The Insane History of Carnage

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
  • Spider-Man has put his life at risk facing off against a ton of villains throughout his history, such as Venom-- an alien symbiote that bonded itself to Eddie Brock-- as well as other highly dangerous and deadly villains like the Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus. However, Spider-Man hasn't faced anyone as deadly as Carnage, Venom's symbiote offspring which bonded to serial killer Cletus Kasady. Seemingly invincible, Carnage has almost killed Spider-Man on numerous occasions, with his body count in the hundreds of thousands. Carnage has unleashed an eldritch god, almost killed Spider-Man and Venom numerous times, received his own live-action movie, Venom: Let There Be Carnage, appeared in a Fortnite Battle Pass, and even achieved literal godhood. Today, in this long-form documentary-style video essay, we're doing a deep dive into the entire history of Carnage, Spider-Man's most insane villain.
    🕸️🕸️ SOCIAL MEDIA 🕸️🕸️
    Twitter - / lumisweb
    Email [business enquiries only] - lumiswebofbusiness@gmail.com
    🕸️🕸️ MUSIC 🕸️🕸️
    At The Market / Eight Bits [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Kepler / By Lotus [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Last Odyssey / ELFL [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Titane / ELFL [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Djupet / Owen Meyers [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Nex Latreides / Joseph Beg [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Astral Roar / Lama House [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Aureole of Hope / Rand Aldo [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Orthosie / Ben Elson [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    I Think I Was There / Emil Axelsson [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Last Night Out / Colors of Illusion [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    No Balance / V.V. Campos [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Hope Won't Fail Me / Blackout Memories [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Routine / Anthony Earls [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Harmonics / Hampus Naeselius [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Earth / Ben Elson [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Alert / DEX 1200 [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Portal Latrop / DEX 1200 [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Crossing Borders / Mindserver Unlimited [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Loss and Love / Amaranth Cove [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Rushing My Way Through The Hour / Christian Andersen [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Eupheme / Ben Elson [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Raccoon / By Lotus [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Primordial / Joseph Beg [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Final Run / Lupus Nocte [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    Red Driver / Ben Elson [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
    🕸️🕸️REFERENCES🕸️🕸️
    Amazing Spider-Man (1963) issues 344-363
    Spider-Man Unlimited (1993) issues 1-2
    Web of Spider-Man (1985) issues 101-103
    Amazing Spider-Man (1963) issues 378-380
    Spider-Man (1990) issues 35-37
    The Spectacular Spider-Man (1976) issues 201-2013
    Amazing Spider-Man (1963) Annual 28
    Web of Spider-Man (1985) issue 117
    Amazing Spider-Man (1963) issue 394
    The Spectacular Spider-Man (1976) issue 217
    Spider-Man: Maximum Carnage Game (1994)
    Venom: Carnage Unleashed (1995) issues 1-4
    Spectacular Spider-Man Super Special (1995)
    Web of Spider-Man Super Special (1995)
    Amazing Spider-Man (1963) issues 403, 410
    Spider-Man (1990) issue 67
    The Spectacular Spider-Man (1988) issue 223
    Carnage: It's A Wonderful Life (1996)
    Spider-Man: The Animated Series (1994) Season 3 Episodes 10 and 11
    Peter Parker: Spider-Man (1999) issues 10 and 13
    Webspinners: Tales of Spider-Man (1999) issue 14
    Spider-Man Unlimited (1999-2001) episodes 1-13
    Neversoft's Spider-Man 2000
    Spider-Man: Activision (2000)
    Venom VS. Carnage (2004) issues 1-4
    Ultimate Spider-Man (2004) issues 61-128
    New Avengers (2005) issue 2
    Spectacular Spider-Man (2009) Season 2, Episode 3
    Pinball FX 2 - Venom (2010)
    Carnage (2010) issues 1-5
    Carnage U.S.A. (2012) issues 1-5
    Minimum Carnage: Alpha (2012)
    Scarlet Spider (2012) issues 10-11
    Venom (2011) issues 26-27
    Minimum Carnage: Omega (2013)
    Superior Carnage (2013) issues 1-5
    Lego Marvel Superheroes (2014)
    Deadpool VS. Carnage (2014) issues 1-4
    Avengers and X-Men: AXIS (2014) issues 2-8
    Magneto (2014) issues 11-12
    AXIS: Carnage (2014) issues 1-3
    Nova (2013) issues 25-27
    The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Game (2014)
    Carnage (2015) issues 1-16
    Venomized (2018) issues 1-5
    Venom (2018) issues 8 and 16
    Web of Venom: Carnage Born (2018)
    Web of Venom: Cult of Carnage (2019)
    Absolute Carnage (2019) issues 1-5
    Venom: Let There Be Carnage (2021, Movie Trailer)
    Fortnite Chapter 2 Season 8 (2021)
    PHOTO OF Erik Larsen and Mark Bagley at 0:01:03 © Luigi Novi / Wikimedia Commons and © Svedishsven / Wikimedia Commons respectively
    🕸️🕸️CHAPTERS 🕸️🕸️
    0:00:00 Introduction
    0:00:52 Origins [1991-1992]
    0:07:29 Maximum Carnage [1993]
    0:20:49 Digital Carnage [1994-1995]
    0:24:31 Animated Carnage [1996-1999]
    0:29:03 Legless Carnage [2000-2011]
    0:34:36 Hero Carnage [2011-2016]
    0:46:08 God Carnage [2016-2019]
    0:57:04 GRAHHHH [2021]
    0:58:02 Conclusion
    🕸️🕸️DISCLAIMER🕸️🕸️
    All credit goes to the musicians, composers, artists, and writers! This video is purely for entertainment and informational purposes.
  • Zábava

Komentáře • 909

  • @McMastersofficial
    @McMastersofficial Před rokem +3555

    Between you and Alex Lennen, British guys explaining spiderman has become my new favorite genre of CZcams

  • @alexandergonyea4642
    @alexandergonyea4642 Před rokem +69

    "Carnage, his wife, and his dog are fighting the Demogoblin," was a non sequitur that made me laugh really hard and is now and forever a line that lives rent free in my head.

  • @freddi00
    @freddi00 Před rokem +1626

    For anyone curious about what happaned to Carnage since:
    1. He went around and killed a ton of civillians who hate symbiotes in Extreme Carnage, but was stopped by a team up between Flash Thompson and several other symbiotes
    And 2. He is currently going around from realm to realm and killing people in his own ongoing to restore his godlike powers

    • @Popcultureguy3000
      @Popcultureguy3000 Před rokem +123

      Actually, it was Cletus Cassidy *_himself_* that did the slaughter of all the literal xenophobe’s in the Extreme Carnage summer crossover event, as his conscienceness was still saved into the Symbiote Codex following the events of The King in Black.
      The Carnage that is trying to re-attain Godhood is the actual Carnage Symbiote, who personality-wise, is mostly just a copy of his usual host. Really this new Carnage series that stars the title Symbiote is demonstrating that the alien has a much more creative and inventive mind than the C- student Cletus.

    • @freddi00
      @freddi00 Před rokem +13

      @@Popcultureguy3000 Should have mentioned that the character in EC was Cleetus. Thanks for noticing my oversight!

    • @matthewschwartz6607
      @matthewschwartz6607 Před rokem

      How did he come back from being cut in half?

    • @8Woody7
      @8Woody7 Před rokem +1

      Didn't Carnage get dead during the King in Black run?

    • @freddi00
      @freddi00 Před rokem

      @@8Woody7 No. Carnage did not die during that run

  • @afflicks
    @afflicks Před rokem +2214

    I am so surprised that the Carnage hacking into the laptop in Let There Be Carnage actually happened. That is absolutely insane

    • @markmagician2471
      @markmagician2471 Před rokem +130

      I mean he did kill someone through the phoneline.

    • @OdaKa
      @OdaKa Před rokem +69

      "actually happened" hehe, comic book reality

    • @Dr._Mantis_Toboggan_Md.
      @Dr._Mantis_Toboggan_Md. Před rokem +58

      I honestly didn't know how to react. On one hand it waa hilariously dumb and funny, but then again it seemed just too stupid.

    • @mikaela5938
      @mikaela5938 Před rokem +23

      comic book rules are the best bc of random funny silly stuff like this

    • @simonmann4922
      @simonmann4922 Před rokem +10

      That’s the 90s for you, weird, but enjoyable as hell

  • @arezwanna5348
    @arezwanna5348 Před rokem +77

    “ carnage has a gun” has to be my favourite line

  • @jackwaechter2449
    @jackwaechter2449 Před rokem +775

    If I had a dollar for every time someone decided to deal with Carnage “once and for all” I would be rich

    • @FookMi69
      @FookMi69 Před rokem +100

      Carnage is quite literally a slasher villain; he’s a deranged serial killer, has killed many people creatively, and he just keeps coming back after he’s assumed to have perished once and for all.

    • @redjirachi1
      @redjirachi1 Před rokem +36

      If I had a dollar for every time they didn't keep the villain dead because people like the character, I could out-buy the Disney Company

    • @FookMi69
      @FookMi69 Před rokem +17

      @@redjirachi1 To be fair, at least the MCU aren’t afraid to permanently kill off their characters, but that’s an entirely different continuity from the comics, despite how much they want their audiences to believe that their movies take place in Earth-616.

    • @KeDe1606
      @KeDe1606 Před 7 měsíci +2

      ⁠​⁠@@FookMi69well, what with all the rumors about Marvel wanting to revive both Iron Man and Black Widow for the MCU, this comment has aged… a bit less gracefully than I would’ve liked

    • @FookMi69
      @FookMi69 Před 7 měsíci

      @@KeDe1606 Oh yeah.. Those are awful choices too. Bringing back Tony would just make Endgame’s ending feel much less impactful

  • @Poopscipade
    @Poopscipade Před rokem +389

    My favorite part is Spiderman agonizing over whether or not just killing Carnage would be the right thing to do for pretty much the entire first arc, and then Kasady's THERAPIST making the decision to light her patient on fire like...right away. Where's her comic at?

    • @lockerbuddy2039
      @lockerbuddy2039 Před rokem +119

      I swear, I always hate how much heroes stick to that 'no killing' shit. They'll let the most irredeemably evil villains live, the villain kills a toooon of innocents and the heroes immediately are like "Bro... I didn't know this mass murdering supervillain would murder more people..."
      Props to the therapist, she's probably the best hero of the entire Marvel database.

    • @zzodysseuszz
      @zzodysseuszz Před rokem +19

      @@lockerbuddy2039yeah that’s why I like anime. They have that rule but they’re not so comically unrealistic about it.

    • @centricthemedic1517
      @centricthemedic1517 Před rokem +17

      @@lockerbuddy2039 None of Marvel's superheroes have a no-kill rule. They will kill if forced to. For DC though it's a slightly different story, with Superman, Batman, the Flash, and Black Canary holding strict no-kill rules.

    • @user-vs5gb7pt3h
      @user-vs5gb7pt3h Před rokem +41

      @@centricthemedic1517 Spider-man has really strict no-kill rule. He saved Norman several times. When J.J.J tried to shoot him, Spidey caught the bullet, and Norman had killed Flash. When Sin eater tried to kill Norman, Peter teamed up with Goblin. Spidey always tries to stop Wolverine from killing people and Logan actually stops.
      Daredevil also has strict moral code, he is catholic

    • @xinderx
      @xinderx Před rokem +18

      @@user-vs5gb7pt3h spidey only kills when the person is irredeemable. Every time he saves a villian not long after they turn good. It's like his spidey sense helps him know if someone can be redeemed.

  • @Helm-0
    @Helm-0 Před rokem +689

    I feel like the Carnage saga is yet another instance of not knowing when to stop with a character. It just goes on and on to the point where even a really cool character like Carnage can become dull.

    • @Mothwater
      @Mothwater Před rokem +136

      It’s kinda a Batman who Laughs situation

    • @--CHARLIE--
      @--CHARLIE-- Před rokem +98

      Thaaaats comics for ya~

    • @holyX
      @holyX Před rokem +63

      That is because Marvel is a low form of storytelling. It's WWE but in comic panels. It's all just simple entertainment for 12 year olds.

    • @Liide12
      @Liide12 Před rokem +50

      I imagine it's also a symptom of the passage of time marooning a character from his initial context. The further away we get from that Silence of the Lambs zeitgeist without evolving or reinterpreting Carnage, the duller his edge becomes.
      At a certain point "guy who kills people because he's CrAzY!?1" gets old.

    • @sneed915
      @sneed915 Před rokem +26

      It doesnt help that carnage is stuck in a non adult series hes a serial killer and a sadist. Any adaption is better then the watered down version from venom let there be carnage

  • @killedurkids9318
    @killedurkids9318 Před rokem +1062

    Carnage wanted a statue and free bird playing 24/7…..officially the coolest villain ever

    • @TheLivelovelaugh165
      @TheLivelovelaugh165 Před rokem +124

      He also wanted the statue to have a cape, he stressed that detail

    • @WhiteKnuckleRide512
      @WhiteKnuckleRide512 Před rokem +67

      @@TheLivelovelaugh165 also a confederate flag

    • @darrell4816
      @darrell4816 Před rokem

      Chad shit

    • @ghristophermyers666
      @ghristophermyers666 Před rokem +10

      @@WhiteKnuckleRide512 wait what 💀

    • @nb2044
      @nb2044 Před rokem +60

      @@ghristophermyers666 Yeah, Carnage is a republican in the comics. He himself wanted that statue specifically in the middle of "liberal, bleeding heart New York".

  • @turtato2155
    @turtato2155 Před rokem +268

    Venom in the beginning really reminds of the way he acted in the PS1 Spiderman game. His design was terrifying but he was also goofy.

  • @Galimeer5
    @Galimeer5 Před rokem +370

    You left out the most outrageous part of Deadpool vs Carnage:
    Carnage's existential breakdown happens because Deadpool keeps finding him, no matter where he goes or who he decides to kill. Deadpool explains it's because they're both the same kind of crazy and Carnage just can't accept the idea that someone else is on his same mental wavelength.
    Also, Deadpool bonds with four or five other symbiotes in the finale

    • @HellishSpoon
      @HellishSpoon Před 10 měsíci +27

      i actually really enjoyed that, its just two crazy people duking it out crazy style

    • @sonicsucks20
      @sonicsucks20 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Deadpool is a gary stu creators pet for writers edgelord fantasy, so I don't really care if he does get the better of Carnage.

    • @alucardsantradideus267
      @alucardsantradideus267 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Isn't that also when Deadpool gives the symbiotes to a dog?

    • @marcellbartik339
      @marcellbartik339 Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@@alucardsantradideus267It is

  • @hashi258
    @hashi258 Před rokem +61

    The thought of Carnage . . . well, spreading carnage while singing Free Bird is one of the funniest things ever

  • @ripleyandweeds1288
    @ripleyandweeds1288 Před rokem +62

    Marvel was not lying when they called that one arc "Maximum Carnage" because goddamn is it borderline chaos.
    Also I love that Carnage was almost killed by _love_ , like he's a cartoon villain even by cartoon standards.

  • @mog-myownbestfriend
    @mog-myownbestfriend Před rokem +203

    Contextualized as a timeline, I'm surprised Carnage was actually used as sparingly as he was. I thought he was this Uber powerful, nightmare villain from the nineties who got toned down over the years and became more of a different character's reoccurring villain, but I am pleased as punch to find out that even into the modern day, when Carnage makes an appearance, the wider Marvel Universe tends to take notice

    • @Marc-rw3dd
      @Marc-rw3dd Před 8 měsíci +6

      God damn captain america shows up twice when this dude escapes, this dude is a threat

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Před rokem +166

    The fact that one of Marvel's edgiest antagonists (which is, y'know, saying a lot) solely cares for a stuffed bear named "binky" is kind of hilarious.

  • @adarkerstandard
    @adarkerstandard Před rokem +623

    Carnage’s design has declined so hard since the 90’s. He has essentially looked like a slippery wet fish alien for the last 20+ years

    • @Potential94
      @Potential94 Před rokem +68

      He’s looked like shit design wise for the last 20 plus years. In absolute Carnage he looked amazing tho

    • @H3L1X4X1S
      @H3L1X4X1S Před rokem +29

      in my opinion, the red should look like guts, since he is so blood thirsty.

    • @Mekasoundwave
      @Mekasoundwave Před rokem +54

      The lack of black really kills it.

    • @sentientmustache8360
      @sentientmustache8360 Před rokem +6

      Yeah, all except his demonic looking form in absolute carnage

    • @kazmiirtiza3934
      @kazmiirtiza3934 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Idk, Dark and Devil Carnage were actually great designs. With the exposed spine highlighting how dead Cletus is.
      Also, in regards to your metaphor for his design, I guess thats why he bonded with a fish

  • @MJSHappy
    @MJSHappy Před rokem +139

    A few things that you missed in the video:
    There's a 3 issue series called "Carnage: Black, White, and Blood" where a bunch of artists do their own short carnage stories. There's one where carnage makes a guy go insane and kill himself from the threat of Cletus Cassidy, there's one where a bullied young boy is talked to by Carnage, slowly convincing him to kill. And there's one where Carnage is a pirate.
    Also, carnage is a boss/level in Spiderman Shattered dimensions.

    • @ZigealFaust
      @ZigealFaust Před rokem +12

      Aslo they didnt mention ANY of the Absolute Carnage Immortal Hulk run.

  • @no.1spidey-fan182
    @no.1spidey-fan182 Před rokem +36

    Peter saying "What's with the WE" when being FORCED to work with Venom and Black Cat is hilarious😂

  • @syrathdouglas1244
    @syrathdouglas1244 Před rokem +175

    I love how venom went from “I’m going to cause havoc and kill people!” to “Only people like pedos and animal abusers deserve death, but I’ll scare every robber half to death.”

    • @EntertainMeTV
      @EntertainMeTV Před 8 měsíci

      Bet’ah 😂 Bri’ish

    • @John-X
      @John-X Před 8 měsíci +10

      I hate that they made him an anti-hero. Venom should be a hulk-like bad guy that eats people or drains people with this tendrils in a gory way. Honestly i don't like the whole symbiote mythology, i think they took things way too far. made it all goofy.

    • @yancgc5098
      @yancgc5098 Před 8 měsíci +20

      ⁠​⁠@@John-X The Venom you want is the one from Ultimate Spider-Man

    • @John-X
      @John-X Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@yancgc5098 i don't like the ultimates universe tho.

    • @kingmitchum
      @kingmitchum Před 8 měsíci +15

      ​@John-X I'm pretty sure Venom was like that for a long time, be was only ever a mindless carnivore in the Ultimate universe.

  • @knines6279
    @knines6279 Před rokem +20

    You know he’s bad when he’s the villain’s villain.

  • @demonicdynamite
    @demonicdynamite Před rokem +21

    "Nevermind, he's alive" - this video in a nutshell

  • @blueberryboi3294
    @blueberryboi3294 Před rokem +23

    Bruh carnage made the most calmest "yeah" while being double teamed at 6:41

  • @hyperion3145
    @hyperion3145 Před 10 měsíci +18

    Best thing is that the writers had a habit of reusing Carnage without addressing his previous appearance leading to a lot of instances where he's supposed to be dead as a doornail but still somehow shows up to work without explanation.
    At one point, Silver Surfer imprisons him in a material that he explicitly says nothing can get out of and Carnage spontaneously continues to appear without referencing it.
    I don't think any other character does that quite like he does but it is unintentionally funny.

    • @Hillthugsta
      @Hillthugsta Před 8 měsíci

      Its pretty obvious most writers hate the character and tries to kill him off in a way he couldnt come back from. The Silver Surfer and Sentry encounters leads me to believe this

  • @SomeAustrianGuy_
    @SomeAustrianGuy_ Před rokem +22

    Man, this whole rollercoaster just made me remember how much of a fever dream the 90's really where
    *Never change 90's... Never change...*

  • @nicecocofy2614
    @nicecocofy2614 Před rokem +275

    I think dark carnage is more weakened to the third rail is because he is bonded with a symbiote dragon and these more ancient version of the species are more connected to Knull who as a god of darkness his weakness is light.
    Modern symbiote that's stray from Knull's darkness like toxin has shown more resistance to fire and venom can absorb and shoot electricity like a lightning bender.

    • @no.1spidey-fan182
      @no.1spidey-fan182 Před rokem +24

      I always saw it as since the symbiotes spawned from Venom who took Spidey's abilities which included durability and Regen. Each one is more durable and has better regenerative ability

    • @nicecocofy2614
      @nicecocofy2614 Před rokem +19

      @@no.1spidey-fan182 I agree but spiderman isn't the sole reason. The symbiote are already tough on their own venom is somewhat of a champion, before it met Parker it bonded with multiple probably stronger hosts, inherited some power from its forefathers and if it's still canon venom is generation 998 making it super strong from birth. Also klytar become stronger the older they live and venom is old.

    • @nb2044
      @nb2044 Před rokem +5

      Dark Carnage being part dragon makes him weak against lightning damage. Spidey and Venom should've used Gold Pine Resin

    • @plugshirt1762
      @plugshirt1762 Před rokem +1

      @@nb2044they must of sprinkled some on their rail track weapon

    • @_Tzer
      @_Tzer Před rokem +1

      @@nb2044 Or infuse his symbiote with a lightning gem.

  • @parkedcar2004
    @parkedcar2004 Před rokem +40

    It’s obvious how the writers of spider man unlimited didn’t know carnage existed considering they thought he was venom’s brother and made him team up with venom

  • @rainy4902
    @rainy4902 Před rokem +28

    You know, there’s a reason symbiote are my favorite villian types, there is actually no sugarcoating with these things. The lack of subtlety and flexibility both literally and narratively, most symbiote and symbiote storylines break down into what if venom but _____. Just finding the most wacky scenarios for symbiotes, fusing them with every character ever, it’s so damn fun. Carnage is just venom but more evil, so it’s way way more fun

    • @jonnythonmccrapballs3112
      @jonnythonmccrapballs3112 Před rokem +7

      There's a comic I have around my house somewhere called something like "into the venomverse" where its a bunch of alternate stories on things like "what if deadpool/wolverine/gwenpool/ghost rider had the venom suit. Its quite cool and I think you would enjoy it

  • @zer0theassassin60
    @zer0theassassin60 Před rokem +27

    Carnage has always been my favourite Spider-Man villain, and I think this video did him a great justice. Thanks!

  • @lgut6010
    @lgut6010 Před rokem +156

    When I read the Maximum Carnage line, I was really happy Morbius appeared in the comic as a team member. Always liked when morbius interacts with other spider-man characters

  • @ergietalks
    @ergietalks Před rokem +55

    The power of the Third Rail is unquantifiable. It surpasses that of The Living Tribunal and rivals that of The One Above All. The very mention of the Third Rail sends shivers down the spines of eldritch gods, who can only cower helplessly if they ever have the misfortune of crossing paths with the unholy rail. The Third Rail is eternal. The Third Rail is.

  • @ImmortalDreamEntertainment

    The fact that you never mentioned that Carnage was one of the main antagonists of the first ever crossover between Spider-Man and Batman should be considered heresy. He legit disgusts the Joker and the comic opens with Batman having a nightmare about Carnage killing his parents.
    Carnage is dangerous enough to give BATMAN nightmares and make the JOKER disgusted. Let that sink in.

  • @DeusPanis
    @DeusPanis Před rokem +9

    I just love venom in maximum carnage, he's literally the definition of your brain when you grab a knife telling you to kill everyone

  • @user-tm9qh7ip5i
    @user-tm9qh7ip5i Před rokem +3

    "carnage finds a random baby, and throws him out the window" why did I laugh so much-

  • @josearmortegah8093
    @josearmortegah8093 Před 6 měsíci +2

    57:47 Watching Carnage doing Fortnite dances super fast while you talk about the painful reality that one cannot get the skin anymore is the funniest thing I’ve seen today. It feels like the red abomination is mocking you through the screen that you can’t have the skin.

  • @doni1113
    @doni1113 Před rokem +3

    19:09 "he dies.... no he doesn't" I CANTTTT-

  • @kevinnotkyle
    @kevinnotkyle Před rokem +8

    He's been through a lot we got...
    *LEGO CARNAGE*

  • @matthewschwartz6607
    @matthewschwartz6607 Před rokem +164

    The FIRST Carnage story was probably his best! I used to really love Carnage, but I think that writers have lost their way with Cassidy. They just do the same old, same old with him. Thanks for doing this , though. It brought back some old (And fond.) memories .

    • @no.1spidey-fan182
      @no.1spidey-fan182 Před rokem +13

      Facts Absolute Carnage was just a mixture of Maximum Carnage, Carnage 2016 where he gets demon powers and Carnage USA when he takes over a town. Thats what happens when you MILK a character...you eventually run out of story to write

    • @Dr._Mantis_Toboggan_Md.
      @Dr._Mantis_Toboggan_Md. Před rokem +11

      @@no.1spidey-fan182 yeah, except it was much better written, had bigger, yet more personal stakes, evolved the characters and was just a joy to read. I don't understand your "criticism".

    • @Wiki1184
      @Wiki1184 Před rokem +14

      To be fair, he isn’t exactly a deep character with complex motives. There isn’t much else you can do with a character that just wants to kill and nothing else.
      A Carnage story lives and dies by how good the other characters are written similar to what Drmantistobboganmd said.

    • @no.1spidey-fan182
      @no.1spidey-fan182 Před rokem +7

      @@Dr._Mantis_Toboggan_Md. My main point is that that doesn't change the fact that it was repetitive and STALE. Also the heroes had to be DUMBED down for Carnage to succeed😂 and Scorn character ASSASINATION.
      This man Carnage has taken over a city like 4 times at this point...and they have ZERO countermeasures...yh...sure💀. Not even SPIDERMAN? Or the GOVERNMENT? Carnage is a HULK LEVEL THREAT but he juat gets a PASS!!!!??? Yh aight. Also The fact that spiderman was treated as a NOTHING character in a story that wouldn't exist without him
      It had nice spectacle but underneath that the heroes were potrayed horribly, random thrown in plot points with symbiotes, like the codex. Same thing with King In Black...but to a much WORSE extent.
      And seriously...wings? are a big achievment for symbiotes, WINGS!?...literally any symbiote host with a BRAIN should be able to make wings since one of their MAIN abilities is SHAPE...SHIFTING...😭🤦‍♂️
      Dont get me wrong I enjoyed the events Absolute Carnage more so but the art CARRIED both of these events🤷‍♂️

    • @no.1spidey-fan182
      @no.1spidey-fan182 Před rokem +1

      @@Wiki1184 so why not just STOP using his character. It got so BLAND they now have Carnage dimension hopping and stealing powers on a trip through ASGARD😭🤦‍♂️. Thats not unique...thats just SAD at this point

  • @no.1spidey-fan182
    @no.1spidey-fan182 Před rokem +26

    The art in Maxminum Carnage is AMAZING. It aged so well💯

  • @josephlee4249
    @josephlee4249 Před rokem +6

    Something about Carnage having a gun is amazing and it cracks me up

  • @dudewithachannel1163
    @dudewithachannel1163 Před rokem +19

    I feel like we need a green goblin history video next
    For being spider-mans worst enemy, that guy has a pretty scrambled timeline and I think a video to help keep track of it all would be neat

  • @oujimandias6485
    @oujimandias6485 Před rokem +40

    17:22 I like this part where Cap America randomly showed up and said "It's Cappin' Time" and proceeded to cap all over the trails of Carnage
    27:16 IT'S CARNAGE TIME!

    • @and8091
      @and8091 Před rokem +3

      monkey see monkey do

  • @suiginmigasuto3356
    @suiginmigasuto3356 Před rokem +7

    6:11
    All I can think of is Venom at the computer:
    “Surf the web! Surf the web!” 😆

  • @MichaelJones-rz5sw
    @MichaelJones-rz5sw Před rokem +11

    The symbiote in the Venom movies was a lot more accurate to the comics than most will admit.

  • @tomasrodriguez6006
    @tomasrodriguez6006 Před rokem +85

    Wow, that was an amazing video! Looking forward to watch more of your content!

    • @lumisweb
      @lumisweb  Před rokem +12

      thanks so much!

    • @yanislul6436
      @yanislul6436 Před rokem +4

      @@lumisweb after watching this one and the spider punk one, I just want to see more videos like this

    • @yanislul6436
      @yanislul6436 Před rokem +4

      really great content

    • @lumisweb
      @lumisweb  Před rokem +4

      @@yanislul6436 plenty more coming! i've got an endless list of topics

  • @versebuchanan512
    @versebuchanan512 Před rokem +5

    That Maximum Carnage game was a ballbuster. That and Comix Zone had me stuck for weeks as a kid.

  • @blacksun3185
    @blacksun3185 Před rokem +6

    I know comic histories tend to get wild but it's just so hilarious hearing the shit Carnage has gone trough. He was in prison, then not, he was big, tiny, legless, got his legs back, he's been killed - well actually not. Guy can't catch a break but I think he might actually like it this way.

  • @mccoolfriend6818
    @mccoolfriend6818 Před rokem +7

    Love it when A Superhero and a Supervillain Team up
    Like Batman and the Joker
    Always sends chills and a huge grin on my face

  • @Notnotnotnotnotnotnotnot
    @Notnotnotnotnotnotnotnot Před rokem +41

    The idea of carnage’s memorial playing freebird on blast 24/7 is hilarious and amazing. I think car accidents would rise nearby though.

  • @sparking023
    @sparking023 Před rokem +8

    The iconic status of Carnage makes the character suffer from success. He's an awesome villain and always poses a serious threat but you gotta do away with the villain, and that means he'll keep making comebacks, no matter how unreasonable. But that's superhero comics for you, nothing new under the sun. Still, I would love to see more of good boy Carnage, I imagine it would be much like Deadpool in Spider-Man and Deadpool, where Wade struggles but legit wants to be a good guy and do the hero stuff like the big names. Shit, imagine the banter of the Venom and Carnage symbiote bickering while Eddie tries to teach Cletus how not to be a complete psycho. Missed oportunities

  • @Sparkle0501
    @Sparkle0501 Před rokem +11

    You just got Heisenberg's Respect

  • @1.0xY.m0r0n
    @1.0xY.m0r0n Před 7 měsíci +5

    Carnage is BY FAR my favorite villain in Spiderman! Venom is cool, Green Goblin is also cool, but Carnage is just pure chaos. So good and I'm glad they teased him in the most recent game.

  • @gottfriedosterbach3907
    @gottfriedosterbach3907 Před rokem +45

    Ok, so I just have to assume Human Torch really wanted to go to the beach because he bailed on the part where he could have been most useful.

  • @mrfacestab5758
    @mrfacestab5758 Před rokem +7

    Carnage is the Joker version of Spider-Man

  • @simonrobson6353
    @simonrobson6353 Před rokem +45

    Seeing how similar let there be carnage is to maximum carnage I’m sad we never got Venom teaming up with Morbius like in that story.

  • @cilantro5221
    @cilantro5221 Před rokem +16

    Carnage is definitely my favorite comic villain of all time, I love his just unbridled insanity and chaos, Cletus Kasady is a very interesting character and carnage just amplifies him. I want them to do more with him though, mostly exploring Kasady.

  • @MyStolenUser
    @MyStolenUser Před rokem +11

    Criminally underrated channel! Definitely subbed. Laughed out loud on the delivery of "Carnage finds a baby.... and throws it out a window."

  • @AidenAlias
    @AidenAlias Před rokem +3

    Genuinely great video, a proper rundown of a character that's not either 15 minutes of stating the obvious or overly focused on one version/run.

  • @gogetathestrongestfusion

    Sean Voicing carnage was a damm surprise to think he could go from Goku to Carnage is wild

  • @EliTheGleason
    @EliTheGleason Před rokem +5

    Love when a channel just pops up, drops an hour long banger, then does it again

  • @immortalfrieza
    @immortalfrieza Před rokem +9

    I wouldn't say Carnage is the most dangerous villain. The one with the biggest body count maybe, but in terms of who is more dangerous Doctor Octopus attempted to kill off the entire planet Earth at least once.
    That and considering that Norman Osborn happened to get in control of the U.S. armed forces and invade Asgard I'm guessing he has Carnage beat there too.

    • @ceral1871
      @ceral1871 Před rokem +3

      Carnage became a dark god that summoned knull and brought the end of the 616 universe 💀💀💀

    • @katkit4281
      @katkit4281 Před rokem +3

      Carnage is a universal threat now.

  • @individualywrappedcheeseslices

    This is so well done. Kudos. Do more hero/villain analysis stuff, this was good watch

  • @freddi00
    @freddi00 Před rokem +13

    Incredible video! Its clear that a lot of effort has been put into this. Definetly subscribing! Keep up the great work!

  • @rukus7661
    @rukus7661 Před rokem +3

    Surprised you only have 2 vids please make more like this!

  • @there4you19
    @there4you19 Před rokem +14

    Carnage is the most Deadliest, Goriest, Bloodiest Villain Spider man and Venom has ever Faced.

  • @Zeropointill
    @Zeropointill Před rokem +77

    The name Chthon isn't Marvel's equivalent to Cthulu, he's an elder god IN the Cthulu Universe. He's not like Cthulu, he's literally a separate being in the mythos. It being public domain, it's perfectly legal to just use him. Hell, he pops up as a boss in Quake, also pretty much set in that same universe.

  • @taiscommentingaccountusedf1908

    I can't bloody believe they let carnage live so many times, only for him to whoop them over and over again

  • @remyrichardson8614
    @remyrichardson8614 Před rokem +1

    44:26 the “But officer, you gotta understand, Free Bird is playing” meme applies to Carnage so fucking much

  • @pedroguscos73
    @pedroguscos73 Před rokem +4

    I am actually surprised that this level of production and humor don't have like 120k subs...

  • @ObaREX
    @ObaREX Před rokem +5

    Damn I sat through this entire thing. Carnage is THAT interesting of a character.

  • @TimeKeeperBris
    @TimeKeeperBris Před rokem +2

    You knew what you was doing with the sleep music in the background😂 but for real, glad I found this channel! Love the chill style

  • @LILCURTTT
    @LILCURTTT Před rokem +2

    Love the video man, commentary was top notch lmao

  • @moopersworthninjason42nd81

    My maximum carnage paperback deteriorated in highschool and my little niece has always asked me "whats the deal with red Venom?". I can't wait to visit her and see her reaction to 20:09

  • @CheeseCurd_0-0
    @CheeseCurd_0-0 Před rokem +5

    Cletus Kassidy is a menace in the spider-Man the animated series he was terrifying I was traumatized😅

  • @DCBiscuit
    @DCBiscuit Před rokem +2

    This video is great! Keep ‘em coming. Maybe with Venom or the other symbiotes as a follow-up video?

  • @Anothe_random_guy
    @Anothe_random_guy Před rokem +2

    'He's a silly guy' I don't know why it's just funny

  • @Biobolical
    @Biobolical Před rokem +8

    BRO this video is so high quality I was super surprised to see you don't have more subs. excited to see you're channel grow like crazy. extremely underrated bro

    • @lumisweb
      @lumisweb  Před rokem +1

      thank you!

    • @Biobolical
      @Biobolical Před rokem +1

      @@lumisweb TOLD YOU BRO, look at that you're already almost at 2k subs dude, congrats!

    • @lumisweb
      @lumisweb  Před rokem

      @@Biobolical 🥳🎉

  • @user-ls3gv8mj3g
    @user-ls3gv8mj3g Před rokem +17

    Summary of carnage’s story “so then I died, but I lived”

  • @oisentao8790
    @oisentao8790 Před rokem +2

    This is such a great video! I'm really glad I found you! Keep The great work. Your channel will be amazing

  • @purelycryptic
    @purelycryptic Před rokem +1

    Great work!

  • @SandwitchZebra
    @SandwitchZebra Před rokem +9

    I actually own the Fortnite Carnage skin! It’s very detailed, an odd mesh of mainly his Let There Be Carnage design but also aspects of the comics, like his surrounding cosmetics (he has a glider called the Dark Symbiote and there’s lots of his quotes in descriptions) and the holes in his legs, because, well, he didn’t have his legs. It’s meant to be 616 Carnage for sure though, lots of the Fortnite Marvel characters are meant to be the main 616 versions

  • @JessieWheeler5Ds
    @JessieWheeler5Ds Před rokem +5

    Just under 2,000 subscribers from two videos? That's very impressive. I haven't read much Marvel, let alone Spider-Man, so this was a really interesting and cool video to watch. Must've taken forever to edit all this. Thank you for your hard work in making these videos.

    • @lumisweb
      @lumisweb  Před rokem +1

      thank you so much, I really appreciate it!

  • @Revilokio
    @Revilokio Před rokem +1

    Very informative, much appreciated

  • @TheEasyRedRider
    @TheEasyRedRider Před rokem +1

    i fucking can't with the idea of carnage shooting bank robbers to death with free bird playing in the background

  • @HeyoOkDG
    @HeyoOkDG Před rokem +21

    Absolutely insane how you only have 2 videos up and they are both this good. The editing made it seem as if you have been at this for a long while!! Good job! It was really entertaining seeing how carnage evolved through the years as someone who is not all too familiar with the comics of the web slinger (I mostly sticked to spectacular spider man and Tobey’s movies). I can't wait to see what topics you tackle next! keep it up!

    • @lumisweb
      @lumisweb  Před rokem +3

      thank you so much!! more on the way :] ✨️

  • @Batmanstabbingadog
    @Batmanstabbingadog Před rokem +3

    Venom: I am the most dangerous Spider-Man villain
    Red goblin: try me bitc…

  • @dante_02
    @dante_02 Před rokem +1

    One of the best comic videos I've seen
    Great job

  • @RigbyIsTheMan
    @RigbyIsTheMan Před rokem +1

    One of my favorite videos rn, hope to see more soon

  • @traystay6937
    @traystay6937 Před rokem +4

    Great vid bud

  • @mcchrys8364
    @mcchrys8364 Před 2 měsíci

    I’m not sure where you went, but I really love your videos. I hope to see more soon!

  • @raywhite9069
    @raywhite9069 Před rokem

    Hey, thanks for this. Not something I would have thought to look for, but I really enjoyed this video.

  • @watersomic
    @watersomic Před rokem +3

    liked for being a good video, subscribed for the battle network reference

  • @andrewobrien8325
    @andrewobrien8325 Před rokem +4

    7:06 Dumb question? And it's a question I ask all the time because New York but WHY DOESN'T SPIDEY ASK THE HUMAN TOURCH TO HELP?! I thought fire was Carnage's weakness!? And the Human Tourch lives in New York right? WHY ISN'T HE HELPING?! I was watching the 6 forgotten warriors episodes last night and a plot hole I couldn't shake from my brain was "WHY AREN'T THE OTHER HEROES HELPING AT THE UN?! WE'VE MET SO MANY IN THE COURSE OF THIS SERIES! Shouldn't the Punisher at the very least be there!?"

  • @heresthedealio3520
    @heresthedealio3520 Před rokem +2

    Awesome! I’d love to see an Electro or Green Goblin video next

  • @rehmanzo7861
    @rehmanzo7861 Před 3 měsíci

    22:07 “Then his therapist sets him on FIRE”this is the most hilarious sentence I’ve ever heard

  • @no.1spidey-fan182
    @no.1spidey-fan182 Před rokem +7

    Toxin was SOOO DOPE and had SO MUCH POTENTIAL. If theres ONE THING I DESPISED about marvel its how they treated the symbiotes spawns. Many symbiotes who were geneuinely GOOD people were MURDERED for the sake of Eddie and Cletus' development
    1.Toxin was offscreened by God Damn BLACKHEART of all the villains cause no one else would've been able to beat him
    2.Scorn MURDERED both literally and in terms of her characterization. She was Tech PLUS symbiote...SO MUCH POTENTIAL😭🤦‍♂️
    3.Hybrid was killed in cold blood for Eddie's "character development"...that was RETCONNED so they could throw him back eith Venom for the 2018 movie even though he HATED symbiotes. So he got offed for ZERO reason and the symbiotes that comprised him have just been thrown all over the place. Sidebar:Hell I actually rewrote the last act of Venom(2018) to include Hybrid since they can't use Spidey
    4. Scream was also killed and now she's on Mania but as...Silence(shpuldve been called Whisper but thats just me)
    5. Chemo Sym(can't remember his name but hes Venom latest spawn) is just...WEIRD. its like the writers STILL have ZRRO idea how to write the other symbiotes
    All in all marvel has really NO IDEA what to do with the vast world of symbiotes they have

    • @senorsnout4417
      @senorsnout4417 Před rokem

      Toxin is back now, and "chemo symbiote" is named Sleeper.

  • @harsblox844
    @harsblox844 Před rokem +4

    Nice vid

  • @facemask6376
    @facemask6376 Před rokem +1

    Great video my man. Keep going and I believe you'll hit 50k before the year ends

  • @rainbowdragon1872
    @rainbowdragon1872 Před 10 měsíci +1

    "cool, bank robbers time to stop th-- carnage has a gun....." LOL i freaking hollered

  • @kingsizyphus
    @kingsizyphus Před rokem +3

    5:58 me the moment I get a single compliment from another fellow man

  • @rattmcpossum
    @rattmcpossum Před rokem +5

    I’m glad carnage is getting more respect as he was my favourite back in the day! I low-key wish the venom sequel did him a bit better, but can’t complain bc this video is basically a film that reinforces my opinion