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I've done stuff this way before, but running those 8 outputs on the MPC into an analog mixer, even a cheap old Mackie, and doing separate EQ and FX can be really great too. I usually do that and then run the main outputs of the mixer into a compressor/limiter for final polish
Interesting that you say you've been doing this for two years. I've been watching some of your old videos these past few days and it really feels like your beats have leveled up the last two years, especially sonically. You have a really dope and unique sound now, the beats were nice before too of course but the way the analogue gear changes your audio really adds a unique touch!
I think owning gear made me more conscious about compression and equing, paying more attention to the way it acted on the music.
@@mpchead Yeah, and this is also why it's so hard to emulate the sound of the classic records/beats from the 90s. They had studios full of analog gear and engineers with technical knowledge that could make the beats sound a lot better than they sounded straight out the sampler or drum machine.
I get goosebumps when audio plugs make that whoofy pop when you put them in. I love that sound
Also really like that whitenoise thing you show with the Rhodes sound. That is extremely cool. I started messing with something like that in Vital because of you
Thank you for sharing! It is really cool to hear the differences in sound as you are going through your mixing chain, especially with that Analog Heat! That is a really nice piece! Appreciate ya bruh! Keep it goin!
I’ve been waiting for this video for so long. Thanks for sharing. Really unconventional mixing method with amazing result.
Love this video man. Totally agree that the noise between the Rhodes samples adds a really nice touch. You can also hear it in the background mixed in with the Rhodes chords while they're playing.
Great work fella it seems like a hybrid front of house way and especially the lovely warm vibes from the way its being processed , definately a great inspiration for those who want to take their music to the next live either live or recorded . Thank you so much Marlow.
Very informative vid. Thanks for sharing!! Much ❤ Marlow!!
Good video. This technique keeps it creative at every step.
Dope video again Marlow. In engineering terms this principle is called 'mixing into your masterbus' It entails that the effects used on your masterbus influence the mix proces.
Thanks Frank. Is this a new practice or has it been in use for some time now?
@@mpchead It is a common practice. Has been around for ages. Although in your process its applied extremely compared to most workflows in other genres. But that's the beauty of artistic freedom off course. Also producers like Madlib and Samiyam used the 303 and 404 vinyl sim compression to duck the sample chops under the drums by turning the drums up extremely before going in the compressor. It is part of that dope lofi flavour. Often mistaken for sidechain compression; but that's not what they did. It's this same technique. Keep up the lovely vibes brother.
@@OmeFrank Thanks man, good to see my experiments are in some way relating to great names like mad lib. I need to look up the technique a bit more and learn techniques to apply here.
@@mpchead Much love, and more power to you! Enjoy the holidays.
Thank you to share that with everybody! I’m doing this since a year or so where I send my mpc-x into the analog heat…and what a change that makes…and it’s so easy to tweak it to your likings, from subtle to a bit more ..so the analog heat is a brilliant piece of equipment that is worth every cent and is that icing on the cake which I wish I had 20 years ago where I bought my mpc 2000! Thank you Marlow ! :)
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I dig the signal chain Marlow. Happy holidays, and all the best to you, family and friends!
Happy Holidays to you ✌🏼
thank you so much, this is really helpful 🙏
great stuff....
I recently picked up a PortaStudio 414mkii, and I’m loving it for compression, EQ, grit from the preamps, and tape flavor. You have to like the aesthetic of a bit of tape noise, but I dig it. It’s sort of a cheap alternative to the Analog Heat. The trims can get so dirty they can act like a fuzz pedal if you wanted to crank them. Nice for guitar, bass, and keys. Quite inspiring to use.
Brilliant! 🔥🔥
Always love the music you make Marlow, you inspire me 🙏❤️
🙏🏼thank you
@@mpchead wouldn’t even know what to do with my MPC without your tutorials 🙏❤️
Thanks for the great video! I do it in a similar way. Im running the stereo out of my Polyend Tracker into my OG SP 404 and putting the vinyl sim on it. I'm thinking about buying an overdrive pedal as a cheap alternative to the Analog Heat to put at the end of my chain.
Hello Marlow, thanks for this video, very interesting your chain. All the best
I’ve recently been doing this same method, it adds so much more flavour to the beat and keeps me inspired. Keep up the good work.
I mix everything to a master out these days. Makes you take the sound more seriously while you're recording & putting the song together, then once you've recorded the master, you dont have / cant worry about the mix anymore. Then if i want to make any arrangement changes, i've gotta do it by chopping the master up.
Thank you Marlow!
Yo! Peace Marlow. I’ve been watching your videos for a while now. I’ve been on this method for with my MPC, 303 and 404. I like to think it helps learning to mix into a stereo channel. Once everything’s printed it stops you editing the arrangement which is helpful.
Nice ! I like this setup no screen.
Love the subtle details
Very fresh perspective, Marlow! Sometimes the encouragement to think outside the box in such a way is just the inspiration we need to unleash our creativity.
This reminds me of a comic convention in 1992. One guy was showing his pages to my favorite artist and the artist tells him: "you don't have to draw in all that detail with the blue pencil, if you're already inking it yourself." Just because something works a certain way, doesn't mean you can't get to the same place without a much effort.
Nice. I use the SPs this way all the time. The SX MKII and 202 all add different magic.
That's clever, I never thought about the ducking effect until you said it!
Yeah nice video, thank you. I do it same way with kick drum on my 2000xl routed to SP404og, so it's good to know, thats not stupid way.
I do all this in the box as well . I like it cuz I can drive certain drums or sounds more into the FX jus by turning the insert up Pre FX. It nice
Your studio is looking legendary now
excellent video! super interested in these things regarding to how to make the mix stand out. I bought the analog heat while ago after seeing it in your videos and when it comes to mixing I use it a lot. makes me want to experiment, Great video!!
Hey Elektron makes some great products, the analog heat is definitely a gem.
Bro your channel is so helpful
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Cool video and dope beat! The sound is so damn good. Thanks for sharing. Im wondering how you arrange your beats. Do you live perfom while recording everything into your pc?
Muito Obrigado Mano.#SALUTE
You Help me alote Brother , keep doing the good work.
Nice man I do a very similar process. Out my mains into analog heat then through my outboard compressor and EQ. Been considering getting that new 404 for the effects an now seeing how you use it I think I’m gonna order it. Dope sounds as always man 🔥
The 404 gives a lot of different options with the different filters and weird effects.
gems on gems!!!
I use to stereo out my mpc to an old master Eq I bought for Lil of nothing and a cheap compressor
Even in a DAW i always have a compressor on my master and when i mix i mix into it
Dope
I also even now Eq and sometimes conpress samples going in
Thanks for the video. Nice track, great sound and brillant workflow tips. Is there a comparable compressor to the 404 on the Akai MPC live II? That’s what I am
making my beats on , and I am thinking of taking the master out of that and running it through an Analog Heat (which I‘m yet to buy) . I love the sound of that 404 compression but I can’t afford both that AND the analog heat !
Cheers in advance!
Buena cadena ;)
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Nice work!
Thanks!✌🏼
Dope!
id love to see this same example with a beat on the sp404sx. i love how you use the analog heat.
should be the same but with the effects from the sx instead
I’m with you, trying to mix before and after a “master out” is a headache
The Heat does seem like a mastering tool for you
Por acaso o heat parece incrível!
That's interesting as i do kind of similar thing though i use Maschine and my mixing tools are in the virtual space for the most part. But i always lower the volume on samples when loading a kit and then use Master Bus Compressor with Sidechain that glues everything and evens it out while boosting the overall volume a bit. There is also limiter and sometimes i use this Tape Saturation FX that i have which boosts the volume without distorting the sound as well and give is it that sort of bitcrush crunch touch. It's really fun thing to experiment with these techniques and figure it out along the way by yourself not trying to make it so polished and mastered and all of that jazz.
Yeah for me it's much better to work this way and experiment with ideas and not be concerned about doing the "right" way.
Hi, are the drums on MPC60 sampled from the record ? Does the kick is layered ? It sounds amazing man, greetings
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Yo Marlow, I loved this one, very clever and useful!
I was wondering: how do you behave with peaking on the 404, I mean does it peak constantly?
I've a 2000xl going out in a sp 303 vinyl comp and I'm always overconscious about peaking too much. Thank you again for sharing the knowledge and happy holidays!
The 404 has volume control in case you need it but I don't worry about peaking, as long as the sounds doesn't distort I am ok. I can always lower the volume coming in to the SP by lowering the instrument.
Do you have the Analog Heat link. Nice set up. I may have to get an SP404 now 😂
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That's not mastering, it's part of mixing. Great beats. All the best.
he opens it up by saying it's on his mix 2 bus, and saying that most people might, although wrongfully, call this their mastering chain.
Some saw also have the master channel, so you could rightfully call this the master chain fx
What exactly are you doing on the SP? Some details would be extremely helpful. Looking for something to beef up the sound when I’m going out of my mpc2500, so it doesn’t sound so “thin”.
Alright Marlow!!! I see that you went ahead and implemented your mixing techniques into your video... Great job!!! I know we spoke about doing this some time ago...
chill
Can we get an updated video about your video recording gear and process? Thanks!
Sure, in a few weeks I can get that out.
@@mpchead Obrigado!
ideally you want it on separate tracks
Can I request a video on live playing? I always see people live play their tunes with their mpcs but wonder how they mix it, whether they mix it in the mpc, or mix it after in a daw, or if they just mime it? It might be a stupid question so forgive me please
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When you on one of the legacy MPC how do you incorporate Room FX like reverb, delay etc. cause these don' t have FX built inside? On the new MPCs this is no problem cause you have a full fledged FX suite with them. So, you don' t track out your single tracks into the computer for mixing and mastering and just mix with the stereo out? What about stereo imaging, cleaning up sounds with EQs, adding frequencies that the sounds benefit from.
You said in order to lower the kick coming from you use the compressor from the SP 404 MK2? Why don' t you just turn the volume of the kick down on the MPC itself? This doesn' make any sense to me. It always says: "Don' t fix in the mix" 😎
Peace and love from Germany!
I don't lower the kick in the mpc because I want the kick to smash the compressor (not in every beat) I want the compressor to really work and create a compression effect on the whole mix. If I lower the kick in the mix, once it hits the compressor the punch is not gonna be hard but smooth and all the other sound won't be affected as well or will be affected in a different way.
To add effects to the legacy mpc I have to send the sounds out into external effects and sample it back in to the mpc, it's a lot of work.
@@mpchead Gotcha! Thx for this insight on your workflows 👌
Sweet, creamy, cherry on top. Got it!
Really interesting technique. Do only record a two track in your daw?
Yes that's it
@@mpchead thanks for answering.
That’s crazy. I really enjoy your stuff and printing all the arrangement and performance on an a two track is really dope. Did you something in the box like run it to ozone?
I like the idea doing as much is possible with the hardware.
Do you find you enjoy mixing more with analog gear as opposed to in the box?
Yeah without question, I prefer the physical interaction and I also learn a lot more from it, I pay more attention to detail
❤️❤️❤️❤️ giving me ideas.
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do you get alot of signal delay by the time it hits your computer? i literally go mpc>USB mixer>computer and there's notable delay from what the mpcs playing.
No delay at all. As soon as I press play it records it's all analog connections.
What is the "analog heat" piece of equipment?
Marlow has a video describing the Analog Heat MK2. Check his other videos.
Sounds nice, though personally I feel the snare sound a bit too “Q’ed” to my ears.
Turn the res down on that filter just a tad
you still using the heritage audio?
Yes, all the time
after watching and hearing in your previous video I bought the analog heat.. boom 🤯🤯🤯!! My beats sounds “better”, everything sounds better!! Thank you. My chain is similar to yours, mpc> ah > sp
Yeah, the Heat is a secret sauce.
@@mpchead 🔥 I’m trying to master the dry wet knob and anything in between.. little step goes a loooong way ;)
Do you use a different compressor as well, or do you just let the 303 sim do all the compression?
In this case I was just using the 303, sometimes I use more than one compressor. I normally use two compressors in between equalizers.
please make tutorials for people from the third world... don't forget us... we can't buy all these equipments.. not even if we had 3 lives... don't forget the main roots of hiphop... poor people from the neighborhood... no money.
Dear marlow digs, could you explain to me how a third world person who obviously even if he worked all his life could not buy the equipment you have(300 dollars a month for work), could get this sound or get close to this kind of sound... it really is a pity for the people of Latin America that all this equipment is for rich people.
please make tutorials for people from the third world... don't forget us... we can't buy all these equipments.. not even if we had 3 lives... don't forget the main roots of hiphop... poor people from the neighborhood... no money.
Dude it's the same. gear doesnt do anything to your sound maybe adds some coloration and that's it.
Did you not hear the A/B comparison? The difference is huge, sonically
Do yourself a favor and never mix the Beats with the Mastering Chain.
Beats should always Sound awesome when they are done in the Maschine (Sp 303, Sp 606, Mpc 500, Mpc 2500 se, Yamaha QY70 in my Case).
And then go to your Mastering Tools and finalize the Sound to your Sound.
Greetings from Germany to Portugal
Why? Because someone on the internet said not to do that? He should keep doing what he’s doing.
@@IanJamesBeats Because music is about waveforms and frequencies, with incorrectly mixed and mastered music, the waveforms are cut off at the end and become angular and thus destroyed because every waveform is rounded, except for the square wave in synthesizers. If the waveforms are destroyed, the music doesn't sound good, it can't. This has been the industry standard for over 50 years, regardless of whether it is rock, pop, classical or electronic music including hip hop, rap.
Marlow can mix and master however he likes, but if he loves his beats and wants the best possible sonic result, he should stick to industry standards. Everything else is counterproductive and even bad for your stereo system as square wave signals can destroy your speakers.
Greetings from Germany
@@mareikemacinnes7764 There’s mastering after this step. Marlow was my most played artist in my end of the year Spotify roundup so whatever he’s doing seems to work 🤷🏼♂️
@@TheMattmatic I'm happy for Marlow and his music. But your preference for his music says nothing about the technical quality of his music. I prefer to leave that to spectrum analysis devices and other audio measurement tools.
Did you know that 36 Chambers by Wu Tang from RZA were produced with the first ProTools version? He knew the inventor and was a beta tester. This is one of my favorite albums but the audio quality is just bad. I bet RZA would try harder with the album today and observe industry standards because it annoys him himself that the audio quality is not good. Think about it if you don't listen to your beats in 30 years and think, I should have .....
@@mareikemacinnes7764 Good and bad are subjective in art. 36 Chambers is a timeless classic that sounds amazing to this day, and the rawness of the audio quality is a big part of that. Like Dilla once put it, it sounds like it's "straight from the muthafucking cassette". Later Wu-Tang albums don't have the same magic to me. It lacks the unpolished rawness. That's the beauty of music though, that it's very subjective. I can appreciate Steely Dan too, but if you make these type of beats, you don't usually want a pristine, "professional" sound. And as far as I can tell, Marlows music doesn't seem to damage my speakers :D
Boas Marlow, obrigado por partilhares o teu processo de producao. Tens One on One sections desponiveis? se for esse o caso existe a opcao Online ou apenas presencial?