What was the TESLA powered Formula D CAMARO like to drift?
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- čas přidán 4. 04. 2021
- @Travisreeder I just want to say thank you for this interview!
They should rename the Camaro the "El Camaro". That is short for electric Camaro. This video is about the Tesla drivetrain swapped Camaro in Formula D, and what it was like. The teething pains, the good parts, the bad parts, and what the team wants to talk about. I think the whole thing is super fascinating, especially since so much that is done with drift cars is just a rehash of stuff from 20 plus years ago. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
the thing with electric motors is you can infinitely control the motor.. you can have a button that makes the tires spin at any speed or rpm instantly. you can even have a lever that makes the car pivot. you don't even need a handbrake.. you can literally decide what control you need and what you'd like to do and have a button or a dial for it.. got to get out of your mind the traditional way to control it.. its new paradigm... start from scratch...design new moves,, design new controls...
Waste of time. Need motors and batteries that can handle rapid and harsh charge/discharge cycles (~3 mins battery at drift extremes), as well as the same level of speed/grip as the gas cars
Travis Reeder is rad & a good driver.
I do not like EV.
Many people do , because we live in an age where people prefer having an alternative opinion.
First of all, the tech is not very new. What's possible now was also possible in 1990. Brushless has been around for 50+ years, EV cars for 110 years. Tesla's "breakthrough" was using more batteries to get more range. Which is no breakthrough, putting a larger gastank in a Hummer is the same thing.
But why I really dislike EV , is because I'm from Europe. Here, EU governments are using insane amounts of tax money to push EV. In my country, there isn't even sufficient power to get 4% of all cars on EV. It would cost 50% of our GDP to change that (roughly 450 billion) and then its not even green energy (which is now 10% netto of all energry sold here). These governments use EV to outlaw combustion cars.
They will use EV to cancel out motorsports. You can say "it won't happen" but it already is happening, with major manufacturers pulling out of rallying and endurance to do EV crap.
Soon, racetracks will only be permitted EV cars. This way, people will swallow it. Banning racecars overnight would cause too much protest, so the coming years will be used to replace ICE with EV.
EV is still bizarrely dangerous, with spontaneous fires caused by thermal runaway, turning entire parking lots to ashes, impossible to put out unless the car is submerged in a 20ft container of water.
These problems will only increase.
Also imagine, 250 of these cars charging in your neighbourhood. Even if 0.1% developed a problem, its serious.
With America getting back on track with the ludicrous Trojan Horse Paris Climate Accord, this stands to happen in USA aswell.
Alternatives such as biodiesel, LPG and ethanol are being laughed away and ignored, because governments have made their deal with EV.
They love the idea of control; they can switch off your EV at any time if you don't meet their requirements.
We must oppose EV and not be naive. This is a vessel that governments will use to outlaw Corvettes, S13's, AE86's diesel trucks etc.
We are doing a video on this, get readu
@@LoneStarDrift anytime
Well said i wish E85 would get the support it deserves in europe.
@@gregorment9524 E85 and many other options
Amen brother! Happy to see people who actually invest time and research things. People here are brainwashed into stupidity. And I thought Idiocracy was a really funny movie back then. Boy o boy how wrong I was.
This interview with Travis was awesome. I can't wait for the PNW drift week!!! PARC is gonna be nuts!! Amazing content. Love what you guy's are putting out for the community. Keep it up.
sounds like a Rich Rebuilds project...... lol never thought i would tie Drifting and Rich into the same comment LOL
YESYESYES!!!!
Its a good idea but yeah needs alot more development and software designed for drift sequential box.
I think Ford actually is the best positioned to make an electric drift car. They could partner with RTR and develop a car using the power train from the 1400 fiesta. All manufacturers stock price right now is driven off of the EV line up. Why not invest in an EV drift car in formula D? It would help show that Ford is committed to the EV lineup in the future. They have the budget and they have the team to help develop it on a championship platform. Re-engineering the suspension wouldn’t have to be done other than some spring rates. They also made that 9 second drag mustang so battery placement and management has been at least looked at.
I love the concept. Great job Travis.
Ford will be the first imo. But doesn't chev already sell an electric replacement for LS engine that uses a t56 box makes 700 elecoponies... I'm sure I seen it on some sites
To much good content i can't keep up busting a larry chan on me lol
Pretty sure there’s no doubt it could be done with a modest motorsports budget and the right amount of ingenuity in drivetrain fabrication. If VW can make an EV racer go THAT FAST all the way up Pikes Peak for a little under 10 minutes uphill the whole way at high elevation that robs any cooling system of effectiveness, the 10 drift runs needed to win an event with the proper access to high-speed charging and requisite in-car battery management/cooling would be pretty easy in comparison.
Factor in the money VW can spend on it vs his team, that's where the issue was.
bro I just commented on this shops youtube page like a week or 2 ago asking them to continue posting videos about their trials and tribulations with this car. Dunno if they are just done with the project, got burnt out, or what, but there is has been radio silence on this car for like a year or more. Hyped on this video though!
Where’d the chelsea video go :/
Bad Politics probably.. youtube, sponsors, government's, or in general pretty much no one likes the truth and it was a honest talk and that's something that ppl don't want. They talked about what politics do and stuff, hard truth hurts to many ppl, so sad.
which one?
@@rbs14k Not to mention how they talked about how the governments makes us crush our cars (cash for clunkers o think it's called in the US) and therefore loosing all the cool car's and how the gov can control all the EV's.. wich is all true, just pretty much to much for most ppl to take but i consider it as one of the honest and therefore best videos in existence, especially hearing that kinda talk from car ppl was awesome..
Its actually super important that big platforms speak up on this.
@@rbs14k appreciate the rundown my dude, I wish I would have watched it before it got taken down. Reupload would be sick if someone has it, but id assume not because how could you see that coming.
Great interview!
Did they have to charge it after each run?
Is there just no way to swap out the battery packs? That could maybe slide out from under the car and then load in a new pack?
How do you deal with no clutch kicking?
looks like your in the pnw now, im avail all this week to help map out some routes
I remember seeing this not driving but on display at probrodown at etown and it was a really wild car to see
TIL Losey knows a lot about Tesla and EV cars 🤔
Yo w ha t happened to the video with Chelsea regarding the golden age of drifting etc?
I like the idea of a transmission and rear end as electric motors do have an ideal rpm that they are most efficient at so if you could utilize that with a transmission it could certainly make for an interesting opportunity
Still waiting on the Chelsea vid upload
I always figured throttle modulation would be the biggest issue with EV drift cars. I wonder if a motor rpm limiter and using a transmission would work better
Software tuning or a gearbox or a really long throttle pedal so u can modulate it more
I see fórmula E and was really loud (no scalectix) and the race was awesomes
There hasss to be a way to set up software to work like gearing
Where can I find the little microphones you're using now?
Rode
@@LoneStarDrift thanks, the Wireless Go?
Was waiting for this!!!! Me and my homie where just talking about this? Is this the future of formula drift?
Anyone have advice on drifting a uncommon platform/car? I’m prepping for my first drift event and I want to hear advice/information regarding this topic.
What are you planning on using?
unknwn B 1982 280zx Turbo
@@girthmonster6421 do you plan on gutting the car? The rear suspensions aren’t made for that type of abuse
unknwn B I was thinking of gutting the car mildly. Not complete gutting of the interior
Just go out and drift it haha. You'll find its weaknesses and then can figure out what to upgrade. Just make sure it runs perfect mechanically first.
Lol at the misspelling in the title
I want to see a damn veggie fuel diesel contraption in FD. +1 if its sponsored by Crisco, Wesson, or Mazola
im gonna poke a question here not about the drivetrain but how did you make the camaro suspension and steering work because it seems like such an underused and underappreciated chassis
I don’t think they are used a lot due to weight and lack of interest in people, until someone cool makes them cool. There hasn’t anyone that has made them “cool” yet in drifting. The mustang was super uncool until Jr MADE it cool
@@LoneStarDrift dang the Camaro is so much nicer than the stang in my opinion and aren't they heavy cars seem to do alot of damage in drifting like the viper and mustang they are amazing when they are sorted
They fit Wisefab for E9x with slight modification.
@@DriftJesus wait really?!
@@njdorset1050 yeah
I greatly dislike a lot of electric cars, but that camaro was a cool concept. Wish it had gone further. Plus I love new zl1’s/1le’s. I personally would’ve taken the motor and put it up front then run it through a gearbox. Would have made it more like driving a regular car
@@mattykobs wasn’t necessarily talking about a Tesla motor. There’s a few other kinds that can and have been manual
Imagine a S Chassis with electric engine 👽
Travis you should explore cooling the battery's with Novec, I am pretty sure that is what some of the EV manufacture are using.
Need Bisimoto's drivetrain from his EV Porsche! Very interesting
Re-upload the 27 min Denofa vid i watched Saturday.
I have to cut out the cussing
@@LoneStarDrift don't be a pussy just leave it in
have a loan star drift 2 where you can put the nsfw stuff uncut where you dont have to worry about cussing for CZcams algorithm so you can point us to that copy off the main channel? like alexi does
@@LoneStarDrift I vote for the second Channel thing
The takeover thing? didn't have time to watch it when it was uploaded and I've been searching for it for 2 days now lol
Drift week HQ lol
lmfao the dodge payment comment
🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
Trav is a FUCKIN BEAST
So you going to give us a walk around or tease us with the title just to stand there an talk lul
Electric motor with right chasis = Beast !!
BDC is just announced Electric Drift Championship!
That was april fools.
Lololol
@@DriftJesus come on dont brake the fun everyone been searching for it!!!!
@@LoneStarDrift and it is not a bad idea to be the first on this concept, there could be loads of fundings from large fims if the concept catches on
@@gorkemcosgun noooooiiiiii LS go BWAaaaaaAAAAhhhhhh
Someone needs to come up with a decent way to clutch an electric motor...
I may or may not be the only one that thinks this, but I don't see drifting moving to electric vehicles and the sport lasting. Part of the appeal to spectators is the visceral sound. Without that, it will be kind of boring. It's much the same as Nascar. Who watches drift videos on mute? Not this guy.
Applies to pretty much any car if you ask me.. 🤷🏼♂️ but what do I know 😂😜
I don't know that drifting is much of a spectator sport. I've always seen it like equestrian sports, where there are spectators, but only because those spectators are competitors or members of the community who are involved in the sport regardless of their seat in the grandstands.
electric racecars are pretty loud, just not as loud as a straight piped coyote
where is the car lol
drift week hq lol
They give them away to drive for free for a day because its data farming.
No sound no care 😤 unless you can simulate the sound and change engines noises with crazy speakers and shit...
So sick and tired hearing people say electric vehicles are eco friendly. They are not! They're even worse than petrol powered vehicles.
This has been proven that you are not true. People tend to forget that it takes fossil fuels to make internal combustion cars then it takes fossil fuels to extract, refine, transport the fuel and eventually get burned. Plenty of studies have been done. Ev are more environmentally friendly than gas cars
@@Shiftheads lithium mining is the same cycle
You need to drive 100k miles to equalize emission output of one 95kWh battery pack compared to diesel powered vehicles. And then recycling becomes an issue. There are no procedures to process lithium ion batteries and you can't overhaul them either. Don't get me wrong I'm all for eco friendly but imo synthetic fuels or hydrogen will be more sustainable than electric battery powered vehicles.
The power plants that recharge your electric car don't have catalytic converters. Instead of the new gas car polluting a little,a mature technology, a new electric car grossly pollutes out the stack at the power plant that charges it .
@@turboturtle9083 most plants aren't coal these days in the US. Even if they are coal fired plants they are still more efficient at turning coal into energy than and internal combustion is turning gas into power. Majority of our power comes from natural gas these days though. Then you have to realize that electric motor is over 90 percent efficient so much less loss than ICE
great content, but holy crap man, let the guy talk. don't take a minute to ask a question that could be asked in 7 seconds.
love this just not enough to give up my fuel car's because you want to play the politics in your statement greater tech stay off the political side lining of my sports and have fun competing with rules