Testing new Bilstein B6 EDC adjustable dampers on our BMW F80 M3
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- We've worked closely with Bilstein for years and have been eagerly awaiting their EDC compatible dampers for the F8x platform, so when a set of B6 EDC dampers arrived at our door we spared no time getting them fitted, keen to see what difference the experts at Bilstein have cooked up!
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Great video. I'm looking at these for my F30 340I with EDC. Loved how you removed/install springs with the weight of the car and without spring compressors. It's easy, and so much safer that way.
You won't be disappointed. It is a great suspension solution.
Love your channel, don’t know how I missed it before. Looking forward for the track actions!
Loved watching the rear beat belt G force meter showing the cornering speed Keep up the great vids.!
I fitted b6 edc to m5 e60 and improved things a lot!
helicrazee Could you tell more about the upgrade? How old were your shocks, how was the height.. differences in each mode etc.. thinking of doing it on my aswell
Our roads in the UK are so crap ! So fitting that kit is improving a great car 👍
Nice job! Just some advice from my days working in chassis testing, I would recommend not tightening any suspension joint until the weight of the car is on its wheels otherwise you will pre load the bushes which will create excess noise/vibration and harshen the ride. Also it could cause premature wear on the bushes. ws.
Didn't know that! How, logistically, do you tighten them while the car is on the ground? Do it on an alignment rack?
@@ofValor yes that’s right an alignment rack is ideal or any car lift that keeps the weight of the car on the wheels. Then loosen off the bolts and re-torque
Great video Evolve Automotive. They honestly bring joy to my day 👊🏾 haha
Your videos are great with very good and interesting info! Keep them coming 💪🏻💙🤘🏻
Yo Imran, Looking forward to this one. Spotted these on the net recently but like you say next to no vids on driver impressions. Thanks for the upload 🤘🏻
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I see this channel smashing through 100k+ by December easy (only if u have the time)...your videos are so informative bro... you’re not like the other youtubers click baiting and waffling for about 10minutes about something that has nothing to do with the video...straight to the point...quality content...i wanna see more appearances from rick LLF, MSL (i wanna see the tuning M/// vs AMG rivalry😭💪), joe (the m lite guy lol) bla bla bla many more names...keep the good content coming!
Thanks! It's exactly what we set out to do. You'll see more collabs with these guys soon. 🙏
Yeah really enjoying all the content on this channel too!
thanks
Nope. 32k
This car is turning into a masterpiece, great work Imran.
Thanks. Actually beginning to like the way it drives now. The M2 has spoilt me
Man I sure hope I can make it to evolve one day, I love everything you guys do, even more so cause I’m a BMW guy 👌🏽
Thanks man 🙏
The Problem with modern Sportcars is that they are way to hard.
Thea fake Spotines with to hard dampening for the average people that don't know better.
Sorry for my Bad english i hope everyone understands what i want to say.
Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
@@johnmcintyre7039 i would say the only real "fix" is a good set of Coilovers with individual rebound and compression settings.
Like a KW V3
Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Professional as always. . Much respect.
Bilstein's site tells me there's no EDC option for the F10 / F11 yet. I'm on Eibach springs but factory EDC shocks - looks like I'll be removing the EDC soon when I want to replace the shocks.
Suspension reviews of this quality are rather hard to find, thanks evolve! Wish Bilstein would have this B6 damptronic available for all mercedes AMG/AMG line, though the cars are beautifully made, majority of them have harsh ride. 😅
Thanks! Look into the MSS triple rated springs. They help a lot with ride quality.
Taking an M3 F80 suspension to the limit on rough roads? Subscribed!
Been waiting for this!!
Love these videos. Keep up the good work.
Thanks and we will 🙏
Just upgraded to Bilstein B6 damptronic on my 140k km Golf GTI MK7, together with all brand new top mount, bumpstop and stab link. I must say it is a worth upgrade! Generally the ride is more rounded feel with improve car control. I will have details review on my channel soon!
Cheers from 🇲🇾
I am considering same setup as well with my mk7 gti.. looking forward for the vid!
Love to join you on any track day and we can match it against my stock F80 Competition pack 😁
it was a way overdue mod for this car, congrats on being the pioneer once more !
Question: Should you make or not a new alignment, after you install new shocks ?
Since no adjustment points were touched there’s no need to get an adjustment. The ride height actually raised a little from the fresh dampers which would equate for an alignment but we expect that to settle fairly quickly.
If in doubt always get it checked as most good places will offer free checks and just charge for adjustments. But general rule of thumb is if none of the adjustment points have been touched and the ride height hasn’t been altered there’s no need for an adjustment.
It’s a good idea to get it checked now and then to ensure correct handling characteristics and tyre wear.
Evolve Automotive cheers for the reply and explanation! 👍
Imran, do you think the oem brakes are good enough for track work? Great vid, love the technical aspect to your vids. Btw bring some more z4m products out!!
Not really the best person to ask as I’ve never taken this on track and on the road they get nowhere near the same abuse. I’ve taken my M2 out on track but it has carbon ceramics fitted.
Bilstein been in the game a while so will know a thing or two about suspension. Good job on explaining the differences the upgrades made
They practically invented the damper
I love the Bilstein B12 kit (Eibach springs with Eibach ARBs) on my 335i. I'm assuming the springs here are Eibach too.
No they are Intrax
whats the cost for this set up
Great work man...👍👍👍😁😁
Going up and up now joining forces with car wow. Just seen the m3 vid next try m5
Thanks! Have to see if they invite us back, and what they’d choose to compete against our F90 M5 😈
Imran will u be looking in the new M3 when it comes out in future i have M4 cp didn’t like it when first got it i though i was to spikey as i bought it new but now with 7 thousand miles handles better an got to know the power bit better love what your doing to your M cars nobody else is doing this to there M cars as a M man myself love your videos PEACE
Thanks man. Yes we will be getting a new M3 as soon as its released
I picked up my MSS springs from Evolve this week and there really good, Could i fit B6s to my M2C ???
Great to hear you’re enjoying the MSS!
Yes M2’s with EDC will also be compatible with our B6 EDC solution, drop us an email on sales@evolveautomotive.com for more info.
Interesting Video Imran, do you feel with changing the damper on my standard M4 would make a big difference.
Also would you say even though changing the dampers , suspension etc make a difference would tyres come in to it ??
As said in the video I was impressed by the difference they made to the standard EDC dampers.
Anything between the road and the chassis will play in to it, you can get stiffer or softer tyres that can effect ride quality and handling. The only thing we changed in this video was the damper and we were happy with the difference!
@@EvolveAutomotive But in the vid you also change the wheels and tires, plus the springs weren't stock either.
Love the sound of the exhaust. Need one for my m2 n55 ;)
N55 engine is much easier to make sound good! We have a full Supersprint on ours it sounds 🔥
Evolve Automotive 😁👌
hi, great video, thanks so much 👍👍👍
i am thinking to get these dampers for My 16' M3 and keep the stock Springs...
Do you think the ride height might get bit Higher After fitting B6's?
Thanks a lot
Thanks! We hope it makes you make an informed decision. Yes it will sit marginally higher with these as they are gas filled also. Let is quote you if you are interested in buying. sales@evolveautomotive.com 👍
@@EvolveAutomotive
i am Still reserching as to what would me the best setup for my needs...
I am Not into loerring the car, just jant better dampening... however wouldn't want to go higher either...
I am also thinking Abt B16 (non edc) setup and AC Schnitzer RS adjustable coilovers...
Do You Have any info as to which coilovers are more comfortable?
Thank You Very much
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Do they run off the stock dampening settings or is it changed to what bilstein thinks works with these shocks better?
There wouldn't be much meaning to produce a damper that is exactly the same as the stock one..
I am running kw coil overs on my f 80, rough ride and sometimes some squeaking, what’s your opinion on kw coil overs ?
Haven't had a lot of experience with KW we have always used Bilstein Coilovers
My F31 m sport front edc is leaking so I’m looking at replacing all 4 with the B4 edc ones. What springs would you say best to use to lower the car maybe 20mm. Don’t want to go too low for speed bumps.
We would always recommend the MSS as the ultimate spring setup. Failing that you could look at Eibach’s offerings, they tend to pair well with Bilsteins.
Dying to get these in HD for my Mini F56. I know they make them for other UKL platform BMW’s, just not for Mini’s equipped with the DDC suspension. Wondering if you have a dialog with Bilstein, maybe you can find out if that’s something in the works?
These took over 3 years to come to market. Im not sure they are planning anything for the mini. I can ask but have not seen anything from them about this
Evolve Automotive I appreciate it. Thanks for the response.
I saw your race with car wow. Why didn’t you take the F90 M5?!!! 😭😭😭 Show them what you’re truly capable of! And I want to see the difference between the standard F90 and the competition. Make it happen! 🙏
It’s the car they invited! Plus our F90 M5 was Stock at the time of filming so its kinda obvious how it would have played out 😂
When we get a competition in we’ll do a video on the dyno and road testing to see how it compares to our stock car.
How much heavier are the B6 dampers compared to the aluminium OEM dampers?
We noticed they were heavier but didn’t weigh them, a kilo or so maybe, not a huge amount but definitely something we noticed.
Did you notice any increase in ride height after fitting , the spring perch looks different to the oem strut
Not with this spring set up. Never tried it with OEM springs
Evolve Automotive ok thanks I’m going to be using the Eibach pro kit with the B6 Damptronics and heard the front sits a few mm higher which I’m glad of ,this is on a 140i
I’m currently torn between Öhlins road and track and these B16s for my zcp e92. I guess the only advantage with the b16’s is the ability to retain edc functionality. What do you guys recommend?
Haven’t tried the R&T to comment but know it is a superb setup. Whether the ability to keep EDC outweighs that depends on your usage. If it’s an every day car and you drive some rough roads that adjustability might be worth it.
Evolve Automotive thanks!
I know this video is old I hope you can give me advice I’m torn between bilstein b16 and b6 on the video I’m using my car daily on the worst streets of LA thanks
B6 if worried about comfort
who drives in comfort mode?? great video
People who drive the car every day?
is there an EDC system available for the m2?
This is for cars that already have edc. The M2 doesn't
Which edc code u use? Cs code or stock? Which is better?
We have normal Comp Pack EDC at the moment. We will try CS soon.
sick wheels - what are they?
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It would be ideal to test the Alpina's suspension version for the M3.
For the ultimate comparison ...would like to
A) Alpina's version vs Alpina suspension w/MSS springs
B) Bilstein EVO S vs Nitron Coilovers
C) Nitron Coilovers vs Ohlins
D) Nitron Coilovers, Ohlins, and Spax w/ MSS springs
E) Spax coilovers vs Nitron coilovers
F) Bilstein EVO S vs EVO R vs Bilstein Club Sport w/MSS springs.
If you're willing to fund this test let us know!
@@EvolveAutomotive You've asked.. is there any projects or request viewers may have. It was not mentioned that it was contingent on funding. Along those lines ... there was not even a PayPal link mentioned with the invitation for any request, ideas or suggestions. Many channels make it well known that...they are not paid by any commercial sponsors and it is strictly an out of pocket expense and donations are quite welcomed.
We are a business, so anything we do on CZcams has to make financial sense. We try our best to be as free of bias as possible and choose not to push products too hard. The channel is supported by product sales, and all our amazing customers who choose us.
Thanks for the suggestion but that would be a seriously expensive video to produce!
@@EvolveAutomotive Much Thanks, ... I was actually suggesting each letter as an option at a time, if possible. No, not everything mentioned in one video. Yeah, that would be too much.
Smooth BMW lol.. Look at him bouncing around even after the modification.
The whole point was that we were testing them on roads that really upset the standard damper, meaning the car was struggling for grip 🤦🏻♀️
What would be the difference between these the B16's?
B16s are a firmer ride more focused on track work whilst still being usable on the road. They also come with springs and have height adjustability.
They’re similarly priced but for 2 different audiences. If a full road car we’d recommend B6 along with an MSS spring kit for the perfect setup.
Evolve Automotive Evolve Automotive yes I don’t do much track work but do drive the car hard and also have many twisty roads here so I want to eliminate the exact pitch/roll the body does when going fast around corners.
MSS = M performance HAS? If B16 would be too extreme for normal driving I was thinking B6 with Emanuelle design springs.
So you would say with these B6 shocks it has eliminated the pitch fully? I wouldn’t mind running B16’s if it was 100% going to eliminate it with a little bit of a harder ride. Thanks for the hasty reply 👌🏽✌🏽
To drive fast on unsmooth roads you need compliance. B16 may be better suited to you.
MSS is a company that makes a height adjustable spring kit that performs better than anything we’ve tried.
Of course you’re also comparing B6 with EDC to B16 without EDC, so there’s a sacrifice of electronic dampening control when considering the B16, whether that’s important to you or not.
I thought this is the M3 that recently dragrace with M5 in Carwow
Yes same car
Hi, Johnny from Sweden here. Thanks for the Review. This could be intresting for me on my M4 Comp pack. One thing that i don't really like with the M4 is that the rearend doesn't give you the planted feel and confidence when you push it on the limit of grip. As the Engine is so responsive it puts out so much torque so fast that the rearend tends to brake loose very Quick. If this suspension improves the feel for the rearend it would be great, making you go faster on the limit of grip as confidence of what is going to happen is better. Would you say that this is something that is considerably improved?
Thanks, Johnny Lehti
Hello Johnny. Yes we noticed an improvement in this as the tyres seemed to have more contact with the road in these situations especially on roads that are not that smooth. Another thing that will help you is to update the traction and diff software in the car to the GTS version
Thanks for your reply! Sounds good! I have to Think about this and maybe invest in them in the near future then. Good to know that you also recommend the GTS diff update. Many thanks!
Johnny Lehti
5:02 why not coilovers?
Technically the fronts are Coilovers 😉 but without being pedantic there’s not always a need for an adjustable spring perch and the extra cost that comes with these.
As said in the video we are looking at two solutions to pair with these dampers, a fixed height spring that will suit most people, and an adjustable spring for those that want to tweak the stance.
Evolve Automotive gotcha, was curious when I didn’t see a threaded body or any type of adjuster.
nice job
Thank you Amber Zara 🙏
whats you favourite car
I don't know many@@EvolveAutomotive
@@syedsfabbas out of our cars the BMW M2
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, That sounded ao awesome!
Shocks seems like overdamped for some road conditions. Especially 10:22 I see that shocks react to road too much and it shakes the car couple of times. Imran can you comment about this if you see this comment? I bet you no longer use them in this car. Thanks
They are still on the car and anyone who drives it comments on how much better than stock they are. The ride quality these provide either on their own or with the MSS springs is nothing short of fantastic.
These have been back ordered-since 1999🤣
You're not wrong 😂
What's happened to the Audi
Nothing. Why?
@@EvolveAutomotive just ed haven't seen any updates mate am an audience fan😎
@@spencersingh3833 have 5 project cars including the RS3 to work with so they all get a fair turn. Next Audi video will be on Friday :-)
@@EvolveAutomotive cheers mate
First view. First like. First comment. Comment.
Need to stop watching your videos, making me want to trade in my rs3 for a m3
We do RS3 videos too! Of Eventuri’s project car 😛
Evolve Automotive eventuri intake is next mod on the list to buy for my car, love the way they sound and look 👌
Drop us an email when you’re ready to buy 🔥 sales@evolveautomotive.com or just visit our website ✌🏻