Will A High Pop Count Doom Bedard's Young Guns? The Anatomy Of A Good Trade w/ Loud Collector & More

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  • čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
  • On this episode of the Hockey Cards Gongshow podcast we start by honoring the NHL's (almost) greatest player to wear the number 94 for episode 194 (8:21). Next, Phil The Loud Collector returns for really the whole episode but he helps break down the anatomy of a good trade (18:57). In hobby news, we update The Road To Infinity, Utah narrows it's name search to a final list of six potential team names, and there's new PSA upcharges...yay (58:52). Will a high population count for the Connor Bedard base Young Guns PSA 10 ultimately doom it's market value (1:14:24)? We look at the top five highest selling Synergy cards of all time, then each share the new hockey cards release we are most excited about (1:30:54). We answer your mailbag questions (1:48:21), then finish the show with personal pickups (2:29:57).
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Komentáře • 42

  • @gomesyontube
    @gomesyontube Před měsícem +6

    I agree with LOUD PHIL - grading companies do not care about the hobby. KEEP YOUR CARDS RAW!

    • @newfiesig
      @newfiesig Před měsícem

      Grading companies care just as much as the card manufacturing companies... it's all a business with the goal of turning a profit.

  • @rposportscards3951
    @rposportscards3951 Před měsícem +1

    First time listener and fairly new to the hockey collecting scene, but I loved the show! Very insightful, wholesome and just fun! Will be tuning in to future shows

  • @briandelauro3471
    @briandelauro3471 Před měsícem

    I was thinking the same thing about some of the synergy cards being like essential credentials - those cards in synergy and really nice. I ripped a box for the first time this year and was actually really impressed by quality of the cards. I think I’m going to buy select synergy stuff for PC purposes occasionally now (before I would have never considered it)

  • @briandelauro3471
    @briandelauro3471 Před měsícem

    Also really looking forward to that ex-2001 set

  • @Dav3Campb3ll
    @Dav3Campb3ll Před měsícem +3

    Louds crew!

  • @gomesyontube
    @gomesyontube Před měsícem +2

    The Trio we all needed

  • @brynorth3586
    @brynorth3586 Před měsícem +3

    That Heaters Trojan horse actually had me laughing 😂

  • @chuckm4nd3r
    @chuckm4nd3r Před měsícem +1

    I know on Parkhurst Champions for the Veterans and Legends the back just says used in an official game, not explicitly an NHL Game like I've seen on other cards.

  • @ugghhhyoutubeisawful646
    @ugghhhyoutubeisawful646 Před měsícem +1

    beauty #10 @55:40 - hawerchuk was my babysitter a couple of times when i lived in a small enclave outside of the shhawaa. just sayin'😋

    • @hockeycardsgongshow
      @hockeycardsgongshow  Před měsícem

      Thanks for chiming in....awesome card. That's quite the babysitter too!

  • @kylecameron4705
    @kylecameron4705 Před měsícem

    Great episode, you guys are great, Phil is the man👍

  • @swneighbours
    @swneighbours Před měsícem

    90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border. I went card hunting a couple weeks ago at a Walmart out of town and they had a full-blown Dominos Pizza in it; never seen that before.

  • @CraigsCards
    @CraigsCards Před měsícem

    kinda liked the quiet new guy! he will find his voice in the hobby soon...

  • @henryschmitt4970
    @henryschmitt4970 Před měsícem

    I might have missed it, but one thing I don't think you explained with the PSA upcharge was that it includes "insurance" for the authenticity of the card. PSA is really the only grading company that stands behind their slab by paying out for faked/altered cards that were not caught in the grading process. There are numerous soccer stickers that have been faked over the years (Ronaldo rookie sticker/Messi Este sticker/etc) that have made there way into Beckett/SGC/CSG and PSA slabs. People are still buying these faked stickers due to being slabbed. PSA is the only company that I am aware of that reimburses customers on these in PSA slabs. It has almost come to the point that many soccer collectors will only by PSA slabs due to the payouts if later determined fake (which is partly funded by the upcharge on these more expensive items)

    • @brynorth3586
      @brynorth3586 Před měsícem

      It's sadly hilarious that they force the end consumer to pay "insurance" which really only covers psa inability to properly authenticate a card. How can they possibly justify it as a premium to cover the cost of their own mistakes (while having the side benefit of good PR when they do mess up) is beyond me

    • @hockeycardsgongshow
      @hockeycardsgongshow  Před měsícem

      It's a good point and we didn't mention it so thank you for chiming in. I do feel like they should stand by their own work or make any sort of insurance you might want an elective charge.

    • @henryschmitt4970
      @henryschmitt4970 Před měsícem

      @@hockeycardsgongshow Agreed that they should get it right the first time and stand by their work, but it appears for the most part that PSA is the only one fixing their mistakes and paying back owners of cards for those mistakes, and the upcharge is what they point to that allows that. Since that "insurance" stays with the slab and not the original submitter, it means anyone buying a legit PSA slab gets that benefit if they purchase that slab at a later time. There is a case of a $100K Messi sticker that was purchased that was later shown to be fake, and PSA corrected that error by paying the owner (from what I heard, no first hand knowledge). There are a number of faked items in Beckett slabs that Beckett fails to do anything about. Granted, I think it makes less sense on Modern cards, but there was that recent news story of fake Victor Wembanyama prizms. In all honesty, I would prefer a grading company that just does that insurance aspect and throws the grading part out the window

  • @Hockeycardhangover
    @Hockeycardhangover Před měsícem

    Pop counts matter!!

  • @rs500gsoat
    @rs500gsoat Před měsícem

    Hype always beats logic when it comes to card collecting.

  • @Sebby25
    @Sebby25 Před měsícem +4

    PHIL!!!! Again!!! 😮

  • @DynastyCentralSports
    @DynastyCentralSports Před měsícem

    I don’t think there’s flippers staking out targets for Series 2 in my area, it’s 3 months since release and there’s zero retail product on retail shelves. But enough at the LCS with the up charge price. I kept hearing how much this product was overprinted.

  • @justhockeycards
    @justhockeycards Před měsícem

    I'm convinced that @theloudcollector is one bad cup of coffee away from being on the evening news.

  • @RCA_Dome
    @RCA_Dome Před měsícem

    Bedard is just like Wembayama. Priced in. 7 championship baked into the hype. At least McDavid is actually good.

  • @zachlenentine2844
    @zachlenentine2844 Před měsícem

    I think the BGS pop of the jagr, mcdavid, and bedard also have to be factored in when talking about viability as I assume there are not nearly as many bedards as jagr (1000 9.5+) or mcdavid (8300 9.5+)
    Additionally the Jagr price and pop count are also results of grading not being as popular in the early 90's but the over printing being insane (at least for other sports)

    • @hockeycardsgongshow
      @hockeycardsgongshow  Před měsícem +1

      good point. Jagr's BGS 9.5 pop count for 1990 OPC Premier is 995. You'd think Bedard's total between PSA and BGS will surpass Jagr's total in a couple of weeks. McDavid to your point is 10k+ combined.

  • @jasonwood8493
    @jasonwood8493 Před měsícem

    Even if Bedard is top 20 player of all time, his prices will go down. Maybe his YG is worth $200 in a PSA 10. It's too high of a pop count. Prices don't drop fast unless he's bad, so there's still some demand even though supply is outpacing it.

  • @cbellz994ever
    @cbellz994ever Před měsícem +2

    Make Phil a regular! The 3 person format works great. Great episode boys! Agree - PSA is totally gross.

  • @swneighbours
    @swneighbours Před měsícem

    Great segment on how to rip off Loud Phil in a trade... :)