FINAL RESULTS! 8HP70 swapped 2JZ S15 Silvia
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- čas přidán 13. 04. 2024
- FINAL RESULTS! 8HP70 swapped 2JZ S15 Silvia
Honest review of the new 8hp70 swap in the s15 silvia. Powered by the 2jzgte vvti engine producing 800whp. The nissan Silvia S15 is set up for grip in street and roll racing. Pro Street Radials in 275/45 R17. 3.69 Final drive with Drag suspension, staged boost control and traction control.
• How to swap a ZF 8HP70...
• Mastering the 8HP70 SW...
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My man turned into an 8yo driving and that's what we're all in for :D 8HPJZ the world
Hell yea!!!! That’s what it’s about!!!
8hp everything! I came here for the jz hp conversion, but imagine the drivablity of any old car with a new box. I'm into my old Toyota's, so I'm imagining how my celica, crown, Mk2 corona would morph by having an 8 speed behind the OG engine. The tech is awesome!
@@ryman1554 i’m 8hp swapping my Chaser 😎🤝🏼
@@Motorsporttuningsolutions1awesome channel
This is goals, auto when you want to, manual when you want to, love seeing this swap getting populair, first time I saw it was at zero to 60
Thanks mate, yea it’s a deluxe setup
Just doing my SR22VET with 8HP70 can’t wait.
Nice mate!!!!
Like a kid in a candy store !!
Man that 8hp70 rips!! The thing with that trans is the instant boost in every gear ,its like a day vs night vs any other manual or sequential trans
For sure man, it’s a beautiful thing! Definitely worth the swap
I’m a paraplegic and miss clutching but this gives me so much hope because I can actually possibly drive my dream car one day(Supra).
This could be the perfect solution for you my brother 🙏
Every review I've seen of cars coming equipped with that ZF 8 speed the reviewers can't stop raving about how good that trans is. From Dodge Chargers and trucks to high end luxury cars. incredibly versatile and one of the fastest shifting autos ever made. Those Germans sure know what they are doing
Yea they not bad at all! Strong and able to be modified
I was just thinking the other day that I needed to see part 3. Hell yeah. I cant wait to 8HP swap my 1UZ turbo Datsun.
Keen to see the Datsun when it’s done
Awesome channel mate , I’m just in process of 8hp & single turbo my N54 ,
Loving the content man. Definitely inspiring. Keep killing it brother 🤙🏾
Cheers my brother
Wicked setup! This video series has now made me rethink my entire build after putting on less than 1000km on the current transmission setup 🤦♂
Yea it’s definitely something to consider
Huge fan of this conversion. Well done mate 👍🏿👌🏿💪🏿🇦🇺
Thanks mate
Looks like a great combo with the g40 too holy fark !! 😍😍 i cant wait to be giggling like you after every pull
Yea the turbo is a very nice size for this application, I’m by no means maxing it out and it comes on quick!
Can’t help my self, it’s such a fun time
Love your work & content bro 🔥
Cheers brother
Im converting also a S15 with a RB32 from ppg to dct with cantcu. hopefully running this year 🎉
Very nice mate. Sounds amazing
Great to see the next vid.
Cheers mate
nice video keep them coming
Thanks mate
i think im for sure will be going with this trans in my s13 .
It’s a no brainer man. Such a cool
Setup
Mate that is off it's head well done killer set up
Cheers mate, epic fun
GOALS. Love it.
Cheers mate
Best engine for any setup or engine swap 💨💥💯
Hard to beat.
Keen to see this at next roll racing meet
Me too mate, was very close to going last Saturday. Just didn’t happen
"None of that twin plate ratatata" speaks to me on a spiritual level. My twin plate has made my dislike driving my car.
Haha yea man, I didn’t like driving my car that much with the twin plate. Now it’s just beautiful
Over the years, especially since it has gotten so easy to make power, I just came to really dislike clutches altogether. 8HPs seem like the answer to it all. You can even still have a clutch pedal, without all of the mechanical headache! Dreamy. Lol
Yea I appreciate an original manual clutch sports car, but now I’m after comfortable and ballistic mixed together
Nice review on the 8hp .Have you seen the Bluetooth paddle shifters at domiworks
Cheers mate, I’ll check them out
I have an 8HP in my E30 turbo 2.8 m50. What a hoot this tranny is! Absolutely love it.
Very nice mate, well done!!
What are you using to control it?
@@Sugarkryptonite
CANTCU
really want this for my 33
Nice
Great videos. I am planning to do this swap with an ls here in the states. If you do remote tuning I would be interested in having you help. Also, I noticed you where looking at the turbolamik display for the gear your in. Isn’t it possible to show gear in the haltech display?
Very nice mate, will be a great setup!
Yea I can help setup your car for you.
Just reach out to my business FB page and I can help.
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Awesome!!!😀😀
Thanks! 😄
@@Motorsporttuningsolutions1 bro the smile on your face said it all lol
Yea i did get a bit excited haha
Great info! Can you share what you are doing for the wheel speed setup to support traction control? I’d like to do the same in my S15 8hp build!
Yep, I’m running a rear tailshaft trigger wheel and a front speed sensor setup to work with Link ecu traction control
Does this thing have... ac? 😄
Looks proper mate! Starting a 8HP swap in my old Vette.
Not at this point, I do have all the components sitting on the shelves though, just need to find time to install it back in
what a riot ahahaha love it
Awesome video, great to see the s15 on the road. What software did you use to get all of your data?
It’s the Link ecu G4X software
@@Motorsporttuningsolutions1 awesome man thanks 🙌🏾
hey man will you be doing the ignition cut on the gear changes?? would be keen to see hoq that sounds
Yea I had the bangs between gears when I had poor traction setup previously. The bangs are from ignition retard not ignition cut. They can sound cool but I don’t like the fact it causes a boost increase if it’s an aggressive retard amount.
Did you find there were challenges setting up the TCU and the haltech to work together? I'm looking to do the same swap on my skyline gt-r.
No major challenges, just need to have the correct info going into ecu and back into TCU. I’m running the Link FuryX ecu but both need the same setup to work.
So cool! Makes me really want to swap my 2jz. Is your 8hp70 completly stock? No upgrades needed for 800hp?
I would highly suggest it the swap mate.
Yep, stock used 8hp70 gearbox. I’m at 880NM and the gearbox in factory form can handle 1200nm. So plenty left in the box.
Great stuff man! Would you be interested in helping remote tune one of these boxes for us here in the USA? Happy to pay for your time and help if possible.
Appreciate the msg and yes you can PM me on my FB page of you like.
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What sort of rpm do you redline the engine for the safety of the box?
i’ve seen a lot of forum posts etc saying there is issues with the 8hp boxes over 7500-8k rpm due to oil pump cavitation. Are you able to shed any light on this from your experiences with the boxes?
Have an sr that’ll be spinning upwards of 10k rpm.
Good question, i run the engines so far to 8000rpm with the 2jz engines, power is made very early with the 2jz so we don’t need such high rpm.
I wouldn’t have an issue spinning it to 8500rpm but I would have concerns above that. 9000rpm I would say is possible, but 10,000rpm is just crazy haha
Awesome video. What ecu are you running?
Cheers mate. Link FuryX
You think a 2j swap in a e92 with this trans would bolt right up? My concern is with the swap kits already offered for the 2j to e92 swap, would they mate up good with the 8hp.
Like anything modified, Nothing is a bolt in with no modification install, this will definitely fit and be a great idea but you will need to fabricate some things, cross member to hold box to chassis, driveshaft made to suit etc
When we see you at Brisbane roll racing?
Hopefully the next one mate. Car is ready, just always so tired when it’s race day.
I think it should act sort of more like a stock car. I normally bmw wouldn’t go straight to 7th after flooring it a bit like that.
Legend! Thanks for the video.
Have a 100% genuine parts BNR34 clone going in for paint soon and this has been the setup i have wanted for about 3 years now! Stoked to see it in action.
On a side note can you set it up to get more blow off valve noise?
Cheers man. Will be good to see your car on the street.
BOV noise is done with how it’s installed and the piping that’s used. Me personally, I’m not a fan of the bov noise. But I’m old haha
Haha fair I have had so many loud bikes and cars I am done with it😅
Haha I’m after comfort and ballistic mixed together
What diff gear ratio and tire size are you using? Are you using the stock torque converter
Stock converter, 3.69 final, 275/45R17
@@Motorsporttuningsolutions1 so stock converter from a diesel, if so are you going to try a petrol one ? Did you go 3.7 diff because of rev limitations in 7th & 8th? Cheers, good vid.
No im using a petrol 8hp70 stock box. So a stock petrol converter.
In the stock cars these come from, the final drive is about 3.2-3.4 ratio. Even with a 4.1 ratio like I had, you won’t really use gear 7/8 for anything but very low rpm cruise. Even the 4.1 at 8000rpm in 8th gear would be like 400kph.
Reason for lowering the final drive from 4.1 to 3.7 is grip, it’s way to hard to get 800hp to grip with such violent gears gearing, I’ve dropped it down to lower the torque multiplier in lower gears.
Have you pushed the G40 turbo to higher boost
Not yet, the setup wants more but I’m pushing the stock bottom end a bit far at this power level.
how much would something like this cost? I'm putting 1jz into my GS300 and was just looking at different auto transmissions
You can contact Charles from Track industries. He supplies all kits for everyone and is a great guy to deal with.
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What order auto transmission would you recommend for swaps like this.
8hp70 for sure
Is there any noticeable delay when you demand and shift and the shift actually happening?
When downshifting is it still a direct feel?
Trying to work out if this would be a suitable replacement over a sequential for a circuit car.
Hey mate, yes there is a delay, it’s about 150ms of delay, this could be tightened up a bit but this delay is more to do with the gearbox getting the correct solenoids full with oil to select the next gear, the shift time of the actual gearbox is very quick (70-120ms) but yes there is a delay on top.
Roll racing and drag racing it’s not an issue but it may be more of an issue with circuit racing. Maybe a DCT gearbox is more suited for time attack/circuit racing, but I haven’t compared both on a track to really know.
Not like the 8HP won’t be a good gearbox for circuit, just a DCT may be a bit better at super sharp shifting times with no delay, if that is a preference.
Both 8HP and DCT have pros and cons.
@@Motorsporttuningsolutions1 Agreed. For circuit racing Temperature would become an issue very fast with the amount of changes/RPM you would be at. As long as you can keep the Trans cool and dont mind the slight delay i say why not.
Yea I believe with the correct cooling system for gearbox fluid, well designed, would not be an issue.
Know anyone using the MaxxEcu for 8hp control to compare with Lamik?
Not personally but it would have limitations compared to a dedicated TCU.
Good option for people but the TurboLamik would be hard to beat.
@@Motorsporttuningsolutions1 Seems like the Lamik has limitations of not skipping gears. Has that been an issue ?
@@prussnblk6457 I’m not sure what you’re asking exactly. I think it would be hard for any other controller to out smart the Lamik. It is a very capable TCU
I understand the point you're making and the benefits of this transmission but I never have or really... never will own a car without a true gated stick shift.
I’m an 80s kid, all I have ever owned is manual transmission race cars. Now having access to newer technologies for the cars is hands down such an improvement.
Same goes for electronics controlling our race cars now, so much better 😃
Do you lose much hp when swapping from manual to auto
No not like a normal auto. I went from 810hp to 775hp, hardly an issue in my books. Nothing 1.5psi can’t change haha
thats all fine and lovely really.
but can it be launched ??
Yep, can use the Transbrake feature or simulated clutch pedal classic clutch dump. So has two forms of launch.
@@Motorsporttuningsolutions1 cool great. also another stupid question. if the engine is already tuned prior w/gearbox. would it need to get retuned to kind of be happy with the trans instead of a manual gearbox?
@@Notorioussociety242 nah that’s actually a great question mate. The engine tune would need to be looked at, only because the auto will behave slightly different in the cruise and idle parts of the map, these different parts of the map the engine accesses may not have been efficiently tuned with the manual. Any quality/competant tuner will have these parts of the map mostly predicted and tuned but may not be perfect.
If you have a good quality wideband setup well, it can help also
@@Motorsporttuningsolutions1 thanks man appreciate the replies. planning to start this swap on my S15 myself next year. SR20VET though 😉
This guys a crack up, lol!
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This is awesome content, but don't get yourself raided and arrested! I'd chop that datalog off at the speed limit if I were you, and delete all of the footage you have of anything that's not strictly legal. You guys have it rough down there.
Appreciate the advice man, lucky this data log on the end of video is from the track and not from the street 👍
All street footage also is bellow speed limits so I’m safe with that too.
@@Motorsporttuningsolutions1 Glad you're looking out for yourself! I definitely want to see more 8HP footage from you.
Thanks mate, me too, interesting to see how far this setup can go
HOLLA!!!!
My man!
Dude, this is everything I wanted my LS turbo 8hp70 s13 to end up like. Sadly HTG let me down hard but it looks like Lamik has this handled now🤘 looking forward to putting the 8hp back in now!
Yea thee we TurboLamik TCU works great mate. Let me know if you need any tips for setup
next upgrade: adaptive cruise control
How to make a Nissan reliable. 😮
Haha you know it!
@@Motorsporttuningsolutions1 lmaoo
this looks freakin awsome😮💨making me want to swap out my v160 in my supra.. Running almost 1100nm at the moment, will the 8hp70 handle it?
Yea the v160 would help fund most of the swap if you did. Yea 1200nm is the supposed max limit, but increasing that isn’t a huge job to update a couple of parts in gearbox.
You can drop some “Max torque” out of the tune at the 4-5000rpm range but keep HP high heading up the rpm range!
@@Motorsporttuningsolutions1 Awsome, i thought they only held 700nm. Do you know if it will work with a Supralink G4+ ecu?
Yea they handle more than 700NM, my 2jz is at 850nm and going strong.
Yep Link G4+ will work with this setup. Like any ecu, they take correct configuration to work properly.