2000HP 5.0L Coyote Engine Teardown Featuring Brett’s (Snot Rocket) 6 Second Mustang
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- čas přidán 20. 01. 2022
- In todays video we present you with Brett LaSala’s 6 Second Mustang engine teardown. This 2000hp Powerplant had several event wins, 200+ mph passes, and ran 6’s on a stock block, stock crank, and aftermarket rods and pistons. This engine was originally built by Fast Forward Race Engine. Check out what the engine looks like inside.
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so a sleeved oem block, and forged rods and pistons making 2k hp? wow thats pretty impressive
I was just thinking the exact same thing 👍
Check out Ford Barra turbo 6 4L factory block making 2200hp+ 7.9 Sec street registered lady driver. DynoMite Perf in Sydney.
Not new to the mod motors, forged rods and pistons on the 90s teksid cobra blocks with stock sleeves are good for about as far as you can keep the B heads on the block, regular C heads wouldn't make the power, and then gt40/gt500 heads from 05+ got them to the point where they could make 3k+ with the right rod/piston on that syock kellog crank. After that, a billet steel crank was needed to not eat bearings every pass. And billet steed rods too. The record with a 4.6 modular block is near 4000 horse (according to math from a quarter mile run) done on stock sleeves bored .003 over, and the main webs started cracking. This is all rated from John mihovetz, the modular ford legend.
@@marklowe7431 who cares about a barra? coyotes have gone faster than that and are still streetable.
@@mrroboto4321 Lot of people care about Barras, that why they're getting imported to US and put into Mustangs. This video talks a lot about block limits. The barra literally from junkyard to machined can live beyond 2000hp.
2k hp with a stock block and crank is pretty extraordinary.
There is a reason coyotes are doing so well at the track and street compared to some other modern engines.
Coyote and the 5th gen vipers are doing very impressive things.
Always a extremely educational video with you Jay! There’s no better way to soak up useful information then from a group of guys that know what they are doing! That engine looks great! Keep up the good work
I love these types of engine brake down videos from you guys, I learn so much from Jay 👍
I enjoyed this video so very much! felt like an interview and brett, aced it 👍.. you can see how well they communicate and interact with each other, which is no wonder why they have had such success!!. 🔥
Really liking the tear down videos. Really interesting all the little nuggets of information and seeing how the components hold up.
I don’t own a mustang nor do I plan to, but I truly enjoy the way Jay breaks things down and how information just pours out of his mouth.
This is amazing! Hands down the best coyote video I've ever watched. Love the fine detail and all the information. Please we need more !
Love the format of this episode. Very informative and entertaining.
i can watch these types of videos all day! awesome content
Awesome video and good talk. Currently saving to get my engine together and seeing this “mildly built” one is pretty helpful
Jay is a class act and a wealth of knowledge. Grateful REALSTREETPERFORMANCE makes these videos. 👌
Another bombshell video Jay! Learned a little something about the good ole Cyotes
Great content, thanks for all your hard Jay 👍🏼
thank you for filming this it really helps me through mechanic school
Thank you for these videos i love learning from these guys who know
Brilliant team, we wish that we have such a company with that quality in our country.
Welcome back Jay. Flashback to 2001; it seems like only yesterday!
I have had good success with polishing a small radius in the bottom of the cylinders to help the BDC problem taking coatings off the pistons. Great video. Love the car. 😎
I have done the same one my Mercedes M119 motor.
Dang! Interesting tear down. I’m fiddling with a 4.6 4v out of an 03 marauder and it’s a really cool engine but the coyote has gotta be cheaper to build. Warms my heart to see you working on a ford engine.
Best part is, you don’t have to build it. Throw some boost,E-85, and a good tune and she’ll live at 7-800 rwhp for a long long time
It seems like they are in the short term but you got to realize to that Coyote motors are very costly to acquire 4.5k and up and to get one that has not been ragged on is a lot harder 5.6k and up there have also been issues with piston to wall clearance the typewriter tick and rod knock also
Then the control pack is 2600 or more for the manual transmissions plus power by the hour accessory kit and if you plan on using a manual you have to buy that buy a drive shaft ect. Plus whos gonna wire it up I may have miss something's it's gonna cost a good 20k and up to do it right
Whereas you can take your Mercury Marauder motor drop a set of rods and high compression pistons in there find a s/c kit from adtr for 8 k and get 750 hp for less then 15k if you have a buddy to help you
@@InFamousAlex209 people think it's that ez from watching CZcamsrs who have helpers and discounted parts then the average guy can get they are very costly nowadays 20k plus to do it right and if you are not a diy guy it's even more
Awsome knowledge real street keep it up
Piston: “I’m wigglin’ around down here”
Crank: “NOW!” (Sends piston upwards wether its ready or not) lol 😂
Over and over again!
Excellent explanation of the teardown Jay. I can see your passion for engines during the video. 2 questions, are you left handed? Do you measure the bottom rod bearing for squeezing on these high HP engines? Keep it up?
Quality machine work is the secret sauce in any big power application! It's difficult to find someone capable
Good informative video you guys, on a great engine. Hi compression, well built, good stuff. 😀🙋♂️
I'm a huge fan you guys do great work huge horsepower numbers you learn a lot from your videos keep them coming great job guys. My favorite engines are the Barra, 2J, stroker small-block Stroker Windsor's, Big block, coyotes and big turbos LOL
I love tear down videos
Man awesome information filled video. Got me sadly rethinking my 5.84v mod motor build. Hate to say it but I’ve been eyeing the voodoo engine for a build to drop into my sn95.
Lightnings always blow up but they are one of the most beautiful modern trucks
I'm a Motor Geek as well.. I stayed for the whole Video!
Great vid
Very cool 😎.. thank you
Would you ever consider using a flat plane crank with a turbo? You’ll that help the pistons live longer?
LET'S GO JAY!!!🏁
what an amazing video...ty
Great video.
That's truly unheard of, from my memory, for any motor. Nice tuning, Jay! That bay is clean as heck, too. Well done real street and FF. This setup actually doesn't sound very expensive to have a lot of fun...
Not very expensive? LOL
@@iDrinkJ4ck less expensive compared to other platforms where you're forced into an aftermarket block at this hp like a Dart or billet block like an AJ.
I guess everyone has a different idea of expensive.
@@chpsuey no, its far from cheap and I'm far from rich; but some guys literally spend $40-100k for 2000hp setups. I would think this is more at 15k long block.
@@chpsuey cheap for a six second engine for sure. The only expensive item may have been the R&D for the pistons. The pistons themselves probably weren't if he batch ordered them.
Really good stuff...
What is the benefit of closing off the oil squirters under the pistons?
John Mihovetz set the record with the 4.6 and went 5.88@255. He was making around 3400 hp. This was with a non billet block too. MMR recently went faster but with a full billet block.
Ya. Mihovetz did that with a 99 Teksid block with stock liners taken .002” over (dry decked with coolant routed to the back of the heads), Ford GT/Shelby GT500 head castings, and stock hydraulic lash adjusted and cam followers.
This is why I laugh at this dude saying the old 4-valves were “dark days”.
Coyote is “easy mode” only because they have readily available intake manifolds and stock engine management that will spin 8000 rpm paired with decent factory rods.
The truth is Coyote hasn’t really haven’t really progressed over the “dark days” stuff in regards to blocks, cranks and cylinder heads (Ford GT/GT500 heads specifically).
Can't go wrong with the Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon poster.
Good video, sounds like my 2021 Mustang GT is back to the spray on cylinder liners I hope that garbage doesn't fall off I guess.
Unreal video thanks for sharing some insights to the coyote engine. I'm curious about the timing chain issue. Why do they and also the LS motors have a hard time holding things together with a chain. Seems so odd..
Chains live a hard life. In the mod Ford they're long and I feel that compounds the issue. The LS has a "dinky" chain compared to other OHV engines so you have less material to handle the workload. A belt would be nice!
Curious what oil weight is lubricating the engine? What are the bearing clearances?
Them mains micro welding dayyyyym I always wondered why not stick a dowel in position or isit better it moves a little ?
Hi do you get paid for advertisements that get skipped? Love what you guys do and would like to know if letting adds play actually benefits you?
Live the vids. What do you do when a main cap has moved around like that? Is the block junk at that point?
It depends on how bad it is. You have to make the call based off investment and block availability. Thanks
I could watch Jay take apart and discuss a chainsaw engine and still be equally as fascinated
Love listening in on this while I'm working on my shit.
The coyote is an awesome engine. With a premium build 9,800 rpm is livable for a drag car.
Question for Jay: if you were rebuilding this engine and you have the “chatter” as exhibited on the faces of main caps and block; do you do any prep to these surfaces before rebuild if planning to reuse both block and caps or have they mated? I expect any prep to the mating faces would then require an addition line hone of the mains?
You can surface the block/caps if you'd like but as you mentioned you have to re align hone/bore. Thanks
@@jaymeagher1510 thank you Jay: so at this level, would you rebuild as is? Not a loaded question; trying to learn what is an issue and what is not in your opinion. Many thanks
Come on,Jay…let’s see your finest work on a LS!!!🤔🤔🤔🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
How has this process been for the blocks that dont have sleeves? Just as good........better.......or worse?
its awesome that anyone could buy snot rocket power and try thier luck at racing.
I just can't imagine taking a perfectly good engine apart. Run it till it blows!
Can’t learn that way , helps to see what’s happening and what is prone to breaking.
Ever DLC coat the pistons if they hit the wall like that?
Sorry can yall confirm for me. When you are comparing Gen 1, 2, 3 Coyote approximate safe hp limit you are talking in terms of WHP? For example Gen 3 = 900-1000whp?
Enjoyed the video with Pedro on the 2jz and also this one with Bret on the coyote; very informational.
However, I caught the slight shade at sai li with the tuning stuff; didn't care for that too much.
I'm sorry, I should have been more clear. I hope he doesn't feel slighted. Him and Brett were racing this car at high power levels with the stock ECU while trying different pistons etc. I should have been more clear about the learning curve involved. Furthermore me and everyone else that does this type of work tears things up from time to time. We don't need to take it personal, it's part of the game we choose to play. If you come to Real St you and I can go over the glass case with all the stuff I've broken over the years! It's just part of the game. I'll work to be more considerate for the internet. I know things get muddy here and again it wasn't my intention. Thanks
@@jaymeagher1510 you're a classic act Jay. I guess it's all perspective; that's just how I took it but I really appreciate you taking the time to clarify that. I used to have a s550 mustang so that's how I've crossed paths with Brett and Sai Li.
With that said, I watch alot of CZcams videos and I really enjoy the last couple videos I've watched of yours. You're right, every shop goes through issues, it's the ones that stand by their work, learn and improve their program is what sets the top shops from the rest.
I have nothing but respect for your sir. Maybe one day I can do a build with you guys.
@@SrtifiedHawk Thank you, I'll take "classic act" as a compliment with my grey/bald head! The internet sure has done a number on us as far as arguing and I'm happy to see you speaking so clean about the subject. We all need to work together to preserve our hobby. Thanks
@@jaymeagher1510 lmao that was auto correct; meant to say class act...but funny nonetheless 😄
Real st. Is now 2nd my favorite shop 🤣 I am in colorado so PFI gotta be my first 😜
Brent makes me smile hes such a good dude
Can’t be mad about that. Love both shops.
@@jamesgasper8630 yusss such a good vibe always
Pfi would be my preferred if they ever messaged back
@@ThomasRCole fair enough! I honestly just love all the speed shops, can just admire the hard work and beauty of all the race cars and drag scene
I would love to see how you figure out the hp rating on these engines that's kinda high
FFRE FTW!!!!
Gotta love ford module V8s, sleeves, rods and pistons is basically all you need to make 1500+whp. Don’t even need to increase displacement.
im suprised he never mentioned anything about having to hammer out the gudgeon pins from the pistons you should be able to just easily push them in and out with your fingers,the tight fit occurs when the engine has had detonation.
I think that's moreso because the pins were reused and the chamfer on the pin was a bit excessive. Looking at the pin bores it didn't look like it was hammering but we've run that thing pretty hard none the less. When we take the next engine apart we can have a better read on it. The bearings were not hammered, but I agree they should slide out. Thanks
I do miss ford since leaving and going to a chevy dealer 😪
"Its not a 100k mile engine" - Jay 🤣😂
I heard the stock sleeves are Teflon coated that wears out causing piston slap under 10k miles
The gen 3 coyote and the 5.2 voodoo are the only engines of the coyote family that don’t have physical sleeves. They’re not teflon coated but use a plasma spray bore coating in the cylinders which had issues on the earlier blocks
Beats the hell out of a Y Block! LOL!
What kind of valve covers are those? They almost look like gte covers.
Props to the tuner…
Can you make a b or k series tear down video
so non-sleeved only do 700hp reliably?
Jay if you doing coyote long blocks, just know that im interested
We're going to sell shortblocks in the meantime. Between the workload and family I don't think I'm jumping into a new engine.
May be out of posibility - i'd live to see a teardown & review of a Hyundai/Kia Lambda 3.3TT v6.
The camshaft gears are oval not circle so they have to be changed to a truel circle gear
what is the avg life of a cyotee if you mod it like that..
9500 RPM... damn. What rods are in this build?
Manley steel I beam rods.
@TheJFAB 4340 or 300M? Been waiting on mine for 5 months from Manley
I mean they rev to 8500 oem with a tune so definitely doesn't sound profound to go to 9500 on a built engine
Will Real Street sell these or facilitate a Coyote build? As far as I’ve ever known, If you wanted a Coyote from FFRE, you had to order through Sai.
Yes, we will be. Soon 👍🏼
What oil are you running with this engine?
What engine oil do you run?
Hold up did you say stock block and crank? Man I think I need to go coyote
Please REAL st. Do give the Lexus rcF gsF lc isF V8 some love.
Also 5.0>LS
Coyotes rule !
Modern day "Surfers." Change the oil, cool the engine, and go another round.
A sleeved block with deck inserts, I think they’re stretching the stock block theory a little too far. They are great motors though 👍
Pink Floyd wall👍
What generation coyote???
Any chance you can do this with a subaru motor
Yes you can 100% disassemble a suby engine
@@clutchkickpj693 Over and over again! I built a lot of those engines when I was getting started. It's awesome how far they're pushed these days.
Ooooh comon this is not the engine for sure 😜👌
Do some more Honda stuff that's more up most people's street
Makes me feel good that my basically stock 14 GT will have a long life as long as I maintain it.
Gen3 is 12:1 compression
a sleeved block is a “stock block”? idk
is Snot Rocket currently the fastest street legal Mustang in the world? (On the quarter mile) or who's holding that record?
Crank Part number?
As an Aussie it's weird seeing many Aussie parts used in US made engines / motorsport. In particular ECU's etc.
I think the world is smaller than we think some times. Parts can make it from Australia to Florida and Florida to Australia in 2 days. Thankfully. Because theres a lot of nice stuff coming out of Australia right now
NZ doing some awesome stuff too. Proud to be a Aussie 100%.
@@troymatthews668 I think it would be fair to NZ punches way above their weight with many things. Small population but some really good stuff. Even dairy I'd consider one of best on the planet.
MurdaSquad
I wanna see a 2000hp coyote comparison with 2000hp 2jz 🤔
Less rpm, more torque.
They did look at the world's fastest stick shift.
But that's just racing but the 2j block is hit or miss pass 1500
They literally did a tear down vid of baltic supras 2000hp 2jz dude
fuk yeah