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The t4 kaleid has clicky abxy, hall effect, 1ms response, 2 back buttons (way better than the g7), custom rgb with clear faceplate and black/gold pcb, and macros with software
@@PughsReview According to a Reddit tester T4 Kaleid sticks have jitter errors and g7se has a falsified raw mode but no errors so its better. But they cheaped out on the buttons
Its rubbing because the left side anti friction ring (the blue ring around the sticks) isn’t machined quite perfectly so it isn’t perfectly smooth so it feels “bumpy” the right side feels very smooth tho, found this out after some critical thinking and grabbing the black faceplate off the g7 and putting it on the g7 se. No more rubbing, the black friction rings that come on the g7 are cut better cuz they are perfectly smooth on both sticks
You can enable hair triggers within the Gamesir software as well as adjust deadzones, mins / maxs. The reason I bought this controller WAS because of the locking mechanism with the two rear buttons. As someone who only uses rear buttons in a few particular games, I appreciate that they incorporated a locking mechanism for these buttons so when they are not in use I can play with still an awesome controller. Win win.
Yep you are correct on all of that the one thing I do think they could of done better on tho is not having those locking mechanism that money could of been put into trigger stops instead for FPS game. You can set the back button up to be nothing so when you press them nothing happens so why have the locking mechanism as well. But that just a me thing still a great Controller.
Got a GameSir G7 SE for my PC and one for my XBox Series X. These controllers are awesome. Only bad thing is it's corded, which is fine for me but not for many. I prefer the membrane as they don't make all those clicking noises and they work exactly the same. Wasn't a fan of the vibrating triggers, but you can turn those off so all good. Locks are there so your not constantly pressing those buttons (even if you don't have them assigned to anything) those buttons like all buttons will wear out over use so why have them in use if player doesn't want to use them.
the reason of the cutbacks in other areas is to keep this as a budget controller with hall effect joysticks, they are quite expensive so they had to cut corners, and they didn't have trigger locks for the same reason
I bought both. The hall effect sticks on the SE might be better but the grip on the standard G7 was way more important to me. The tactile buttons on the standard are a nice bonus in addition to the grip but honestly I enjoyed the standard buttons on the SE just as much so no real bonus points there. So for me it honestly came down to the comfort of the grip compared to the longevity of the Hall effect sticks. I choose to play with the standard G7 because the lack of grip on the SE made it way less comfortable and I had to work harder to enjoy the controller. I tore them both completely apart to try and swap the grippy back shell onto the SE but the capacitors or some component is located in a different place on the back of the PCB so I wasn’t able to swap them and was super sad. With some minor modification to the back shell I might have been able to make it work but I just didn’t feel like putting in the effort to try a custom modification. Hopefully Gamesir updates the SE to the grippy back shell! I’d definitely buy it if they did.
I personally use all 4 paddles on my Xbox Elite Series 2 and would be lost without them. Hopefully we will see four bottom buttons and trigger stops in the future and I will give this manufacturer a whirl
At least you will be using the elite until your bumpers inevitably stop working and you get stick drift thus making a 4 paddle controller worse than a $40 controller this 2 paddles made by some guy in china
@@n64slayer Yeah so far I've gone through an Elite controller once a year even though i put it in a drawer after use to keep the dust off and clean it every so often
I have a g7, not too happy with the thumbstick profile(it seems delayed as if I have a big deadzone even though my in game dzz is 0) it needs trigger stops for the hair triggers to be worthwhile as they have instant reset. When you ADS the instant you release any pressure you un-ads. Gamesir are so close to a truly fantastic controller.
@@autoscopy imagine pulling your left trigger in 1mm to ADS,that's OK if you have a trigger stop but try holding it there without one and inevitably you'll release a bit of pressure, then you will un-ads. My point is that the instant triggers are fantastic but you still have to pull the left trigger all the way in,, which sort of negates the benefit a bit
@@Ron_Connor that's exactly what did. I'm finding the shell size a bit small for my large hands soo trying to find a good way of bulking it out a bit. It's only quarter of an inch narrower the Xbox controller but makes a big differnce
I recently purchased the G7 SE controller to replace a 80 dollar, red camo, vertical drifting xbox controller. And my only complaints are the d-pad and xbox button. I use the xbox button alot for music/game balancing that my wireless headset cant control. And i often press it to get the side menu and it will act as if i long held the button and am trying to turn it off. And it does this OFTEN. Its sticky, has alot of travel, and simply cannot be used at a higher than usual pace. I also would press it once and it would phantom jump around the menus on the sidebar. It was strange. Now the same issue i have with the xbox button i also have with the d-pad. I think the dish like shape on the xbox controller is quite possibly the best feel and makes presses tactile and clicky in all directions.The t-shape is a step down. And i say this as somebody whose played every generation playstation controller. But these also feel sticky on the membrane, innacurate, and have a ton of travel. Thank god the software allows deactivated of the diagonal movements. Now i will say the hall effect sticks are very smooth. I feel more accurate with fine movements. But the hall effect triggers might be a step too far. I assume the trigg customization is only possible with the G7 SE triggers. But be incredibly careful with your controller as this makes the triggers more susceptible to breaking if the controller is dropped. (I was amazed to start an FPS game and my right trigger was completely inoperable in-game. Even though it felt the same as it did the night prior when it was working.) The drop was maybe a foot in height that i can remember. So yes the sticks survived another part breaking first before drifting hahaha all in all gamesir just needs to hurry up and make the 1k polling, microswitch, hall effect ultra pro controller and be done with it.
@@Kagamiya you’re really agreeing with me if you understand my point. He said it was a downgrade, I’m saying that it’s not. It’s not a downgrade or an upgrade because it’s preference. Now speaking from a competitive standpoint, and reliability standpoint, membrane face buttons are objectively superior.
I know exactly what you're talking about with the anti friction rings having some friction to them. I actually changed to the regular G7 faceplate to be able to have the smoothness again.
One consideration I need to make, when he says that if you play games that use the D-Pad and ABXY buttons a lot, you should choose the G7 SE and not the G7, the reason they are membrane now, is because with switch buttons wasnt smooth in excessive movements, especially in a fighting game and there were a lot of people complaining, so in this version they decided to listen to the public and leave it with membrane.
The thing about some of these *membrane buttons on the G7 SE. Is that they aren't contact point like on the Xbox controllers. They are these small dome switches that can were out before the rated 5mil. I think the only ones rated for that are ABXY and not the start/select and d-pad. Those can suddenly "POP" if pressed far to many times in quick succession. I'm guessing the constant bending and minor heat created makes those kind of buttons fall apart. The membrane just sits on top just for the added mushy feeling.
I have a question: Why are trigger locks so important? What I mean is that every 3rd party controller seems to have them but I don't understand the use for them when every FPS I've played since 2010 has an option to remap your aim and shoot buttons to RB and LB.
Trigger stoppers Stop u from clicking the trigger all the way but still registering it as a hit for the FPS the amount of time cut down just from trigger stoppers literally is insane u can shoot faster than anyone in the game
@@xvittsl5383 But in the other hand Gamesir released an update to overclock the responsiveness to 1000mhz which means 1ms so therefore the fastest anyway without needing trigger stops + the hair trigger they implied in the software + you can map it to shoot with RB which has a smaller path , so I think it was a smart decision from their end to lower the cost and give it a trigger stop effect without a trigger stop
Great video. It explained the controller features better than the manual, profile switching without app was not in it. I chose G7 because of the color and the face buttons. The buttons are nice and clicky, but I feel that the are wasted on G7 because of the d-pad. Xbox Series X controllers have excellent d-pad for fighting games and G7 d-pad is lacking compared to it. G7 will end up being mostly FPS controller for me.
I made an adjustment with the SE, and kept it. The buttons on the t4k just didint feel right for me. Does anyone have an idea when the 1000hz firmware update will be released for the SE?
Are these controllers good for playing nba 2k24??? Online?? 2k24 has the worst latency this yr on shooting the basketball. Hard to time jump shots and compete.
That's a great question and mabe a great video too😀😎 but since you asked I kinda of answer it. If you are more worried about sick drift and latency gamesir if you more worried about trigger stops and 4 buttons fusion pro. Why well that all to answer and will be answered in a video lol.
@@PughsReview great controller, its like G7 and G7 SE combined but sadly the apps to customize and update the controller is thru phone. Gamesir Nexus doesn't detect it.
So personally I'm with you I think that the controller should be someone like the new Turtle Beach stealth hall effect sensors Wireless with four buttons on the back. And with the option of plugging it in to be wired to be a thousand Hertz. I don't see why we can't have a thousand hurt controller now since the gamesir is.
I'm no Xbox player, I'm on a PC Steam player. I'm using G7 SE in Cycle racing games. I setup my Left stick Deadzone at 14 But Maybe I have to lower it because when I play Play Ride 4 I struggle making them sharp turns like it's not leaning my bike racing all the way, maybe it's because I set Deadzone at 14 and not tried it lower or it's because I have to be more precise and can't even move a little bit off and that can make it more difficult. Edited: Aug 30th....I seen I had to set Left Deadzone to Raw, past the 100% max, but I still leave it to 14% for the center. But when I play Mx-Bikes, it's a harder game to learn for beginners, it's as close you can get for a Simulator Dirt bike racing game. I have no trouble in Mx-Bikes and just love it. Mx-Bikes is such an awesome game because people so far made over 100 tracks and still making vary good motocross and Supercross tracks!, So many I can't even find the time to try them all. You just add them tracks into your game Mods folder. And I feel I must say a little more...can add extra Bike, Helmets, clothing designs. Having Analog triggers for racing is a must have and can change it to instant trigger press for shooting games is awesome! I wish I could extend the thumb sticks longer more though. Guess I need to look for Thumb stick extenders. By the way Dead zone tv series was a great TV series lol.
Too many odly placed buttons including the analogs being a little closer, I play claw and just pressing start and select trips me out. To top it off I need to hold the controller really retarted or else I end up pressing the back buttons since they are extremely sensitive. I am definetly going to mod the hell out of the G7 SE. I really want to give the Hall effect analogs a chance. (Currently waiting for Marius is Xbox halleffects.) (I am Adding trigger stops, moving both start and select down to xbox original positions, adding a stiffer spring on the paddles and def sanding down the edges an bit.) The controller feels like a combo SNES and xbox 360 controller. The weird Playstation thumbsticks are annoying (the inner dome makes the edges on the analog useless. ) def going to replace with xbox one ones. The base is smaller in length. So people will have to sand them down.
You got your work cut out for you. I never could play claw you got that 9ver me for sure. I would assume more hall effects will come out eventually for Xbox hopefully lol
I got mine today, I feel like the dpad moves right/ left when I'm pressing down for some reason. Not sure if that's a regular fault. I also don't like where they put the start and back buttons. I'm used to them always being level with x but now their higher up level with y button
@@PughsReview Doesnt really matter if on the long run these controllers last twice or more as long as xbox or PS controllers with their cheap analog sticks. Enough of switching controller every 6-8 months.
Got g7 se 2 weeks ago, I now have stick drift on both sticks. I had to increase deadzone on both sticks very disappointed. Trying to adjust attachments on MW2 last night, was impossible. Had to use d pad. Sending back for another one
Tired of gamesir cutting corners. They need to release a premium controller with hall sticks, wraparound rubber grip, mech face buttons, trigger stops, and make it wireless since powerA has finally got the first third party wireless controller, so it’s possible.
@Triple9 did you check their newly release Gamesir T4 Cyclone/Cyclone Pro that is Wireless, Mechanical A, B, X, Y button, hall sticks, rear macro button
@@PughsReview Yeah I did that it’s really nice! I’m just sad about how they’re removing the 1000hz on Xbox that’s basically the only reason I bought it. I guess if you don’t go back to 250hz after updating then you can keep 1000hz but idk if they’ll ever fix the stick drift on 1000hz then.
Apparently though you may be a great player, you know not to much about marketing. Baby step's mean's update's, and updated controller's cause there to be more sale's of almost the same thing. Putting all the egg's in one basket, mean's you won't need a upgrade when trigger stop become avaible. The "NO" drift is going to cost them money when one doesn't have to replace their controller every couple of month's. Having updated controller's by adding function's latter will cause sale's.
@@PughsReview i mean, yeah you can use Them all, there are enough Games that i cant Play with Controller cause of the Missing Buttons, Like flight Simulator, space engineers, and many more. We also have Bad Movement and quick-menu Problems in all console Games cause the Games are Made for the Standard Layout with No Backbuttons. Its Not 2004 anymore, Backbuttons should be the Standard for many years
Its rubbing because the left side anti friction ring (the blue ring around the sticks) isn’t machined quite perfectly so it isn’t perfectly smooth so it feels “bumpy” the right side feels very smooth tho, found this out after some critical thinking and grabbing the black faceplate off the g7 and putting it on the g7 se. No more rubbing, the black friction rings that come on the g7 are cut better cuz they are perfectly smooth on both sticks
still annoys me how the t4 kaleid isn’t compatible with xbox it’s basically both controllers combined would’ve copped, but the g7 is definitely the best out of the set
Gamesir g7, 6 months in, crazy stick drift on left stick. Can not get ahold of customer service. No place to file a claim even in their warranty section on the site. Google reveals tons of people saying even if you do get ahold of them, once you mention a return or warranty replacement they GHOST you. Terrible company.
SE all the way imo, can't beat HE sticks. As for fighting games it depends on what fighting game is your main game tbh, for example multiversus which is due to re-release soon I use the left stick for movement and the right stick for some attacks and the face buttons for other attacks.
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G7 SE: I found that it is essential to remove the dead zones for the sticks, in the app, if you plan to use it for FPSs.
@@blorbb5398 do you mean raw mode 🤷🏽♂️ also I only play call of duty
Having to choose between features makes me buy neither. I'll just wait for a Gamesir with mech keys, hall sticks and vibration triggers.
As long as you okay paying more then I understand waiting. They won't be able to put all of that into a xbox license controller for 45 or 50.
@@PughsReview $60 is fine, just make it good
The t4 kaleid has clicky abxy, hall effect, 1ms response, 2 back buttons (way better than the g7), custom rgb with clear faceplate and black/gold pcb, and macros with software
@n64slayer I don't disagree at all.
@@PughsReview According to a Reddit tester T4 Kaleid sticks have jitter errors and g7se has a falsified raw mode but no errors so its better. But they cheaped out on the buttons
Its rubbing because the left side anti friction ring (the blue ring around the sticks) isn’t machined quite perfectly so it isn’t perfectly smooth so it feels “bumpy” the right side feels very smooth tho, found this out after some critical thinking and grabbing the black faceplate off the g7 and putting it on the g7 se. No more rubbing, the black friction rings that come on the g7 are cut better cuz they are perfectly smooth on both sticks
You can enable hair triggers within the Gamesir software as well as adjust deadzones, mins / maxs. The reason I bought this controller WAS because of the locking mechanism with the two rear buttons. As someone who only uses rear buttons in a few particular games, I appreciate that they incorporated a locking mechanism for these buttons so when they are not in use I can play with still an awesome controller. Win win.
Yep you are correct on all of that the one thing I do think they could of done better on tho is not having those locking mechanism that money could of been put into trigger stops instead for FPS game. You can set the back button up to be nothing so when you press them nothing happens so why have the locking mechanism as well. But that just a me thing still a great Controller.
Some people say the joysticks arent as good as the basic xbox controller do you agree?
@Jay55273 I'm not sure what you mean since the SE has hall effects they are better. Are you talking about tension size?
@@PughsReviewOh just the feeling and smoothness of the joysticks
@@Jay55273 i do really like the g7. For apex it was a lil bit work to get used to it but im beamin now. And in forza it was from the beginning perfect
Got a GameSir G7 SE for my PC and one for my XBox Series X. These controllers are awesome. Only bad thing is it's corded, which is fine for me but not for many. I prefer the membrane as they don't make all those clicking noises and they work exactly the same. Wasn't a fan of the vibrating triggers, but you can turn those off so all good. Locks are there so your not constantly pressing those buttons (even if you don't have them assigned to anything) those buttons like all buttons will wear out over use so why have them in use if player doesn't want to use them.
the reason of the cutbacks in other areas is to keep this as a budget controller with hall effect joysticks, they are quite expensive so they had to cut corners, and they didn't have trigger locks for the same reason
Yep I do agree with this 💯 let's get a controller with it all for 80 like the fusion pro 3 but with hall effects.
I bought both.
The hall effect sticks on the SE might be better but the grip on the standard G7 was way more important to me.
The tactile buttons on the standard are a nice bonus in addition to the grip but honestly I enjoyed the standard buttons on the SE just as much so no real bonus points there.
So for me it honestly came down to the comfort of the grip compared to the longevity of the Hall effect sticks. I choose to play with the standard G7 because the lack of grip on the SE made it way less comfortable and I had to work harder to enjoy the controller.
I tore them both completely apart to try and swap the grippy back shell onto the SE but the capacitors or some component is located in a different place on the back of the PCB so I wasn’t able to swap them and was super sad. With some minor modification to the back shell I might have been able to make it work but I just didn’t feel like putting in the effort to try a custom modification.
Hopefully Gamesir updates the SE to the grippy back shell!
I’d definitely buy it if they did.
Great feed back
Top 1% in Apex ranked :D , thx for your review, I just purchased this!
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I personally use all 4 paddles on my Xbox Elite Series 2 and would be lost without them. Hopefully we will see four bottom buttons and trigger stops in the future and I will give this manufacturer a whirl
Yes we need 4 buttons my v2 chroma has 6 and I use them all in apex
At least you will be using the elite until your bumpers inevitably stop working and you get stick drift thus making a 4 paddle controller worse than a $40 controller this 2 paddles made by some guy in china
@@n64slayer Yeah so far I've gone through an Elite controller once a year even though i put it in a drawer after use to keep the dust off and clean it every so often
I have a g7, not too happy with the thumbstick profile(it seems delayed as if I have a big deadzone even though my in game dzz is 0) it needs trigger stops for the hair triggers to be worthwhile as they have instant reset. When you ADS the instant you release any pressure you un-ads. Gamesir are so close to a truly fantastic controller.
They are do8ng well for the amount of time they've been out.
I'm confused. Isn't that what you want you when you let go of ads button?
@@autoscopy imagine pulling your left trigger in 1mm to ADS,that's OK if you have a trigger stop but try holding it there without one and inevitably you'll release a bit of pressure, then you will un-ads. My point is that the instant triggers are fantastic but you still have to pull the left trigger all the way in,, which sort of negates the benefit a bit
Set up your software hair trigger manually using the sliders instead and you will get better results
@@Ron_Connor that's exactly what did. I'm finding the shell size a bit small for my large hands soo trying to find a good way of bulking it out a bit. It's only quarter of an inch narrower the Xbox controller but makes a big differnce
excellent review i already bought it the other day and now just checkin if it was worth it so thanks 👍
yo can over clock it ?
I recently purchased the G7 SE controller to replace a 80 dollar, red camo, vertical drifting xbox controller. And my only complaints are the d-pad and xbox button. I use the xbox button alot for music/game balancing that my wireless headset cant control. And i often press it to get the side menu and it will act as if i long held the button and am trying to turn it off. And it does this OFTEN. Its sticky, has alot of travel, and simply cannot be used at a higher than usual pace. I also would press it once and it would phantom jump around the menus on the sidebar. It was strange. Now the same issue i have with the xbox button i also have with the d-pad. I think the dish like shape on the xbox controller is quite possibly the best feel and makes presses tactile and clicky in all directions.The t-shape is a step down. And i say this as somebody whose played every generation playstation controller. But these also feel sticky on the membrane, innacurate, and have a ton of travel. Thank god the software allows deactivated of the diagonal movements. Now i will say the hall effect sticks are very smooth. I feel more accurate with fine movements. But the hall effect triggers might be a step too far. I assume the trigg customization is only possible with the G7 SE triggers. But be incredibly careful with your controller as this makes the triggers more susceptible to breaking if the controller is dropped. (I was amazed to start an FPS game and my right trigger was completely inoperable in-game. Even though it felt the same as it did the night prior when it was working.) The drop was maybe a foot in height that i can remember. So yes the sticks survived another part breaking first before drifting hahaha all in all gamesir just needs to hurry up and make the 1k polling, microswitch, hall effect ultra pro controller and be done with it.
Well said and now that i know that about the xbox button I will give it a more time in videos
Great review mane keep up the good work all of this is new to me. But you made it clear to me thanks.
Glad I could help any questions don't hesitate to ask.😎
How do you feel about the controller on a scale 1_10 I'm 🤔 about buying one.
Which controller?
G7 SE
For fps on xbox specificly yes but if you on pc go with the t4
honestly at this point im down for a $120+ controller from them with hall effect trigger stops clicky buttons and 4 back buttons
And let's make it 1000hz
if they add all this idc about paying 200 for it but as of rn just the no drift sticks isnt enough
I don't get why they downgraded the buttons from mechanical to membrane, removed the rubber grips and reduced the polling rate.
cost, they made this to be a budget controller
Mechanical buttons aren’t superior to membrane in any shape or form.
From which one to
@@D1S0- he is talking about production cost. membrane is just cheaper to make rather than mechs switch. superior or not is different betweem people
@@Kagamiya you’re really agreeing with me if you understand my point. He said it was a downgrade, I’m saying that it’s not. It’s not a downgrade or an upgrade because it’s preference. Now speaking from a competitive standpoint, and reliability standpoint, membrane face buttons are objectively superior.
Hello! Is the audio jack disabled if you enable 500HZ on the SE model?
I don't think so
I know exactly what you're talking about with the anti friction rings having some friction to them. I actually changed to the regular G7 faceplate to be able to have the smoothness again.
Yep, I sent it back. The new one didn't have it. I assume a bunch was made like that, and they fixed it.
GameSir G7 SE GuliKit KingKong 2 Flydigi Direwolf Gamesir T4 Cyclone Which one is better for fifa with my small hands
@@PughsReviewthe g7 se is pretty small, way smaller then an xbox controller. And I think it's a good one for fifa
Hey I have a question? I didn’t get to watch the vid fully from work but do both have Hall effect sticks or just the SE???
The perfect budget pro controller will have Halleffect sticks, macros back buttons, and trigger stops. IDC if it's wired or not.
I agree 💯
i am playing beat'em up arcade games, would you recommed SE or G7 for me? thank you
I just wish the SE Had Trigger stops. I play mostly shooters.But the Hall Effect sticks would be amazing for Shooters and Racing Games
Agreed 💯
Switch to bumpers for shooting, it’s much better if you don’t have trigger stops
Can you use wireless headsets with the gamesir controller? Seen on Reddit yes and no can’t find real answer on it
What?! That question makes no sense. Can u use a wireless headset on your xbox? Well then there u go. So yes
Amazing video! Cant see any shipping options to eu from amazon where i live for the controller but looking forward to buying it sometime if i can🙌
Yea they are sold out for now I believe. But should be back soon 😎
Thanks for the kinds words as well
@@PughsReview Np! Under rated channel!‼️
I've ordered direct from gamesir. Cheaper and free delivery unless you want priority delivery.
Nice
which one do you recommend for games like fifa or dark souls like ? ty
One consideration I need to make, when he says that if you play games that use the D-Pad and ABXY buttons a lot, you should choose the G7 SE and not the G7, the reason they are membrane now, is because with switch buttons wasnt smooth in excessive movements, especially in a fighting game and there were a lot of people complaining, so in this version they decided to listen to the public and leave it with membrane.
I can only speak for me they switches felt fine to me and I would rather the g7 vs g7se for fighting game but each there own.
The thing about some of these *membrane buttons on the G7 SE. Is that they aren't contact point like on the Xbox controllers. They are these small dome switches that can were out before the rated 5mil. I think the only ones rated for that are ABXY and not the start/select and d-pad.
Those can suddenly "POP" if pressed far to many times in quick succession. I'm guessing the constant bending and minor heat created makes those kind of buttons fall apart. The membrane just sits on top just for the added mushy feeling.
Hey man, any update on whether these controllers can be overclocked?
what happened to the gamesir g7se 1000hz update? #pughsreview #gaming @GameSir
I have a question: Why are trigger locks so important? What I mean is that every 3rd party controller seems to have them but I don't understand the use for them when every FPS I've played since 2010 has an option to remap your aim and shoot buttons to RB and LB.
Trigger stoppers Stop u from clicking the trigger all the way but still registering it as a hit for the FPS the amount of time cut down just from trigger stoppers literally is insane u can shoot faster than anyone in the game
@@xvittsl5383 But in the other hand Gamesir released an update to overclock the responsiveness to 1000mhz which means 1ms so therefore the fastest anyway without needing trigger stops + the hair trigger they implied in the software + you can map it to shoot with RB which has a smaller path , so I think it was a smart decision from their end to lower the cost and give it a trigger stop effect without a trigger stop
@@dzcasanova8840 i need to get a new controller n that’s my. ext one fr
Can this be overclocked? I heard this one comes with 1ms 1000hz right out the box
No. There is a update coming eventually for it.
Is one usb port better than another on the Xbox as far as lower input lag? Also do I need to keep open the gamesir app on my Xbox while using it?
Whatever the controller is capable of is all you can get dosent matter where you plug it in.
no idea how smart is for gamesir to use magnetic cover when the controller uses hall effect and they work with magnet.
maybe its not a problem
Good point. I would assume the pull isn't enough to inturpt the stick sensors themselves. haven't for me any ways
I have the SE. It is incredibly smooth compared to my Xbox controllers. I know about hall effects because my business is in electronics
Nice glad you like it.
Great video. It explained the controller features better than the manual, profile switching without app was not in it.
I chose G7 because of the color and the face buttons. The buttons are nice and clicky, but I feel that the are wasted on G7 because of the d-pad. Xbox Series X controllers have excellent d-pad for fighting games and G7 d-pad is lacking compared to it. G7 will end up being mostly FPS controller for me.
I play cod but also play like mx vs atv legends and riders republic. Do you know which option would be best for me?
I probably go with the SE personally or get both 😃
For platform games which dpad is better, G7 or G7 SE?
I made an adjustment with the SE, and kept it. The buttons on the t4k just didint feel right for me. Does anyone have an idea when the 1000hz firmware update will be released for the SE?
I haven't heard of a release yet as soon as they do and I hear I will make a short. To update everyone.
GameSir G7 SE GuliKit KingKong 2 Flydigi Direwolf Gamesir T4 Cyclone Which one is better for fifa with my small hands
I cam only speak for what I've played and reviewEd but the t4 would be my pick
Are these controllers good for playing nba 2k24??? Online?? 2k24 has the worst latency this yr on shooting the basketball. Hard to time jump shots and compete.
These are fine the latency on these controllers are better than the og xbox controller.
Which controller should I use for nba 2k ?
Some fighting games have half circle inputs that you can cheese with analog
Okay so g7 se or power A fusion pro 3? Both controllers seem amazing.
That's a great question and mabe a great video too😀😎 but since you asked I kinda of answer it. If you are more worried about sick drift and latency gamesir if you more worried about trigger stops and 4 buttons fusion pro. Why well that all to answer and will be answered in a video lol.
Hi, Will you review GameSir latest controller T4 Cyclone Pro model on future video?
I will once it comes out or they send it to me 💪
@@PughsReview okay.
actually it already releases the pre-order.
@SAM-ef5bu good looking out I will check it out now thanks.
@@PughsReview great controller, its like G7 and G7 SE combined but sadly the apps to customize and update the controller is thru phone. Gamesir Nexus doesn't detect it.
@raffyluvmiharu it just came in yesterday I have a few options on it from just holding it, and I can't wait to play with it.
The tactile is a nice touch but the buttons on the back mean I'm not going to push them that much
me with small hands wanting zero stick drift lol
Xbox should make the next elite have hall effect, and when we plug it in its very low latency
💯 agree, no reason why it shouldn't be at this point.
@@PughsReview what would u want them to do?
So personally I'm with you I think that the controller should be someone like the new Turtle Beach stealth hall effect sensors Wireless with four buttons on the back. And with the option of plugging it in to be wired to be a thousand Hertz. I don't see why we can't have a thousand hurt controller now since the gamesir is.
Hello, one percent here. I just want to say this man knows his stuff.
I appreciate that I do try 😀
can you use these with android phone/tablet?
GameSir G7 SE vs GuliKit Kingkong 2 Pro. Who's better?
Good idea
If you’re playing on PC, the Kingkong 2Pro. If you’re on Xbox, the G7 SE, as it’s the only Xbox controller.
True but I keep hearing about the adapter that will alow other controllers to be played on xbox the goku I am going to get it and check it out
@@echosierra9990 play just football game on pc
The G7 SE is superior to the Kingkong 2 Pro due to the newer and better hall effect sensors.
Quality video!
Thanks 😀
make video on G7 se vs xbox controller
I'm no Xbox player, I'm on a PC Steam player. I'm using G7 SE in Cycle racing games.
I setup my Left stick Deadzone at 14 But Maybe I have to lower it because when I play Play Ride 4 I struggle making them sharp turns like it's not leaning my bike racing all the way, maybe it's because I set Deadzone at 14 and not tried it lower or it's because I have to be more precise and can't even move a little bit off and that can make it more difficult.
Edited: Aug 30th....I seen I had to set Left Deadzone to Raw, past the 100% max, but I still leave it to 14% for the center.
But when I play Mx-Bikes, it's a harder game to learn for beginners, it's as close you can get for a Simulator Dirt bike racing game.
I have no trouble in Mx-Bikes and just love it.
Mx-Bikes is such an awesome game because people so far made over 100 tracks and still making vary good motocross and Supercross tracks!, So many I can't even find the time to try them all.
You just add them tracks into your game Mods folder.
And I feel I must say a little more...can add extra Bike, Helmets, clothing designs.
Having Analog triggers for racing is a must have and can change it to instant trigger press for shooting games is awesome!
I wish I could extend the thumb sticks longer more though. Guess I need to look for Thumb stick extenders.
By the way Dead zone tv series was a great TV series lol.
Good advice check out kontrol freaks ps5 should fit in the g7se. If you on pc why not get the t4 it has hall effect and click buttons
@@PughsReview I have plans to get T4 but doing more research on it first to see if it's worth getting.
@mickh1475 got it I like mine i have a video on it as well
@@PughsReviewwhat is better, t4 or g7 se for pc. I want to play souls like games and racing games
@@Xillarron t4 for me
I personally dont like clicky buttons or clicky dpad. I find the noise annoying, and the feeling is not satisfying. So ide get the se
That works, too. Everyone has the own likes I get it. Enjoy.
Can you use kontrol freaks on the g7 se?
Should be the same as the g7 I have the ones that should fit in the description.
@@PughsReviewso the Xbox kontrol freeks don’t fit but the ps4 ones fit?
That's what fits the g7 I don't have them to be honest I looked it up and that's what I found so I assume the same applies t9 the se
does but the gamesir g7 and the gamesire g7 se both have hall effect thumbsticks?
Only the G7 se has hall effect
Hello! I only play FIFA, should I choose G7 or G7 SE? Thanks!
g7
Is there a app on the xbox for this controller
Yes, it's called Nexus.
Man, please use a compressor for your mic. Otherwise, great content
Too many odly placed buttons including the analogs being a little closer, I play claw and just pressing start and select trips me out. To top it off I need to hold the controller really retarted or else I end up pressing the back buttons since they are extremely sensitive.
I am definetly going to mod the hell out of the G7 SE. I really want to give the Hall effect analogs a chance. (Currently waiting for Marius is Xbox halleffects.)
(I am Adding trigger stops, moving both start and select down to xbox original positions, adding a stiffer spring on the paddles and def sanding down the edges an bit.)
The controller feels like a combo SNES and xbox 360 controller. The weird Playstation thumbsticks are annoying (the inner dome makes the edges on the analog useless. ) def going to replace with xbox one ones. The base is smaller in length. So people will have to sand them down.
You got your work cut out for you. I never could play claw you got that 9ver me for sure. I would assume more hall effects will come out eventually for Xbox hopefully lol
I got mine today, I feel like the dpad moves right/ left when I'm pressing down for some reason. Not sure if that's a regular fault. I also don't like where they put the start and back buttons. I'm used to them always being level with x but now their higher up level with y button
Sorry to hear that it felt great to me but I understand everyone has there style
If only it was wiredless I would get one right away...
It would cost a lot more if it was that. But I get it.
@@PughsReview Doesnt really matter if on the long run these controllers last twice or more as long as xbox or PS controllers with their cheap analog sticks. Enough of switching controller every 6-8 months.
I don’t have a PC to update. Will this still work on my Series S.
Yes there is an app on the Xbox for it
can these work with android? thank you
Got g7 se 2 weeks ago, I now have stick drift on both sticks. I had to increase deadzone on both sticks very disappointed. Trying to adjust attachments on MW2 last night, was impossible. Had to use d pad. Sending back for another one
That's crazy to think maybe it's a failing part like a spring not the actual senors, hopefully
@@PughsReview ya man, very disappointed. Love the controller tho, love it
@bw536 yea all the hype is around the sticks I believe you will be good
@PughsReview your controller constantly disconnecting after latest firmware update?
Mine came out of the box latest firmware unless there's a new update I'll have to check.
i just wish they made the se in black
The g7 plate fits the SE btw
I didn't like the back buttons, they are 2 flat for me.
Tired of gamesir cutting corners. They need to release a premium controller with hall sticks, wraparound rubber grip, mech face buttons, trigger stops, and make it wireless since powerA has finally got the first third party wireless controller, so it’s possible.
Which controller is that? For powera
@Triple9 did you check their newly release Gamesir T4 Cyclone/Cyclone Pro that is Wireless, Mechanical A, B, X, Y button, hall sticks, rear macro button
you use Rt Lb and paddles at the same time din
G7 is it good for rocket league?
You can make the triggers hair triggers with the software.
Yep I go over that I believe
sadly, amazon won't ship it to my address 🥺
I am trying to see if I can get links straight from ganesir to help with that. For now go over to there website see if they will ship to you.
So can you start your dead zone at 0 until you get stick drift
You don't get stick drift, we'll technically you can but will take long long long time
Well, if the high-rise spring stays good, you should be good.
the reasson it has 0.5 circularity is because of software deadzones
Oh, nice, thanks for the information.
If they release one with trigger stops I will buy IMMEDIATELY
They way they release controllers shouldn't be long wait 🤣
@@PughsReview 😭 well I got the SE anyways and with same day shipping I’m so hype it to be here by 10pm lol
Edit: it just showed up actually 😱
Go into the app and set the Trigger deadzones down so you will get 100% when you touch the triggers.
@@PughsReview Yeah I did that it’s really nice! I’m just sad about how they’re removing the 1000hz on Xbox that’s basically the only reason I bought it. I guess if you don’t go back to 250hz after updating then you can keep 1000hz but idk if they’ll ever fix the stick drift on 1000hz then.
@dummy8901 the 1000hz is back and here to stay you just lose wired headset port
Im a modern warfare 2022 sweat which one is better for me?
hi friend, I play FIFA and the A button comes out, I chose 7 thanks to you
Apparently though you may be a great player, you know not to much about marketing. Baby step's mean's update's, and updated controller's cause there to be more sale's of almost the same thing. Putting all the egg's in one basket, mean's you won't need a upgrade when trigger stop become avaible.
The "NO" drift is going to cost them money when one doesn't have to replace their controller every couple of month's. Having updated controller's by adding function's latter will cause sale's.
For fps control, it can't take kontrolfreek WTF !
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It's not the same measurement as the xbox s controller. I try it
They should have done 4 back buttons
We need this for sure
Tbh im good with 2, JUMP and crouch, im ok with Pressing Standard Buttons for reload and stuff. Sure, more is Always better
Shot my go to controller has 6 extra buttons 🤣
@@PughsReview i mean, yeah you can use Them all, there are enough Games that i cant Play with Controller cause of the Missing Buttons, Like flight Simulator, space engineers, and many more.
We also have Bad Movement and quick-menu Problems in all console Games cause the Games are Made for the Standard Layout with No Backbuttons. Its Not 2004 anymore, Backbuttons should be the Standard for many years
Does anyone know what the L3 and R3 button presses are like on a hall effect stick?
GameSir G7 SE vs 8bitdo Ultimate
I like it. 😀 might make it happen.
I did't get it 😭😭😭😭😭😭
8bitdo ultimate vs gamesir g7 se pls
I like it
Have the same issue with the se it sounds like its rubbing something on the thumbstick. Returning it. I went with the t4. Much better controller.
Yea the t4 is pretty good I warranty my se to see if I get another one like that.
Can the T4 work on xbox one??
Nope I hear there's a adapter to make ot work once i get it and test it i will make a video for it
Its rubbing because the left side anti friction ring (the blue ring around the sticks) isn’t machined quite perfectly so it isn’t perfectly smooth so it feels “bumpy” the right side feels very smooth tho, found this out after some critical thinking and grabbing the black faceplate off the g7 and putting it on the g7 se. No more rubbing, the black friction rings that come on the g7 are cut better cuz they are perfectly smooth on both sticks
@GlockSkills yea I noticed the same thing when I grabbed my g7 and tested the Faceplate so the bad thing is there's a bunch if these like that.
Can it be used on ps4???
There are adapter you can use to make it work
get the t4 kaleid
GameSir G7 SE or HyperX Clutch Gladiate
Gamesir for me maybe I'll do a comparison with them 2
i got the game pass
Wait what I took someone this long to get it lol congratulations 😂
@@PughsReview thanks i don't know either
still annoys me how the t4 kaleid isn’t compatible with xbox it’s basically both controllers combined would’ve copped, but the g7 is definitely the best out of the set
Yea, I wish we could have gotten it on the xbox
@@PughsReviewhey what adapter are you talking about that makes the t4 work for the Xbox?
@forestfinn7106 I haven't tryed it yet so i can't say if it will or not. But the goku adapter from gulikit I need to buy it and test it still
@@PughsReviewDid it work?
I bought a adapter but they are starting to not work since xbox did a update to block them unfortunately
What is the best for Fifa?
non se version
@@lachysimmonds357 the regular?
Thanks for answering
Yes the g7 with tactile buttons
Not worth to buy,.ine two month use after update new firmware it bo longer can be detected.
Gamesir g7, 6 months in, crazy stick drift on left stick. Can not get ahold of customer service. No place to file a claim even in their warranty section on the site. Google reveals tons of people saying even if you do get ahold of them, once you mention a return or warranty replacement they GHOST you. Terrible company.
SE all the way imo, can't beat HE sticks. As for fighting games it depends on what fighting game is your main game tbh, for example multiversus which is due to re-release soon I use the left stick for movement and the right stick for some attacks and the face buttons for other attacks.
Can’t get kontrol freeks on the g7 se so it kinda sucks
Xbox won't fit check the description for the one that will
They're PlayStation sticks. PS kontrolfreeks fit exactly.
i missed the code .. sadge
Dang it I will post them any time I have them so stay on the look out.
I just hate the color and lack of trigger stops
I don't mind the color but I agree needs trigger stops.
hi friend, I play FIFA and the A button comes out, I chose 7 thanks to you