6.7 Powerstroke runs rough.DEF added to the fuel tank. P1291 P1292
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- čas přidán 10. 01. 2014
- Last month I had 3 trucks that had DEF added to the fuel tank. It does not take much to wipe out the complete fuel system. We also had one that had gasoline added that lost compression. They did not authorize tear down so I can not say what failed for sure on that one.
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RIP Ron. I enjoyed your videos and you were super fast on replying to my emails when my powerstroke was down, you helped out a lot. Thoughts and prayers to your family.
Very helpful video. Miss you Ron. Glad the family kept these up for us to learn from you.
When people gripe that GM put the DEF fill location under the hood you can see why.
I had one if those we said no warranty cust opted for a line flush fuel filters and a drain of the tank we did and he hasn't been back yet. I was surprised it would even run cause the def settle at the bottom if the tank so it sucks it all up first bad bad stuff
It amazing how many people do try to hide the mess up's. do they really think a true mechanic won't know what happened? people just need to own up to their mistakes. Good job and awesome videos ron.
personally Id say the real fix to this is to get rid of the damn EPA add-ons
sstroh08 hell yeah
Tell that to the 10,000 Americans who die annually from diesel exhaust caused illness. That's 60,000 since you made your comment.
@@CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq you're part of the problem
I almost threw up when I dumped 3 gallons into my fuel tank two weeks ago. I had to start it for just about 5 seconds so I could put it in neutral and start it down hill to roll in front of my work shop. Well I dropped the full tank of fuel ( ouch $120 worth) and drained it. Washed it out with garden hose real good. The pickup pump and lines and fuel filter on the tank. Installed it and added 3 gal of power service and a gallon of Power service 911. Mixed with 5 gal of fresh fuel. Drove it for a while then added 5 more gallons. Drove it 230 miles then added a full tank. Kept adding Power Service 1 gal per full fuel tank. Drove it another 300 miles then changed both fuel filters. Cut them open and let them dry for a few days. Not one spec of crystal any where on any of either filter. I guess I lucked out.
On a side note I did it twice before on my 2011 6.7. That was at 45k miles..Only a qt or so. Just drained the first filter every few miles then changed the filters out while adding lot's of power service for a while. Traded it in at 165k and still running smooth. No issues there.
On a side note. Why didn't I just call Ford to come and tow it while it was just in the tank and I hadn't started it at all? Had too many important things to be done the next day and 1 week after and another 1 week after and another 1 week after. I went for it. At that point I didn't care what happed to the truck. Either it was going to run and do that all or frig it.
I now have a locking gas cap that should help.
Wow that was a hell of a gamble but looks like you came out on top. We all love to say that we’d do the right thing and get the tow and do it right, but under pressure and in a pinch it’s always “welllllll maybe it’ll be fine if I just run it for a couple seconds”. Whew, I dunno if I’d have the balls to do that but looks like it worked out for you in this instance
@@wcpportfolio Well I did it again this spring. 1 yr later. I drvie 35k a year and always so so busy. I did it this time when I was real tired early one morning. A life time of near 65 yrs of dumping stuff into the gas tank of cars,trucks,etc. made me a creature of habit.
So this go around I had a tow truck come (unstarted mine) bring it to a local shop of ace mechanics (build and drive stock cars as a family) drop the tank and rinse it out good. So far 45k miles after the first one and 10k after the second one. I'm trying to get into t gasser 7.3 as that would do what I need but funds are hard to come by at my age and is it worth the trouble?
Wow, bad day for sure! Green fuel nozzle goes to the green fuel cap. Blue bottle or larger blue box of DEF fluid goes to the blue cap. Great job Ron but its easy to see this owner ran this vehicle after the fluid was added. His insurance will pay for that! I have seen people get it done on the brand I work on (same situation). Thanks for the post!
I first blame the EPA for requiring this crap, which in turn ends up destroying fuel systems like the one in the video.
the EPA has messed up more in our lives than they have ever fixed. typical stupidity of government. for example, modern gas cans. lol
RIP sir
holy shit !
Watching this I will keep my 6.0 way too many expensive repairs on a 6.7
+Graveltrucking i had a 6.0 and had to put 5,000 into it and i sold it 8 months after i bought it. 6.7 repairs are just as costly. Idk how people can mess it up. i fill up dpf tank at a truck stop and you have to fill at separate times and on a separate ticket. its laziness that causes this not the truck
RIP :(
I have a 2019 that keeps blowing the small rubber return hose off the plastic T’s. We replaced all injectors and the rails and the high pressure pump. Now I have p1291, 4 injectors are getting no signal to fire. I’m suspecting bad ECM
Powerstroke owners with Ford extended warranties are just now learning the last half of the extended warranty doesn't cover the engine.
how did someone manage to do this? just simply not paying attention??
Wow... that's a mess. I guess ford should have put the DEF fill away from the fuel fill to help avoid confusion. That stuff does some damage for sure
I don't know how all the others are but my Audi Q7 is right beside it too. Audi's takes a wrench which is kinda good until it runs low and you have to find it or go to a dealer.
DieselTechRon Gm has theres under the hood way up by the windshield on passengers side, it SUCKS to fill it up... but rare to see someone put DEF in the tank
Everyone who has a truck with the DEF system should do a delete. Saves money down the road.
So I did this and ins is replacing everything except the engine. They feel the engine does not need to be replaced. Insurance feels def does not even go into the engine. Thoughts.
I work at a dodge dealer in the parts and if you do it to a Cummins it will cost you $22,000!
I put about a half jug of def so about 1.5 gallons of def fluid. I must have went through 10 tanks of gas then after a 4 hour drive and a good sleep my truck wouldn't start the next day . But I also have a p060a code now . Is that just a Coincidence
rip
are you sure that that isn't sugar in the tank?
Good video, thanks for posting. Is there a diesel/def ratio that will be considered not harmful?
Like 3/4 diesel tank to 12 ounces of def.
Xavier Lemos unfortunately Ron has passed away. But to answer your question, even the smallest amount of DEF in the diesel will cause damage. It might no be apparent or immediate. But it will damage the fuel system.
I have a 7.3 PSD f350 and was looking to buy a new 6.7, but the EPA exhaust and emissions is way more unreliable than the older trucks ... talking to the dealership, I ask them about reliability and they evade that question with the 6.7.
I want to buy a new F350, but the 2 dealerships cannot tell me I could get 100,000 miles without a major repair. Sadly the EPA appears to be killing the diesel light truck market.
Nice truck, just not too excited about a 7,000 dollar exhaust repair or 5,000 dollar turbo repair.
Diesel engines used to be bulletproof due to being industrial grade, but the diesel shop told me if I don't need 400 hp, go with Gas because my maintenance costs will be much lower. That is sad!
not sure you've been getting the right facts.
yeah the 7.3 is great runs forever minimal repairs get from point a to b.
however and time has gone people demand more power better driving truck. new 6.7 has had minimal issues. early 2011 have a glow plug issue where the tip of the glow may break off. 11-14 turbos have not been the most reliable. however have many customers with 100000+ miles on their 6.7 without any issues. there not perfect but I believe the best diesel ford has put in a truck.
epa is here to stay if your looking at anything 2008 and newer your going to have to deal with emissions. however as time has gone on passive regeneration and newer emission technology has dramically improved the life span of the emissions system.
yes it would be great if emissions weren't around and trucks could have healthy lifespan with probably minimal issues.
Sadly I think it's cheaper to run petrol ... I have no love for any fuel ... I am looking at the lowest maintenance costs associated with the vehicle and cost per mile,
Diesel used to be great before the govt destroyed it with their epa lies .... today's diesel owners want 600 hp with a quiet engine and this is what kills an industrial engine. All of the computers, you can keep them ... I thought the 7.3 had too many electronics given a diesel should be mechanically injected.
Fact is this, since 2006 the automakers are making vehicles that are high maintenance piles of crap with the cheapest electronics.
I will just put money into my old vehicle and not buy new ...
Can it take out the ECM as well?
Wow. That would suck.
I was on the phone a year ago when I accidentally did the same. I only put in about a pint. A year later $10,700.00. Ford shouldn't have the tanks right next to each other. The EPA is pitiful.
Did you drain the fuel tank ? or do anything? I had about qt in my 6.7 ford. That was 45k miles traded it in at 165 k miles running smooth and nice still. I only drained the filter every few miles for a while and added lot's of power service diesel kleen and a can of 911. Lucky? who knows.
I get rust in my system because of the diesel it self.
Thanks I just canceled my order for the Dynamax dx3 37ts Class A Diesel not going to pay over $235,344.00 for this DEF Shit.!!!
Granted the owner messed up but it's just unbelievable the financial burden and assache the governments EPA has caused so many....
I work for a fleet with about 200 2011 f250 6.7's and Ive seen this more then once lol WIF light is on pill the filter and let dry..there you go bud you DEF'ed up!!..in 2018 a 2011 isn't worth the price of the "oh fuck kit" at 10 grand plus labor we just junk them they go to auction and sold as is
Another reason to keep my 7.3l
I did the say mistake and put less than a 1/2 gal in my f250 and the night mare began
Mike Bent my step dad added 10 gallons of gasoline to his Dmax luckily he noticed never turned it on and had it towed and the fuel tank cleaned out $150 dollars total still better than ruining the engine
I bet you fanbois aren't complaining about the def tank fill being under the hood in GM's now? are you?
10k. I bet he won't ever do that again
I'm waiting for somebody to leave one so I can get it cheaper. Injectors alone are 500 each from what I found.
Ford changed the Diesel engine from a reliable engine into a nickel and dime money maker that they try to convince people is cool to own. I only care about operating costs ... I figure a gas powered truck is about 10% cheaper to operate after average repairs and loss of use are figured in.
Diesel engines used to be thought of as industrial ... Ford can keep their shitty EPA engines, I will stay with my 7.3 truck and but Gas trucks afterwards!
It doesn't take a genius to avoid this. A little less laziness on the part of the person will result in this not happening.
Well, if you're too stupid to see the caps are different colors and the inlet openings are different sizes...maybe you're just too dumb to be driving...
Just had this done. $10,599 thank goodness for insurance
Vince Olivas who is your insurance company mine wont cover it. Please advise Thanks You
Just curious, what did you tell your insurance company? I’m in the same situation right now
Just told them I put def in my tank. I had Allstate insurance.
I am buying my first diesel (2011 F-350 6.7) and when I saw the size of the fuel door I opened it and noticed the DEF fill right away. It's labeled and if you screw this up you deserve it as far as I'm concerned.......now I just have to make sure my wife knows what it is!!
alienincognito you say that till your mind is some place else or you got stuck working night shift and were up for 27 hours and it happens to you before a trip because your trying to do everything before you leave... just a careless mistake...
It's a shame society has sunk this low that people won't admit they made a mistake and try to get someone else to pay for their mistake.
Then they wonder why things cost so much. Hello...
Just be honest. It goes a long way.
So I go to a dealer and say "hey" I need a truck that don't run on fossil fuels because I don't want to pollute the environment. Good luck, so why the hell do we have to pay for all this added bullshit when it's not our fault in the first place. All my horse ever did was fart once in a while. Big Oil bull shit.
Thanks Ron for pointing out another anti polluting FAIL attempt.
***** yep, blame is the EPA!
Pure politics at our expense. I have a 2004 6.0L. Bullet proofed with EGR delete. New head gaskets, stock injectors ect. My tail pipe is clean......"no soot" no smoke. Passed emissions test. If you Re-route exhaust gasses back to the intake system how is that going to burn clean with the lack of oxygen ?? So you add Band-Aid components like def to illuminate visible smoke but the carbon dioxide is still present. What is the effects of "def" on the environment vs carbon ?? Natural gas and propane clean ?? Fat chance of that . The by-product is still carbon monoxide and dioxide and sulfur. It's all smoke and mirrors.
the spot GM has there def fill spot yes its in a shitty spot, but we really do not see this issue. Thank FUCK hahah
Kevin Rogers The idea behind that is precisely avoiding that type of confusion. Shitty spot indeed but it does the trick. :)
stupid design on fords part the hole for the def tank should have been way bigger to prevent a dumb person from putting the nozzle in the fuel tank imo
Just Remember Hess diesel pumps are orange not green. We're in fl and this happens a lot.Green is gas at Hess.
First of all... who tf goes to the doctor with chapped lips?
If they would’ve never invented this dumb def stuff maybe it wouldn’t happen
The first mistake is buying a powerstroke. With that said, it is no surprise a person with that mentality would pour DEF into the fuel tank. Do the math
Its his truck, not yours. And if you respond saying anything about criticism, its not.