+fernanda bueno From a baby, "Mom you and Dad are the only beings I have been with for 1 year. Before that I was nice and safe and secure in my mother's womb. There was the same temperature all the time and I was never hungry. All of my needs were cared for instantly. Then after 9 months I felt this terrible pressure that felt like it was going to squeeze me in 1/2 and kill me! But I didn't die. Instead I was squeezed down this incredibly tight tunnel while I heard my mother screaming like she was going to die and I was pushed out to this very cold place where some vicious person slapped my on my butt very hard! I couldn't stand the pain and screamed so loud that all of the nice fluid in my lung fell out ( what terrible thing will that do?). Then some nice person but not my mommy put me in a blanket and kept me warmer. For the past year my mo5ther and father were the only one4s to take care of me. I know that they love me and will always take care of me which comforts me because I can't take care of any of my needs and if someone else doesn't do it, I will die. Now look, I am going somewhere where with only my mother. I hopes nothing hurts her so she can't take care of me. O now ook, she has left the room and I am all alone with this person who might hit me and not feed me. Without my mom, I will surely die. " I know I went on a lot but just because you, probably an adult don't mind being left alone for a minute, that can hardly be true of a defenseless baby. Sometimes it's difficult to realize that a month or 2 month old infant may not have the same mental and emotional capabilities as we do.
My dad and mother always said I was a calm child,rarely cried...now I know why...being raised by narcissistics made me develop disorganized attachment,back way there I was scared but also in need of my caregivers(still am),the unresolvable fear...now I'm fucked up with dissociation.I hope I can recover someday and feel secure on my own.
+Victor Ouriques you will be fine!!! Be positive!!! Since you hv figure out what's your problems, so this could allow you to hv some cognitive changing, This is a very important step!!!!!!!!! Good luck and sorry for my bad English :D Ps: hv watched some of your videos! love it!( ^ω^)( ^ω^)( ^ω^)
+Victor Ouriques I hope you are being either facetious or sarcastic. That is the way it sounds to me and from what you write it also seems you are pretty normal.
No I'm not normal.I've been living with depersonalization disorder for 5 years,since 15,now I'm 20.It never went away,and the presence of my parents and their disagreements with my personality and choices in life increased my DP/DR to a HELL LEVEL.I Would never joke about this.I'm not "normal" and don't know if I'll ever be.I need to feel secure on my own,something I never did since I was born.
Ok, this needs to be the standard for all children starting daycare. I worked at a daycare for two years and we had so many parents who would say "I'm just going to leave while [my child]'s not looking, that way they won't miss me as much." I mean hello! That's not how it works and now you've left us, people your kid hardly knows, to attempt to comfort your child. I mean the least you can do is show them that you trust us and then leave and come back, then leave for real. They're still going to cry but at least they're slightly more. Notice how Lisa let the stranger actually touch her the second time
Luna Val, you obviously feel it's good to have a baby and then leave it to strangers to raise it! Being a parent is the greatest 'job' in the entire world but don't have a baby if you aren't going to raise it! People are f---ed up putting a job ahead of their child! Ask any first grade teacher if they can tell which kids were in daycare and which were raised by the mother and they always say yes!
🙄 this is not unethical. Calm down. The child is not being hurt at all. Leaving your child in a room with a stranger is not hurtful, you will have to do it at some point.
yeah i agree, because it’s only a stranger to the child but it’s not actually a real stranger because they obviously organised it all out he’s only another participant...so there’s obviously trust with him. although i think IF it were unethical, it wouldn’t be whether everyone had to do it at some point it’s more to do with the fact that the baby may have a distressful experience... but honestly i think it was all fine
"Leaving your child in a room with a stranger is not hurtful, you will have to do it at some point." haha Yes the pain the child feels isn't real and it's ok because it's inevitable pain. ETHICS! *jazz hands*
Lisa is fine. This is what it's like when you leave a child with a new caregiver, at preschool or daycare, or even with a relative they haven't seen in a while. Yes, they will cry, but that's just part of life. This will not leave a child traumatized. Children need to trust that their parents will come back for them. When I start with a new family (I work as a nanny), the infant will often dissolve into tears the first time the parents leave. They are confused, they do not know what is happening. Once I soothe them, they go back to normal, and happily greet their parents with a hug and a smile when they return. Nothing life-changingly horrible about that.
Actually that depends on the age of the child. If the mother is going back to work in the first year already the child is significantly more likely to get a psychological disorder. Ofc, most children still get over it, but that doesn't mean at all that it is recommendable to leave the child alone before it is old enough. If it is old enough it is ofc even important for the child to get regular contact with other children in his age without his mother protecting him from probably negative experience.
what you suggest is normalizing cruelty is normal. this is the excect reason there is so many mental illness in children by the time they reach school age they are medicated. children do not need strangers taking care of them for healthy development they need their parents.
Nothing about the study indicates that there is anything wrong with the child. In fact, the narrator states that Lisa shows signs of "secure attachment," which is normal and desireable. Not sure where you got the idea that there was something wrong.
This made my heart ache!!! I wish I could give you a big hug! You deserve love as everyone else in this world, you're worthy of love, never forget this! ❤️
It's good to notice this test shows already habitual patterns in these small children, they are not spontaneous "for the first time" happenings. The small children already have their former experiences in life situations like this, according to different ways of attachment, and react accordingly. In my opinion this is a great example of the significance of happenings from the very beginning of our lives, how we are received and treated straight after our birth, already since the first day.
When I was 6 months old my mother got leukemia and fought it in the hospital for 3 years, she survived but came back a completely different person with a severe speech impediment and brain damage. I remember first 'meeting' her at 3 and thinking 'wow this nice lady really likes me' lol but I never really thought of this nice lady as my mother. I'm nearly 40 and at this point I know that I'll never be able to marry I'm incapable of that amount of intimacy. Just thought I'd share because it's an interesting psychological case. I'm a happy person, just don't have that ability to attach.
So... you didn't have anyone else to attach to? Not a dad, aunt or uncle, even a sibling? I mean, the part about not recognizing your mom is quite interesting, but it seems weird that you find yourself unable to attach to anyone now. There was literally nobody else to attach yourself to as a baby?
My dad worked about 10 hours a day trying to support us and pay medical bills and was at the hospital a lot to be with my mother. I had some regular caretakers, family members and volunteers from church, and my teenage sister whom I'm told I called mommy sometimes and had to be corrected because it would be sad for my mother. People had their own lives and gave what time they could but I was passed around a lot.
This might sound odd, but have do you like webcomics? Because I could recommend Gunnerkrigg Court -- it's got a fantasy setting, but the main character seems to have a backstory that would possibly resonate with you. I can see how a kid who got passed around, without having a single solid person to connect with, would have problems developing that sort of connection ability. What sort of friendships have you developed by now, if any? (P.S. I'm a writer and quite interested in the details of outliers -- people whose experience strongly differs from the norm -- but if I get too personal or you just don't want to discuss it further, be straight about that and I'll try to respect your wishes. I have trouble taking hints, so don't worry about hurting my feelings through lack of tact -- just be clear where the boundaries are.)
Regardless of the circumstances we live in, we do not know when we will leave, and we must be satisfied with those we love, especially the mother with the children, who must enjoy this time and at this age with them, and when they grow up, they learn more quickly. Let me shed tears when I read your comment. May God help you. There is nothing greater than mother in this world
The baby is adorable. My heart shattered whenever she cried when the mother left the room. Each reunion made me feel happy. I hope the mother and child are doing well. 💖
I may have gotten a tear in my eye when Lisa started crawling to the door and crying immediately when her mother left lol. However I do think I had separation anxiety as a child because I freaked out anytime my parents left me, even when they had to pay for gas at the gas station and left me in the car
Like most people in these comments, I came here when learning about this in psych. Separation anxiety in infants is normal and to be expected, most young children exhibit it.
Babies often also can't understand, that when they don't see an object, it is still there. So when the parents go out of sight, the baby could think that the parents have vanished. And being sad about loved ones leaving should also feel sad. This is healthy.
Using this to study for my Developmental Psychology exam,thanks!And although it may be awful to see the baby crying, it is an important way of examining attachment and relationships, how else are we to know? Saying it is unethical is like saying its wrong to have a child crying when you're putting it to bed, babies cry, we're just finding out what upsets them
@@aplus1080 minor, temporary stress is not long-term damaging enough for a baby to be "unethical". Unfortunately, the arithmetic is simple- minor stress for some children to better treat and care for hundreds of thousands
@@missingdev0948 your logic is specious and this is how I know you're not educated. You don't have to have "long term" effects for something to be unethical. Also your last piece justifies nazi experiments. So congrats.
This is fascinating! How have I never heard or seen this before? My children are too old but it would have been interesting to see how they would have reacted.
dude, when i was young and my mother left the room, all i felt was tension going away for abit. once she would enter the room again, major anxiety and fear would come up. This sums up my childhood/teenlife. Now I manage to ignore her, but sometimes she still gives me this unsettling feeling like she's some devil.
I think some of you don't understand the meaning of this experiment. If you listen closely to the child's bereaved emotions, you can actually hear the tears of fear transitioning into tears of anger. Although the security attachment is positive between mother and child, the long term affects of continuous disruption to the attachment could lead the child into feeling a sense of abandonment. Bowlbys attachment theorys revolve around attachment and the cause of non-attachment, which could develop into all forms of crisis in the future.
it is weird I kinda like how the kid cries the instance the mom's out the room and even tries to follow her, that is soooo cute❤️ and it shows(I think) how much the kid loves and dependent on her mom and yes I am also brought here from psy class😂
Thanks for uploading, it's much easier to understand watching a video rather than reading about it in a textbook, hopefully it'll be of some help to me in my Psychology AS exam tomorrow!
This is good work. I know that it is hard to watch a baby crying, but the benefits from these types of experiments go far beyond a couple seconds of a baby crying. I wonder is the baby could have been conditioned to feel more secure with the stranger if the Mother had left the room, starting at a quick exit and re-entering and then increasing the absent time gradually? I think we are have been put in the baby's situation growing up and not as an experiment: very stressful indeed, and not very easily forgotten. Great Work, FR
Im doing a A2 psychology exam end of January. This is extremely helpful when trying to remember the stages or 'Timed Episodes' that the study contains. Thank you ever so much for uploading! ^^;;
Ha! And my mother in law is trying to tell me my 7 month old baby is "difficult" because she cry when I leave the room 🙄 She said her son (my husband) almost never cried, could play allone for hours.. Now I know why he can be so clingy 😅
Trauma is something different. What is happening here is an adaptive stress response--it is appropriate to the situation. I figure you're likely half-kidding, so I won't put effort into elaborating. Lemme know if that's not the case and I shall explain what trauma actually is. :)
I'm 19 and i'm crying when i hear the baby cry, i was with my grandma when i was just a baby becauce my mom work far from home as a teacher and my dad is a carpenter so i stay at grandma house for like the first 6 years of my life, most of which was just kinda numb, i love grandma but i feel unloved and disconnect from my parent, i love my mom becauce i really need her for company but i know she is busy so i don't ask much, they never say they love me and i'm really depressed, i never know how to talk and interact with people at my age when i was at school, being bullied for not talking much, have no friend that i can talk to, just being alone and i fear it will be forever so please show the baby some love, they really need it
I hope you can find the love you need, inside yourself. I'm sorry for the pain you are feeling. See if a counselor can help. It's not unusual to feel the things you feel, and you don't need to feel them forever. Best.
It's heartwrenching to watch, but that might be because I've experienced trauma from not being fully nurtured with needs being met. It's painful to hear the baby scream without being comforted..
Thanks for uploading the video, I'm doing AS Psychology and found it hard to visualise/remember the Strange Situation episodes, but the video really helps :) Ty :]
When I was little in kindergarten for the first two weeks I would cry every time my mom or dad would drop me off. When I was in 1st grade my dad would drop me off in the library and I would cry there as well and the librarian made a little stick man with fuzzy wire things. Then I felt better and we became friends lol
the secure attachment refers to the reunion between mother and child. The video showed both this secure attachment and separation anxiety, which is the result of the mother's absence and the stranger's presence, resoundingly denoted by WAAAAAAAA
@fiestank : It is secure attachment; The child uses the parent is a secure base and she can be seen crying when mother absent. Once the mother returns, child actively seeks contact and her crying is reduced immediately.
@thibs44, is the procedure (the eight magic steps) always the same? Because I would imagine when the parent leaves the child by themselves (the second time they leave) the child is likely to be more distraught due to their earlier experience of being left with a stranger. And that stranger probably finds it difficult to console the child. my question is, are there groups within the study where step 4 and 6 are reversed? as in parent leaving the child by themselves and then later with stranger.
@stevedoetsch This is to see how different children react to the same situation. A 'normal' healthy baby would cry when the mother leaves, but children who have been neglected will not! What they have shown you is an example of a healthy baby. This study effectively shows how different relationships with the parents can affect how the baby reacts in various ways to the same distressing situation.
I see absolutely nothing unethical in this experiment. It is a situation equivalent to a mother having to get up to answer the phone or go to the kitchen. If only they would publish what animals have to go through.
Incorrect. She said the baby displayed "outward signs of... secure attachment". The video cut then but it's clear the baby does not follow the "secure" attachment style. If it did, the baby would not cry when the mother leaves or would at least be comforted by the stranger.
@@mauia88 no. When she said outward signs, she probably meant "obvious signs". Secure babies cry when their caregivers leave them but are comforted when they are reunited. So in conclusion, this baby exhibits secure attachment.
Ao assistir o vídeo podemos observar que os recém-nascidos se apegam aos adultos que se mostram sensíveis e dispostos a estabelecerem relações sociais com os recém-nascidos. Então, notoriamente observa-se que a medida que os recém-nascidos se desenvolvem também ocorre o aumento da disposição para buscar proximidade e contato com uma figura específica para estabelecimento de senso de segurança, uma característica adaptativa com a função biológica de sobrevivência de espécies que precisam do cuidado do outro (RIBAS, 2004).
dear lord... by reading some of the comments... i really sorry for you people. as if you never left your baby in the room so it will go to sleep and then he start crying. so you go back and calm it down. whats the big deal? this experiment has no ethical problems at all, its acually based on every day life of a normal baby. and if you evoide this, well... your baby wont really grow up so normally.
this study was conducted to identify the different attachment types - Type B secure attached, Type A insecure avoidant, Type C insecure ambivalant and Type D insecure disorganised
I do wonder how this experiment works for children who were born and began life in the NICU/away from mother. Is it the same or does it impede development or expand the child's ability/willingness to be comforted by a "trusted stranger"? It's fascinating
yes. especially since the parent is only one room away. if the kids get too distressed to the point where the researchers (who have spent hundreds of hours observing kids, they know when too far is too far) know the kid's in hysterics and isn't just bawling for the sake of bawling, then it's obvious to them to let the parent back in.
@G4M3RGIR1 actually the experiment was carried out by Ainsworth to see what attachment type the child was, i won't go into detail, but actually some children were easily comforted by a stranger, some didn't care whether the motherleft the room or not, this research allowed us to see through Vanijzendorn and Krunenbergs meta analysis how children attached to caregivers through different cultures....
And that is what we are forced to do in today's society, go back to work, just leave the baby's feeling abandoned, at one year old in a kindergarten with strangers. 😢😢😢
@DeeDeeSmart Yes, from rug rat to lab rat. This sort of stress happens regularly in any infant's life. The Strange Situation helps understand what is going on. It is how the stress is resolved that matters.
im studying this for myself. I amso sick and tired of my relationship with everyone that I just HAVE to know whatis going on! I have Disorganized/Disoriented Attachment style. Time to solve this puzzle.
@elleriicee Learning Theory isn't Bowlby's Theory. Learning Theory is Classical Conditioning (Pavlov's dogs) and Operant conditioning (Dollard and Miller) Learning Theory suggests that attachment is learnt through these types of conditioning. Bowlby's Theory is that attachment is not learnt, but inborn, it is an innate drive that infants have to survive, one example of this is Lorenz's geese.
@splendidwren The 'stranger' is not unfamiliar with the situation; this person would typically be a well-trained researcher or research assistant who is comfortable with the situation. The point is that this person is unknown (i.e., a stranger) to the child.
I tried this with my 2 year old. He didn’t cry for me when I left. He just went to the door and tried to open it. Then he started playing with the furniture in the room. What does this mean?
@stevedoetsch Well actually, before the studies of Ainsworth, and Bowlby - to a degree - the psychological community generally believed in the Dependency Theory; which stipulated that infants imprint on their primary caregivers because they are dependent on them for food. Scientists (such as the aforementioned) theorized that this may not be the case, rather, infants imprint on their caregivers due to a need for protection and comfort (the Attachment Theory). Significant, profound difference.
Please tell me I'm not the only one here from psych class 😂
ur not :D
At FDTC lol?
you're not alone~
Same, Ivy Tech in Indiana.
trying to study for a fucking test tomorrow lmaoo
i love that the baby just stares at the stranger, makes me laugh eveytime xD
Yeah, like wtf is this thing?!
My son is 1 and he stares at strangers for a long time 😆
100% like who the f&* are you?
Baby "How dare you left me alone with this being".
+fernanda bueno From a baby, "Mom you and Dad are the only beings I have been with for 1 year. Before that I was nice and safe and secure in my mother's womb. There was the same temperature all the time and I was never hungry. All of my needs were cared for instantly. Then after 9 months I felt this terrible pressure that felt like it was going to squeeze me in 1/2 and kill me! But I didn't die. Instead I was squeezed down this incredibly tight tunnel while I heard my mother screaming like she was going to die and I was pushed out to this very cold place where some vicious person slapped my on my butt very hard! I couldn't stand the pain and screamed so loud that all of the nice fluid in my lung fell out ( what terrible thing will that do?). Then some nice person but not my mommy put me in a blanket and kept me warmer. For the past year my mo5ther and father were the only one4s to take care of me. I know that they love me and will always take care of me which comforts me because I can't take care of any of my needs and if someone else doesn't do it, I will die. Now look, I am going somewhere where with only my mother. I hopes nothing hurts her so she can't take care of me. O now ook, she has left the room and I am all alone with this person who might hit me and not feed me. Without my mom, I will surely die. " I know I went on a lot but just because you, probably an adult don't mind being left alone for a minute, that can hardly be true of a defenseless baby. Sometimes it's difficult to realize that a month or 2 month old infant may not have the same mental and emotional capabilities as we do.
lol
Just because a child is crying does not make the experiment unethical.
+Leeds Mitch No it doesn't, but then that is not what I said either.
the fuck is your problem dawg?!
Yes it does.
True. It only shows the relationship between mother and child.
@@ingejustavanderhelm5208 So... when a child cries in my home... I'm unethical. Yes?
My dad and mother always said I was a calm child,rarely cried...now I know why...being raised by narcissistics made me develop disorganized attachment,back way there I was scared but also in need of my caregivers(still am),the unresolvable fear...now I'm fucked up with dissociation.I hope I can recover someday and feel secure on my own.
+Victor Ouriques you will be fine!!! Be positive!!! Since you hv figure out what's your problems, so this could allow you to hv some cognitive changing, This is a very important step!!!!!!!!! Good luck and sorry for my bad English :D
Ps: hv watched some of your videos! love it!( ^ω^)( ^ω^)( ^ω^)
+Victor Ouriques Same buddy.
+Victor Ouriques sorry to hear youre still a good person and bnest of luck to you in life
+Victor Ouriques I hope you are being either facetious or sarcastic. That is the way it sounds to me and from what you write it also seems you are pretty normal.
No I'm not normal.I've been living with depersonalization disorder for 5 years,since 15,now I'm 20.It never went away,and the presence of my parents and their disagreements with my personality and choices in life increased my DP/DR to a HELL LEVEL.I Would never joke about this.I'm not "normal" and don't know if I'll ever be.I need to feel secure on my own,something I never did since I was born.
when the stranger first comes in Lisa is all like "Excuse me bitch, who are you??"
Was thinking the same thing xD
That stare xDDDD
LOL !!!!
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who's here doing online schooling bc of covid
yep, just 8 months later
@@jamesgodden7760 I hope you and your family is safe :)
@@Juuqe cheers man, all good luckily none of my family members have underlying health issues, hope ur safe dude
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Yep!
I notice that when the mom leaves the baby immediately tries to follow. Immediately.
Hey mine still do that at 18, 16 and 6 years old "where are going? Can I go? Can we stop by starbucks?"
Ok, this needs to be the standard for all children starting daycare. I worked at a daycare for two years and we had so many parents who would say "I'm just going to leave while [my child]'s not looking, that way they won't miss me as much." I mean hello! That's not how it works and now you've left us, people your kid hardly knows, to attempt to comfort your child. I mean the least you can do is show them that you trust us and then leave and come back, then leave for real. They're still going to cry but at least they're slightly more. Notice how Lisa let the stranger actually touch her the second time
Mothers should be raising their children and not a darn stranger where it won't be loved all day. Don't have kids to not even raise them!
Your comment shows you have no real grasp on actual reality for most humans WhatIsThis
Luna Val, you obviously feel it's good to have a baby and then leave it to strangers to raise it! Being a parent is the greatest 'job' in the entire world but don't have a baby if you aren't going to raise it! People are f---ed up putting a job ahead of their child! Ask any first grade teacher if they can tell which kids were in daycare and which were raised by the mother and they always say yes!
Do you also think the current world supports most one-income households, especially if there's more than one child? WhatIsThis
@@AmericanWoman1 hmm well if you can't financially support yourself or your child, you won't be raising it anyway 🤷
greetings to all preschool teachers
i’m a student and i don’t think it’s within the teachers’ capabilities to look at the comment section ahahhaha
Lol sure bruh
I've been caught
🙄 this is not unethical. Calm down. The child is not being hurt at all. Leaving your child in a room with a stranger is not hurtful, you will have to do it at some point.
Yup. Like first day at play school.. etc.
Also, I'm pretty sure the mom can see the baby on the monitors. So she's readily available if something goes wrong.
yeah i agree, because it’s only a stranger to the child but it’s not actually a real stranger because they obviously organised it all out he’s only another participant...so there’s obviously trust with him.
although i think IF it were unethical, it wouldn’t be whether everyone had to do it at some point it’s more to do with the fact that the baby may have a distressful experience...
but honestly i think it was all fine
There goes my evaluation 🥲
"Leaving your child in a room with a stranger is not hurtful, you will have to do it at some point." haha Yes the pain the child feels isn't real and it's ok because it's inevitable pain. ETHICS! *jazz hands*
Lisa is fine. This is what it's like when you leave a child with a new caregiver, at preschool or daycare, or even with a relative they haven't seen in a while. Yes, they will cry, but that's just part of life. This will not leave a child traumatized. Children need to trust that their parents will come back for them. When I start with a new family (I work as a nanny), the infant will often dissolve into tears the first time the parents leave. They are confused, they do not know what is happening. Once I soothe them, they go back to normal, and happily greet their parents with a hug and a smile when they return. Nothing life-changingly horrible about that.
Still, if I become a mother, I won't use daycare, as much as I can.
Actually that depends on the age of the child. If the mother is going back to work in the first year already the child is significantly more likely to get a psychological disorder. Ofc, most children still get over it, but that doesn't mean at all that it is recommendable to leave the child alone before it is old enough.
If it is old enough it is ofc even important for the child to get regular contact with other children in his age without his mother protecting him from probably negative experience.
what you suggest is normalizing cruelty is normal. this is the excect reason there is so many mental illness in children by the time they reach school age they are medicated. children do not need strangers taking care of them for healthy development they need their parents.
Nothing about the study indicates that there is anything wrong with the child. In fact, the narrator states that Lisa shows signs of "secure attachment," which is normal and desireable. Not sure where you got the idea that there was something wrong.
MA AD so what about when the mom has to work and no one is there to take care of the baby?
I have never been soothed like that in my entire life.
Sending hugs
This made my heart ache!!! I wish I could give you a big hug! You deserve love as everyone else in this world, you're worthy of love, never forget this! ❤️
It's interesting that the baby despite not yet being able to walk still makes an immediate effort to follow her mother mother out of the room
I love how the baby is looking at the other woman like, “who the fuck are you?”
Was looking for this comment 😂
"Do NOT touch me you pleb."
It's good to notice this test shows already habitual patterns in these small children, they are not spontaneous "for the first time" happenings. The small children already have their former experiences in life situations like this, according to different ways of attachment, and react accordingly. In my opinion this is a great example of the significance of happenings from the very beginning of our lives, how we are received and treated straight after our birth, already since the first day.
When I was 6 months old my mother got leukemia and fought it in the hospital for 3 years, she survived but came back a completely different person with a severe speech impediment and brain damage. I remember first 'meeting' her at 3 and thinking 'wow this nice lady really likes me' lol but I never really thought of this nice lady as my mother. I'm nearly 40 and at this point I know that I'll never be able to marry I'm incapable of that amount of intimacy. Just thought I'd share because it's an interesting psychological case. I'm a happy person, just don't have that ability to attach.
So... you didn't have anyone else to attach to? Not a dad, aunt or uncle, even a sibling?
I mean, the part about not recognizing your mom is quite interesting, but it seems weird that you find yourself unable to attach to anyone now. There was literally nobody else to attach yourself to as a baby?
My dad worked about 10 hours a day trying to support us and pay medical bills and was at the hospital a lot to be with my mother. I had some regular caretakers, family members and volunteers from church, and my teenage sister whom I'm told I called mommy sometimes and had to be corrected because it would be sad for my mother. People had their own lives and gave what time they could but I was passed around a lot.
This might sound odd, but have do you like webcomics? Because I could recommend Gunnerkrigg Court -- it's got a fantasy setting, but the main character seems to have a backstory that would possibly resonate with you.
I can see how a kid who got passed around, without having a single solid person to connect with, would have problems developing that sort of connection ability.
What sort of friendships have you developed by now, if any?
(P.S. I'm a writer and quite interested in the details of outliers -- people whose experience strongly differs from the norm -- but if I get too personal or you just don't want to discuss it further, be straight about that and I'll try to respect your wishes. I have trouble taking hints, so don't worry about hurting my feelings through lack of tact -- just be clear where the boundaries are.)
Regardless of the circumstances we live in, we do not know when we will leave, and we must be satisfied with those we love, especially the mother with the children, who must enjoy this time and at this age with them, and when they grow up, they learn more quickly. Let me shed tears when I read your comment. May God help you. There is nothing greater than mother in this world
The baby is adorable. My heart shattered whenever she cried when the mother left the room. Each reunion made me feel happy. I hope the mother and child are doing well. 💖
Really?
The child is probably like 50 now
@@prometheustv6558 but wasnt this released 13 yrs ago?
@@aotyyouknow3185 no it was decades
I thought it was funny because it was just an experiment but hopefully the baby doesn't remember all the "torture" lol
I may have gotten a tear in my eye when Lisa started crawling to the door and crying immediately when her mother left lol. However I do think I had separation anxiety as a child because I freaked out anytime my parents left me, even when they had to pay for gas at the gas station and left me in the car
Like most people in these comments, I came here when learning about this in psych. Separation anxiety in infants is normal and to be expected, most young children exhibit it.
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Babies often also can't understand, that when they don't see an object, it is still there. So when the parents go out of sight, the baby could think that the parents have vanished. And being sad about loved ones leaving should also feel sad. This is healthy.
Using this to study for my Developmental Psychology exam,thanks!And although it may be awful to see the baby crying, it is an important way of examining attachment and relationships, how else are we to know? Saying it is unethical is like saying its wrong to have a child crying when you're putting it to bed, babies cry, we're just finding out what upsets them
Hopefully in 13 years you've developed better logic.
@@aplus1080 minor, temporary stress is not long-term damaging enough for a baby to be "unethical". Unfortunately, the arithmetic is simple- minor stress for some children to better treat and care for hundreds of thousands
@@missingdev0948 your logic is specious and this is how I know you're not educated. You don't have to have "long term" effects for something to be unethical. Also your last piece justifies nazi experiments. So congrats.
@@aplus1080 This didn't age well...
@@galacticquasaur2956 I love soyboys who try to quip. Go do jumping jacks.
This is fascinating! How have I never heard or seen this before? My children are too old but it would have been interesting to see how they would have reacted.
dude, when i was young and my mother left the room, all i felt was tension going away for abit. once she would enter the room again, major anxiety and fear would come up. This sums up my childhood/teenlife. Now I manage to ignore her, but sometimes she still gives me this unsettling feeling like she's some devil.
Holy shit man that’s scary. Whatd she do though?
I remember when my mom would drop me off in first grade and I would always cry. It was embarrassing
I think some of you don't understand the meaning of this experiment. If you listen closely to the child's bereaved emotions, you can actually hear the tears of fear transitioning into tears of anger. Although the security attachment is positive between mother and child, the long term affects of continuous disruption to the attachment could lead the child into feeling a sense of abandonment. Bowlbys attachment theorys revolve around attachment and the cause of non-attachment, which could develop into all forms of crisis in the future.
We are expressive of how loneliness sucks since our birth
I was watching it it in the developmental psychology course at the university together with my professor!
it is weird I kinda like how the kid cries the instance the mom's out the room and even tries to follow her, that is soooo cute❤️ and it shows(I think) how much the kid loves and dependent on her mom
and yes I am also brought here from psy class😂
Being dependent isn't a good thing. Exactly what did your psychology class teach you about this? I'm curious.
Just learnt about this experiment in my psychology class.
I can only imagine Lisa running into this video and being "wtf mom"
Thanks for uploading, it's much easier to understand watching a video rather than reading about it in a textbook, hopefully it'll be of some help to me in my Psychology AS exam tomorrow!
I have an exam tomorrow. Visual learning!
Idk why they are talking about ethical issue about this one. This situation always happen in real life, not only in the lab.
This is good work. I know that it is hard to watch a baby crying, but the benefits from these types of experiments go far beyond a couple seconds of a baby crying. I wonder is the baby could have been conditioned to feel more secure with the stranger if the Mother had left the room, starting at a quick exit and re-entering and then increasing the absent time gradually? I think we are have been put in the baby's situation growing up and not as an experiment: very stressful indeed, and not very easily forgotten. Great Work, FR
Im doing a A2 psychology exam end of January.
This is extremely helpful when trying to remember the stages or 'Timed Episodes' that the study contains.
Thank you ever so much for uploading!
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howd it go
@@mj3off bro this comment was 12 YEARS ago lol
@@kalilawhite Fr that’s wild
Ha! And my mother in law is trying to tell me my 7 month old baby is "difficult" because she cry when I leave the room 🙄
She said her son (my husband) almost never cried, could play allone for hours.. Now I know why he can be so clingy 😅
So every time a mother needs to use the restroom, the child gets traumatized?
In an unfamiliar setting, yes. At home, no.
Trauma is something different. What is happening here is an adaptive stress response--it is appropriate to the situation. I figure you're likely half-kidding, so I won't put effort into elaborating. Lemme know if that's not the case and I shall explain what trauma actually is. :)
Dude, pretty much.
I'm actually interested to know how one would scientifically describe the process of trauma, would you mind elaborating?
in a home setting there are other family members familiar to the child. you sound sarcastic
I'm 19 and i'm crying when i hear the baby cry, i was with my grandma when i was just a baby becauce my mom work far from home as a teacher and my dad is a carpenter so i stay at grandma house for like the first 6 years of my life, most of which was just kinda numb, i love grandma but i feel unloved and disconnect from my parent, i love my mom becauce i really need her for company but i know she is busy so i don't ask much, they never say they love me and i'm really depressed, i never know how to talk and interact with people at my age when i was at school, being bullied for not talking much, have no friend that i can talk to, just being alone and i fear it will be forever so please show the baby some love, they really need it
I hope you can find the love you need, inside yourself. I'm sorry for the pain you are feeling. See if a counselor can help. It's not unusual to feel the things you feel, and you don't need to feel them forever. Best.
It's heartwrenching to watch, but that might be because I've experienced trauma from not being fully nurtured with needs being met. It's painful to hear the baby scream without being comforted..
That "strange" adult didn't look that strange to me. A funny hat or some fluro pants might have done it.
But seriously this shit is so amazing.
Sorry,why is this amazing?Been used to seeing this all my life and I am a man!
wilsonic "Strange" as in stranger.
missing the point
how old are you? you talk like a juvenile who has no clue about life
I'm only stuDYING
Thanks for uploading the video, I'm doing AS Psychology and found it hard to visualise/remember the Strange Situation episodes, but the video really helps :) Ty :]
hello I'm from the future
I stumbled upon this video looking up activities to do with my grandma in hospice. Not what I was looking for but I’m going to stay lol.
Did Catelyn Stark narrate this =P
When I was little in kindergarten for the first two weeks I would cry every time my mom or dad would drop me off. When I was in 1st grade my dad would drop me off in the library and I would cry there as well and the librarian made a little stick man with fuzzy wire things. Then I felt better and we became friends lol
Psychologists can be so smart when devising ways to conduct experiments!
the secure attachment refers to the reunion between mother and child. The video showed both this secure attachment and separation anxiety, which is the result of the mother's absence and the stranger's presence, resoundingly denoted by WAAAAAAAA
@fiestank : It is secure attachment; The child uses the parent is a secure base and she can be seen crying when mother absent. Once the mother returns, child actively seeks contact and her crying is reduced immediately.
Thank you for this piece.
Das erinnert mich daran, das es so wichtig ist, das man als fremde Person eine gute Bindung zum Kind aufbaut und es nicht einfach „sofort“ geht.
Where can I see the rest of this?
Bro the way the baby stayed lookin at the caregiver. "Who da heck are you?"
This video has really helped my psychology course work
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
Who's here just out of curiosity?
@thibs44, is the procedure (the eight magic steps) always the same?
Because I would imagine when the parent leaves the child by themselves (the second time they leave) the child is likely to be more distraught due to their earlier experience of being left with a stranger. And that stranger probably finds it difficult to console the child.
my question is, are there groups within the study where step 4 and 6 are reversed? as in parent leaving the child by themselves and then later with stranger.
@stevedoetsch This is to see how different children react to the same situation. A 'normal' healthy baby would cry when the mother leaves, but children who have been neglected will not! What they have shown you is an example of a healthy baby. This study effectively shows how different relationships with the parents can affect how the baby reacts in various ways to the same distressing situation.
Psychology revision, thanks!
Super cute how she cries and goes for the blue toy at the same time. Good kid. Probably my age by now.
I see absolutely nothing unethical in this experiment. It is a situation equivalent to a mother having to get up to answer the phone or go to the kitchen. If only they would publish what animals have to go through.
Aww gosh that is so cute! This video is defiantly going to help me remember this study :).
hi I'm from the future
anyone know who filmed this video or where they did? I appreciate the information.
3:12 What attachment style does she exhibit? "Secure"
Save ya the trip, lol
Incorrect. She said the baby displayed "outward signs of... secure attachment". The video cut then but it's clear the baby does not follow the "secure" attachment style. If it did, the baby would not cry when the mother leaves or would at least be comforted by the stranger.
@@mauia88 no. When she said outward signs, she probably meant "obvious signs". Secure babies cry when their caregivers leave them but are comforted when they are reunited. So in conclusion, this baby exhibits secure attachment.
bless your heart
The baby just being casually trying to play around while staring at the Stranger has me rolling
Ao assistir o vídeo podemos observar que os recém-nascidos se apegam aos adultos que se mostram sensíveis e dispostos a estabelecerem relações sociais com os recém-nascidos. Então, notoriamente observa-se que a medida que os recém-nascidos se desenvolvem também ocorre o aumento da disposição para buscar proximidade e contato com uma figura específica para estabelecimento de senso de segurança, uma característica adaptativa com a função biológica de sobrevivência de espécies que precisam do cuidado do outro (RIBAS, 2004).
dear lord... by reading some of the comments... i really sorry for you people. as if you never left your baby in the room so it will go to sleep and then he start crying. so you go back and calm it down. whats the big deal? this experiment has no ethical problems at all, its acually based on every day life of a normal baby. and if you evoide this, well... your baby wont really grow up so normally.
She crawls cutely.
watching this in history of psychology at georgetown university right now! yeah
this study was conducted to identify the different attachment types - Type B secure attached, Type A insecure avoidant, Type C insecure ambivalant and Type D insecure disorganised
very useful video. Very good experiment
I'm glad I was never called upon to put my child through such a test. So cruel.
I know they are trying to study the child, it's still mean.
This is really interesting!
I do wonder how this experiment works for children who were born and began life in the NICU/away from mother. Is it the same or does it impede development or expand the child's ability/willingness to be comforted by a "trusted stranger"? It's fascinating
oh i love this idea!! i hope people could look into this more
What's the point of showing us this situation but omitting the narrative that would explain it?
yes. especially since the parent is only one room away. if the kids get too distressed to the point where the researchers (who have spent hundreds of hours observing kids, they know when too far is too far) know the kid's in hysterics and isn't just bawling for the sake of bawling, then it's obvious to them to let the parent back in.
YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
How is lisa now?
@G4M3RGIR1 actually the experiment was carried out by Ainsworth to see what attachment type the child was, i won't go into detail, but actually some children were easily comforted by a stranger, some didn't care whether the motherleft the room or not, this research allowed us to see through Vanijzendorn and Krunenbergs meta analysis how children attached to caregivers through different cultures....
I just got the book “attached” and now I’m here 😂
would you say this experiment is to do with learning theory? (bowlby's theory) x
What is the source of this video ? Would it be possible to re-use it ?
And that is what we are forced to do in today's society, go back to work, just leave the baby's feeling abandoned, at one year old in a kindergarten with strangers. 😢😢😢
*Stranger tries to comfort baby*
Baby "Respectfully lady, get out my f*cking face"
This exact thing happens when I leave my cat at the boarding place during vacation.
@DeeDeeSmart Yes, from rug rat to lab rat. This sort of stress happens regularly in any infant's life. The Strange Situation helps understand what is going on. It is how the stress is resolved that matters.
dingoswamphead what matter is to avoid stress at any coast in the first 3 years of the child life while the brain is still develop.
@@Benstephan123 It is completely impossible to avoid stress for a child, and would be extremely unhealthy even if it were.
psych class slappin rn
im studying this for myself. I amso sick and tired of my relationship with everyone that I just HAVE to know whatis going on! I have Disorganized/Disoriented Attachment style. Time to solve this puzzle.
@G4M3RGIR1 Thibs44 is right. This procedure explores prevalence of Reactive Attachment Disroder in children.
This is so interesting to me.
Attachment is the root of all suffering
Attachment is lifelong. There’s more suffering without it.
@@TSKewl this is not what the quote says
@elleriicee Learning Theory isn't Bowlby's Theory. Learning Theory is Classical Conditioning (Pavlov's dogs) and Operant conditioning (Dollard and Miller) Learning Theory suggests that attachment is learnt through these types of conditioning. Bowlby's Theory is that attachment is not learnt, but inborn, it is an innate drive that infants have to survive, one example of this is Lorenz's geese.
This is a secure attachment right?
i wonder what career i should study for this, i really find it very interesting
@splendidwren The 'stranger' is not unfamiliar with the situation; this person would typically be a well-trained researcher or research assistant who is comfortable with the situation. The point is that this person is unknown (i.e., a stranger) to the child.
the research is clear, temperament is "inborn"; attachment type is learnt/modelled from the parent
Heard from Erik Erikson at some point it is necessary to leave your child alone and let them feel disappointment.
Not sure you got that right... Doesn't sound like Erikson to me and I've taught him for years.
the child reverts to the beginning stages of communication in order to recreate it's bond with the new supplier of nourishment.
Can you please add captions?
does anyone know how to harvard reference this??
I tried this with my 2 year old. He didn’t cry for me when I left. He just went to the door and tried to open it. Then he started playing with the furniture in the room. What does this mean?
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
infants discriminate between their mother/caregiver from strangers because at a very young age, they get attached to them and form a bond (:
@sleep1937 hi, what's the developmental psychology exam?
@stevedoetsch
Well actually, before the studies of Ainsworth, and Bowlby - to a degree - the psychological community generally believed in the Dependency Theory; which stipulated that infants imprint on their primary caregivers because they are dependent on them for food. Scientists (such as the aforementioned) theorized that this may not be the case, rather, infants imprint on their caregivers due to a need for protection and comfort (the Attachment Theory). Significant, profound difference.