingneo hey Yamcha also went from antagonist to ... well Yamcha
They were main characters after antagonist but Yamaha went straight to yamcha
BRO THAT WAS SO PETTY I CANT STOP LAUGHING DAMN 😭😂
it's sad to think that the present Yamcha could be worse than a "yamcha".
To Saibamen Victim.
Piccolo: Do you know who would love to come back?
Trunks: Gohan ?
Tien: Gohan ?
Krillin: Gohan ?
Vegeta: The Kakarot's brat ?
Piccolo: MEEEEEEE !
He had a small comeback by beating Ultimate Gohan, but he instantly lost all credibilities when a bug eliminated him from the T.O.P
@@bachhongoc6461That elimination was stupid I'm not upset he was eliminated I'm upset he had such a humiliating elimination
@@craigpeoples9883 Still better than Tien's elimination...
@@InfernosReaperNah Piccolo's was worst
@@craigpeoples9883 Worse than Tien doing a suicide run with his *real* body against someone instead of using a double?
Piccolo always has been and always will be my favorite character, I stopped being as invested as soon as he left the spotlight
Honestly
@@apureintellectual1959 piccolo's redemption through gohan is so sweet....like bro...
Considering how powerful piccolo was after merging with Kami, and getting ways stronger in the hyperbolic time chamber, he definitely has been screwed over in dragon ball super.
Jason Lauritsen buu saga
There was the potential for Piccolo to get a )V(ajin Buff, but they didn't capitalize on that.
@@Deathmare235 Super Buu.
That started to happen in late Android/Cell Saga, and further into the Buu Saga, bro, it's not an exclusively Super thing...
@@guilhermevianabarbosa803 I agree. The damage on his character was already done by then. Super just refused to do anything to fix it (as well as other beloved characters who suffered the same fate such as Gohan)..
The best character turned into a minor ally. Piccolo deserved better
MUCH MORE
Most of the characters deserved better
@@cantsleep7760, that's shonen for ya, make amazing characters for the audience to fall in love with and then the hero beats them ,they're forgotten by their authors and from all That made them great characters they become a glorified background and exposition.
all because the main character had to get stronger, because that's the whole point in most shonen isnt it?
Have your main character be the strongest by the end for the story and call it a day...well,until you Want to make more, then start from the beggining and do it All Over again.
and that kids, is how you end up with super.
Idk super namikan?
One piece is the opposite of DB. No one is forgotten and nearly everyone has a,part to play in the story. This is why I think OP is better than current DB.
Piccolo is the smartest of the group, he should have a strategist role, and should merge with shen-long, and on that note, yamcha should be the trickster. Best way to make all these character relevent again, is to make an anti-saiyan race and fighting style, something malleable like Hamon from Jojo. Gohan would also be benefited as he would be able to use both styles
+Spandan Dasgupta
I agree with Piccolo, but if Piccolo would remained side stepped, I would have hoped a non-ultimate Gohan would have taken that roll, by being schooled by the strategist fighter himself, with some real life experiences to give some interesting twists in his fighting style. Nobody ever combined the martial arts of (real) Chi with some real scientific principles in DB so far. To bad super couldn't do anything else than bring back plot-device-strong Gohan.
I don't agree with your solution for Yamcha though, while Yamcha was always a good kid at hearth, and it remained unclear (so far I know) where he learned his Wolf Fang Fist, I wouldn't really call him inventive. Not at all on the level kid and teen Goku where. Come on, Goku was able to out trick a seasoned fighter like Jackie Chun, and might even be able to out-trick his own Master Roshi if ever pitted against him.
@@Tuning3434I agree dude, Gohan had such potential, even in his SaiyanMan phase. That could have been an arc of Gohan taking the position of champion of humanity from Satan. I know Goku was smart and innovative in the start, but he grew dumber, Yamcha was supposed to be the Han Solo character(atleast that's what I thought during the original Dragon Ball) so for Z, he should go back to his bandit ways and use cheap tricks in fight, like use camo, or throw dirt and such. It would have been a contrast to the honour horny saiyans. On that note, Bulma should already have made weapons which work on saiyans or freeza and such, considering especially that they get attacked by such things on a constant basis
@Ariston Garza I don't know, I would say the Tien vs. Teen Goku fight in DBs 23rd Tenka-Ichi Budoukai Saga more than proved how much multi-form and extra limbs are more a gimmick than a real power multiplier.
I don't agree Tri-beam is an instant attack, it certainly wasn't in DB: Goku was caught mid-air before having learned flight, and the 2nd try he let it happen just to rub it into Tien's mind that Goku would be the superior fighter this time around.
If I remember the Saiyan saga correctly it caught Nappa off-guard, and I think it was the same for Cell. I don't know how and why Tri-beam was that effective against Cell, but both Goku and Nappa had no real problems at all to just take it. In the end, Tri-beam (again) almost killed Tien, while it still was only an inconvenience for Semi-perfect Cell, effectively countered by Cell by just waiting out till Tien would have killed himself (for the 2nd time).
That's why I wasn't bothered by the absurd power boosts random old characters got, at least not on a base level. I WANT old characters to be relevant, and I absolutely despite the power creeping and artificial nonsense that is power scaling in dragon ball, so I want characters to become relevant again even if they're not that strong (in terms of artificial numbers) by being smarter and coming up with interesting ways to fight. Super completely fucked everything by just giving everyone higher numbers for no reason rather than have them find ways to be useful outside of that, but I did at least enjoy seeing Roshi being useful again for once, and Piccollo performing somewhat decently for someone whose power level got creeped this bad.
@Ariston Garza imagine if he had the Kaioken and Ultimate as These what ifs tend to give to him
Irony: Even during this exposition of piccolo’s humiliation and character degradation, he still gets overshadowed by vegeta. C’mon now, that’s just not right lol
I just noticed 💀😭
Too fuckin bad 😉
Fun Guns typical saiyan fanboy.
Even in his analysis video, it’s painfully obvious that Vegeta is better in terms of storytelling
Mr Lakiro At least piccolo’s character development wasn’t fucking diverted. This is why I never take vegeta fans seriously. His character just did a 180 and threw away all that development. It’s legit why I think piccolo has better character development than vegeta.
Humilated or not
Him driving cars was always the best moments with him
Picollo: "DODGE b*tch! get out the way!🎶"
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@@guntherdoesaliltrolling5757 hahaha best contribution in this whole comment section
Nahh
If Android 17 can make a huge comeback, Piccolo can as well.
Agreed.
@Alex Mercer But 17 and Piccolo can get along. As well as Piccolo could be Gohan's Vegeta in a way. More amicable and with respect. But helping each other get strong.
@@DSan-kl2yc nah, i preffer a rivalry between 17 and Piccolo
@Alex Mercer yeah. I think they should have kept gohan as a superhero. 17 seems to have gotten to keep his sense of humour. Maybe it switched to be more quiet and sardonic but he still has that going for him.
@Alex Mercer that reminds that piccolo did try to save 17. He understood Cell was the bigger threat. And took some serious damage trying to protect him.
Piccolo even mentions it himself in the manga: "So this is what I've been reduced to..."
I mean, one of the most glaring moments for me in Z is how Piccolo, after fusing with Kami, was supposed to be /the strongest being in the universe/, only to be almost immediately outclassed.
I want the fact that Piccolo can hear Nail and Kami in his head to become canon so bad
It's way more interesting than what happened in the actual story
It can't, however. Nail outright stated that he would give his life and just surrender his power to Piccolo. Nail is dead, it's just that his power and memory remain with Piccolo. As for God, when he fused with Piccolo, it was much the same deal.
DraculaCronqvist isn’t the nail part somewhat already cannon because around the time when piccolo fought frieza he spoke to frieza in nail’s voice
@@lunattt4274 Yes, but that was Piccolo accessing Nail's memories and voice. It wasn't really Nail speaking himself - although there are hints here and there that maybe, Nail is still somehow there, though not in any way as presented in the Abridged show.
Nail Gun!
Piccolo became the one thing Goku could never be.
Gohan's dad.
Goddamnitiwantaname he’s more like an uncle
And this video clearly explains the price for that is his role in the series being degraded because of that one belief.
Well for a joke I think this is fine, but in native perspective Piccolo is Gohan's teacher. It's more like how Jiraya took Naruto under him and treated him as his grandkids. Similarly Piccolo took Gohan and treated him as a son. But that doesn't mean Goku hadn't done his job as a parent. A parent's job is to make their offsprings independent. That was clearly shown when Goku wanted Gohan to take his role as Earth's defender. Of course Goku did leave him for many years but most army men do that too. They have to be on duty for 6-8 months usually and during wartimes more than a year. But becoz of the hardships that experience lead their child a more successful life.
For fuck's sake, will this long worn out meme ever die? It's not even funny anymore. It's just sad. Just stop. Is it just me?
@@rhondahoward8025 Unfortunately, some people end up taking this meme as an actual fact.
My boy Piccolo has always been my favorite dude. A spooky guy born evil who slowly turns good, even sacrificing himself for his nemesis’s son. It was my first time seeing a character develop like that. Big Green deserves better.
I hope that when Super returns, Piccolo will have more screen-time and more action. Even though I love seeing him acting almost like an uncle for pan, I miss the good ol’ days when he did more important fighting.
From what I’ve heard he’s irrelevant in the moro arc. Haven’t read it yet so that’s hearsay 🤷🏻♂️
@@nickoliver3523 no actually. This is the only arc where piccolo has the most time in Super comparitively. He's also stronger than A17 and 18
@@nickoliver3523 Oh he's as relevant as krillin and tien
@@nickoliver3523 in the Moro arc, he actually gets more time for his character to develop and gets stronger
@@dekaritheprofessor2631 How he is as relevant as tien and krillin when he literally had the most screen time after goku and vegeta? He got to fight the strongest guys and also the main villian him self. Him and gohan were like batman and robin and he have gotten now at ss3 level while gohan at ssb stop spreading bs. You sound like a hater what did vegeta do more them him? Yeah he got a better fight against moro but as allways he got his ass whooped not too long after and goku ended claiming the hero title.
Piccolo: *trains and fights for 7+ years*
*Loses to frieza henchman*
Android 17: *Does nothing since Cell saga*
*comparable to ssj blue Goku*
Master Roshi: *Does nothing since before Gohan was even born*
*Can keep up with Jiren*
The master roshi part is not canon Dw
@@smileyent.3055 according to Toriyama, everything is canon but it's set in alternate timelines
Dragon Ball super isn't canon for me, because it doesn't make sense at all. Piccolo was stronger than a SSJ 1 he should have no problem to kill all henchman of frieze in an instant
@DarkEternal6 Dragonball Super was Fun and Pain
@@maroda8094 Same here. For me, Dragon ball ends at the Buu Saga.
One of the main reasons I love Abridged is their treatment of Piccolo. Nail and Kami in his head is fantastic and it makes sense.
I have to think if they had dragon ball abridged, Piccolo would be a new Mazoku being with Piccolo Daimao in his head. I think that’s basically what Daimao did. Fused with his offspring as the base as he was pushing the egg out. That’s why Ma Jr is him but is stronger and why Kami didn’t die the moment Daimao blew up with a gaping hole in him.
Nail getting all this screentime lmao
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I find your analysis very well-thought and accurate. Specially, when you mentioned how Piccolo was an stoic antihero while Vegeta, as a brash one, was much more charismatic. That made me think that during the Tenkaichi tournament, Piccolo actually WAS like that! He boasted and defied and laughed in his foes' faces. Even during the beginning of the Saiyan saga, specially against Raditz, he was like that.
Then Gohan appeared, and he learned to care, but couldn't express such feelings, and became more and more stoic. Also, at that moment he started being more strategical, as you mentioned, which makes sense as he now would have to fight taking Gohan into account.
Now I kinda want to write a Piccolo fanfic...
Do it.
In my opinion he should somehow be an antagonist again
Did you do it yet?
@@tanuki2898 Afraid not...
@ Dammit... That's fine, I'm writing my own, lol!
As someone who doesn't usually watch the sub, i REALLY appreciate piccolo's japanese VA. He just sounds so sadistic it's brilliant.
_What car does Piccolo drive?_
A *DOOOODGE*
Uhuhuuuuu
I think you just won the comment section lol
@@philipomoregbe7075 sweet
This is one of the best jokes I’ve ever read. 😁
XD Easily two of the best commercials ever, lol!
With the exception of Goku, Vegeta, and perhaps Future Trunks, every other main character has lost their importance.
Not just Piccolo, but Gohan, little Trunks & Goten, and Boo have all gone the way of Yamcha and Tenshinhan.
In other words, Piccolo and the others have all been Yamcha'd.
Trunks and Goten contributed to characters like Yamcha, Tenshinhan, and Chiaotzu losing their relevance. They're not victims. They're part of the problem too. A problem that started in Z and has just gotten worse in Super.
@@Renagade2332 Yeah, that is true. Though I believe that's been happening since the beginning of Dragon Ball. Toriyama will keep using a character for as long as they're useful to their roles in the story, until he creates a new character to take over that role. E.g. Tenshinhan was the first serious member of the team, until he was replaced by Piccolo. And then Piccolo was gradually replaced by Vegeta as the serious fighter. It seems to be Toriyama's style to usually create new characters to fill the roles instead of fleshing out old characters.
@@beauferret5414 I have read somethere, that toriyama had a different DBZ in mind at the beginning and that he had to change somethings because the fans wouldn't like it.. so his first thought where, that Son Goku should have stayed dead and that Son Gohan would become the main protagonist, but because Son Goku was a fan favorite, they couldn't let him stay dead
I'd say right now only Son Goku, Whis, and King Zen really matter. None of the other angels except for the archangel know half as much as Whis when it comes to MUI and King Zen basically dictates the story. The bad guys don't really matter because Son Goku by design will always overcome them ever since Toriyama decided to not have Son Gohan take over as protag.
I don't know what a Yamcha is, but it sounds disappointing
Piccolo and Gohan: The shattered arcs of a master and student... once completed and now tossed out the window due to not knowing how to continue their characters
I'm impressed that Piccolo managed to stay relevant until about half way through the Android/Cell saga but if he weren't Akira Toriyamas favorite character I imagine he would have faded into obscurity long before then. I doubt he would have even fought Frieza on Namek
Goku was toriyama's favorite character until recently where he liked piccolo a lot more and hencen why the superhero movie was even made
Sees thumbnail. Thinks of this scene from TFS DBZ Kai episode 3.
Piccolo: You know who could use some character development?
Trunks: Gohan.
Tien: Gohan.
Krillin: Gohan.
Vegeta: Kakarot's brat.
Piccolo: MEEEEEEEEEE! *Flies away.
Piccolo: kami we need to fuse also we're gonna kill some teenagers
Popo: I did drugs this scene
Kami: you had me with killing teenagers
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH
Piccolo: im THREE guys now
Kami and nail: sup
Kami:will this joke get old
Piccolo:nah, its not ghost nappa
" *Smash Mouth - All Star whistling intensifies* "
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Piccolo: ARRHH He's SO POWERFUL!
When powerlevels began breaking scouters, Piccolo replaced them to communicate measure of power.
@DarkEternal6 or just stands there freaking out...
1970: I wonder what amazing things will a massive network of computers bring to mankind
2020: the anatomy of piccolo
Well he got the respect he deserved in the new movie. Dude looks like a chad now
Akira Toriyama: "PiCcOlO Is My FaVoRiTe ChArAcTeR!"
**writes him off as a side character**
Toriyama's favorite character changes. At one point, it was Goku. At another point, it was Piccolo. And at a third point, it was Mr. Satan.
Flaming Flammenwerfer Toriyama did also say that even though Piccolo is his favorite character, he admitted he doesn’t know what to do with him... rip
Just because he is a side character doesn't make him a bad character. His characteristics and contributions to the Z fighters team are something that could never be replaced.
Literally suffered the Yamcha/Tien treatment
See, that's what I'm talking about. Sure, anyone who just watched this video might think Piccolo is the new Yamcha. But if anyone wtched the series and analyzed the character, they would know that's far from true.
Piccolo should've beaten Frost. he had more than enough power and battle experience.
Instead he cucked to Vegeta and that is what Super as a whole did, even at the expense of other characters and created plot-holes.
And he's supposed to be immune to poison.
@@MrRapp-yz4hu YES, what the fuck happened with that?
@@Violent_Wolfen toriyama has bad memory, he has more than once forgetten characters and their abilities, so I'm pretty sure, he forgot that Piccolo is immune
Maro Da cough launch cough
What happened to Piccolo?
1 word: Vegeta
Even in the movies prior to the Saiyans arrival, Piccolo was the one collecting the most bodies, while Goku handled the main antagonist. And look whose taken his place
It is so unfair. I always thought Piccolo was the coolest edgy dude. It is such a shame he got replaced by Vegeta. And worst part is Vegeta fans want Vegeta to outshine Goku
@@subwaysurfer5378 ngl, even I want Vegeta to outshine Goku, especially now with the UI nonsense they're throwing at us and after he got robbed of his vengeance in ResF/ResFSaga.
@@53Spawn I don't want Vegeta to outshine Goku. Vegeta is an annoying whiny brat
But the funny thing was that piccolo surpassed Vegeta like twice in Dragonball Z. In the Frieza Saga and the Android/Cell saga. Remember at one point before he fused with kami, he was as strong as super saiyan and then after he fused with kami, he was stronger than the rest of the saiyans minus Gohan. Vegeta’s development in character is still questionable even though yes he did sacrifice himself just so he can save the others but like there wasn’t a specific moment where all the events lead up to him changing and become a good guy as compared to piccolo. Piccolo’ character development and arc was fulfilled with him not following the path of his father King Piccolo and fighting for what’s right. At the end of the day, piccolo deserves way better and has done more in the Dragonball series than Vegeta has
What makes Vegeta so special is that he helps Goku connect more closer to his race with a sense of curiosity and pride. Vegeta is also kinda like a family member to Goku in that they are the last genetic reminders of their kind.
Piccolo: You know who could use some character development?
Krillin: Gohan
Tien: Gohan
Vegeta: Kakarot's brat
Piccolo: MEEEEEE!!!!
Hellzone Grenade will always be my favorite attack scene
"Are you even trying to aim at me?"
"NO!!!"
Too bad Piccolo stopped making new techniques
Oh... Ooooh... Ohhhh... Shit.
@@OmegaZeroX28 Surely you mean Taco Tuesday
What the hell you mean "NO?"
Spotted the kids who skipped Dragonball.
“Piccolo has gone down to antagonist to side man to yamcha”
Me: *gasp!*
NO NO NO don't ever say that NO ONE IS A yamcha!!!!!
Literally everyone is a yamcha in super except the saiyans
@@shadowfruit8232 Bruh at least most them have a shining moment in the series but Yamcha......................well you know.
@@shadowfruit8232 Hum hum, excuse you, Professor Gohan has something to say about that...
The quote that broke my heart
Piccolo will always be a fan favorite. We'll always want more of him. Toriyama doesn't necessarily have to give him a B.S. power boost. He just needs more for the side cast to do that holds weight or shows development.
Well, he got his B.S. power boost now and I'm glad he did. 😂
"Is it over yet?
"Only when the fish jumps"
*bloop"
"Yep."
Grumpy demon papa slug man will always be my favorite character
Piccolo a demon menace
Piccolo in super
Don't worry pan I'll take care of you
Piccolo has been a daddy figure ever since the Cell Sega and arguably the Saiyan Sega tbh.
Allie Leon Yeah, but he wasn’t changing diapers. 😂😂😂 Not to mention he was up there in terms of power compared to the Saiyans...
@@peanutmurgler Piccolo became irrelevant at the beginning of the Cell saga, it's a shame since training seems not to get Piccolo any stronger. I'm always waiting for another Namekian for him to fuse with and have him to become relevant again.
Oh shit wassup vro
Z ruined him first
No character has been humiliated and disgraced more than Gohan.
Yamcha*
Lost his girlfriend to one of the mans that Were responsible for his death,And even didnt entered the Tournament of Power while Roshi,That cant even fly due to spite did it
@@chriswentz5197 no one cared for him after his first fight with goku
@@chriswentz5197 Even sadder, by the end of Z when Chi-Chi and Bulma joked about switching Goku and Vegeta as their husbands, Yamcha was still unmarried I’m pretty sure, and he (jokingly, I don’t know if he was serious) said that he was an option for the 2 women as well, which both Bulma and Chi-Chi rejected
Dude was in his mid to late 40s and was still hanging around a bunch of married couples with kids when he himself was still single after 20 years! That’s the saddest shit ever
Remained a weak, dumb, idiotic humiliated character by the end of Z and couldn’t even pull some bitches to compensate at the very least, still unmarried in his 40s!
@@an18yearoldmongolianguy i mean idk how hes still single yamcha can definitely pull girls so i think toriyama just doesnt care
@@an18yearoldmongolianguy Bro, I feel- *_So. Bad_* for this man-
My guy at least deserves a good ending but he didn't even get that ):.)
Orange Piccolo: ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT
It's even surprising to know that
Piccolo is Toriyama's favorite character.
Thats how u know toriyamas envolvment lessens the show has basically just been a goku/vegeta/frieza jerk off for a while now
He needs to make Piccolo great again & bring back Cell!
@@georgec3383 On the contrary, it being partly a "Frieza jerk off" is *exactly* how you know Toriyama's involved.
^
Frieza may not be Toriyama's favorite character, but the man himself has already made it clear that Frieza's one of the most enduring villains of the franchise.
i think at one point he even said Vegeta was his LEAST favorite character. this man makes no sense lol
Who do you think his favorite & least favorite villains are?
Did you know that piccolo and vegeta have NEVER fought. That's so weird.
I think they had a conversation about fighting each other before, not sure when, though.
Probably when Piccolo fused with Kami and became stronger than Vegeta, would've been nice to see.
that rivalry could've been worth seeing
Oh wow no one got the reference?
@@ludrixte1938 Not everyone follows TFS.
@Lokomot1ve I got it, but there's no reason to point it out.
Let me sum up exactly why piccolo fell off as a developed and useful character: He's not a saiyan.
Thanks toriyama
Exactly. It gets me so angry how any character who isn't a saiyan is just a side character and can't keep up with Goku and Vegeta. Like Piccolo trained for three years to be as strong as Goku who trained for his whole life, and then later on he became useless because he can't keep up just because he's not a saiyan? Vegeta even said that Namekians were very strong during the saiyan saga, and even nail was stronger than vegeta during the Namek arc. Yet, Piccolo just ends up falling far behind Goku and Vegeta just like Yamcha and other humans. Speaking of humans, Krillin and Tien are stronger than 99% of saiyans that ever lived, yet Goku and Vegeta surpass them countless times over because they're saiyans. How does that even make any sense? Saiyan biology is such a stupid and broken thing in Dragon Ball.
Thank heavens Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero gave our green boi such love and screen time
Piccolo is literally a god. He should be on par with the main cast.
That doesn't matter in the _Dragon Ball_ world at all. Kami, Kaio, and Shin are gods yet are overshadowed by the main cast in terms of power.
You named 3 characters that never train. Saiyans should be mortal and trough training reached god ki, why a god shouldn't be able to reach god ki trough trainig? Oh right I forgot that the serie is not anymore "Dragonball" but is "Saiyans' Tales"
Being guardian of earth/god always seemed like more of a title. You don't really get anything special otherwise do you? Besides living on the lookout.
@@jaketheberge1970 Don't recall Dende getting a power boost. All you seem to get is a staff that's not even as useful as the Power Pole
@@ananousous And Popo's drugs.
After you showed Yamcha in the Yamcha-crater I looked for a Yamcha T-Shirt on Ebay.
The *only* Yamcha shirts were ones with the Yamcha-crater.
F
I at least got a dignified funeral right?
Wack
Piccolo is alot like knuckles from sonic. He started out strong/intimidating but ended up being sold short in his portrayal
I’m surprised you didn’t bring up his fight with 17, which has to be one of his best fights.
Well he's talking about his character not his great moments and his fight with 17 didn't really do anything for him.
Piccolo is my favourite character. Bar none.
He had a good run up until the end of the Buu arc (even if Toriyama didn't want him to succeed)
The reason be dipped down in Super?
Gohan. No joke. Making piccolo a satellite character to Gohan ruined the character
Edit: HAH, CALLED IT
Fabled Gohan is ruining him by far, Goten should’ve had growth to be better than what Gohan is right now
Fabled !!! Fr like I don’t remember how many times he has saved gohan and take care of his daughter in DBS
My favorite character is Krillin so yeah, I miss him as the right hand man.
Piccolo litterally did nothing besides Fusion Training in the Buu Arc.
At least he gets fights again in Super.
Especially when Gohan isn't even made to be interesting anymore
Piccolo needs to get a god form or something but he needs to be back.
He was a badass villain in dragon Ball and his fight with Android 17 is one of the best. Overall I believe piccolo is a very well made character and deserves more.
TheGB agreed. Piccolo is pretty cool
Yeah,but the question is how's piccolo going to achieve that?because we can't just have goku and vegeta be the only two important characters forever.
@@newnamepending64 We could find out that some alternate universe had some god level namekians, an alternate timeline where namekians became the most powerful warrior race instead of saiyans, perhaps as a result of them going to war with saiyans and Frieza. Piccolo could then either fuse with the most powerful god namekian or learn how to become one himself.
He could get a Shonen protag power boost out of a need to protect Gohan.
There are ways to make this work.
That's a pretty good idea.when dragonball super comes back they should just use that plotline.
Technically, he was a god for several centuries. It's not unlikely that he'd remember enough instinctively to start on the path.
Funny to think that one of the last things Toriyama did for Dragon Ball was Super Hero, were picolo has a power up that catch up to the new scale of power
Everything you said about Piccolo I feel is even more true for Tien Shinhan. The dialog between him and Roshi during their fight made it seem like he was supposed to become Goku's rival to help him always have something to strive toward, someone to push him to be better. But almost immediately he becomes too weak to help at all and eventually ends up being placed in the same category as Yamcha despite being so much stronger. He doesn't even get a power up boost like Piccolo does when fusing with Nail or Kami. He is forever forced into the sidelines.
At least Piccolo gets to pretend to help. At least he has a meaningful connection to the main cast and can contribute that way. Tien gets nothing.
_At least the abridged dub gave him really bad*** moments_ 😔
(seriously, the tri-beam is just- **BREATHING IN W NOSE**
*ᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬᴬ* )
The worst part is it would be super easy to give him a power up. Kaioken, Ultimate form, a Namekian God Ritual what with the new Manga arc.
I hate how they could have easily had Piccolo keep up with Vegeta and Goku in Cell saga but that's when he starts to take a backseat.
Weird how akira has stated multiple times piccolo is his favorite character yet he keeps getting the short end of the stick. All the series has been doing lately is jerking goku, vegeta, and frieza. I mean the writers constantly gave saiyans in DBS random ass pull power ups so do it for piccolo too.
GIVE PICCOLO GOD KI!
@@gunswordfist Right? I way I saw it, Piccolo seemed to be at Vegeta's level during the Cell games. He seemed to be putting up a better fight against those Cell Jrs than both Trunks and Vegeta.
The one moment that made forever made Piccolo arbitrary weaker than the Sayians was when Babbiti singled out Kirllin and Piccolo as weaker than the rest of the characters. The moment forever relegated Piccolo to background character and he's never been able to recover since.
It would have been to easy to just keep him on par Goku and Vegeta but that one moment sent DBZ history on a different trajectory. Think of what could have been...
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi Jeez, he got compared to DAD Krillin?! Ouch.
Piccolo should have won something during Cell saga. Well, he did beat Gero momentarily...jeez, he was Super Saiyan level and still got screwed over in Android/Cell saga. Sounds like he did better than I remember with the Cell Jrs. though.
Yeah, Piccolo truly became a trainer who did nothing much in the Buu saga
it's so weird how they treat Piccolo like some old retired fighter yet he's only a few years older than Gohan.
To be fair, Piccolo was the strongest Z Warrior for 1 day.
1 day and a few hours. The whole day after Kami fuse and a few hours after fusing with Nail.
He was the strongest Z fighter for an Entire Year
Still actively focused on helping the Z fighters, unlike Vegeta on Namek who just kept them with him so Goku didn't murder him and they would hide the DB's from him
When the Saiyans pulled up he was the strongest on earth.
He was the strongest for a very short period vs freeza too
Orange Piccolo 😊
Leave him alone, Piccolo is just going through his awkward teenage years.
Namekian years.
This video embodies one of the biggest problems in the Shonen genre as a whole, beside having pointless filler episodes/ arcs, terrible pacing due to being adapted from a manga, and dragged out never ending fights....
Keep up the good work Mark..! 👍
"Having two guys inside you at the same time can really change your morals..."
-Akira Toriyama
PIccolo makes a lot more sense now
Krillin: "Gohan, when you've had a man inside of you, you always know when he's coming!"
Ha......Gayyyyyy
Phrasing.
Oh my!~
Having two people who are essentially “Don’t hurt innocents, protect the weak at all costs” really kills depth in your character.
Piccolo's underwhelming fusion with Kami is probably the moment it became clear that he'd never close the gap, at least in Z. They basically just used him as a way to stall the Androids for a bit and then show how much more powerful Cell had gotten. As for the wasted potential for Kami's character and the great moments we could have had reflecting how huge them (re!)fusing is, it goes without saying that it's disappointing.
If Piccolo not transforming often enough to sell new toys was a problem, why did Toriyama not have Piccolo change physically when he fused with Nail and Kami? He could've easily gotten a new outfit at least, if not changed colour or something. Perhaps Piccolo's fatal flaw is that he's bald and thus can't update his appearance by getting a new do?
Make him Fanta.
Believe or not piccolo was once the strongest, in android saga piccolo fused with kami, piccolo was stronger than ssj vegeta, ssj goku, ssj trunks, android 17,android 18 , and gohan
And the first hero in the show to reach the power level 1 million milestone
Piccolo is my favorite character by a long shot and I hate how he's misused in the Buu saga and Super. Toriama could learn a thing from One Piece on supporting multiple characters.
One Piece
Fairy Tail
My Hero Academia
And more
But he proved himself in the ressurection of f movie
I've never seen One Piece but I agree - the video author almost seems to think the characters are real and that Piccolo is unlucky and finds himself in unfortunate situation after unfortunate situation. In fact, it's because of the simplistic writing post-Cell saga, or perhaps earlier; there doesn't have to be one 'sideman' like the video insists. Goku is the main character and will always typically be the one who saves the day, but there used to be a genuine sense that the other characters played a huge part in helping him, or had their own part to play in defeating other villains. I liked the video but I think it's mostly nonsense: overly simplistic, one-dimensional writing has taken over DB and it's worse for it, though the latest Broly movie was an improvement since it showed that Goku needs Vegeta at least (to fuse in order to gain the power to defeat the antagonist).
One piece isnt that great in supporting side characters to be honest. The focus is a lot on luffy.
Fairy tail is a lot better in that regard.
He could easily have been kept as almost equal with Vegeta and it would have been more interesting.
Sad when you consider that piccolo is Akira toriyama FAVORITE CHARACTER
Well, to be fair, when Toriyama said that, he meant he was his favorite as a character to draw him actually, because, you know...drawing characters is what a mangaka does, just like a comic book designer/writter. And when you think about it, very ironically, this also might be enough to explain why Piccolo is the only character in the entire series that almost never get a new outfit...that's right : Toriyama loved so much to draw Piccolo, that he basically never changed his outfit from the beginning, unlike all the other main characters ! And just to push it further beyond, Piccolo is a clothing master. Just look at his clothes beam, he's the big green threads. He's the only character that always keeps the same clothes, but he's the one that gives new clothes for his partners...oh Toriyama, you funny genius sneaky smart guy !
He probably changed his mind.
@@LordZula That, or his publishers demanded he do more with gohan, vegeta, and goku, which meant he had to push piccolo aside
And Vegeta was his least favorite... Ironic
No shit right? What changed?
Piccolo before: i am the son and reincarnation of an alien demon king who had layed waste to the human race for hundreds of years
Piccolo now: *DODGE!*
I haven't really got into series, but it sounds like he needs his own manga
So let me get this straight. Piccolo started off interesting and very strong, but wasted his potential following a Timeskip, which only worsened after he achieved happiness and didn't feel the need to push himself further?
...Oh god in Piccolo, he is Gohan's dad.
And Krillin's and Vegeta's role of coming up _short_ seems intentional.
He should have trained more and trained goten and trunks
I think he could have got stronger
He was beaten by a bug
I MEAN
WHYYYYY?
@@philipomoregbe7075 At least he fought the bug. Yamcha never even layed a finger on the androids or Cell
@@dominickperez2952 but the androids laid a hand in him 😏
@@generalgrevious815 lol
@Odysseus Cell wasn't afraid of Piccolo though, he was intimidated but Trunks and Krillin was what brought him to leave
The fight between 17 and Piccolo is probably my favorite of all DBZ.
I agree
HELLZONE GRENADE
It was very cinematic.
Yup! In fact, the only one that comes close for me in the whole series is Piccolo Jr. Vs. Goku...
Vegeta's smackdown against 19 is a distant 3rd
It’s because the fight was evenly match. Usually in dbz fights the matches are lopsided. One character stomps the other. But 17 vs piccolo was evenly match and piccolo got to use creative and cool moves against him. It’s why it’s one of the best fights.
Anyone else notice that at 1:33 Mark uses the song that DBZA played when piccolo came to fight Freezer which isn't actually from Dragonball? It's "Battle with Magus" from Chrono Trigger. It's amazing how deep his love for DBZA is.
Mark often expresses that he's a big dbza fan and greatly loves and appreciates their work. So I'd believe it if he used it as inspiration, or maybe Editor-San used it for inspiration.
Also thanks, I came back to this video because of rewatching dbza and hearing that song, I then remembered it played in this video as well so I came back to check the description for the name. Unfortunately the description had no such thing, so as a last resort, I went to the comments and luckily here was your comment. Thank you, friend.
@@raistlinlove1307 You are very welcome!
The problem with a lot of the side characters is they got power crept to the point of being redundant to the plot. Krillin and Piccolo lasted the longest of the Dragonball characters
id even say the power creep got Gohan as well. i know he's not officially a Z fighter but between the Tornament of Power and Broly movie id say Frieza has almost kinda taken the Gohan role as the third most powerful character and someone who's actually useful in fighting the main villains
@@evenhartwick4422 I dont follow super so ill take you word for it since Goten pretty much doesnt exist in super from what ive heard.
@@exiaR2x78 he and trunks are practically non-existent
Gohan was pretty strong in the ToP tho.
@@TrueReverse74 Why would they be? At least they’re kids, that’s their excuse
Then you got adult Z fighters being even weaker than them
Piccolo badass moments:
Since he was born until he got defeated by Imperfect Cell.
heh yea if you think about it, he had an epic birth. His dad/mom exploded after tossing him half way around the world. And birth him after getting a little boy missle through his stomache
Db Piccolo : legitimate son of the deceased greatest evil the world has ever seen, also demon-like and God's half
DBZ Piccolo : Alien bug man of average power with still room for development and better skills
Dbs Piccolo : NANIIIIII
Dbsuper superheroes came out and... That was a nice picolo story
Meanwhile Tien's Solar Flare is on Krillin's fighterz moveset. Talk about humiliation.
Krillin made it better
japan hates tien
A lot of people use it look at the Kamehameha
@@Deathmare235 the solar flare was literally stolen from tien. master roshi taught them the kamehameha
SOL FLAR
It really is a shame. Piccolo was always my favorite character. My very first contact wth Dragon Ball was the tournament when him and Goku fought. I miss those days.
Aw you're doing Piccolo dirty! I've always felt like Piccolo was one the most responsible characters in the Z series. He devised a strategy to kill Raditz in the Saiyan saga. He protected the Z gang during the Vegeta and Frieza arcs for as long as he could. During the Android saga he fused with Nail and had one of the best fights in DB history against 17. Lastly in the Buu Saga he bought enough time for Goten and Trunks to master the fusion dance and wipe out Buu. With all that said, Goku Wins.
Recently Piccolo got a significant boost in spotlight in the new Dragon ball super: super hero movie along with Gohan
Don't worry Piccolo, you're still my favorite Dragon Ball character.
Lord Proteus seconded!
Thirded!
>toriyama says piccolo is one of his favorite characters
>has the easiest source of bullshit power ups
>doesn’t ever get a bullshit power up after Kami
what did toriyama mean by this?
By favorite he meant "favorite to give the shaft next to Gohan".
Imagine Piccolo actually stayed relevant and got the golden Frieza treatment later down the line. Would have been awesome.
Piccolo lost his spot to Vegeta. He’s still on my favorite characters though.
at this point better having him off in a badass way like on GT than being reduced to this
@@etam8099 No he sucks in GT
*sees piccolo in the title*
me: okey let's watch the video
*sees humiliated in the title*
me: rage mode activate
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We are on the same boat
I mean its true, piccolo really got humiliated in majin buu and the rest of super
@@shadowfruit8232
Absolutely
This is one of the reason I dont' like
DBS
I feel like Piccolo is underrated. He's Gohan's trainer and Pan's babysitter nowadays. He needs a push.
Wyndell Lee and pans grandfather too
Ahhhh
You know everyone are interested only in goku and vegeta
So there's no space for him
BUT HE IS AND WILL BE THE BEST CHARACTER FOR ME
Yamcha is easily the most underrated. He didn't even go to the TOP. Master Roshi went to the TOP! The 300+ Year old man that had a power level lower than Gohan when he was 6. Yamcha wasn't even that low at the end of Saiyan saga. Z straight up murdered him as a character. Super didn't even bury his grave, they took apart his limbs and fed him to a bunch of rats before gathering them up, burning them, and tossing them into the ocean.
@@dominickperez2952 The 300+ yr old man went into the ToP with centuries of fighting expertise and practical techniques. ToP Roshi was strong enough to solo some of Frieza's henchmen relatively easily. You conveniently failed to mention that.
@@decepticonxhunter4850 Yeah, because of insane powerboost that nearly fighter except Yamcha and Chiatzou got. Master Roshi before Super hasn't been in a fight since he lost to Tien and his power level was barely above Chi Chi's at that time. Even Buff Roshi wasn't too much stronger than Piccolo at the beginning of Z. Yamcha did more training and ended up several times stronger than Roshi in Z. It's not even like Roshi is more skilled than Yamcha is either. He learned the Kamehameha almost just as easily as Goku and Krillin did and his spirit ball is arguably one of the mosr underused useful attacks alongside the Kikoho and Destructo disk. Roshi had literally no reason to get into the TOP besides a power boost that made him literally millions of times stronger than he was for no reason
Piccolo is actually the strongest z fighter in his base form having a power level of a trillion
That's more than goku without god ki
He is the strongest character without transformation
1 trillion really isn’t much when goku and vegeta are in the sextillions
@@Azdal power levels are bullshit
@@tomsky4751 bullshit because you can’t follow along or bullshit because the characters are as strong as the plot demands?
@@Azdal Bullshit because they make no sense whatsoever. They are inconsistent and incoherent
Here's how we fix Piccolo going forward. Toei, if you see this you can have it and send it along to Toyotaro too.
Picollo spends three days in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
He comes out with divine ki. When Vegeta invariably questions how Piccolo simply says "There was a time when one third of me was the god of this world, and another third was it's demon king." And then Goku, Vegeta, and Piccolo can become a power trio (Goku as the Kirk, Vegeta as the Bones, Piccolo as the Spock).
Yes, please. I want. Can we have this? I really want this to be a thing. This should be a thing. Why is this not a thing!?
PICCOLO AND TIEN IN THE TIME CHAMBER FOR 3 DAYS ***PLEASE***
Keep dreaming.
I would pay money
i think the power gap is a biiiiit too big between piccolo and god ki, so i wouldnt see it happen for only three days of the hyperbolic time chamber.
That time when he arrived to fight Frieza, while saying to Vegeta that he will deal with him later, was one of the most badass entrance to a anime fight EVER. Piccolo vs 2nd form Frieza, is one of the most underrated fights in DBZ. I hope he gets a power boost in the future...they must find something
💖 ✊
Wow, unreal...my gosh...
This is amazing! I feel incredible!
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
I can win! I feel great! I CAN DO THIS!
What are you doing?
Uhh...What are you doing?
Uh...nothing.
It sounded like you were chanting to yourself
...Are you in my head?
I love that Piccolo totally outsmarted Frost in the exhibition tournament even though he had less power... The show needs more of this. It totally fits Piccolo's character but then he lost anyway and still didn't redeem himself.
Piccolo should be allowed to stand right next to Goku and Vegeta in terms of badassness.
I hate the whole Saiyan biology thing.
The DragonBall Gang trained their whole lives, get immediately surpassed and can never even dream of catching up, no matter how hard they train.
I mean, Goten and Trunks are supposed to be on par with Piccolo and could kill Krillin/Tien in a minute. It makes me sad.
That feeling when Piccolo and Gohan were your favorite characters.
So what you're saying is... Vegeta took Piccolo's job?
Honestly, I can't argue with that.
Sarcasm .mp4 Damn Saiyan immigrant
@@papaofthejohns5882 Ooooh, I see what you did there...!
Also, Vegeta took Yamcha's girlfriend. And Tien's dignity (which is why he got that hateful boner btw).
TFS already made this point in a humorous video
Vegeta ended up becoming a great character, much to akira chagrin despite the author humiliating Vegeta far more than piccollo
As a kid I always played dragonball with my friends and I was always Picollo and it was always fun. It really hurted me when Piccolo became unimportant
So these DBZ videos are slowly getting back, right? #hellyeah
So if Piccolo has turned into a Yamcha, what even is Yamcha anymore? A Launch?
Hey, at least Yamcha had a narrative purpose as a punching bag to make the new characters look cool. Launch is a non entity.
@@Juan-zs6jt
Launch is Grandpa Gohan.
Gabriel Rosalez
And what’s grandpa gohan?
A: he’s dead.
_What's a launch?_
Didn't Tori outright FORGOT about Lunch? Yamcha will get the same fate in the new series. Mark my words.
I think they should have kept Piccolo as a teacher.
I liked the mentorship he gave to Gohan, Goten and Trunks.
I wished in Super he was still teaching Goten and Trunks.
I will always enjoy Piccolo.
Yeah that would've been cool to see, and could've helped give Goten and Trunks more development in Super as well
I agree.
I personally think he should have moment with master roshi in being a teacher/mentor. Also should be personally training gohan goten and trunks.
This would in some case make him more relevant and stronger to boot.
Also they did introduce the whole concept of fusing with his entire race(not 100% accurate) during the tournament of power. He could be stronger. They just don't want him to be.
@@theomegafan304 Yeah I love Goten and Trunks, wish they had more going for them.
@@dragonofthewhiteflame4987 The Namkeians of universe 6 did that because they thought they were going to end, which ended up happening, so be it.
However, both times Piccolo did it as a last resort and didn't want to do it. With Nail he was surprised on what was going on.
Also Piccolo wants to train and use his own strength instead of just absorbing his people, who he appears to care about.
Your videos are extremely well edited and thought out. Kudos! Been binge watching them!
I was not expecting to hear falkkone in the intro, but I am so happy that I did