We Missed This Really HUGE Detail in The Bad Batch Season 3! (Star Wars Theory)
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- The Bad Batch Season 3 Episode 11 Point of No Return showed us CX-2 - the clone assassin who might prove Tech is alive. He has Crosshair similarities too and in this Star Wars theory we explore this as well as the possibility that Omega is force-sensitive and the importance of Batcher!
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0:00 CX-2 Sounds and Acts like Tech! Big Details From S3E11!
4:20 Omega, The Force and The Importance of Batcher!
8:00 Outro - Zábava
"I know what I'm doing, it's called strategy!"
It can be a Crosshair clone or Tech or Cody. Or just a new experiment.
I do think Tech had heroic death and should rest in peace.
Omega also did give Batcher tasty food, that is sometimes all you need to get a furry friend.
Sometimes this clone CX2 reminds me to Marrok, like being a zombie without thinking, although it feels very cruel to the beloved character of Tech. Perhaps it's part of that darkness people that already saw the final talk about. Or perhaps it's an experiment run in secret combinating DNA from several members of the batch...Anyways I'm crossing fingers wishing him not being Tech, cause would be very cruel to him, his brothers...and sister :(
What if she could reach out to Batcher and Cungi could connect with Batcher, thus being able to find Tantiss?????
That was exactly what I thought. Crosshair gave her his com/tracker. 🧠
CX Troopers are clones of Starkiller, thus all Marrok!!!
Everyone has a connection to the Force. Some are stronger than others, or as Luke said, Some people are born with the door wide open. Others have to find out how to open it. Some people only find one ability, as in Force Collector.
Sux if that’s Tech, cause he fell to his death. Let him have a noble ending.
I'm less convinced CX-2 is Tech after these episodes. He needed to track down Cid and squeeze Phee's name out of her, and then hack Phee's nav computer to locate Pabu. Tech already knew all of those things.
I think it's a cross hair clone
I agree, Tech lived on Pabu for like a year and I highly doubt the Empire would mind wipe him before getting the location.
@@ChaseWright516that’s what I was gonna say, the dialect sounds close in certain parts.
Being a Crosshair clone could explain the psychological damage done to him as well, and if he can’t remember well.
I’d wager the more unique looking assassin clone would be him if they were to bring him back
I never thought at 52 i would be so invested in an animated series. Gonna hate to see it end.
Same
There needs to be a show dedicated to all of us original Star Wars fans called The Old Batch
Yo!! I'm 45 kid!!! Word up... But, F it, keep the kid in you!!! If only this the way!!
@@alonsollosa very true. Lol
@@alonsollosa 😂🤣
When Omega asked about her M-count being high, Ventress' answer was basically, 'I've not seen any indication of it, but the Empire has you targeted over high m-count levels.' It was like saying, 'The Empire must know something about you that I don't.'
Wrecker and Hunter accused Ventress of lying, and she asked, "About which part?" Observing several times earlier, how tight-knit the 4 clones are, Ventress describes the separation that would occur between them if they kept pursuing the issue. She wanted them to just leave the entire issue alone. The "lie" was EVERYTHING. Those "tests" can't determine your m-count levels. All 3 are training exercises given to people who are already known to be Force-sensitive. Grogu failed 2 of those "tests," and we know he's Force-sensitive. Ventress deliberately misled Omega, hoping to put the question out of Omega's mind and keep that family together. The "tests" were the lie. Ventress didn't have a family, and she's hoping to keep this one together, warning them many times to leave the entire issue alone. Ventress came to the planet with that message; gave Omega 3 fake tests, hoping that a negative result would shut down the issue. Then she gave Clone Force 99 a reason to forget the issue.
Omega also connected with Ruby, Roland’s pet. He said Ruby “doesn’t like anyone.”
Don't forget the moon dragon that ate electricity. Omega calmed it down. Another wild animal Omega connected with
We are also forgetting one major point - Omega has never lost a strategy type of game since season 1. In Episode four of season 3 we saw her playing cards and was able beat everyone of her opponents every time. Also in season 1 she accurately shot Crosshair in the hand when she fired a blaster for the first time.
You know, it looked like Hunter came up on shore where the cave is. Wouldn't it be interesting to find out he stowed away on the CX-2 ship before it remotely left the cave to pick up the Operative and Omega?
hmmm.
I don't see how CX-2 could be a clone of any of the batch, unless it was a secret project started years before. The clones have advanced aging, but they still require many years to grow to adulthood. And even if you imagine extra-accelerated aging for these clones, it would still take years to train them to this heightened degree. No matter how specialized genetics, they're still human beings who require training, practice, and experience to have any skills at all, let alone an elite skillset. So basically, the tech/crosshair or full bad-batch clone theory only works if it's another secret Nala Se experiment begun many years ago.
I’ve studied the 3 tests that Ventress performed on Omega. I think Omega passed all 3!
Test1: Omega did actually hold the pose and posture for a time at the end. But notice Ventress flicked her wrist and Omega fell over at the end.
Test2: Obviously accomplished. But I think this test was only for the benefit of Wrecker and Hunter.
Test3: 2 species were called to the surface. I believe Omega’s CURRENTLY weak connection to the force had an impact on the response of the school of fish. I think the Turtle beast was definitely called by Ventress and her unease/discomfort with the light side of the force, perhaps Ventress is still a student of Quinlan Voss at this time, and being helpful so Voss doesn’t have to work in the open.
Lots of interesting elements to chew on. I enjoy the commentary Meg. Keep up the good content!
If cx-2 is tech, why would he need to sneak onto Phee’s ship? Tech had been to Pabu.
Possible mind wipe because of whatever process was used to condition him into cx-2. That is, IF it's Tech.
My thought exactly, and why would he need to interrogate Cyd to learn about Phee?
@@jonathanlittle9674yeah I feel like the reason the empire wouldn’t try and find that stuff out first would be because he was in critical condition and touter could kill him or they assumed the batch was going from place to place
Partial memory wipe? The trauma and injuries from the fall making it possible for Hemlock to turn him? CX-2 Torturing Cid, but not harming Phee. Remembering Omega but not Pabu.
Hemlock rebuilding him as a monster is very plausible.
I think the controls of all ships in Star Wars are similar. This would be a selling point for the manufacturers. "If you buy our ship, retraining your pilots would be minimal. They can quickly come up to speed and be flying very soon. No need to pay for extensive retraining."
Anybody else catch that the theme that played when CX-2's ship flew away was the same theme that played when Tech fell to his supposed death?! 🤔
No you’re not crazy Meg, when CX2 said ‘domicile’ I screamed “OH MY GOSH ISNT THAT WHAT TECH SAID”
I like the idea of CX-2 being a combination clone of Tech and Crosshair. It would make sense to take the characteristics of both clones. I agree about Omega being force sensitive whether she can be a Jedi or not, she does have some of the insights and abilities.
Tech would need massive memory loss after his death to not remember that Omega was on Pabu. I highly doubt the Empire would mind wipe him without first extracting every ounce of information about Clone Force 99.
He is a combo of all the bad batch imo. He has hunters tracking and leadership qualities, he has wreckers tendencies to blow things up and be aggressive in tactics, and is clearly smart and technically savvy like tech.
As well as the sniping ability of crosshair. He is a clear combination of the entire bad batch
I doubt it, only crosshair was tested on, so how could cx 2 be a mix of all of them?.
@@Theworldisscrewedthe bad batch genome is already known, just needs splicing.
@@Theworldisscrewedthink about this obviously the batch are generation 1 clones like Rex and Cody meaning when the kaminoins created them they had access to that dna then so they could have said after the batch were seen in action holy crap these guys are good what if we combined them into a super clone and bang they could start making one also it could have been started on kamino but then moved to tantus later on because tantus existed during season two that’s where they cloned the zillio beast like palpatine said too so even before he became the emperor he had plans he didn’t tell anyone about so they could have grown this clone x there
@@Shadowraider521 if they had the dna of the bad batch why didnt tarkin tell them to make more of the mutated clones in season 1 episode 1 after being told theres only 5 of them?
I also thought it is Tech . They showed his glasses in this episode for a reason. Gosh , I so enjoy watching bad batch and still marvel about how detailed and beautiful the animation is done. Can't wait for another animated Feloni project.❤❤❤
I think the assassin is Tech. Tech "died" for a reason plot-wise, and it's more than that squad members can be lost. As for Omega being captured (4th capture), all I could think was, "What is Crosshair going to tell Hunter????"
Another animal Omega connected with was...Wrecker
In episode 5 there's a scene where Cross sounds identical to Tech while shouting down to Hunter. It seemed odd at the time but they were probably establishing that those 2 can sound like eachother
Another small detail that hints towards CX-2 being Tech is periodically CX-2 tends to walk with a limp.
What if CX2 was the original CrossHair... and the CrossHair we've been watching is a malfunctioning clone....hence the missed shots...
OK I know, that's most likely not the case.... but if the original CrossHair was still in the "good soldiers follow orders" state of mind. And had a clone scared with memories just to infinite the batch.. it would be crazy
According to Legends, when clones were given even more accelerated aging going from a baby to a young adult in the span of 1 year, they went insane and the project was scrubbed. Also, give the fact that it's specifically stated in the show that these agents' minds are wiped, I don't think he's a clone of Crosshair. I think it's Tech. I also don't think it's Cody as he has the generic clone haircut and no face tattoos to distinguish him from regular troopers. It wouldn't be as big of a face reveal.
Maybe because Tech is neuro-atypical, his mind might have been more susceptible to the mind wipe/reprogramming. Besides, Nala Se created TBB clones and might have known how to tweak the protocol to effectively reprogram Tech. Just a theory…
I've been saying since CX-2 appeared. That is Tech's voice under that modulation. He seems to move like Tech. But why would Tech need to interrogate Sid to learn about Fi. Then need to track her to find Pabu? He knows where it is.
Maybe Tech was so badly damaged in the fall, they had to rebuild him with cyborg parts, including some of his brain. Maybe infused with a little Crosshair for good measure.
100% Tech because he also cracked the incription so fast and easy
If CX2 is either of the bizarre theories you have talked about, I for one would be very disappointed. to me it just doesn't make sense for it to be a clone of Crosshair or hybrid as I think you mentioned. If the assassin is Tech he would've known about Phee and for one Dee Bradley Has said he considers Tech dead.
I think Omega has got something up her sleeve literally, probably another tracker or some other way for them to track her, she pretty cunning and would know that it was a possibility that Crosshair might not be successful with shooting the tracker.
There was an indication of her meditating or trying to connect with Ventress using the force at the end of the episode, either way she has a plan I just know it.
If this is Tech, then he's playing role. It'd be crazy if he fell into a deep cover type of situation. A plan he devised and didn't share with anyone.
Please don’t be Tech just let him be a new bad guy and not someone we already know
Omega is going to use her biolocating meditation abilities to connect with crossheirs.
As stress and the need to reach out is here.
I personally think Hunter is hidden somewhere on the CX-2’s ship. Last we see Hunter he was down by the cave where he landed his ship. After Hunter found Batcher we didn’t see him after that. So I don’t think Omega will make it to Tantiss. Hunter will intervene. Take over the ship which will give them the coordinates to Mt. Tantiss. I could be wrong though, it’s just the feeling I get. Also, I still don’t think CX-2 is tech. Cody maybe, but we’ll have to wait and see.
You could be right given that be the plot twist to finding out CX-2 is Tech and Omega flipped him like she did Crosshair.
So does this mean boba would have a higher M count ? Would this make him more desirable to the empire?
I love Tech and want him back, but not as a CX operative. That's just heartbreaking.
All these hints that are pointing towards Tech as CX-2, I never really thought about it until now. It could very well be him.
Think omega had 2 tracking devices on herself. Crosshair knew they would scan but they didn't do a 2nd scan to make sure they got all of them. If not its up to emeree to save omega.
They better give Tech respect and leave him dead. If they brought him back that would be bad.
Hi Meg... I do not think CX2 is Tech... If it was Tech, he would not have had to steal the coordinates to Paboo from Phee. He already knew where the place was at. My guess is he is Cody, if anyone from the past at all.
I felt that it was tech from the beginning. Not only did he use certain words but also the”matter of fact” way in which he spoke. The mannerisms has confirmed in my mind that this is tech or a clone of him.
0:43 First thing I thought about the tracker(s).
I'm thinking Omega has a 2nd tracker and she ate it. Its now in her body and can be easily removed.
Here's a thought... what if this wasn't the rise of the Clone Rebellion, but instead, the rise of the Path? I don't quite know the timeline between Asajj's death, and the formation of the Path. But... maybe?
I do not think it's tech. I believe tech is dead. But there could be some tech dna in there as well as crosshair.
On the SAME DAY that Omega showed Crosshair how to meditate, you immediately recognized that she's been doing what the Wookie Jedi taught her to do. When she does it again only 2 or 3 weeks later, the FIRST thing that came to mind is, 'She looks like she's tapping into the Force.' How do you get 2 different FIRST reactions from only 1 action? 😅
CX is likely a combination of all the bad batch’s DNA/abilities once they capture them. That sounds like something the Empire would do and the skills he’s shown make sense. I’m betting Batcher will die and then the new CX trooper will have that added ability and face-off against the heroes. Either that or it’s just a straight up clone of Crosshair with force-sensitive blood integrated.
Is it possible that Jenga was related to a Dathomir witch? They were rumored to be able to ride the rancor, which both Omega and Bobba have done.
Meg, you have great speculations. CARRY ON.💪👌😊
Thanks Meg👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I’m telling you-with all the children who have been central to the stories in the Star Wars universe lately, and Skeleton Crew to come, I think Quinlan Vos is going to show up at some point soon, especially since Asajj Ventress has made an appearance. Speculation, of course, but it sounds like a good opportunity for him to make an appearance.
It can't be a clone of tech or cross hair because the timeline for growth would not make any sense, his voice is modulated which is why he sounds the same as cx-1. It's more than likely a known clone or cody.
So I have been rewatching season 3 and noticed there are numerous "Emery's", and prisoner clones. Where are all the force sensitive experiments? Also they kept focusing on the DNA sequence equipment and you could actually see some of the chain codes, so I think the CX program is hemlock trying to see if he can actually create clones, same with the multiple female clones, hemlock trying to replicate Omega himself. I think the CX operatives are just more advanced 99 attempts by hemlock. Now as far as Omega being force sensitive I truly think she summoned the giant sea monster because Assaj was genuinely surprised, and she is well trained and not regularly prone to overshooting her powers, it would be a first, so I think she lied to not just protect Omega from a force users fate, but making her and the clones believe she isn't a force user keeps everyone else safe because if she did summon the creature she's very strong in the force. Seeing as she's not in any of the material afterwards I'm very curious to see how this all wraps up regardless of her attitude for the force
I’m thinking this is a clone that has all the traits of the batch. He’s a sharp shooter like crosshair, smart like tech (domicile and decoding encryption), strong like wrecker (he seems to be able to overpower most fights like his fight with crosshair), and possibly has senses like hunter (he’s a lot more aware of his surroundings)z
Until this episode I was starting to wonder if cx2 might be Cody, but the 'domicile' thing is a big hint
I love cross hair, such a cool character, nice arc
I just noticed Emarie sounds like an older Omega
bruh please tell me this is a joke lol
@@user-xs7zc6ud8n I'm late to the party.. But yeah when she was talking.. I'm like that sounds like Omega
Emerie is an older clone of Omega
Bro she is omegas sister
It’s even weirder to think she’s probably the original clone of jango cause she’s just like omega a female clone of jango who wasn’t aged faster and she’s probably around 20 at this point so she was around ten at the beginning of the war and now she’s probably 20 at the end just interesting to think
Hi Meg, awesome news update, I agree I think he could be a mixture of the BB, with his speed, shooting, and voice , and I think Omega will have some force ability but needs more training to bring it out and I hope Ventriss will train her, thank you SWM
I feel like he’s the 8th member of the bad batch who was never shown. Remember, omega was the first, then 99,hunter, wrecker, tech, crosshair, Emory, and cx2. There were 11 pods in the season final in the bad batch season 1 in nala se’s lab. 3 members are yet to be shown
I do think the assassins are clones of Cross Hair. His voice in this episode was so close I had to do a double take. How long does it take to grow a clone though? From the time that Cross Hair leaves the Batch till now- is that enough time for them to do this? Remember when in Episode 1 they took Cross Hair and strengthened his chip? Wonder if they did more than that to him?
I'm not sure it wasn't Omega that summoned the vratheon.
I too hear different accents at different times. Sometimes CX2 sounds like Tech, then there were a couple of times he sounded just like Crosshair and other times when he sounds like neither. Confused as hell.
They’re deliberately trying to throw us off and they are massively succeeding🫠
Thanks Meg! Impatience for Victory will Guarantee Defeat
CX-2 is a combo of Tech and Crosshair, and he's wearing a puppy mask
I still really hope Tech is dead. Wouldn't it be horrible if Hemlock used Tech's body to make some sort of dark trooper zombie prototype and the rest of the batch has to put him down again.
Tech knew were Pabu was. If CX2 was Tech then he wouldn't need to find out where the Batch was, he'd already know.
Dont forget the animal that Sid wanted when she said "maybe he wants it as pet or maybe he wants to eat it!! Don't know! Don't care!" I forgot i what Omega named that lizard or whatever it was?
The fight dialogue between CX-2 and Crosshair at the waterfall struck me as significant first time I saw it. My mind immediately went to Tech, thinking the dialogue referred to Crosshair choosing the Empire over the BB WAY BACK IN SEASON 1. I’m 50/50 on the Tech train. I wouldn’t be surprised if Tech is actually still marinating in one of those CX clone tanks. Hemlock referred to the other CX clones not being ready yet.
I am sorry, but at this point I do not believe there is reasonable doubt (close your eyes and listen to Teck say "when have we ever fallowed orders" they are the same voice, its the context that makes the difference.)
He obviously has some sort of amnesia, probably from the trauma of the fall (like CC5576-39) otherwise he just would have remembered Pabu, perhaps that is why he was able to be bran washed. In any case I think the reveal will be next, however, it probably goes sideways and they never make it to Tantiss.
Ooh I didn’t think about amnesia, I don’t think anyone has ever brought that up before in a theory video
I more think he was in critical condition from tbe fall if he’s alive hemlock then took this chance while he was incapacitated to then brain wipe him of memories and train him because if they would have tried to get anything out of him so near to death he would have probably died
Thank you for your great content... we pretty much have coffee together every morning 😂😂
Maybe Omega did call the turtle like sea creature. Ventress said she didn’t call it intentionally. I’m going to have to watch the last 2 and pay closer attention to ventress testing Omega. CX2 just might be a Tech clone or a brainwashed regenerated Tech.
Omega needs her own series, where she become a force user, preferably wlive action.
Crosshair missing rates right up there with Legolis missing that orc in Lord of the Rings
If it is Tech, will Omega figure it out on the ride to Tantis?
Well if it’s Tech behind the mask then it’s gonna be very difficult and emotional for a lot of us.
The only fault with the argument that CX-2 is Tech is the fact he had to infiltrate the pirate's ship at all. If it was Tech, with his knowledge intact, he would not have needed that intel at all as he already knew where his friends were hiding. The only way to square that would be if the process to convert him involved removing or blocking all his personal memories leaving behind only his technical knowledge and combat training. Regarding CX-2 being a new clone of Crosshair, Tech, or a combination of the two, that wouldn't make sense either as it takes way too long to grow one to adulthood. At most, only a year (and I think it's less but I didn't count Omega's hashmarks in her cell) has passed since Tech's "death", nowhere near enough time to grow and train an adult clone. If they sped up the aging of the new clone, they'd lose the main benefit of the original cloning process which was the intensive 9 years of training. With that short of a training regimen, these "sped up" clones wouldn't be any more competent than a TK trooper and they'd only have, at best, two years of combat usefulness before they are physically about 50 years old. Not a very economical program with their apparent low rate of clone production (only one effective version of CX-2 has been produced).
Omega is un-altered clone of Jango fett just like Boba fett, I think we will see her in Boba show again with Brother and Sister bond or some other rebels/Ashoka series Omega was in contact with Rex and Rex has contact with Ashoka. or the Mandalorian series as she has Mandalorian lineage from Jango and can relate to Grogu as both of them will be Mandalorian force wielders.
Cloner 1: We can't get any clones that hold an m count! Cloner 2: Have you tried cloning someone other than Jango? (Mind bloooowwn) Omega is a clone of Obi wan. He was on Kamino
@@BenWillyumstime line doesn’t match up cause she’s thirteen in the show the clone war’s was three years she was ten when it started and she’s unaltered meaning she must have been a generation 1 clone so if she was and unaltered clone of obiwan she would be 3
Sounded like tech when omega was being marched onto the dark clones ship
Tech already knew the location Pabu.
Yes I agree! He's one of them BB clones. Thank you
Seems more likely that the assassins are clones using manipulated dna strands from each of the Bad Batch, not just Tech and Crosshair but Wrecker and Hunter as well
I hope it's Tech. Would be a dramatic reveal. Maybe Omega could connect with him and bring him out of his brainwashed state.
Cx-2 is NOT a clone of Crosshair. He IS Crosshair. The one we think is Crosshair is ACTUALLY the clone (or clone of a clone, technically). This is why his hand shakes. The original Crosshair has been brainwashed.
This would be great writing!
It's Tech, what a twist!
Remember the 1st CX was trying to kill Senator Chuchi in the the "Clone Conspiracy" episode which would this one the 3rd. Just sayin.
I still think CX-2 is Tech. Or what was left of him after that massive fall. First thing he says is "Why have I been activated?" so maybe he's mostly droid with a few bits of Tech? Assassins needing to be activated makes me think of Eversor assassins that need to be kept in stasis between mssions
Fergot to mention about cx2 team mates that wasnt able go join him
Omega was also friends with the pet she named Ruby in infested
... hmmm ...
have heard both Tech 'n Crosshair in my pods palyist listenin' tho ... it's still Early yet. we're only a day after Eps 10 'n 11 ... there'll be more comin' yer fer me to listen to.
IMO ? I like the Crosshair theory.
CX-2 sounded most like Crosshair however, closely followed by Tech. I’m definitely leaning towards a clone with attributes of both. I’m excited to find out though, these were some of the very best animated episodes ever created. Matter of fact I’ll go further and say that they’re some of the best episodes ever created, live-action or animated.
Good day Meg. You did leave out her empath abilities from season one first few episodes when they’re sitting in the cell. and cx-2 implies that there is or was a cx-1
She snuck the animal food…that’s how they bonded, not thru the Force!!!
I think Nala Se's comment to Karr was interesting. Karr says she doesn't have the power, and Nala Se saying - Don't you? Makes me wonder if Nala Se has been loading up Omega with what she will need to survive. She has had her for years and for many weeks on Tantis - I would like to think that she has been goosing Omega's M count, hoping that she could learn to tap into it and pull off some serious force moves by the last episode
All these theories are awesome. No matter who is who or where they end up...I smell heartbreak on the horizon in this finale.😪🍷
I don’t think it’s Tech (or at least original Tech) because CX-2 didn’t recognize the mayor of Pabu. Tech had met the mayor before.
I think the connection with creatures may be a stretch . As the 'dog' ( I have been drinking an the name escapes me 😂) , reacts kindly too other characters in Omegas absence. If the 'dog' was wild but Omegas force abilities ' Calmed the savage beast ' then surely in her absence it would revert back to wild state. Bit like a befriended stray cat would. But I've had a few jaegers what do I know?
It may just be me but CX-2 seems thinner and shorter than the other assassins. Perhaps by looking at the character models more closely we can compare tech's sizes to that of CX-2's?
Tho, there are a lot of Tech references in all these episodes. Tho a cloned Crosshair? That's what they are doing as well as Necromancer project? Maybe...
His speech pattern, especially in this past episode, has convinced me that CX-2 is a hybrid of the two clones that the Empire have had their hands on since Hemlock entered the picture: Crosshair and Tech.
I still don't believe that Omega is Force sensitive, but her affinity with animal communication has me conflicted.
It's already been confirmed that she's force sensitive, you need Yoda to show up at your house or what?
Does anyone think we’ll see Sid again?
Probably
CX2 is a mirror of all the bad batch, and better.