Beautiful But Flawed Aliexpress Bike Tools.
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
- Aliexpress bike tools, not always as good as they look…
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0:00 Intro.
1:13 Wheel hubs and bearing press kits.
3:56 The New tools.
13:00 Demonstrating the tool kit.
31:22 Conclusions.
33:17 Ending.
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CZcams needs more videos like this. I am always looking for tools on AE, and knowing what works, and how well are immensely helpful
Thank you, I will try to make more… if budget permits. 😁👍🏻
Haha! Just found this video. I purchased this same kit about a month ago and was just stumped trying to find a spacer for outter races. I feel better now, it's not just me....
Unfortunately yes, we have both been had! 😂
Entertaining hand puppets...with great information. Love your work👏
Thank you kindly! I appreciate it. 🙏🏻🙂
The photo combination made me click on the video, what a perfect combination of images.
Thank you, yes I thought it was rather clever, I’m glad someone understands what I was doing. 😁🙏🏻
Great video, demonstrating what you encounter in real time like this is so useful, I’m sure I’ll be referring back to this video many times in due course. Lol.
Thank you 🙏🏻
beautiful and suitable for workshop decoration🚲🚲🚲🚲🚲
Yup 👍🏻
a small lathe will set you free I guess. works for me. cannot imagine having to do without anymore.. cheers.
I have been dreaming of buying one…
Cool Tutorial.
Got the same set 50% off...arrived the other day...similar QC, but overall happy.
Thank you! Good news at 50% off. 👍🏻🙂
Interesting set maybe wait for a revised set I have a dtswiss 240s hub to service for my specialized enduro.
There are definitely better sets available.
Push the outer race of the bearing with a used broken bearing of the same size.
If the bearings are broken or used they will have movement in the raceway, so as you apply pressure to the inner ring it will push on the inner ring of the hood bearing, but the outer won’t, because it has a small amount of movement or give in it.
That's what I did too. Just not ideal. I wish I found a drifter the same size as my 6902 bearing.
OMG! I made that exact same tool this past winter! (turned out I didn't need it tho...)
Ha ha nice. 😂
Thank you for an informative video. I can see a number of ways they might improve the kit but more parts equals more cost, and as you say its functional mode is not ideal.
The hub with the rattelly preload tube seems a bit iffy for actual preload.
Thank you kindly! 🙏🏻
Yes and that’s a DT Swiss hub body right out the plastic bag from the factory. Never used. Very odd. But thankfully I only use it for demonstrations. 😁
You can order different size drifts from Wheels Manufacturing. It's too bad that there aren't more sizes in this kit. The really sad piece of this for me is that the bike industry doesn't have more standardized sizes, so one could feel safe with buying any kit and know that they have the sizing that they need regardless of what brand something might be. Thanks for sharing!
That’s a really good point. 🙂 unfortunately the WM drifts are a different ID for the threaded rod, so I’m not sure that would work well?
Great comment all the same. 🙂👍🏻
@@reginaldscot165 Thanks for the info! I had not looked that up just yet, but appreciate your info!
The large sleeve seems suited for older (shorter) 9speed freehubs, this looks as if it's for older qr hubs.
I'd imagine they have another kit for thru axle hubs (with a larger screw) and a sleeve suitable for the longer 11sp freehub. Seems incredible that they don't have parts to press in new bearings, unless this is a 'removal only' kit.
Interesting, but they specifically mention and show a modern DT 240 hub? 🤷🏻♂️
Hey Reginald! What do you think about Mason? In the process of getting a ti bike from them. Any thoughts?
No personal experience.
If you are replacing a bearing, could you not use the old bearing on top of the new one to press it in ?
You could but you would still be only pressing against the inner race especially if the old bearing was worn.
@@reginaldscot165 Yes, we press the inner race, but so what if it is the race of a worn or damaged bearing, the new bearing is already pushed by the old one using the outer race and that's what @joystation1 meant i guess.
Maybe I now have an excuse to buy a mini lathe as I could then just knock up the exact drift for the bearing I'm working on. 👏
Me too.
Can you try to review zitto bearing press and I think it's a nice bearing installer and remover.
Yes I saw they make a nice one. 😁
I bought the Ztto set recently and I'm very happy with it. There are a few rough spots with the machining, but in general the kit is really well made and drifts are sized correctly.
For the bearing with the middle sticking out I would use a deep ratchet socket. For the missing part could you use a 14mm socket.
But I don’t think the Center of the socket would fit over the 17mm axle. (I have tried.) 😅
What about this?
1. could you drill the square part out using a step drill and use a wide flat washer between socket and press.
2. A 3/4 inch socket (I think air guns might use this standard)) has a bigger square, 19mm.
Coincidentally my friend came over today with a worn hub bearing…. Would you recommend this toolset understanding the compromise or do you suggest any alternative? It looks like it does the job but not in the ideal way.
I believe there are plenty of better products available, including on Aliexpress. I believe ZTTO brand has a kit in a nice hard plastic box that seems much better. But, I’d recommend you find a review on CZcams before spending any money. For me I can’t really recommend the kit in the video.
The handles come loose because the circular centre should have been counter bored so handle has a flat surface to seat on, but, for the price you can't expect $1500 tools design and finish.
Didn't watch all of video as I'm not in the marked for any of that stuff, but, I have subscribed after watching a few video's , like you delivery and teaching style.
Thank you and good observation. 🙂🙏🏻
Ordering a press from Alt Alt after watching your video, not as expensive as something like Wheels Manufacturing and it looks like it works. Their freehub bearing removal tool uses an offset hole instead of a puller, not sure about that, interesting though
Alt Alt? Not heard of that, will look it up. 🙂👍🏻
@@reginaldscot165 I’ve got my eye on the Alt/Alt hub kit as well. The drifts are made from acetal to keep costs down, so maybe not the most durable for a bike shop, but good enough for the home mechanic. The bearing extraction tool is clever because it’s an offset eccentric cam, and pushes bearings out using a screw motion. Made in Canada.
@@reginaldscot165 alt alt seems to be the perfect tool for bearings. But its made in plastic as far as i can gather. And we cant get it in europe ::(
It's more effective only for rb hub coz the axle is independent on thebearing
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for instalation if the bearing is retained on it inner diameter, as on a shaft, apply force to the inner race of the bearing. If the bearing is retained on the outer diameter, as inside a bore, force should only be applied to the outer race of the bearing.
For removing the bearing you can do it either way if you don't reuse them.
Yes
If you only plan to work on your own bikes I'd just get the drifts you need rather than a full set, combine with some threaded rod and the fancy handle of your choice and Bob's your uncle.
I know Hope sell a drift set for their hubs, I'm not sure about other brands?
For suspension bearing removal/insertion I love RRPs drift kits, you just buy the kit for the bearing sizes you have on your bike.
BTW, Hope hubs have an internal sleeve that makes bearing removal more complicated but they recommend, for their hubs at least, removing bearings with a pin punch. They even sell a special tool to hold the hub safely while you punch out the bearings.
Good point 👍🏻
What is the rod diameter? M8? M6? and thread? thank you. Want to combine with unior bearing tool :)
It’s coming out M5. 👍🏻
That golden kit replaces the two kits you showed previously in the video.
Not at all. This is definitely inferior.
We could use the old bearing to use as in the press
Yes 👍🏻
PS: bearing puller / hammer is probably the only way to go when doing bearing replacement in hubs. Just don't expect to reuse that bearing later.
Correct 👍🏻
Nice thumbnail 😉
Thank you, I think my thumbnail game is improving. 😁
just get some washers to touch the outher race if u dont want to mess up the ends pushing the tube thing u can prolly also use washers
Shame they didn’t include anything
a punch is honestly the easiest with freehubs, dirty as it seems 😂
Easy, like a hand grenade for fishing. 😅
If you could find a flat washer, or make one, with the correct internal and external size to go over that tube, problem solved. The washer would also spread the load to the outer race.
🙂👍🏻
Hi. You press the first bearing without the axle. And the second one ,on the short side of the axle (left side). Never simultaneously, you risk a bearing going sideways and destroying the hub.
I agree with you and that’s the way I normally do it but on this occasion the manufacturers of the press always show it being used in the way I demonstrate. I wanted to give it a fair test so I followed their instructions. 🙂👍🏻
Where was the video clip which opens your YT videos filmed? Does not look all thar tropical??
It was filmed 5 minutes from my home in Brunei. Are you familiar with many species of tree? What would make it look more “tropical.” 🙂
@@reginaldscot165 Thanks for info.
18:20 I'm pretty sure I saw this advertised as removal kit... so it is not designed to press in ;)
It doesn’t do anything well, but the Chinese video on Chinese CZcams shows it doing both. 🤷🏻♂️🙃
If you had a 3d printer you could print the required parts.
I was thinking that… I was also toying with the idea of getting a small lathe. 🤔😍
@@reginaldscot165 Pocket NC? 🤪
Your fear of damaging the inside race during installation is rational. I would have instinctually turned the shaft upside down so the washer like surface would touch the outer race, then threaded the bolt through and the turn key would rest against the bored side of the puller shaft. In other words, start turning the socket like things upside down even though it will take more screwing
Unfortunately the surface of the drift is too wide to push the bearings all the way in to any cup. It’s a daft design. 🤔
Acquired one of this kit and, I can say, it is half usable. Really hard to understand operation and the parts are for all the same inteligence: press or pull from inner race. Terrible! Partial solution is use old bearings to press new ones through outer race. And, macchine the useless parts that does not fit any standard hub/bearings to match our needs. Great video!
Great comment! Thanks! 🙂👍🏻
Yeah this kit has flaws, you really need to have over axle bearing adapter/ drift to push in bearing. I stumbled upon same problems buying this kit !!! In the end I was so frustrated not to find anything appropriate inside that kit that I wanted to buy lathe and make it myself 😠 I was looking for 6902 bearing over axle pusher. Nothing. What I ended up doing was to get old bearings to push in the new one. There is one catch though, you need lots of them over axle on hub side. Pressing on inner race is insane and a way to destroy your new expensive bearings. I'm still searching for solution. If someone finds anything appropriate please let me know.
Yes looks like you fell victim just as I did. 🫣
@@reginaldscot165 yeah, all shiny tools, really pretty but useless for modern disc brake hubs.
Are you sending back
No, I don’t think that’s an option. I will keep it and make something to improve it. 🙂👍🏻
That's a shame because with a bit more thought they have a beautiful piece of kit for very little money😢................never mind there's always the failsafe way to go.............. HAMMER it....😂 the you know who way 🎊🌟🥳🤩
I think with a few modifications I can make a good tool out of this. 😁
Regarding the issue of avoiding pressing against the inner race would a simple washer overcome the problem (assuming there is one which fits and has a suitable sized centre hold for the rod)
If not you could make one. 😁👍🏻
Novatec is actually a Taiwan brand, not China.
Well they are of the Chinese race and if you ask the government of mainland China they will say that Taiwan is part of China. 😉
@@reginaldscot165 well, if you were to ask anywhere else outside of China, or anyone else but the CCP, you'd most likely get the answer that island is independent with their own central government, their own democratic system (as opposed to totalitarian), transparent election, their own military etc.. Most anything that the CCP says contradict with the rest of the world. I'm not Taiwanese or live in Taiwan by the way.
why don't use just use the back side of tool just to press in the bearing instead of using the smaller end? lol
Because the back doesn’t correspond with the side of the bearing or the size of the hole I want to push the bearing into unfortunately. 🤷🏻♂️
you talk waving your hands like an Italian, well gotta go, biking 40 plus today on my ebike
My mother was Italian. 😎
@@reginaldscot165 HAH.. i knew it, my old mom was born in Ireland and being from Chicago back then you were one or the other
Why is my comment getting removed..?
Because you are a Hambini fanboi
@@ssenssel I've only ever made one comment on a hambini video and that was telling him gatorskins were a terrible choice for british roads... But interesting you remember that comment somehow.
@@thrawed Dude.. I'm kidding. And also I'm not Mr. Scott, The bike Sultan of Brunei.. 🤦♂😂
@@ssenssel It was a purely innocuous comment recommending a well known and affordable UK bearing press manufacturer over annodised aliexpress kits that have tolerance problems. I am a fanboy of noone.
@@thrawed Humm, too defensive.. now Imma assume you are actually a fanboi.. 🤔
Chinese are good at actually making stuff (producing, manufacturing), but not at designing. And here lies the problem. The kit is underdeveloped. For 80$ you are getting lots of tools, but making clip-on inserts to fix the issue of missing parts will set you back another $80 at machining shop, so this option is moot. At 160$ you'd find better kit for pressing the bearings in and out.
That’s a very good and well thought out point. 🙂👍🏻
I use an lbs... No tools needed!!
My LBS is full of tools 🤭 I just hope they don't know who I am referring too.
Lol
Hopefully hassle free!