What is gender?
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- čas přidán 17. 03. 2017
- Until recently, outside of specialist circles, the words ‘sex’ and ‘gender’ meant the same thing - a straightforward way of distinguishing between men and women. Increasingly, a distinction is made between biological sex and gender - a set of social expectations and characteristics associated with masculinity and femininity. The transgender movement suggests that the gender is entirely distinct from sex, but is also inherent in the individual. Is it possible for society to have a consensus on what sex and gender mean?
The speakers are Professor Robin Lovell-Badge, group leader, stem cell biology and developmental genetics, Francis Crick Institute; Professor Marilyn Strathern, emeritus professor of social anthropology, University of Cambridge; Dr Terri Murray, director of studies, Hampstead College of Fine Arts and Humanities; Chrissie Daz, schoolteacher, cabaret performer, writer on transgender and gender variant identity. The chair is Sandy Starr, communications officer, Progress Educational Trust.
Its very sad to say that the meaning of GENDER has been corrupted just to accommodate their ideologies.
Absolutely!
Totally agree. There are only two biological sexs. Until John Money there was no separation between gender and sex. Women are not a clothes horse or a pair of high heels or lipstick. We have seen how the corruption of the gender term has led to the direct discrimination of women (whether this be in sport, in prison, in rape crisis centres etc).
Children have been indoctrinated into gender ideology now in schools and social media channels.
It's simple. Gender determines the structure of grammar in many languages. People don't have genders, they have personality traits in combination with specific fears, doubts, remorse, orientation, disbeliefs and what have you.
"People don't have genders"- Correct, men(human beings) come in Sexes- active- male positively charged and passive-female, men and women, negatively charged respectively. No sexes not men(human beings)
Knowing sex is critical for health care. Drugs react differently in male and female bodies. Sex is also critical for crime stats - trans women still have male characteristics re: frequency of sexual assault.
*citation needed*
Actually, men who self-ID as "trans-women" follow a pattern of crime stats "MORE male than male".
Women rarely commit sex crimes; They account for less than 2% of people found guilty of sex-crimes (and most of THOSE are as co-accused with a man; ie GF helps boyfie commit a sex crime).
But even amongst men, only a small minority will commit sex crimes; Men account for >98% of sex crime arrests. But out of male prison inmates, less than 5% have ever commited a sex crime...
But if you ONLY look at the sub-set of male prison inmates, who self-ID as "trans-women", over HALF have a record for sex offences... And that's despite the fact that mtf's go to prison at a HIGHER rate than other men. (and that trend was found consistent, over 3 totally independent datsets, from three different nations)
To put it another way, an AVERAGE man has just over 50x more likelyhood to commit a sex crime, than the average woman... But the average mtf is 10x more likely to commit a sex crime than an average of men, overall... Which means mtf, men who ID as """trans-women"" are OVER 500x more likely to commit sex crimes, than a woman...
(Pretty sure YT still deletes comments with links. But google "Wings over Scotland Rorshach Test", and that data should be the first result)
What is between your leg and in your geans you are / their are thing in life which we cannot change our sex
Frustrating that it is so often the case that people on the fringe of a given thing tend to be ones monopolizing the dialogue about that thing for everyone else.
Ann Furedi made an excellent point about coffee drinkers, Kevin Kelly was spot in about young people and this being their new cause, Nancy McDermott managed to confirm her reputation as a space cadet and got it all wrong whilst Joanna Williams made an excellent point about Simone de Beauvoir.
The audience’s intelligence is impressive.
23:00 Way to represent the debate as black or white
If it sounds like hate coming from me.... That's because IT IS hate coming from me!!! How do you threaten humanity and then ask for empathy or tolerance... ???
What is this in reference to?
Third introductory speaker is strawmanning like crazy.
Is this for 11 year old people
I REALLY misjudged the lesbian speaker.
So is this not a controversial topic anymore? Is it just me or did there seem to be wide agreement among the panel and audience?
The guy at 103:50 was on target.
Luke B I haven't watched the whole thing yet but I did listen to the opening statements. Based on those, I would probably agree with you. Then again, there is a whole other 50 minutes I haven't watched yet. What I have typically found for debates such as these is that each panelist has agreements and disagreements with each of the others. Therefore it really isn't a blanket agreement but agreement on specific aspects of the topic.
Something on the side I found interesting was the panelists use of notes/text during their opening statements. It was pretty much as I expected given their professions. Anyone who has been to an interdisciplinary conference would probably notice that the use or lack of notes and/or prepared speeches is not random but has trends among fields of study.
There might not have been complete blanket agreement, but the agreement was substantial. The only person from the audience that sort of pushed back was the young lady at 1:06:05 and her viewpoint seemed very out of place.
Just a combination of non-combative panel members and a question that allowed points of contention to be skipped around, I think. Positions like "gender is purely cultural", "there are only two genders", "this gender identity stuff is just a teenage fad", "trans-activism is promoting dangerous ideas" were all floated and can all result in fireworks, just none here.
>but the gender is not purely cultural
I didn't say it was, I just noted that the point was made in the video. I even used quotes. You could have saved your energy.
Wow what a study about Gender .
GENDER: Is a type of rotary motivated military ordinance.
😂🤣😂
It's an interesting discussion, which gave me food for thoughts. But unfortunately I still don't know what gender is. It opened more questions than it answered. It also offen confuses sex with gender, and sometimes they even talk about homosexuality, which I don't see how that belongs here. Overall it's really confusing. Maybe it would have helped to have a definition at the start of what is gender and what is not?
Gender has nothing to do with being a Lesbian, Gay or Bi-sexual person which has to do with preferring a same sex relationship partner for L & G's and both sexes for Bi people. Identity has to do with gender identity. Gender Dysphoria is a psychiatric disorder when a person identitfies with the opposite gender of their biological birth gender.
A very small % of people are biologically born intersexed.
Just research the history of the word “gender” and its application will tell you exactly what it is.
People born with intersection conditions are still either male or female. There is no third sex in humans.
the said expert . 1+1 = complicated solutions equations and the answer infinity or not sure
normal people . 1=1 = 2
Gender and sex are one and the same, determined by our biology, which is why the roles we're expected to play based on our biological sex are called "gender roles" to begin with. When people say that gender is socially constructed or refers to the social and cultural differences between the sexes, etc., they're really just confusing gender itself with gender roles and norms.
Furthermore, this isn't even a workable definition with the rest of modern gender theory. After all, if someone exhibits the traits expected of men but identifies as a woman, which one are they?
If they are one and the same, why have two different words? Gender is used in four different ways and only one of them is as a synonym for sex.
@@Skuffy777 "If they are one and the same, why have two different words?"
Well the existence of synonyms is hardly news. But in this particular case, the two are used interchangeably because people tend to think "gender" sounds more appropriate than "sex".
"Gender is used in four different ways and only one of them is as a synonym for sex."
In *this* context, the only coherent option is using it interchangeably with sex. Now, can you respond to either of my criticisms against the definition (of "gender") being proposed by modern gender theory? Either that it's confusing gender itself with gender roles and norms, or that it isn't workable with the rest of their worldview?
There is a relationship between sex and gender and is the sane
Better to just say sex is real, and "gender" doesn't exist (or at best, "gender" is a religious belief, with no evidence).
Because (1) if two words mean the exact same thing, you only need ONE of them (and "sex" already has an agreed-upon, evidence-based definition. "Gender" doesn't).
And (2) because to YOU "gender" means sex... To men like Dylan Mulvany or Jeffry Marsh, or Bruce Jenner or Contrapoints, "gender" means that men get to invite themselves into women's bathrooms, women's sports', etc. "Sex" has none of this confusion.
Basically EVERYONE agrees (as much as that's possible) what "sex" means... But we've been arguing over the vague, evidence-free term "gender" for most of the last decade.
Fvck "gender". "Gender" is an evidence-free fiction.
We each have a fixed, immutable, evidence-based SEX... and we each just have to to ACCEPT that reality.
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@@baconsarny-geddon8298yeah gender is just in language and different in different languages.
It’s literally not a thing but an idea.
And that’s We should differentiate with sex(male and female, no such thing as man and women) in sports and others where the difference matters.
Boy, the girl at 20:00 makes no sense at all. So confused and unfocussed.
lol! They cited Wikipedia! These ppl are tools! Dull, broken tools.
Exactly! As if SJW and trans activists haven't created their narrative on Wiki already. That's besides the point that Wiki is not a reliable or credible source.
@1:22:29 This person is clearly not well.
It is pretty disappointing how much the actual controversial points are being avoided. Even when people said things that should be mutually exclusive it just gets brushed past
Terry if totally wrong when defining biological determinism. Determinism, in this context, is related to the biological differences between the sexes which may, it is argued, influence the memetic structure of society. But we can see today that those memes are changing rapidly in terms of the roles played by both sexes. Being the brain the most important and most developed organ for the species' survival and having established that biologically speaking there is no qualitative difference as to the capacity to perceive, absorb, store, process and retrieve knowledge between the sexes, it is obvious that advanced societies have finally begun to realise that making full use of the brain in both sexes is the best survival mechanism into the future of the species. The memes change but the genes will not.
the old lady thinks face painting has something to do with gender: my GOD~
It was an analogy to explain that genders exist as opposite - femininity vs masculinity, woman vs man.
Well if we talk about gender expression it surely does. I see the majority of women paint their faces while the majority of men don't. Even if it's just a learned behaviour it's still a great difference between genders.
@@Ignasimp historically only the wealthy of both sexes painted their faces. The working class did not. In different cultures only male warriors paint their faces and women don't.
@@Gingerblaze in very specific moments yeah. But in most of history women have painted their faces in all cultures.
You're obviously to thick and uncultured to get it.
Aryan yogi class 7 to be in the morning
The age of decadence and delusion. A game of words which lead down the road of destruction. Words, words and more words to feed their malicious agender. Like ravenous wolves that rape the innocent and feed the gullible with deception. Let's not be deceived. Genesis 1:27-28 So God made man in His own image; Male and female He created them. Then God blessed them. Be fruitful and multiply He said. HalleluYah.
Amen!🙏♥️
NOT a social construct
Above all else we think we are, we foremost are a Immortal Soul in a physical body, this automatic assumes a positive or negative polarity depending on the biological sex the body comes to being, once you learn how energy works you realize positive and negative complement each other, its beneficial for both.
1:03:30 okay but how rad would it be to scrap the whole thing and all just be referred to as attack helicopters and go about our lives😂 historians of the future will hate us, but at least the gender debate can be put to rest.
except for this she-man's opening statement, I'm surprised that the whole panel was pretty much agreeable and sensible.
kinda disappointing lol
I wanted to see some strife
and I think that Jordan Peterson should show up for one of these debates
Why?
The body chooses? Its impressive bs.
Propaganda. Not a real panel discussion. Lucky for 46:48 - a real question.
Propaganda has usually other dressings, I think this is just a more or less parciallized-towards-reason panel; certainly the irrationalist part was not invited to debate.
Minute 28: "America has become a country", and then he talks about Argentina as if it was not also America. America is a continent. Christopher Columbus came to America in October 1492. He then came back on THREE more occasions, but on NONE, not even one, of those FOUR trips did he ever set foot on what is now U.S. territory. Now..., what does that tell you about the MEANING of the word "America"? To be clear, USA is in America, but so are all those other places, where Columbus actually was, such as Dominican Republic, Cuba, etc. America is a huge continent, and USA is one of the many countries in America.
Why is there no Trans person on the panel??
Fuzzy wuzzy was a woman!
To identify as a man or a woman you would have to define what a woman is and the definition of a man. I am sure you don't need to be a scientist or scholar to answer the question.
Not one of the panel is actually Trans, so , in essence, they haven't the foggiest idea what gender really means....
You are getting this wrong. Lol. Everyone can know what gender is. Someone that identifies with a gender can perfectly know what gender is. I think it's harder for people that reject the idea of being a specific gender to know what gender is. Still, real trans people still have a clear idea of what gender they are.
Please explain your logic in thinking that only "trans" people know what gender means. Are "trans" people the only ones with a gender? What do YOU think "gender" means?
Lol, why would you pick someone WHO DENIES THEIR OWN SEX (and is so unhinged they self mutilate), as some kind of expert?!?
"This panel about car design is USELESS... coz NOT ONE speaker has been such a bad driver, they smashed into a wall at 100mph!!!"