OVERRATED? 922 Porsche GT3 Touring FIrst Drive Review
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2021
- This is the new Porsche 992 GT3 Touring and today we are driving both the manual and PDK Touring back to back on road and up the Goodwood Festival of Speed hill climb! Mechanically the new GT3 Touring is the same compared with the 911 GT3, meaning the 503bhp 4-litre naturally aspirated flat-six engine, double-wishbone front suspension and 20- and 21-inch forged wheels all remain. Kerb weight is also identical, at 1418kg for the manual and 1435kg for the PDK, and so too is the suspension setup, lets see how they compare in this first drive review...
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Touring is the One for Me ... She has Prettyyy Lines ... Love the painted Bumpers ... the Machine looks sooo Sharp ... thanks for sharing Porsche & James ... Cheers Gentlemen .
Painted bumpers look way better. Gives it a classy look as opposed to looking like plastic on the standard gt3
Painted bumper is absolutely stunning, love the car in silver
I'd love to see a comparison between the first GT3 Touring and the current model. IMHO, the "normal" GT3, esp the RS model, is often too "race car-ish" for me. The Touring variant envelopes all the great things about the Porsche GT3. And lets face it, even without all the wings and ducts and stuff, its still got plenty of presence.
Well said!
Great idea
That's how I see it... If I'd were to buy a Porsche it'd be because I want something outrageous that can ACTUALLY be daily driven, otherwise I'd but a Ferrari. But no Ferrari, or any manufacturer else for that matter, offers the "gt3" experience whilst keeping the daily driving capabilities. That's where porsche shines, a gt3 that I can drive painlessly to work, a small stop at the shop, cup of coffee with the most over developed cup holder, nice ride and when I decide, it turns into a gt3. It doesn't get any better than that as far as a car I'd actually love to live with... And for my wife an XC90 hybrid to move the kids around, she doesn't care lol
Owner of touring here, it’s still full blown GT3 on the road in terms of feel and stiffness but no rear wing. Also has a color matching front splitter to take off some visual “race car”.
Congratulations on your blast up the Goodwood Hill in that stunning GT3 Touring! What an experience.....also saw you queuing on the last blast of the day in that gorgeous Aston! I would love this Porsche GT£ Touring in my garage! Great video, thanks fella!
Speaking of your GT3. It would be interesting to see a cost breakdown of maintenance to get to 100K miles.
This clip underscores the difference between James and the profusion of CZcamsrs who review cars. He understands the subtle differences that define handling. So when he's discussing the characteristics of the new GT3 it isn't the pretentious posturing of most, it is the reliable opinion of a man who knows what he's on about. His comment on the front-end grip of the GT3 resonated with me. Enjoyed this all-too-short clip tremendously. Well done, James...
That looks more like motoring heaven than Goodwood.
I'm probably the only one that doesn't like the painted front bumper extension. Looks like a small duck lip. Not that the unpainted one is all that great either. The 992.2 is going to have the more traditional gt look - they do this all the time. Come out with one design that is slightly inferior and then the ".2" version will have a slightly more aggressive and pleasing appearance.
Really solid review of the pdk touring here. Could have been longer, and not gotten stale tbh. Really enjoyed that!
You pointed out something I noticed as well. I have a guards red 997. I saw pics of the 992 Gt3 touring in GR and loved the painted front end. As soon as your video went to the front of the silver I thought “umm, that doesn’t look so great”. Some colors it’s seems to work better.
I really like the painted bumper in silver.
I think having the lower cladding painted looks amazing!!! It gives the GT3 bumper more definition in my opinion!!!
The Touring is great and all but the Singer/Williams DLS in front is, as the kids say, life goals.
2 million vs 127K….
2:52 "we have a shmee150 in the wild, watching the aston martin valkyrie "
Well, that's ruined an otherwise great video...
PDK for me. Getting old and drive in the mountains on twisty roads. Tired of changing gears all the time. And PDK allows me to concentrate even more on braking and turning when going for it !!
Early reviews are that there is enough torque that constant gear changing is entirely unnecessary. That said, personally I like lots of gear changing in a good manual. Great fun....
@@gummiesrule88 True. I've been driving manual for 31 years to the point that i don't enjoy it anymore because it has become a reflex instead of a conscious gesture. PDK makes me feel like a hero... Maybe people who learned driving with an auto think manual are cool but for me manual has always been the norm and i've had enough of it !
@@ifonly4486 Funny, I've been driving a manual for 46 years, when I first learned to drive with a "three on the tree" manual, and I'd still pick a good manual over a double clutch tranny every day. And I have, in fact, made that choice repeatedly in the years since. As far as being a hero, a perfectly executed heel and toe shift at speed on a track is as close to heroic as I can get. The PDKs are amazingly good boxes for efficient, quick shifts. And very cool, at least at first. But over time, they take some of the fun out of the dance between man and machine....
@@gummiesrule88 True and that's why i respect people who prefer a manual over a pdk. Thanks to Porsche for listening and offering both boxes though ......
Body coloured front Bumper is OFF THE CHAIN MEGA. A completely new look and I love it
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That Singer DLS tho, holy cow, that is gorgeous!
I think this is the GT3 for me. Stunning 😍
Was that Shmee next to the Valkyrie at 2'50" ? Touring looks nicer, getting older means I'd feel self conscious with the wing & don't need it anyway. Looks beautiful in blue & bumper looks fine...That Singer though!! 🔥
An added bonus to the design of this car would be ….. seeing as there is so much more luggage space in the rear perhaps Porsche should think of having the rear window opening like McLaren 57GT making it far more easier to drown in bags etc …… just a thought …… front end design is spot on ?
thanks for this James , thanks for being honest about it as well
The manual touring is the pick for me. The hood is a little weird with the vents, but overall I love it.
You can get 2 Corvettes
It’s the front bumper for me. Reminds me of a fish
chamade166 but you can have 1 GT3 Touring !
@@chamade166 Why would I want two cars that are the same that look like they were styled by someone who only had access to a ruler? And there's no manual option.
@@chamade166 Vette is trash can with wheels compared to Porsche.
That’s some great driving, James!!
The wheels on the 991 to me had the best looking rims ever. I miss them on this gen.
Can’t wait to see your new GT3! 👀
That is a beautiful spec. The blue with the bright trim around the windows. Looks like a brand new classic car.
Love the front boot oddly with those dips!
Any chance you can tell me the brand of your sunglasses - they’re awesome. And great video!!
The good thing is that one has the choice between a painted - or not - front bumper ! I personally prefer it painted, but then I’m no fan of silver metallic (whatever the car). Great video, as always !
Totally agree on the silver painted bumper. James not quite right... better in Gentian blue
Great video James!!I would pick the pdk due to the “touring” character of the car!!
Nah, you want the manual for the touring because it's more about driver involvement. Get a PDK Turbo for cruising
The issue of course is that you can’t actually buy one. Porsche needlessly limits production and dealers allocate them to favourite customers who may well then flip them for a profit. My dealer told me one customer had bought £1m of other cars to get one. There’s currently one for sale at £275k, £100k more than a heavily spec’d one costs at list. I have a 991.1 PDK and a 991.2 manual. I tried to get a 992 and failed so I am buying an 812 GTS instead. At list.
the darker cars look fine wirth the body color but the silver one I agree with you would look better with a black insert
That Blue GT3 seems to be the perfect car for going to the opera in Vienna, no doubt it will blend very nicely!!
Man that is one beautiful machine! Porsche does such a great job with all aspects of their GT3 & GT2 regular and RS models! That color & spec is awesome. Porsche, Aston Martin & Ferrari do such an amazing job with every aspect of their vehicles Inside & Out.
That's exactly the point!
You can have GT3 daily driving experience not having to look like a douche on the road with that massive wing!
The GT3 Touring is the road car and the GT3 is the track car! PDK and Manual available on both is optimal too!
The fact that it's a perfect copy of the GT3 is a pro not a con imo. Or people would just buy the GT3 and remove the wing.
Most people are not comfortable with modding cars btw. Another reason for the Touring to exist.
Also an excuse for those who can to buy both!
The track car with all the light weight stuff like bucket seats focused on performance and safety with the cage in a crazy color.
And a road car more focused on drive enjoyment and comfort in a more subtle color and bigger fuel tank.
I think it's perfect! I will certainly have both!
colored bumper looks amazing.. i would also go with exterior color on side mirrors..
I think I'd get a darkblue with chromed windows surrounds and silver wheels. In my opinion it suits the understatement of the Touring Package a bit better. But to each his own.
Agree! Manual with adaptiv seats and yellow stitching / break calipers for me. Plus the Carbon Roof of course.
At first, I thought the body coloured bumper didn't look too nice but after a few minutes I kinda like it. It gives the touring a distinctive look!
Love the colour. The way it catches the light and changes. Wonder what it would look like with some sun and blue sky... And usually hate grey cars.
Great video , thank you !!!!
That GT3 Touring🤤🤩
I would love to be able to experience a gt3 touring someday. These things are too rare.
Good to see your Video's Mr. JWW! My question to you is....... If both models, the GT3 Touring and the Turbo S were priced the same. Which one would you pick and why?
damn it, i can't stop looking at the body color front.
the painted bumper looks much, much better, Porsche should have introduced the standard GT3 with this. What an improvement!!!
Amazing how Porsche do it.... better and better.
Never heard about a Tesla plaid, really 🤔
@@UncleTonyshotsauce or just don't care?
I ALMOST fell for that! I was like damn that was one REALYA FAST shift! I knew 🔥🔥🔥🔥🤩🏎
Carfection did a short video at goodwood with the singer if you are interested
PDK with the touring package is my cup of tea.
Also, like the painted front end....I'll take mine in shark blue.
Love the silver front bumper 😍
Can you do a comparison between gt3 touring 6 speed manual model vs singer porsche dls? Which has the better driving experience especially as a GT?
Oh man that DLS!
The manual Touring is indeed nice in dark colors. Not a fan of the rear side view though, without the wing or some kind of kicked-up tail it looks a bit...incomplete?
Makes it a little bland for my taste.
I mean, I get that having an auto box is more convenient and easy to live with.. But when did using a clutch and changing gears manually become such a chore that they'd have to throw the PDK into the mix? 😂
Love the painted bumper as well. More sophisticated.
Totally agree with your logic on Touring GT3
I will turn back my GT3 Touring to black "lower bumper" ( ^ ^ b, Thks for making good video & sharing.
I think the carcolored "splitter"looks awesome, the black one sits out to much for my taste. in the silver one i would also option for the bonnet opening nostrels? to be silver as well, the stand out way to much now..the touring has a spoiler on the back (like the normal carrera), if it has that you might as well go for the normal GT3. I would, in bright orange, mint green or silver.....
Personal preference but I’d feel a bit conspicuous with a huge rear wing on the back of my road car. To the extent that the Touring would be the only GT3 for me.
They missed a trick softening the dampers/springs off, could really have been a nice differentiator. Should really come with more all-weather biased tyres too. Reviews of the new GT3 suggest it's too busy on the road, though JWW seems to say it isn't?
I didn’t think so but importantly considering the new suspension and rose joints it’s particularly well calibrated.
@mr JWW, what jacket is this? Looks fantastic mate!
@2:50 a wild shmee pops up
I was wandering if the rear spoiler on the gt3 touring is the same one as the carrera s/4s one. If yes I thinks tath might be really the crucial point become that think is much more good-looking than the gt3 one
If I had the budget for the new GT3 there would be one sat on the drive along side my 986 Boxster S what an awesome looking car.
Looks like an MGF from the front 😎
That singer porsche though....lovely!
in silver I agree it looks funny, but in black it looks incredible!
much prefer the black window trim on the silver car. And the PDK, too. : D
Your analysis of the PDK in the Touring is very pragmatic and mature. Refreshing.
James, would it be possible for you to review a 718 GT4 RS? It would interest me to know your impressions between the Cayman and a 911 GR3 RS.
Agree w/ all you say, BUT, as a Biz Exec who no longer commutes, I see no reason to have the PDK for, as you say, a more compliant DD proposition. Manual still rules for all GT3 spirited road driving (Touring or otherwise).
Amazing GT3. Also, how about that cool old school GTS Cayenne!
Great review! If you didn’t have your manual 991.2 and you were to spec a touring would you personally spec it with PDK or manual ? Thanks
Hi James your Blue Leather Jacket - what Brand is that ?
I’m sure I am in the minority, but I like the winged model and prefer the black bumper insert. And I’d need to see it in person, but also not sure about the texture interior trim. So, I’ll have the agate GT3 manual with buckets, yellow stitching and chrono face to match the new gauges and “GT3” logo. Perhaps that is because that is what I’ve ordered…
Considering many - if not most - GT3 Touring lucky owners won’t be going on track with their car, I think a good ol’ manual box (especially with 6 gears) is quite appropriate for the ultimate driving pleasure on open roads, twisties and mountain passes. Keep the PDK for Nürburgring lap times 😅
A modern gem
yes
JWW you missed the Porsche History class. The original 911 Touring model was the 911 ST. Touring mean for that car....fast and very sporty, not like a GT type car or emotion at all.
UNa prova diversa dal solito senza le menate tecniche che tutti conoscono ma un commento su estetica e le effettive differenze. Ma da un punto di vista della guida al Ring la GT3 touring avrebbe ottenuto lo stesso tempo della GT3 con l'ala?
Can't wait for ipe and sharkwerks to get their hands on the this platform
Absolutely love my manual 991.2 gt3 and cannot see me going down the 992 route
Just a respect to the company to bring manual in this era 🖖
I do like the symmetry of the touring front end. The black touring's grill disappears with no details to enjoy.
Not only is the touring available in PDK it’s not also offering in MORE colors!!!
D. L. S right. That's me for today. Going for a quiet lie down.
Stunning porsche
I'm with you prefer the look of darker colour don't like painted body colour on light car
I wish they got rid of the bonnet holes for the touring. Really would have cleaned up the aesthetic
wow, no VIEWS. excited to see it.
I feel like the 991 is the better daily being softer and less darty.
drive both so you can tell us how you really feel
Hmmm yeah I’d go with the painted bumper. It my opinion it looks more race car 🏎
That front bumper shouts Halfords Corsa, if it had a boot it wold contain a sub woofer.
With this painted front bumper it reminds me the 993
Prefer the body colored front bumper because when it’s a different color it sort of sticks out more and looks a bit ugly to me
Ah yes Porsche... They've done it again... I think the coloured front bumper works with the silver car... Not so sure about other colours... I have one for sure..oh in fact I'd have 2...one manual one PDK.
Does JWW go bed in that leather jacket? its been boiling hot and still he's got it on :-)
Am I seeing things, or does the silver car have a manual gearstick despite having flappy paddles?
you can switch to use the gear selector. Watch remove before races video that was just posted - it's in depth
No the silver GT3 is the PDK version.
I wish the 992 gt3 had the painted bumper. That was one thing that caught my eye right away when they revealed it for the first time. I have a 991.2 and the painted bumper looks so good, couldnt imagine it half black and plastic looking like the 992.
There is nothing to stop you going to a reputable body shop and getting the front bumper painted if you feel it would look better.
Jonathan White True, but we are talking about a 200k car….I’m not into spending more money to have a painted bumper.
@@hpman911 But thats the point, purchase a 200k+ car and the bumper isnt painted....
Get it wrapped
Maybe 4 seats would make up a great spec for the touring version, would make it more approachable for even more people
I actually wish that they would offer a rear seat delete option on a regular Carrera