Franchises That Should Have Died - The Weekly Planet Podcast
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This week we explore the new trailer for Dune, a movie that might come out at some point as well as information on the Star Wars sequel trilogy that is...unsurprising. We also talk The Walking Dead coming to an end, Kenobi starting up, Mulan controversy, Thor retirement, Wonder Woman 84 delayed again plus a Robocop prequel series. PLUS a discussion on movies that should have stopped at one but just didn’t. Thanks for listening.
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00:00 The Start
03:47 Borat 2 Already Filmed
09:01 Daisy Ridley Kenobi Interview
14:26 Kenobi Series Update
18:15 The Walking Dead is Ending
20:26 Mission Impossible 7 Insane Stunt
23:22 Mulan Controversy
27:01 Thor Retirement plus Love & Thunder News
30:54 Dune Trailer
37:46 Wonder Woman 84 Delayed
39:23 Robocop Prequel Series
44:40 Movies That Should've Stopped
01:21:32 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read
01:25:35 Letters, It's Time For Letters
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Rey's real identity was the one the fans made up along the way.
"Why are you opening with mysteries? The first Star Wars is not a mystery. Like, the information is presented." Exactly.
More like Mr. Releases His Podcasts Early And The Fans Love It Movies
Got em
Got em mate
I believe that is what the kids call a “sick burn”
I don’t think he’ll recover after that one mate
Got 'em so good, they may never do it again
I saw Jai Courtney while I was working at Adelaide Airport, I stared at him for like five minutes trying to figure out who he was before he walked off and I realized that I just saw Captain Boomerang in person, beautiful man.
I believe you mean taken 4: granted
More like Taken 4: A Ride.
Taken 4: Everything
Davy Jones though, come on! You can't get rid of dead man's chest and world's end.
(Side note - grew up watching them, probably good nostalgia haze but really love them)
Find your self a friend that constantly makes you giggle mid sentence the way Mason does to James.
😂
"I don't know what's happening Mason!"
Welcome to 2020!
I met Ben Stein once. He came to the book store I worked at (wearing his trademark suit and tennis shoes) looking for a book on poetry we did not currently have available do to parts of the store being renovated. I was smiling and thrilled as he proceeded to ruthlessly scold and belittle the store staff for not having his book. I already knew he was a nut, so I didn't mind - I was just so excited to be yelled at by semi famous movie, tv, and propaganda film star Ben Stein!!!
@Conn Benn I said tennis shoes... But maybe sneakers is a more appropriate term. Anyway, he wears them, I can only guess, to be 'cool and iconic' but really, it just comes off embarrassing lol
Conn Benn
Shoes for tennis are also called “tennis shoes” but you distinctly say it as two words, where other non-specific athletic shoes is pronounced more like, “tennishoes”.
Or maybe that’s just me.
Conn Benn Sneakers are typically worn casually and not for running either
Me: "Who makes a podcast at 12:30 am?"
Weekly Planet: "Oh boy 12:30 am!"
Edit: They're Australian I forgot it would be 12:30 pm.
You still managed to beat just about every Australian to the punch lol
and March...and 1893... timezones are weird
@@krusnik94 Shouldn't that be 0202?
If we stopped at the first transformers movie that would mean stopping at the one from 1986 and I am more than fine with that
I'm so early that Big Sandwich subscribed to me!
They need to make that Asgardians of the Galaxy movie!
I love how half the topic portion was spent trying to determine the rules
A day early!? Made my night boys. Bloody good show, also can I be the registered Alaskan of the podcast?
Get in line buddy!
Clicked on to see if its the full thing and to my surprise its an early release! You've upset my schedule of listening to you guys on Tuesday mornings! I hope this a one off!
Up at 5:30am for work and I see The Weekly Planet pod has JUST uploaded. Making Mondays somewhat better??!! Absolutely!
Sasha Baron Cohen: "Challenge accepted Mr Sunday"
I'm so early!!!! You guys uploaded just in time for me to grind on my side projects. You guys really motivate me to keep working so I can also get those sweet sweet marvel checks in the future! Hope you and your families are doing well!
"Down with Love" was with Renee Zellweger. By the way, "Catcher Block" is one of my favorite movie character names.
At this point, I'm pretty sure the official title for Neighbours is 'Neighbours: Or is it Home and Away?'
Wait? I was doing stuff and had this playing in the background so I may have missed it. Did they not cover fast and furious?
It’s 1:30 AM, I have to wake up at 6:30 but I’m still gonna watch this
When you think about it, everything in the world started going downhill when GoT Final Season came out.
“I would eliminate all the Bournes except the first one.” Isn’t that what basically happened in those movies? 🤣
I personally really like the Reloaded and Revolutions story. The Matrix in the Matrix theory is lazy and predictable. Plus, the Matrix universe was created with the beginning and the end of the story in mind, which IMO makes the series pretty damn awesome.
If you REALLY get into the sequels, it explains the Matrix into excruciating detail. Neo is actually NOT the one who saves humanity. He is traditionally the catalyst that reboots or "reloads" the matrix for another iteration. The infamous scene where Neo is talking to the architect explains this. The architect has run through every scenario (as exampled in the tv sets). He allows Neo to chose to save humanity or save Trinity. The Architect explains how important introducing choice is, but also at the same time alludes that choice is just smoke & mirrors. In all the past iterations, Neo chose to save humanity, machines destroy Zion, save a few people, chose the next Neo, and reload the Matrix. But the iteration of the Matrix WE see is where Neo chose to save Trinity and doom the human race. This is HUGE because the architect (a computer program) could not even compute Neo to chose Trinity. That's because a computer doesn't understand love. It's computationally incorrect and irrational.
Neo chose Trinity, a variable which has NEVER happened before nor planned for and sets up the scenario of Revolutions... And Revolutions has a plethora of amazing dialogue and really intricate plot and dynamics.
Revolutions is not a revolt against the machines and human finally conquering the machines. It's a revolution in a sense that it's the first time since the machines took over where both compromise and learn to live together. The machines require humans to sustain their life. Agent smith is a literal agent of chaos who is bent on crashing the Matrix. In a way, if you are naive enough to believe that the Matrix is the ultimate evil, you should consider Agent Smith as a protagonist. People who just don't get the sequels think Agent Smith is in the same camp as the machines. You can't be more further from the truth. You HAVE to decouple Agent Smith as an agent of the machines. He essentially goes rogue to "free" himself from the Matrix and creates a virus so huge (where he replicates himself), that machines can't handle him. In doing so, it risks the future of machines and require Neo to "save" the Matrix in return for freeing humans who WANT out.
But because the sequels were NOT as simple as Neo kicking ass in the first one, people shit all over them. The first Matrix shows the Matrix on it's surface. It's a fake world where rules can be bent. The second shows to what extent the rules can be bent. You essentially peek under the covers of the system and are introduced to rogue programs who are bent on survival, just like humans and even the machines. What works in the movie is you see the motive of every SINGLE character. It's basic survival. Humans want to live, programs want to continue to survive through each iteration of the matrix, Agent Smith dares as a computer program to escape the Matrix, Persephone (Merovingian's woman) wants to understand love (which is actually very profound), Architect wants to restore peace, Oracle takes a gamble and plays the ultimate move to trust one thing computers cannot understand. Love.
That's why Revolutions starts out with the two parents and child programs. They are attempting to escape the Matrix to save their daughter. She has no purpose in the Matrix and will be deleted. This shows that even computer programs are learning to love. That's whats so shocking.
The Matrix is really NOT about the battle between Neo and Agent Smith. They LITERALLY cannot defeat each other because they are designed as programs to be an equal and opposite force. All they can do it equal or negate each other out. The REAL struggle is between the Architect and the Oracle.
Guess what. If you hate when movie studios dumb down movies to have a wider appeal to audiences but you also chose to pretend the Matrix sequels didn't happen, I have bad news for you... You're part of the crowd that studios pander to. I am so glad the Wachowski's took the risk.
btw, all of this is coming from memory and may be a bit fuzzy. I might be off on some of the details, but I'm sure others who understood and really enjoyed the sequels will chime in. There's literally DOZENS of us!
I admit I HATED the sequels at first because I just didn't get it. I couldn't FATHOM how bad they were, so I read anything I could to help me understand. So when I go back and watch the movies, I generally have a much better appreciation for them.
I thought it was fascinating that the whole dynamic of looking at original the Matrix basically through Morpheus, where finding the One is the only thing that matters.
It's interesting because you regard Morpheus as all knowing, but by the second movie, he's just dumbfounded as we are. Everything he (and we) have known about the Matrix is in one way or another, not true.
You find out in the Reloaded that the One's true purpose is to "reload" the Matrix and not to save humanity. The fact that Neo has "superhero" powers is NOT because he's the One... The One doesn't grant him extra power, contrary to Morpheus' fallacy.
He's basically another program that understands the code and what can be bent. In the sequels, he's fighting other programs who also understands how to manipulate the Matrix.
It CLEARLY stated these things, yet completely flew over a majority of people's heads. Some even question WHY the Architect scene was put in there when I would argue, it's the pivotal point where the scales fall off your eyes and you truly see the role of Neo and every character.
But the One who is supposed to save humanity, but was designed by the Architect to essentially doom humanity, ends up saving humanity... so at the end... Morpheus was right all along!
From u/devidual on reddit.
All you need to know to discredit the Matrix inside a Matrix theory is that Nostalgia Critic likes it, which means it must be massively lame idea.
TLDR
What?
It’s barely 9:45 pm where I am at
Do you reckon you could make a Trini cricket team?
Can someone post a link to the Grate M8s version of Princess Bride please? I can't find it.
It's OK, I found it. Ta.
czcams.com/video/rlLpNjaajsM/video.html
Question for Maso: Have you seen the animated Highlander series and the anime 'Highlander: The Search For Vengeance'?
1st time I watched Anchorman 2 I thought meh. 2nd time I thought actually this is pretty damn funny. 3rd time I realised it's just better than the first (for me)! Recommend you guys go at it again!
Aye! Keep posting now, it works for my ride home so 😂
Wow, Mr Sunday movies is actually living up to his name for once. Great, now what will I look forward to on my commute for work in the morning?
It's probably a scheme to get you to listen to it again.
I bought a used Path Of Neo and the disc was scrached so it always crashed in the second movies beginning.
You have to keep Highlander for the series. Also so that Adrian Paul’s ballet choreographer teacher character from Season 8 of Murder She Wrote can be the Highlander also in my head canon.
Feel like Dune is in the same space that Lord of the Rings was in. Not that many people really knew about Lord of the Rings except as "that book my brother/father read in the 70's" or "that strange movie(s) from 30 years ago". It's got about the same chances of being successful if they market it right.
@MrSundayMovies Last Week Tonight with John Oliver has a great show about the situation in Westchina in case you want an informative summary.
I wouldn't trust a commie to be honest about what goes on in China
Late night weekly planet, nothing to complain about
I’m not from Trinidad but I did once watch England vs Trinidad and Tobago football match live. I claim this counts 🇹🇹
Woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah, yeah okay whatever, you can have it, we’ll give you a pass 😂🤣 loving this whole Trinidad bit 👏🏽
51:00 - I wouldn't have gotten the awesome CGI Series Roughnecks(1999) or the game Starship Troopers: Terrain Ascendancy(200) - One of the best games I have ever played that needs to be re-released - and the Animated Movies more recently are a lot of fun. Starship Troopers 2 was really the only one that was super weak.
@@ThreadBomb Did you ever get to play Terrain Ascendancy? I need someone to prove it wan't just me!
I can't wait for the new T-shirts
"It's nearly impossible to get me to say the N word"
-Mr. Sunday Movies
You've made my Monday afternoon great, you will also make my Tuesday morning crap because I've already watched this
woooooooow thank you guys for this early release ...love it
There should have been a rule that eliminating all the spinoffs allowed a modern day reboot/sequel/spinoff to be made and then a coin flip determines whether we get a good or bad one. But personally I'm fine with just releasing everything and then choosing whether to watch or not watch the spinoffs. I can very easily just compartmentalise a bad film but sometimes a good one sneaks through.
Jesus, was the house on fire and you only had seconds to upload it? It's a good thing I'm an insomniac!?
The video upload beat the Spotify upload. It's the end times.
Need special rules for Batman. If the 4 “Burtonverse” Batmen are their own Batman microcosm, then I might eliminate the 3 after Batman ‘89. I like Batman Returns, but it’s a sacrifice I’d make to avoid Forever/&Robin.
I feel that Hellraiser 2 is a little better than the first. They do get incredibly bad after that though. It's a bit like the Terminator series, actually.
Another classic from the boys, thanks for the laughs, you make work move more quickly.
Here's something. I wanted to check on something regarding The Equalizer. The movies with Denzel Washington don't have a tonne in common with the series where he'd be all sneaky and leverage something to help the client (similar to the TV show Leverage oddly enough) where the films were about Denzel just beating the crap out of people. On my journey I discovered there's a new series upcoming for CBS and Queen Latifah is playing The Equalizer. I like her but she seems like an odd choice for the role no matter which way they play it.
So do you think it’s worth it for Mortal Combat 11? A game you don’t have?
I'm sure the Obi Wan thing will be fine, but I really want Liam Neeson to do some more Star Wars stuff before he's too old. I don't want another Alden Ehrenreich situation
Am I crazy for liking Dead Mans Chest more? the Dutchman is badass
2 is my favorite pirates I thing Davy Jones is a beter villain
Those mysteries are why I hate Abrams and his mystery boxes. It's not real wonder or audience engagement but cheap promises.
Pretty early, didnt even have to subscribe to Big Sandwich
Art attack is prime british childrens entertainment, i'll be showing it to my future kids along w Morph, The Trapdoor & Iron Giant
I think that Ewan Mcgregors black mask should come back, he didnt need to die like that
Common complaint I have for comic book movies is killing the antagonist every* time
*almost
16:49 "Down with Love" was with Renée Zellweger and McGregor's incredulous reaction at the end of the BIG reveal had us in stitches.
czcams.com/video/dcmN6yG0-a0/video.html
Don't disagree with you guys very often but getting rid of the Bourne sequels? They were awesome! And I'd personally keep the Taken sequels because I enjoyed the Netflix series. They cast a younger actor meaning unlike the sequels there aren't 15 cuts when Bryan Mills has to... do anything.
Hangover 3 has one of the funniest moments in the world😂 I love the flashback scene where Alan buys drugs from black doug lol
The Green Book was filmed in my town, and I worked security for it. I met Viggo Mortensen and Mahershala Ali in the miniscule town jail we have. I am a fairly large guy, but I was dumbstruck by those two because I didn't want them to think I'm some idiotic country boy.
I will like it and comment but can't watch till tomorrow. You guys rock!
ayeeeeeee its my internet fathers
My mirror was covered in toothpaste water after James said he would tell Borat to "FUCK OFF" if he started acting goofy towards him. That shit caught be so off guard while brushing my teeth but I completely agree that I would tell him the same thing. 😂😂😂
Very surprised you boys don't like Bourne Supremacy and Ultimatium.
Yeah very disappointed to hear that too, diminishing returns my arse, they got better as the trilogy progressed. One of if not the most perfect trilogy out there, my feeling is they haven't watched them in a long while, time for a reappraisal.
@@ThreadBomb Jason Borne was ok, unnecessary but worth a watch
Super early!!!!
Making up for not releasing a sunday vid.
Never mind the pronunciation of "Dune", you should talk about your pronunciation of "assume".
Would you also get rid of the Ghost Busters TV show?
I think if Ragnarok hadn't made the character of Thor interesting he would've been done. The first 2 were just kind of there. The first 2 Avengers films didn't have much for him to do either. I got the impression he was bored when he talked about those. Ragnarok didn't feel like the third in a trilogy. It was more a soft reboot. Kevin Feige would be crazy to drop the character as well since he's more popular than even and is the only original Avenger still in the game. Hulk pending injury status. With all these new characters and Secret Invasion coming up they need Thor to keep audiences coming in.
The Robocop Prequel Series!
Brought to you by the producers of the Aunt May movie and the Pennyworth Series.
Was I out of the room getting booze without pausing when you mentioned the Predator franchise?
Its still Sunday Mason, what are ya doin man?!
Another good name for sequels to replace the cruise control line would be “the squeakquel”. Like The Godfather part 2: The Squeakquel
How are you this early, it is barely Monday, America time
When're we getting the sequel to Salmon Fishing in the Yemen?
Cruise Control
Big Night is one of my all time faves!
The walking Dead has vastly improved over the last two season. Season 9 and 10 are some of the best the series has ever made. It gives me high hopes for the ending of the show. A new showrunner took over in season 9, Angela Kang. She was given the show once Carl died, when half the fanbases dissapeared, two lead Andrew Lincoln and Lauran cohan wanted out and still manage to turn into the best show has ever been.
Everything you just said is correct. S9 might be my favourite season
nope, and nope.
Speaking of reviving other Ewan McGregor characters, I want a sequel to Perfect Sense. I won't spoil it, but if you've seen it, you'll know how absurd that would be.
also i think it makes more sense to litigate the transformers movies for their effect on mega giant blockbusters, maybe good marvel wouldn't have happened if transformers 1 didnt happen idk
The names Sunday
JAMES SUNDAY
Oh man can you guys please do all the pirates movies for caravan of Garbage!!
A Life Less Ordinary is a good Ewan McGregor movie everyone should watch.
WHAAAAAA? Ultimatum is the best one of the Bourne movies
This is actually a really good video
This is actually NOT a video. It is audio played over a static image with ads interspersed. j/k
I would not eliminate the MIB films, I enjoyed the sequels.
I would eliminate all but the first one of the Ice Age
You forgot the John Belushi chugging Jack in the College shirt poster that was on every college wall in the 00's.
Can't leave out Fight Club.
16:06 Alex from Shallow Grave somehow manages to unpin himself from the floor.
The episode where JAmes and Maso came up with a convoluted system of rules that really wasn’t that difficult (would you erase all the sequels or is there something good enough in one or two of them to justify the whole bloated franchise) and then proceed to spend more time talking about the rules, adding and taking things from them, forgetting them completely, and talking the logic to death about the endless butterfly effect of things that wouldn’t exist if the hellraiser sequels didn’t exist, than they spend talking about the movies that they made the rules up to talk about to being with, and the topic crumbles into dozens of tiny pieces under a mushroom-shaped plume of dust, further evincing what we all have known for months is true: we need new movies to talk about.
Hey hangover 2,3 aren't bad. They are almost as good as 1 imo.
Damn, the Bois are early!
You can't get rid of the Friday the 13th sequels because if you did, you'd get rid of Jason as most people know him. He wasn't in the first movie and didn't even get his iconic mask until Part 3.
What happened to the movie where Chris Hemsworth was going to be Hulk Hogan ?
Speed 3: It's a self driving bus this time
They remembered Jaws. Real cool. Not unsubscribed
The first 3 Bournes are all great. I veto your decision.
You should have gone highbrow and discussed 2001 and 2010. Or go lowbrow: Machete and Machete Kills. And I am still waiting for Machete Kills... In Space!!!!!
The Chinese public were worried about Mulan for the last couple of years. Apparently Liu Yifei is regarded as a terrible actress.
Is this allowed