This event demonstrated how terrible the US was when it came to fighting in forest like combat, esspecially in Germany. Hurtgen Forest was America's meat grinder. The Germans knew what they were doing. Esspecially with those 88's packed up in the thick forest, safe from Artillery, Aircraft and Tanks, there was no way the Allies were getting through this.
@@josh.palaci3276 You have to take into account that attacking tactics used in WW1 were no good when it came to trench warfare unless you had huge amounts of men. The Americans stepped in when no one else would and captured that forest
@@gidmichigan1765 I would say they did, their commanding officer constantly had land mines spread throughout the area, and the forest were so thick it would be close to impossible to encircle the Germans, given their position and the circumstance, i would say so.
Not all minefields are mapped. When running into one during an attack, you can't just stop and report "Yeah there were mines there boss, we gave up" . At least in WW2 you couldn't.
@General arollite its either run through a minefield or face the commanding officer's gun, not one step back, they had no choice in the matter, that's order 227 for you
anyone know from what movie the last bit starting at 5:00 is from? looks way more interesting with them ruskies charging that fortress while the germans hammer them with screaming meemies (nebelwerfer artilery) and machine guns
Hurtgen forest a training ground for new troops on both sides. The US Army was getting new troops who did not see combat so they were thrown into the Hurtgen Forest then when their division was shot up it was pulled out to be refitted and another one thrown in this meat grinder. They quickly learned or they ended up dead or wounded.
You know, my great grand dad fought in both the Eastern front and against the British and Americans and I know from him that the way German infantry is portrayed in movies and shows is bs. They weren't like fuckin stormtroopers lol. They shredded the Americans and fought with just as much grit, determination, and tactical skill. They just didn't have the resources or manpower left to hold whatever they won. It was either hold, or hold until you have to retreat. He said they all knew by the time Russians pushed them back to Poland and the Americans made it to the German border that the end was near, but he said him and his boys were damned if they weren't gonna make them bleed for every CM they scraped into German land. Anyway, that's why I hate these movies showing the American heroes mowing down Germans like they're stormtroopers. The Japanese did that.
@@WanderingLibertarian are you proud for the usa and how your country was built? past of having black slaves?! Always wondering how a country like the usa think they can judge about any other country. Yes there is a very dark part in the german history, for sure! But maybe you learn to begin by your own mistakes that would mean a lot!
@@felixmalotka6680 History is full of grey areas. It’s great to acknowledge them and be proud of a countries accomplishments. But to glorify acts of violence? Its as if I were to be proud of the Indian Removal Act by President Jackson. There’s a very fine line between patriotism and the glorification of an outright evil past
I was recently discussing the torpedo aspect of this with a friend. Had the Germans managed to do that where the invasion actually took place, most ships would have been sunk.
@@user-jn4qp3kn6c 😂😂 Bro the united states fought in two fronts the Pacific theater and European theater In 1942 we fought in Africa and in 1943 we fought in Italy And last I checked Stalin keep reminding Roosevelt and Churchill that they promised him they would open another front in the west
And the USSR lost like 30 million people in WW2 I they lost 6 or 7 million soldiers in WW2 The US lost over 400k soldiers and The UK lost 383k soldiers in WW2 With out the US in WW2 anything could have happened the AXIS could have won WW2
This event demonstrated how terrible the US was when it came to fighting in forest like combat, esspecially in Germany. Hurtgen Forest was America's meat grinder. The Germans knew what they were doing. Esspecially with those 88's packed up in the thick forest, safe from Artillery, Aircraft and Tanks, there was no way the Allies were getting through this.
Yes, also when the Americans entering ww1 and joining in the conquest of argonne forest
That was also very embarrassing for the America
@@josh.palaci3276 You have to take into account that attacking tactics used in WW1 were no good when it came to trench warfare unless you had huge amounts of men. The Americans stepped in when no one else would and captured that forest
I wouldn't exactly say the Germans knew what they were doing considering they left themselves open to encirclement.
@@gidmichigan1765 I would say they did, their commanding officer constantly had land mines spread throughout the area, and the forest were so thick it would be close to impossible to encircle the Germans, given their position and the circumstance, i would say so.
@@ramennoodles5007 We see it more as a Tragedy.
28th Division, "the Bloody Bucket", Pennsylvania Nation Guard.
*u mean NATIONAL
by the time the US army landed in Europe the German army was already severely weakened - starved by oil, troops, and morale.
And the German army was no means defeated when the US landed in Europe
Attacking straight through a mine field? No engineers or skirmishers? Then the 88's open up. This attack was doomed to fail before it started.
And it happened just like that
Not all minefields are mapped.
When running into one during an attack, you can't just stop and report "Yeah there were mines there boss, we gave up" . At least in WW2 you couldn't.
That sums up the Battle of Hurtgen Forest. Doomed
John Doe if u watch a whole movie ull see thaht they had no time and no men for recon
@General arollite its either run through a minefield or face the commanding officer's gun, not one step back, they had no choice in the matter, that's order 227 for you
anyone know from what movie the last bit starting at 5:00 is from? looks way more interesting with them ruskies charging that fortress while the germans hammer them with screaming meemies (nebelwerfer artilery) and machine guns
very good, but how did the g.i.'s switch into russian uniforms so fast at the end? This doesn't seem like a very realisgtic movie?
Hurtgen forest a training ground for new troops on both sides. The US Army was getting new troops who did not see combat so they were thrown into the Hurtgen Forest then when their division was shot up it was pulled out to be refitted and another one thrown in this meat grinder. They quickly learned or they ended up dead or wounded.
You know, my great grand dad fought in both the Eastern front and against the British and Americans and I know from him that the way German infantry is portrayed in movies and shows is bs. They weren't like fuckin stormtroopers lol. They shredded the Americans and fought with just as much grit, determination, and tactical skill. They just didn't have the resources or manpower left to hold whatever they won. It was either hold, or hold until you have to retreat. He said they all knew by the time Russians pushed them back to Poland and the Americans made it to the German border that the end was near, but he said him and his boys were damned if they weren't gonna make them bleed for every CM they scraped into German land. Anyway, that's why I hate these movies showing the American heroes mowing down Germans like they're stormtroopers. The Japanese did that.
Banzai Charges, absolutely useless waste of life.
Imagine glorifying your nazi past
@@WanderingLibertarian You cannot blame him Nazi just because he's telling the truth of history.
@@WanderingLibertarian are you proud for the usa and how your country was built? past of having black slaves?! Always wondering how a country like the usa think they can judge about any other country. Yes there is a very dark part in the german history, for sure! But maybe you learn to begin by your own mistakes that would mean a lot!
@@felixmalotka6680 History is full of grey areas. It’s great to acknowledge them and be proud of a countries accomplishments. But to glorify acts of violence? Its as if I were to be proud of the Indian Removal Act by President Jackson. There’s a very fine line between patriotism and the glorification of an outright evil past
В этом эпизоде показана атака в Хюртгенском лесу, скорее всего...
You know it’s bad when even the Germans said that this was worse than the Eastern Front
For the Americans?
Your channel could demonitize if there is no link, description and Credits
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What was the Russian movie called?
I will rent it.
Took me a while, but noticed the barrels of the guns have no recoil
When Trumpets Fade is the title of the movie
Movie name?
Sadly the '88's are no real 88's and they even don't have a recoil...
Strange muzzle brakes on the 88s
"When Trumpets Fade" - PLEASE include the name of the movie/series. You have GREAT posts, but you never cite the source!
he did at the start
Wtf is that music in background? 😂😂😂
Hurtgen Forest?
The trimpet fade
New vid?
Hellooo
The troops are way too close to together.
O mais top e os alemães que lutaram 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
That BAR doesn’t sound right.
Battle of blowing
Non è mai un bello spettacolo vedere uomini si scannano😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
I was recently discussing the torpedo aspect of this with a friend. Had the Germans managed to do that where the invasion actually took place, most ships would have been sunk.
Em certos filmes e tão fácil derrotar os alemães e outros não. Kkkkkk
Is it me, or does it sound like they forgot to add a gunshot sound effect for the BAR?
Bruh it sounds weak as shit
What movie tittle is this?
@Joaquin Nicholas Soriano thank you
When trumpets fade
it looks and sounds weird if people shoot in this scene. bad quality.
maybe effect are poor but movie is great
El us army no era rival para la whermacht,lo mejor del ejército aleman había sucumbido ante el ejército rojo
Поэтому США и ждали до 1944 года, чтобы малыми потерями быть победителями, хотя таковыми не были!
@@user-jn4qp3kn6c así es como trabajan esos cobardes, después se quedan con todo el crédito. Gloria al ejército rojo!
@@gnzl5653 lol America's industrial might won the war
@@user-jn4qp3kn6c 😂😂
Bro the united states fought in two fronts the Pacific theater and European theater
In 1942 we fought in Africa and in 1943 we fought in Italy
And last I checked Stalin keep reminding Roosevelt and Churchill that they promised him they would open another front in the west
And the USSR lost like 30 million people in WW2 I they lost 6 or 7 million soldiers in WW2
The US lost over 400k soldiers and
The UK lost 383k soldiers in WW2
With out the US in WW2 anything could have happened the AXIS could have won WW2
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何処の軍隊でも、勇敢な兵士と不器用な兵士がいるものですよね😂😂😂😂😂
23 months ago 😂
Кто снимал этот ужас, пипец
5:00 them be russians dude not americans
Yep
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r u sure that at the end is us army?
No the is red ARMY
@@FORAMERICA-tw4it of course
Hollywood
Moral of the story dont follow germans in the woods
sovietsky armye u nekulturnyie eta NYE amepikahski armyi
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How is that cringe wtf..
Wie ein Russenfilm.