Nikon Z6II vs Canon R5 vs Sony A7III Autofocus Comparison- This is what I learned!
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2. PLEASE READ..I was supposed to use the A7SIII for this test since it has the latest AF tech from Sony but forgot the Full HDMI cord I needed at home so I used the A7III instead (It's still great) I know...... ITS NOT A FAIR COMPARISON as many of you will remind me and completely ignore this but I'm not trying to figure out which is best because then we will be splitting hairs. I wanted to see if the Nikon Z6II has improved and IMHO, it did when using Auto Area/ wide area AF
Now when it comes to subject tracking, this is when Sony will pull ahead from the pack. Real time tracking is unbelievable. Maybe in another video
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Hey Manny, I saw a great video from the Monochrome Memoirs channel where they tweak some custom settings to improve the AF performance in the z6. You should try those, and also optimize settings in the other cameras and repeat the test. Here's the custom settings for the z6ii: Change setting "a3" to "1". Change setting "g4" to "+5" and for "When to apply" choose "Always". Change setting "g5" to "High". Use AF-C.
One thing not mentioned. The Nikon allows you to switch between right and left eye with a click,. But the Sony and Canon don't. That is a huge advantage. Get the wrong eye with a Sony or Canon and you need to recompose.
Thank you for these unbiased real world actual use-case tests
Just ordered my z6ii yesterday and excited to see it work so well compared to it’s predecessor. Great informational video once again.
Congrats!
Are you satisfied?
Whice best for weding z6 ii vs z 7 ii
@@l.c.ahir. z6ii, the higher megapixels of the z7ii are not necessary for wedding shootings.
Plus the z6ii has the higher burst rate (pictures per second). I would pick the z6ii
@@matic2601 thnks for information
This video is so informative and actually shows what we go through in the real world. Great job Manny. Thank you!
This is the most comprehensive test of these cameras that I have seen yet. Great job!
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Terrific video, Manny. Great to see how good the AF is on all these current cameras. Thanks for the effort you put into making this video.
Love how your content is always straight to the point🔥
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I am glad that you have mentioned old fashioned ways of focusing. It seems that most of the people are planning to use just everything on auto. Focus tracking with lock on Fn1 button is like 3d tracking with Nikon dslr cameras and who weren't using af-c 3d tracking with dslrs??
So glad someone finally made this comparison!! Definitely still love my A7iii but this was awesome!
Its about time someone made this video. I can't believe it took this long. Thanks!
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About time someone compared last generation Sony tech with recently released Canon and Nikon bodies?
Would love to see this test now with the new Z6ii firmware. From my very-unscientific tests at home, I think it'll now find face/eyes at a very similar distance to the R5 in this video. Also, I think it's really important to see even though 1 company is ahead of another, these cameras and AF systems are still fantastic, and they've come very far in the last few years!
Nice balanced review free from brand shaming. Much appreciated. It was interesting to see how well all three of these cameras performed. Thank you Manny
Awesome work as always Manny! You are a leader in your reviews - transparent and fair which is key. The one thing that's really missing in this video though is a look at the images. There have been lots of examples where the EVF looks like you have focus with the eye AF but it's actually out of focus somewhat (or vice versa). The live view is important, but less important than the final image. Thanks!
5:51 , 100,000% agreed. There's soo many benefits for having a solid autofocusing system. These 3 cameras are definitely top-tier, especially for someone that is JUST getting into photography too. Excellent video Manny, really enjoyed the comparisons! I still love my Z6 :D
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Finally a unbiased test. Just showing how things works. I appreciate this so much. I’ll be actually be switching to Nikon soon I love that body so much for me.
acknowledging there is a simple work around or that a camera has a different work flow is a major point reviews always seem to miss with these tests
I just switched from Canon and not looking back! Love the files that come out of Nikon.
Great ergonomics, great buttons, great IBIS, great menus, great grip and now 2 card slots, better AF, eye-AF that allows you to switch between right and left eye, and proper grip, and great IQ and colour SOOC, for a price less than Sony or Canon. What's not to like?
@@RejeRush which Canon did you switch from, out of curiosity?
@@cooloox The EOS R. I've used the R6 as well but wasn't too impressed by the files in comparison to Nikon.
I am a Z6 owner and I am very happy to see some great quality from the Z6 II
Absolute legend. Its good you point out the strengths and weakness of the camera without trashing it. That's how a review should be.
great test , what im surprised about is how massive the nikons focus points are. compared to the canon and sony. having used sony for 14 years when we first got eye af 5 or 6 years ago before anyone else it was a game changer. and now the improvements is incredible it means you can do things we couldnt before high speed shots wide open and still get tack sharp eyes its so so good and it doesnt matter what you decide to use they are all great.
Thanks Manny. This was very informative and unbiased 👍👍👍👍
Finally an honest and unbiased AF test. Thank you for that .
Thanks for the feedback Manny! Definitely gives a better perspective on this new nikon!
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I replaced two of my D750s with two z6ii. After shooting 4 portrait sessions and 3 weddings in less than a month of getting the camera, I did notice the same issue of no eye/face detection when the subject is small in the frame. I had to resort to subject tracking.
There's one more small issue that I noticed is that sometimes I cannot move the focus to another person's face in a group shot even though the person's face is visible alongside the other person's face. But this again can be solved with shifting to subject tracking immediately.
Other than these two (which can be fixed in future firmware updates) I'm absolutely in love with the z6 ii. Autofocus is great. No issues shooting fast paced events like weddings, even with non-native lenses.
I just touch AF the rear lcd screen if this happens or use the new 3d tracking on the old z6
@@xophaser I understand that is an option but that doesn't work for me during a fast paced wedding event. I cannot take my eyes off the viewfinder but as I said, I can always use subject tracking.
Do you use Wide area Eye detect AF mode with that box?
@@TaipeiGeek Yes you can. However I found toggling between subject tracking and normal eye/face detect as a faster and convenient option for me
Thanks so much Manny for the amazing informative video.
Is funny how the Sony a7iii is the oldest of all of them and it holds its own against this newer cameras! Wow
@@mainmain5303 Yes and it's 2 years younger... so... what the generation number means...
@@mainmain5303 Well... i think all the systems are more or less on the same plane... in this video the Nikon wins the first test,m but the Sony for example win the second and third (the model who walk in front of the camera)... so for me is a "tie"... what i mean in the previus comment is that the number of the generation doesn't count because now all have the same technology avaiable
@@mainmain5303 It's not even all auto focus, it's literally just the face / eye AF from a distance, lol. The A7iii doesn't even have working IBIS, and has the worst ergos. The Canon is impressive but also costs 2x as much as the Z6ii
But these weird Sony colors and this too much digital style will never change. That's why I switched my A7 ii to a Z6 and I couldn't be happier.
With the firmware 3.0 the AF has much improved, and this video shows Nikon will soon reach the top, with firmwares.
Nice content manny.
I wish you make these videos every once after a good firmware updates.. Intrested to see how nikon will progress over time, provided with dual processors head room.
Is there any debate that manny has become the best still photography CZcamsr over the past year? His videos are so well done, I watch when I’m not particularly interested in the subject. The other big camera channels just keep getting stranger. Keep it up Manny. Appreciate you. Peace and love
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Great video. Thank you so much.
I am wondering why there is still no comparision of the Nikon Z 24-70 2.8 with the Sony GM 24-70 2.8 and the Canon RF 24-70 2.8. Everyone says lenses are most important but nobody makes a comparision or have I missed it 🤔
The tip you gave at around 5:30 was tremendous. Seems as though Nikon heard you with the new firmware update. I look forward to your review on it. Keep up the good work. I love how you've stayed humble.
Great video! Would love for you to compare the the clarity/sharpness, dynamic range and colors of the Nikon, Sony and Canon. Cameras are more than just the auto focus. Rarely do people actually talk about how amazing the files are that come out of the Nikon.
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Nikon and Canon are ahead : colors are more natural, contrast and rendering are more film-like whereas Sony is more digital.
Canon sensors dynamic is average...
Well done! Great insight!
Thank you for pointing out the workaround for when Z6ii locks on to unwanted object. It’s so simple to go into subject tracking but reviewers rarely mention it. 👍
It is not a workaround, it is expected the photographer to choose the desired subject. Not using the settings, just pointing the camera in the general direction it INTENTIONALLY selects the nearest subject which is appropriate for a camera to assume the nearest subject. That is a feature people like in the D850, the best pro DSLR made. Those of us who read the manual do not have problems with missed focus.
Nikon assumes the photographer knows which subject he wants and allows him to select it but even if AF picks the subject and it is not the one desired, it is very easy to switch to the subject to the right or left instantly. Notice how when the Sony locked on the wrong subject it was hard to override the camera's choice. For groups or weddings, the Nikon is better reflecting how they are actually used. When the Sony selects the wrong subject you have to pull the camera off the scene entirely to let is try again until it guesses correctly. The Nikom switching between subjects with the joystick button or the multifunction button, one press of the multifunction switch in the direction of the desired target results in the focus point instantly capturing the next face in the direction you pushed the button or joystick. Works great and is perfect where subjects are close together but on different focal planes, like a group shot of a wedding party.
Remember also, focus and the focus indicator is not the same. Several CZcams channels have pointed that out, Sony has a fast colored box but it does not indicate whether focus has been attained and more than one reviewer discovered that more shots were in focus on the original Z6 than a73 in burst or rapidly moving erratic subject. That is also related to focus peaking, the Z6/7 are joys to manual focus for fine are or old MF lenses because it is so accurate but Sony users seldom use focus peaking because actual focus and focus indication are not that close to each other.
@@stanspb763 if it’s expected for the photographer to pick the subject then why does auto area af exist? It’s expected upon the photographer in other modes but I don’t understand how you can say that when the whole point of auto area af is the camera deciding the subject especially when it has face and eye detection.
@@stanspb763 well said and spot on! Nikon 850 is still my dream camera. Nikon user here thank you!
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So which one should I pick if the bushes are my main subject?
Nice test. Would also love to see how exactly this new Z6II "zone face" area works and feels in various situations. Well, maybe some day... ;)
Manny the big plus that the Nikon has is the video/photo switch - it makes it the fastest camera for hybrid work. It's essential to me. When Ive tried to use Sony and Canon cameras they can't do this as fast.
I wish someone would do this test to show how good Nikons are at doing this.
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ever heard of Taylor Jackson?
Taylor Jackson (a very successful wedding photographer and major CZcamsr) discusses this fact a lot. It is the reason that he is using the Z6 II over the Canon R6.
@@LUITESLIFE not like on s Nikon its more action - and not everything is saved.
Finally someone who mention this!!
Great information as always! Thanks.
Great video Manny 👍
I am using Nikon D800E since 2014 n looking for upgrading now. So should I go for Z6 ii as I m also into shooting interior videos or Z7 ii should be a better choice.
Actually, in this price bracket Nikon z6II really good job... Only need upcoming firmware in body 4k 60f, 10bit 4.2.2 and more accurate & first AF.
Is internal 10 bit 422 a confirmed coming update?
@@professionalpotato4764 Incorrect, Its 10bit 4.2.2 upto 30p via HDMI and upto 12bit If you have the paid pro res raw / black magic upgrade. The update coming est Feb, allows 60p internally @ 8bit in DX Crop (1.5x Focal). However I tested out the 8bit on the z6ii and I can confirm that its absolutely stunning anyways.
@@professionalpotato4764 they ware not officially declare what updated coming in next firmware.... Except for 4k 60p..as we was not expect after releasing Nikon Z6 II Firmware Update Version 1.01 Released . But we expect because of dual processor may be they add this..
@@bif0978 I see. Thanks for clarifying. I really hope they can release full readout pro-res raw and internal 10 bit in a firmware update. Having to pay an additional $900 just for 10 bit is a huge dealbreaker for me. And the line-skipped pro-res makes it as future-proof when I scale up.
@@professionalpotato4764 From my understanding. 10 bit output to an external recorder is natively supported
I just picked up a Z5. Glad to see this comparison. I'm confident future firmware updates will improve Auto AF.
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The Z5 already has really good subject tracking and face tracking. Firmware updates will make it even better BUT it's still quite good. You can watch a lot of videos in decent situations compared to the A7iii and it performs just as good. On top of that, the Z5 has amazing IBIS and none of the Sony FF cameras have working ibis.
@@RiposteThis completely agree, but it can always be improved, right? Fuji just pushed a firmware that gets the AF speed of the X-T3 up to the level of the X-T4.
Don’t all of these cameras have a focus “stickiness” setting. Wouldn’t that change the various outcomes?
Yes. Also the Sony isn't in Real Time Tracking-that's the mode designed to stick to eyes even if objects are in front of the subject. (Disclaimer, I work with Sony's media team.)
Just for the clarification, it would be good to mention how the AF responsiveness was set up on each camera. I have Focus tracking on my Nikon z6ii set up to Fast and it reacquires focus from a blocked shot super fast.
Yeah, I believe this is the case with all. I can tweak the sensitivity settings of my z6II, such as time delay in refocusing on objects that obstruct the subject.
I saw a video from Monochrome Memoirs which showed how to tweak the settings in the (original) z6, and the Eye-AF was significantly improved. I think Manny should try those settings.
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Great comparison brother..Having an R5, An A7r3, and an XT3, Ive got to say...we learn muscle memory what each body is capable of. I think all 3 compared here are exceptional. Weve gotten spoiled. Every so often, I grab my old Pentax K1000, I bought in 79. It really makes you grateful of all the current camera tech. If you own any of these bodies and cant make a great capture, its you, not the camera body. Give Di and the fam my love...since day 1 brother.
If you have those cameras, can you compare how fast AF of A7r3 vs Canon R5? Is A7r3 still good at the moment?
Idk if I missed it but what lens were you using? Does that matter for these test?
Every tool is great, if u know how to operate it.. Great unbiased review.. Keep it up..
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Great real world test. As a new portret shooter, this is how it works. The only thing I really mis on my fuji is limiting the focus. In the studio i want to set a maximum for focussing. So if i am between 3 and 5 meter from my model, that i can restrict the camera between these two values. This would speed up auto focus big time!
Superb job. This is the kind of video I was looking for. Thanks a lot Manny. I wish Nikon were to listen to you. Get a firm ware update for the camera. So that it's all sorted.
Hey Manny. I would love to see you revisit the Z6 mk1 with the new 3.4 firmware. I weigh my purchases on your reviews and would love to see if the original Z6 would make a nice budget kit with the update AF algorithm.
There's a neat utility called Tornado NKN for Nikon cameras. I've heard good things about it, it's easy to use.
Thank you so much for your unbiased videos! I love nikon, that's all I ever shot and if it wasn't for the lenses I already own I think I would get the R6. Please persuade me either way! I primarily shoot portraits and some events. Love your work !!
Z6 ii has gotten even better with updates it would be interesting to see how they stack up now
Can nikon z 6 2 keep the focal length at the model’s eye when the pole is moving into the central area of the frame? This may be useful at times
HI Manny - it would be interesting to see how soon the Nikon could acquire the subject in your last test if you used the new Wide Area Large Eye detect AF mode instead of full auto - I bet it would detect her really far away if you put her in that big box - maybe even farther away than Sony and Canon - it would be worth knowing this because this mode is likely what most wedding photographers would use for a walking down the aisle shot -as opposed to using the full auto area, so as to insure that the camera isn't distracted by near to subject bystanders - and to be sure there is acquisition from farther away up the aisle. Again, I'd love to see how far away the Nikon would acquire the subject in this mode. Either way, it seems that Nikon has arrived - there is no doubt that it is now 90-95% as good as Sony and Canon - but still superior in build quality and the RAW files are second to none - with its amazing mount and the glass that's to come there is a bright future for Nikon. Thanks for your honest and enlightening videos!
I'm afraid that Nikon Z might well become the new Pentax of the mirrorless age, because Z is a lonesome-island monopoly system with no 3rd party support, but instead it has a too limited choice of too monopoly-priced (overpriced) lenses. Z's market share (which is still not departing) will not attract any 3rd party AF lens support (Sigma, Tamron, Tokina) in any foreseeable future. So I think that Nikon will continue to lose market share, and in e.g. 10 years the Z market share might have declined towards the levels where Pentax is currently in the DSLR world.
I'm so pessimistic about Z for the longer term, that at the moment I don't intend to upgrade from my Nikon D7200 to Z. Instead, I'm awaiting what 2021 will bring (e.g. an A7 IV update, and then re-assess the options again).
@@tubularificationed Ah, that is ok. Nikon will be a good attachment to DJI, Fuji or Sony. Nikon owns a lot of patens which can be exploited.
@@tubularificationed lol..dude... people to this day make professional videos with 50 year old Nikkor glass. Pro photographers use old Nikkors all the time. Nikkor is the second most popular lens system after Leica M..Do you think anyone running out to buy a Tamron or a Sigma that is more than 20 years old? If anything, 3rd parties want Nikon more than Nikon want them.
@@tubularificationed rumor has it tamron will make z Mount lenses. nikonrumors.com/2020/06/15/rumors-tamron-to-make-mirrorless-lenses-for-nikon-z-mount.aspx/
@@tubularificationed I have the Tamron 24-70 2.8, Tamron70-200 2.8, Tamron 35 1.8 and Tamron 85 1.8, Sigma 12-24 2.8. I shot 4 portrait sessions and 3 weddings in less than a month after getting the camera in hand and faced no issues in autofocus. To substantiate my statement, our website is www.subhankarbarai.com
What more 3rd party support can I ask?
excellent test .
waiting for a full review of the z6 II's AF .
Really I enjoy this video,just I can tell amazing cameras 😍😍😍
This video along with Matt irwin's view is what we need more of. Very unbiased fair. I want to get the Z62 so bad, but chose to order a 50 1.2s instead. I will focus on getting glass first for my original z6 :)
I added a Z6 II to my Z6, and while I see a noticeable improvement in AF and general responsiveness, the Z6 is still an amazing camera. That 50mm f1.2 on the other hand is going to be epic.
You’ve done the right thing.
@@ghas4151 heck yeah man. I love how the af is. I'm just so happy seeing good news with nikon. I want all cameras to succeed. Not leica. They suck hahahha
Thank you for the review I was waiting for yours
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Great test. I shoot sony apsc cameras, but I am also considering the Nikon Z5 with 24-200 mm lens as a travel/street camera. The Sony A7iii is pricier and the 24-105 is more expensive, and the 24-240 is huge and heavy. How do you like shooting with Nikon compared to Sony? And image quality? I usually use zone AF with face/eye detection. Sony’s face detection can be problematic when there are a few people in the frame. I need to switch to single point autofocus
Interestingly, the New modes, where you have large AF fields wherein eye af runs... would have been very interesting to see in that "loses the person while moving away" test.
Hey there Manny. Thanks for sharing.....but the Z6 with the latest update, that camera does it's trick or not?!
I got Sony A7i and it don’t have ibis, and I want to find a Len with image stabilizer please give me recommandation? I am thinking of getting Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 ART or Tamron 28-75mm F2.8? For prime i am thinking of getting Sony 20mm F1.8 since I already got FE 50MM F1.8 LENS? . For telephoto zoom I should I get Sigma 100-400mm f/5-6.3 or Tamron 75-180 F2.8?
Hey Manny, is the a7IV going to be announced soon? Lately I've seen videos compare new cameras to the a7iii which is almost 3 years old now. Makes me think its going to be announced soon.
Nice video mate!
Looking forward to your Z7 ii coverage, Manny!
You should have tried nikon's wide area eye/face af in the distance test to see how well it would focus in that scenario. Seeing that it is a feature Nikon purposely put in the new systems its only fair to use it and see if it gives it an edge over the competition.
What lense do you think is better for SHARP portraits full body and the face is still sharp
Great video with very useful information. Please add the Fujifilm X-T4 into the mix if you do something like this again. Thanks for all of your great videos!
Does the a7S III have a superior AF compared to the a7 III? If so, noticeable?
Do you think they'll keep updating the z6 and bring it closer to this?
Can't wait to get my Z6II. The Canon and Sony's are great cameras, but I love Nikon's raw files and its ergonomics. Decent test, but it seems all everyone focuses on (pardon the pun ) is eye AF.
Did you optimize the custom AF settings in the Nikon for this test? You can further adjust the AF speed in the menus.
hello sir I am new commer im confuse to buy lens for sony a7iii please help me I am thinking sony135 1.8 should I buy it
Honesty made manny have more followers even that his main gear is Sony but he is really an honest photographer and we can trust him unlike some other misleading embassadors of some brands who cheat consumers with thier fake opinions to get some more money from some brands. I always trust Manny and Toney. 👍🏻👍🏻
Which one is best sony 90mm 2.8 or Sony 85mm 1.8
I’m getting the same results with my z6 ii. Compared to my a7iii the subject/face has to be nearer in order for the focus overlay to find it. This is using the 24-70 with the FTZ adapter and auto area eye detect. I thought it’s because I’m not using a native lens but it looks like Manny is with his test and has the same result. If you zoom in though it will find the eye/face. If you switch to wide area eye detect it’s the same, the subject has to be near or else it will not find the eye. My workaround is just use single point in this situation. Now if you compare the colors between the z6ii and the a7iii? That’s a different story although as they say it’s subjective.
Great testing 👌
Thank you a lot, good comparison!
Another great clip. Thanks Manny. In your opinion though, upgrading from an older system like the original A7, is it worth saving a few dollars and getting the z6 II? or going ahead and getting the a7iii (especially understanding the discounts currently)?
There are so many factors that play into this decision. Right now, Sony has a huge advantage in lens options which is why I’m kept it as my main system
Awesome job manny 💯 got a question preset packs on your web site work on mobile Lightroom?
Love the review, and the Polaroid hoodie
Well done Manny.
Manny, will you do a low light high iso test with these three cameras too 🙏🙏
An you tell us your settings on the canon r5. I would live to know your camera settings
Why didn t you press the Ok button and bring up the tracker square, in the Nikon? Didn t you see the prompt on the screen? It sychs to faces white well, but you do have to activate it!
Anyone know how the z6 is after the latest firmware?? I hear it’s pretty solid for the price in 2021
Which camera is best for wildlife photography 🤔?? Sony a7iii vs Nikon z6ii vs canon r6
You mentioned the X100V as your walk around camera. I switched from Fuji to Sony and I have to admit this is the only part of the equation I couldn't in Sony land. Amazing camera. Love mine.
Thx for this video Manny!!
Hi, are the Z6 II AF and sensor features the same in the Z6? I noticed there were updates.
All 3 cameras are fantastic. Interesting though how a 2018 camera does well, and exceeds the other two in some areas. I wonder how the 2018 versions of Canon and Nikon perform next to the A7III...
Very nice explanation! 👍🏻
I am interested in birds, landscape, aviation, portrait and macro photography. Please suggest what lenses under USD 500 can be paired with Nikon Z 6 ii according to my shooting preferences.
Thank you
How did you record camera menus? Was it one solution for all 3 cameras?
For wedding and portrait
Should i go for d850 or should I invest in z6ii
great comparison
How can I record my view like this? As if I am looking through the camera
This has to be the best z6 ii video! Killed it bro!
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Nice video! Did You use Nikkor 50mm 1,8 S?
Would be good to see a comparison with the z6 ii's new 1.1 firmware update
Very nice video. Quite a bit of interesting info there. I prefer the R5 and Sony approach of half pressing shutter to lock the focus and release unlike the Nikon - this gives far more control of where I want to shoot - also useful when there are multiple models in the picture and I want to focus on only one particular model.
But what I am quite surprised by is the AF test and locking on the models face. I could be wrong here - isn't the background separation a factor in the focus lock? The Green bush wall in the background of the model seems to be impacting the AF lock, and I reckon that the separation was an issue to the lens. There are videos by other reviewers where these cameras seem to have locked at much greater distances. If you could test that out, I believe that the AF lock on the model would be smoother with a clear background or with greater separation with the background.
What was your focus lock on setting?? 1-5?? Just curious
Thank you so much Manny!