hi as an indonesia I LIKE YOUR VID. WE ARE FAAAR MORE SCARED OF USA ATTEMPTING TO CONTROL OUR COUNTRY THAN CHINESE SLOW DEVELOPMENT INFLUINCING OUR COUNTRY. hehehehehe,by scared(polite) we mean we feel THREATEN economically by USA after lost of trust during asian financial crisis "help" that destroyed our economy instead. UNTRUSTWORTHY! very angry
hi as an indonesian I LIKE your video, WE"Indonesian citizen's media" IS FAAAR MORE SCARED of USA" involvement in politics&economics at our country. by scared(polite word) we mean we feel threaten and anger remembering the main culprit for our economic destruction during the asian financial crisis WAS US FINANCIAL HELP PLAN(through their global organization) we always thought USA defender of japan is trustworthy but...... We won't forget how they destroyed our potential..... delayed it, thankfully china has different plans and wants a strong Indonesia. so yay!,btw the elites have a different view of USA since most are western educated. they trust USA and their actions more. some idioticly push pro Israel in spite of infertile grounds.
Amerika sok2an mikirin muslimin di China dan mengkritik China tentang HAM, sedangkan muslimin di Palestina yg dijajah Israel dan dibantai termasuk anak kecil dan wanita oleh Israel malah didukung AS, karena kriminalnya dilakukan oleh sekutunya, kemunafikan yg nyata
Yes Indonesia is more careful than to lean to US economic help during aasian financial crisis. but USA might change their strategy of ripping us off and is still richer despite FAAAR more aggressive than china. so still neutral due to USA being richer
When the U$A says they want to help you by building infrastructure in your country, they don't mean hospitals, roads, schools, etc. They mean military bases. --island country saying
ugh, if you met "chinese indonesians" like me. please refer to us as chindo or Indonesian of ethnic Chinese descents. our opponents and haters like calling us foreigner and Chinese(not Indonesian)
@@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice i know lot chindo in jakarta, surabaya , depok they are indonesians and its true the real indonesians are muslims so they pick allways the christians or chindo's as their targets if politics happend bad.
@@D.N.A.23 do your research, its been confirmed, 1st migration from afrika, followed by Jerusalem, India, Austronesia, etc There is no native indonesia, native indonesian is negroid in papua, in sumatra, aceh, timor leste but mostly are gone from cleansing ethnicities.. Religion was created by politicians and authorities to control people, to fight each other. Indonesia's emblem is Garuda, its from Hindu. Hinduism is Indonesia's foundation. Gotong royong was being taught by ancestors thru generations since before BC. Please learn and read diligently, dont be ignorant. Our ancestors died bcoz lack of knowledge. So learn from the past!
Palestine lived in their country for 3000+ years, that is most of Jerusalem Judah only owning a small part of it for a season, as I discovered from the bible which goes hand in hand with history! Palestine is a descendant of Abraham also as he had 5 sons, only 2 named Ishmael and Isaac! After Sarah died he remarried and had 3 more son's to whom he gave wealth and sent away from where he resided at that time!
@@rozaliamajores4798 Muslims are being erased in China and you want to blame the U.S. for Gaza tiny population vs the Muslims in China? The U.S. extends all benefits of citizenship to its Muslims protecting their mosques giving them assistance like any other citizen. I’m shocked how low Islam is sliding to get Chinese money.
The US strong-arm tactic to force Indonesia into an awkward position to choose US and western sphere of influence against China is to enforce full compliance to US interest and US foreign policy all over the world. Southeast Asia is composed of eleven countries of impressive diversity in religion, culture and history. All countries would like to have friendly relationship with the US and China without having to choose sides on the dispute and it is not in our interests to do so. We are living in the region in Asia with China as neighbor and not in North America with the US. Any countries that have been subjugated by the US and the Western colonial powers of Europe will not look too kindly at the US and the West. Asian countries will not support the US and the West sinister narrative and open hostility and vociferous propaganda against China. The US is the master of dissemination of information: facts, arguments, rumours, half-truths, or lies to influence public opinion. Deliberateness and a relatively heavy emphasis on manipulation distinguish propaganda from casual conversation or the free and easy exchange of ideas. Mike Pompeo who served as director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 2017 to 2018 and as the 70th United States secretary of state from 2018 to 2021 has famously said that the US cheat, steal and lies to suit US interest in a public forum. The US negative narrative on China is to demonize and creates an adverse reactions on China to suit US whim. The US like to portrays other countries as an antagonists as well as an adversary when the US face with competition to its economy and its primacy that the US regard it as their domains and sphere of influence and will not accept any competition from another country. Well, that’s US and that’s just the way US is and always has been.
@@paultsjan6047 you can tell that person really did their homework, but like most Chinese attempts at being a normal human rights type of country can’t see past their own nose to see that their country treats it’s neighbors like sh*t.
@@gachasis2704 China is systematically eradicating Muslims within their borders, any Muslim Majority Country doing business with China is committing blasphemy against Allah.
@@thulomanchay anda tidak mengenal Indonesia... Bahkan awal merdeka Indonesia di prediksi akan pecah, tapi kami punya Pancasila dan bhineka tunggal ika yang mencegah Indonesia pecah bahkan di masa depan.
Asia, and Africa, are moving away from Colonial countries like the U.S. and EU countries. These former Plantation Owners, don't benefit Asia. BRICS is made of non-Colonial countries, that is why it is so attractive
@@reedpunteuet3632 tbh, I’m not sure from those 3 president candidates, which one were supported by the US to topple indonesian government. All looks like the correct answer. 😂
Unfortunately, the US in indonesia is increasingly seen as a bully. China is also troublesome in relation to South China sea, but it helps indonesia much in economics sector. On the other hand, the West in general only offer tons of sanctions on Indonesia if it does not 'behave' in accordance to their wish.
Takut anaknya dikawasan di bom oleh TNI Indonesia..🤣🤣🤣 contoh Indonesia mau beli su57,35 dn s400 Rusia,sibuk Amerika ngasih sangsi CATSA ke Indonesia..🥴🥴 GK boleh Indonesia maju,
Indonesia boleh, who is the US to force Indonesia? Indonesia wants trade and peace in this region and not to be used as a puppet of the US like the Philippines, Japan, South Korea 😂.
Persaingan mancuria dan Han. PKC dan nasionalis China. Pada akhirnya yang kalah mayoritas mengungsi ke Indonesia. Jadilah warga negara Indonesia yang baik dan jangan membuat ulah
shut up we want to be neutral so we can get rich Not to get strong to fight. just get some leverage for if someone tries anything we join the other side.usa is FAAAR more aggressive than china but still richer so neutral
Indonesia's non-alignment policy makes it a neutral party between China snd the US, but it is increasingly drawn to a closer economic tie with China. It will be a shamefully futile attempt by Uncle Sam to pressure Indonesia to reject China.
Not Indonesia's fault they refused to invest in Indonesia's industry sectors like China did. Indonesia do not want any US military base in its own lands. We had enough with just US military bases in our neighbour countries and hope they do not multiply around us.
Since their's a theory of the past presidents being influenced too much by US and start selling our own equipment and stuff that's why we are poorer than in the past and still a bit poor and the CPP is not helping
Indonesia has learned a lot about cooperation with the US where political struggles in the US have hampered cooperation with the US, one of which is the economic and equipment embargo, Indonesia prefers open cooperation without any political pressure.
USA had been pressuring Indonesia since the 50's ,60's , up to present day. 1965 - 1990, Indonesia cut diplomatic ties with China and aligned to USA. Even today, top Indonesian military generals, government officials are mostly USA-educated and anti-China sentiment among the locals remain strong due to political and racism despite China being the biggest trading partner to Indonesia.
@@bang4buck326 Every country leaders will usually act according to their own interests. Today is not like yesterday and Indonesia interaction with a more powerful China will not be the same as before.
Indonesia, where the dominant religion is Islam and support Palestine, why does US think they can just tell a sovereign country how to run their economy? The US will just create poverty and misery for Indonesia.
Indonesia bersama Malaysia dan Thailand mesti menandatangani janjian Strategic Partnership dengan dua Negara anti-Amerika iaitu Rusia dan China .untuk menjamin keselamatan negara masing masing.
tidak perlu pun ikut kata2 US.. tiada keuntungan pun..rupiah jatuh,hutang membengkak,investor lari. lebih baik neutral...join brick. perdagangan dgn negara brick ikut cara brick,perdagangan dgn euro pakai dollar seperti biasa...
@@DaudJusoh-ix8st Kemajuan itu dibayar mahal. Jika kerugian sedikit itu wajar. Sejalan dengan waktu sedikit kerugian akan terbalik jadi menguntungkan. Saat ini sedang direncanakan untuk kereta cepat ke 2....JAKARTA SURABAYA. (Yang jelas pasarannyapun bukan menengah kebawah... Tapi kelas menegah keatas...yg saat ini telah mencapai 100 juta orang). Jika ada yg miskin...WAJAR😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁penduduk Indonesia saat ini mungkin telah melebihi 280 juta orang.
@@Joshua-tf6jvitulah jebakan hutang dilakukan imf ..kolusi jaga penguasa dgn uang , bentuk kuasa Marcos Marcos, gunakan fitnah busuk komunis akan sita harta, agama jadikan politik teroris, untuk amankan Amerika eropa, conto Afrika sekarang menjauh dan ikut one belt one road.
Corrected run by an 80-year-old man, he should have stayed in the old people's home sometimes you donot know what the hell he is talking about in front of his TV screen and sometimes you feel like his fake teeth will fall off when his smile.
With Joko Widodo retreated into the background, the U.S. is betting its hope on Prabowo Subianto for Indonesia's change of heart. Lloyd Austin sent congratulation note to Prabowo in April 2024 and Antony Blinken flew to Jakarta to meet with him in June 2024. Contrary to past practices, Prabowo did not see the U.S. as an important ally but flew to Beijing to meet with Xi Jinping since he became President-elect of Indonesia. With the exception of Bongbong Marcos who was taken hostage over his father's corruption misdeeds, all other 9 members of ASEAN have strongly expressed their desires to stay neutral in U.S.-China rivalry; in effect, they all prefer trade and prosperity for the welfare of their own citizens over chaos, wars and destructions the U.S. is attempting to bring to Southeast Asia in its efforts to contain the rise of the Chinese nation. Good luck, U.S.A.!!!
The party that chose Prabowo was PSI, where PSI is Joko Widodo's party, which means that even though Prabowo becomes president, Prabowo is still under Joko Widodo's supervision
@@rosemarydwitasari4693😂😂 gk tau otaknya pak Prabowo loe,, mna ada PK Prabowo tunduk PD barat,, kecuali kerja sama yg baik seperti Prancis.. kemarin SJ PK Prabowo sdh terbang ke Tiongkok, turki, Prancis, Rusia negara yg di anggap mitra utama Indonesia..🇮🇩💪
for military defense equipment, political dan economy. US always interferes. as if they understand what's best for us. no !!! we learn from experience when the US and Western Europe imposed an military embargo on indonesia. while on the other hand they practice double standars. amazing!!!
For Defense a little by a little Indonesia develop their own defense industry. Cooperation with western just to learn the defense technology. It's true Prabowo past is related with US hegemony, but time has change and mindset also change. This time Prabowo win president election because of mindset change, after working closely with Jokowi as defense minister for 5 years. This is what make peoples choose him after 3 periods of loose in presidential election.
tidak. pada KTT brics tahun lalu di Afrika Selatan, Indonesia menolak halus ajakan untuk masuk, kami lebih memilih OECD untuk menopang perekonomian kami. maksudku, brics sekarang hanyalah pelayan untuk kepentingan China dan Russia, india bahkan tidak terwakili jika kita mau lihat perkembangan yang ada.
Amerika selalu menebar permusuhan dan mengajak negara lain ikut2an memusuhi musuhnya Amerika, sedangkan China lebih kepada pembangunan dan ekonomi serta tidak ikut campur urusan domestik negara2 lain
Indonesia tdk takut AS dkk dan jg China , Indonesia tdk boleh di atur2 negara asing mereka siapa sok atur2 Indonesia ini itu silahkan atur pejabat korup antek asing 👽 tapi kami rakyatnya tidak sudi Indonesia NKRI harga mati
Indonesia bekerja sama dengan China di bidang ekonomi,di satu sisi Indonesia juga tidak suka China mengganggu Laut Filipina dan lebih luas laut ASEAN ! Politik kami bebas aktif bisa bekerjasama dengan siapapun asal jangan mengganggu Kedaulatan
Because of information like this, people realize that the US government and the US corporations are one and the same. Corporate greed and profit margins triumphs over humanity's well-being.
I don't think the figure quoted for logistics cost in Indonesia at 11% is definitely too low! At this rate she would be the 2nd best in ASEAN after Singapore! Because of numerous inter-island requirements based on Cabotage policy, the rate is actually 24% of her GDP; followed by Philippines at 19% , the highest within ASEAN.
Of course, the US is helping Indonesia with defense sales, the US will always provide the weapons, but that country, (fill in the blank) will always provide the dead bodies.
Bung, Anda lupa atau sengaja tidak menyebutkan, Indonesia adalah Penyerap carbon terbesar di muka bumi. Kami mempunyai lautan yang kuas, hutan hijau yang luas, mangrove atau hutan bakau terluas di muka bumi. Kami bisa saja menebang hutan kami sperti Eropa untuk kepentingan nasional kami. Kami paham sekali posisi strategis kami yang sangat berpengaruh bagi kelangsungan hidup makhluk di muka bumi. Anda tahu penyumbang polusi terbesar di dunia seperti China, India, USA, jepang, seul. Euro, etc... Semua negara itu harus berterima kasih pada indonesia atas komitmen nya menjaga hutan hijau nya.. Jika tidak maka kita akan menderita bersama.
As an Indonesian myself who have been living for 40 years since the rule of the western-aligned President Soeharto to the eastern-aligned President Jokowi, I would prefer Indonesia as a Chinese ally in Southeast Asia. Moreover, based on the latest statistics by Yushof Ishak Institute od Singapore, around 70% Indonesians nowadays prefer to align their country with China than the US.
halah ntar juga klo harga nya pas juga muter balik, blinken sowan ke MUI sama NU bawa dollar juga langsung varokah US have Blackrock and Blackstone wakanda have MUI and NU same sh1t different c0lor
There's good information, but you need to shorten the videos with summary that explains the bigger picture and what it means, fewer statistics that are hard to digest by listening, be very strict to avoid ANY repetition, eg Indonesia is so important because....., use more visual aid like charts, and let the viewers grasp why your information is important to them, in 5 minutes.
i think indonesia always take a balanced foreign policy, they dont commit to one partner, anyone can be a partner as long as it's fair. they did the same in cold war era, balancing both USA and Soviet
As Indonesian in my views, China is favored more bcs they help us in more than USA nowadays. Also USA political movement in their entertainment (LGBT, Extreme Feminism, Veganism etc.) doesn't land well with majorities of Indonesian. Indonesian is pretty homophobic and not receiving this culture easily. But their entertainment products forcing it so often that make us steer away from it and consuming South Korean, Chinese, Thai, and others. Either Movies, Games, Series, etc. While China doesn't meddle with Indonesia politics. While US offer a tons of transactions but they demand changing too much to their liking and forcing Indonesia to do that isn't pretty realistic to do and by the time is done, USA will benefit more and those transactions already fulfilled by China. Also USA is known to meddling with politics that can cause civil war or riots, it happens to us around 80-90s. While China also have black history in Indonesia G30S and Riots in 1998, it's shown USA is one pouring gasoline to this incidents. But China today arrived just to trade not injecting anything extreme like in 80-90s. So while I aware more Chinese factory and company everywhere in Indonesia, Indonesian accept it easily as it also help their economy. Bcs of our controversial time today in politics and history with USA. No wonder Indonesia steer away from USA. Also Palestine vs Israel is condemned everywhere and Indonesia obviously take the Palestinian side bcs we also suffer the similar fate, religion solidarity and ofc who support wars? While it seems one sided here in Indonesia but it happens bcs USA seems one sided too. Not only Indonesia feeling this. So yeah this further steer away our politics from USA. While USA is the one strengthening military, it more impactful China strengthen economy since it help so many civilians in every job, wealth or positions they are in. Last USA seems to struggle in economy and it known widely. Forced tipping culture, underpaid jobs, guns legality, housing problems, homeless, drugs, weird problems coming from nowhere, extremist activism/movements, etc. It's intimidating to us Indonesian to follow USA demand not thinking these issues will carried to Indonesia slowly. Hell even some of them already here but still shy away from public and we can proudly says we did handle these better than USA. Indonesia is neutral country and still is. So yeah, if USA don't demand too much and try to bend politics in Indonesia this won't happen. And China influence is shown through today modern architecture, facility, electronics, etc. that way affordable and almost as good as USA. Even USA/EU content creators that visit Bali, Jakarta, Tangerang, Bekasi, Bandung, Surabaya, etc. seems to see infrastructure in Indonesia is no joke and some even better than their own country.
"Rowing between two island" is the famous words from our first vice president. It clearly show where indonesia stand in the global community. From the very beginning of our existence as a sovereign republic we stand on neutrality and reject any sort of rivalry towards other nation. We welcome everyone and we accept every country participation in our growth but don't expect us to bow down. Eventhough china is indeed our biggest investor as for today but when they disrespect our sovereignty by coming to our territory illegally, we fight and we fought hard. We will fight everyone who blatantly disregard our sovereignty as a nation eventhough we are fully aware that we might not able to win but we will fight. And we don't in any ways ever be in a military alliance with any nation due to our hundreds friends zero enemy and that includes even israel, a country many thought we hate but we still dealing and do some business with them eventhough there isn't any formal diplomatic relations between us.
semenjak dibentuknya AUKUS, kami tau persis kenapa aliansi itu dibentuk, mereka kira kita bodoh ... bisa saja di masa depan indonesia keluar dari zona negara non blok dan memihak ke blok timur.
PK Prabowo lbih tau tentang yg baik untuk Indonesia,mna mau dia diatur Amerika.. kemarin sj sdh terbang ke Rusia bertemu saudara nya pk putin..😂😂 kata pk Prabowo,kk klo ada yg ganggu Indonesia pinjamin su57,s400,s500,bomber,kpl selam nuklir, nuklir jelajah,ya kk.. Putin; tenang dik, pasti KK kasih semua nya, ingat kan pasukan inggris dn Belanda semua kpl perang dn tank tempur nya JD abu di irian Barat dlu..kk akan sll bntu Indonesia.😀😀🇮🇩💪🇷🇺
What interesting is that US do pressure to any countries while CN not do that. US keep said CN is this and CN is that to other countries while CN not said anything bad about US to other countries. It is just feel like US act like debt collector while CN act like merchant.
Kesalahan terbesar pemimpin amerika adalah jika berfikir doktrin mereka masih berpengaruh di Indonesia, pemimpin serta rakyat kita mayoritas tahu apa yg dilakukan Amerika dulu pada Indonesia. Sory kami tidak mau masuk jurang yang sama, jika harus berteman dengan amerika utk urusan yang sama yakni ekonomi.
you mean the high speed train? US doesn't even have one, plus if you take a nice look on US subway train from NYC, you'll know it has so many rats and annoying passenger.
You notice these investments by China in various BRI and other countries can be shown with actual projects on the ground, whereas when it comes to listing U.S. investment projects, it's always "the U.S. has pledged $xxx for infrastructure projects" but there are no actual projects to show. The U.S. is all talk and no walk, because it's bankrupt from financing too many wars and regime coups to help keep their worldly hegemony, rather than realize there are no longer any kings and it's time to get their own country in order!
in the end of the day indonesia still a non-aligned country, we will always choose our own interests than aligned with either the west or east. in fact these days we use the us for military training and technology and china for economy and infrastructure
I still doubt whether relations between Indonesia and China are still good? considering that in Indonesia itself anti-Chinese sentiment still exists today (not sure how many percent)
I think just likes in the past , In era hindus and Buddha Indonesia is always maintain balancing those outside culture, politics and religion who influences Indonesia at that time likes hindus and Buddha is competeting
US Pressure on Africa to Choose World Bank Over China: Watch the video here: czcams.com/video/tsDB-QJtm30/video.html
@@fastepo Chinese takeover of Africa phase 1 ask Hong Kong how it goes in phase 2
hi as an indonesia I LIKE YOUR VID. WE ARE FAAAR MORE SCARED OF USA ATTEMPTING TO CONTROL OUR COUNTRY THAN CHINESE SLOW DEVELOPMENT INFLUINCING OUR COUNTRY. hehehehehe,by scared(polite) we mean we feel THREATEN economically by USA after lost of trust during asian financial crisis "help" that destroyed our economy instead. UNTRUSTWORTHY! very angry
hi as an indonesian I LIKE your video, WE"Indonesian citizen's media" IS FAAAR MORE SCARED of USA" involvement in politics&economics at our country. by scared(polite word) we mean we feel threaten and anger remembering the main culprit for our economic destruction during the asian financial crisis WAS US FINANCIAL HELP PLAN(through their global organization) we always thought USA defender of japan is trustworthy but...... We won't forget how they destroyed our potential..... delayed it, thankfully china has different plans and wants a strong Indonesia. so yay!,btw the elites have a different view of USA since most are western educated. they trust USA and their actions more. some idioticly push pro Israel in spite of infertile grounds.
I prefer to trade with China, than Usa is dangerous as 'friend'
Amerika sok2an mikirin muslimin di China dan mengkritik China tentang HAM, sedangkan muslimin di Palestina yg dijajah Israel dan dibantai termasuk anak kecil dan wanita oleh Israel malah didukung AS, karena kriminalnya dilakukan oleh sekutunya, kemunafikan yg nyata
The US was built on hypocrisy, genocide, racism,inequality, discrimination, lies, deceit, etc.
Double standart biasa
@@saretahwarlim8982 standar ganda Barat
@@saretahwarlim8982 tabiat orang barat
Dan ada campur tangan As,,,dan mereka tutup mata atas keturutsertaan mereka membantai rakyat Gaza
Outside if military, The USA offers nothing economically.
That's my invisible comment.
@@junman-on3yz Ukraine can't vouch for the US military support statement. Ergo, nothing.
Well, they lead the world in idiocy.
Ur forgot FREEPORT
I Phone, You Tube, Face book all bad for Islam teaching.
Indo nesia knows what u.s did with their economy in 1980s to 90s
Yes Indonesia is more careful than to lean to US economic help during aasian financial crisis. but USA might change their strategy of ripping us off and is still richer despite FAAAR more aggressive than china. so still neutral due to USA being richer
neutral till the majority muslim nations join russia china @@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice
Yes
from 1970 when his pion gain power. he then give US 2 mountain with cooper, gold, silver etc for free nearly 40 year.
@@mna7308 Yea, and also the US labeling us as terorist.
When the U$A says they want to help you by building infrastructure in your country, they don't mean hospitals, roads, schools, etc.
They mean military bases.
--island country saying
I cant agree more mate
Yea that's right, they're labeling us as terorist. Imagine, why would they help terorist 😂😂.
The Filipinos know exactly what you mean! They will NEVER help with infrastructure unless it has visible tangible benefits to their war machine!
Indonesia , China are good buisness partners and friend for decades many chinese indonesians live for century's in indonesia 😊
ugh, if you met "chinese indonesians" like me. please refer to us as chindo or Indonesian of ethnic Chinese descents. our opponents and haters like calling us foreigner and Chinese(not Indonesian)
actually chinese indonesians is fine for calling us, thanks it's just some extreme hater might get triggered and shout we are traitors lol
@@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice i know lot chindo in jakarta, surabaya , depok they are indonesians and its true the real indonesians are muslims so they pick allways the christians or chindo's as their targets if politics happend bad.
Chinese descents in Indonesia are Indonesian. Correct your history bro. You can trace back from our ancient dna as well
@@D.N.A.23 do your research, its been confirmed, 1st migration from afrika, followed by Jerusalem, India, Austronesia, etc There is no native indonesia, native indonesian is negroid in papua, in sumatra, aceh, timor leste but mostly are gone from cleansing ethnicities.. Religion was created by politicians and authorities to control people, to fight each other. Indonesia's emblem is Garuda, its from Hindu. Hinduism is Indonesia's foundation. Gotong royong was being taught by ancestors thru generations since before BC. Please learn and read diligently, dont be ignorant. Our ancestors died bcoz lack of knowledge. So learn from the past!
after palestin you think any muslim country would trust u.s😂😂😂
We give more money to Palestine than any other country on earth. WE PROTECT the MUSLIM faith in the United States.
China is putting Muslims in Concentration Camps never to be heard from again.
HELL NO!😂😂
Palestine lived in their country for 3000+ years, that is most of Jerusalem Judah only owning a small part of it for a season, as I discovered from the bible which goes hand in hand with history! Palestine is a descendant of Abraham also as he had 5 sons, only 2 named Ishmael and Isaac! After Sarah died he remarried and had 3 more son's to whom he gave wealth and sent away from where he resided at that time!
@@rozaliamajores4798 Muslims are being erased in China and you want to blame the U.S. for Gaza tiny population vs the Muslims in China? The U.S. extends all benefits of citizenship to its Muslims protecting their mosques giving them assistance like any other citizen. I’m shocked how low Islam is sliding to get Chinese money.
The US strong-arm tactic to force Indonesia into an awkward position to choose US and western sphere of influence against China is to enforce full compliance to US interest and US foreign policy all over the world.
Southeast Asia is composed of eleven countries of impressive diversity in religion, culture and history.
All countries would like to have friendly relationship with the US and China without having to choose sides on the dispute and it is not in our interests to do so.
We are living in the region in Asia with China as neighbor and not in North America with the US.
Any countries that have been subjugated by the US and the Western colonial powers of Europe will not look too kindly at the US and the West.
Asian countries will not support the US and the West sinister narrative and open hostility and vociferous propaganda against China.
The US is the master of dissemination of information: facts, arguments, rumours, half-truths, or lies to influence public opinion.
Deliberateness and a relatively heavy emphasis on manipulation distinguish propaganda from casual conversation or the free and easy exchange of ideas.
Mike Pompeo who served as director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 2017 to 2018 and as the 70th United States secretary of state from 2018 to 2021 has famously said that the US cheat, steal and lies to suit US interest in a public forum.
The US negative narrative on China is to demonize and creates an adverse reactions on China to suit US whim.
The US like to portrays other countries as an antagonists as well as an adversary when the US face with competition to its economy and its primacy that the US regard it as their domains and sphere of influence and will not accept any competition from another country.
Well, that’s US and that’s just the way US is and always has been.
Indonesia is a tinderbox, and the US know that.
They'll easily use local "valets" to cause a flare-up.
@@paultsjan6047 you can tell that person really did their homework, but like most Chinese attempts at being a normal human rights type of country can’t see past their own nose to see that their country treats it’s neighbors like sh*t.
Excellent summation. Thank you.
@@gachasis2704 China is systematically eradicating Muslims within their borders, any Muslim Majority Country doing business with China is committing blasphemy against Allah.
@@thulomanchay anda tidak mengenal Indonesia...
Bahkan awal merdeka Indonesia di prediksi akan pecah, tapi kami punya Pancasila dan bhineka tunggal ika yang mencegah Indonesia pecah bahkan di masa depan.
Indonesia leaders have balls💪💪💪
the whole wide world has been watching the USA dollar dropped by many world countries
Ditch USD😂
@@choonhockong8215 big world change is coming fast
@@choonhockong8215 if the American dollar disappears from the world, just look at me World War 3 will soon start
Asia, and Africa, are moving away from Colonial countries like the U.S. and EU countries. These former Plantation Owners, don't benefit Asia. BRICS is made of non-Colonial countries, that is why it is so attractive
Beautifully stated!
Indonesia must be highly alert to prevent the U.S. intention to topple its regime ....
They have tried secretly in recent president election and it failed miserably 😁
@@reedpunteuet3632 tbh, I’m not sure from those 3 president candidates, which one were supported by the US to topple indonesian government. All looks like the correct answer. 😂
@@reedpunteuet3632 yeah, Anis Baswedan is actually US puppet. No wonder why their supporter hate china so much.
Unfortunately, the US in indonesia is increasingly seen as a bully. China is also troublesome in relation to South China sea, but it helps indonesia much in economics sector. On the other hand, the West in general only offer tons of sanctions on Indonesia if it does not 'behave' in accordance to their wish.
The West is not a Muslim country what do you expect?
According to the West everyone's a bully that doesn't side with them. Pure hypocrisy.
True.
They made movies about superheroes like in Marvel though actually they are everything but.
Takut anaknya dikawasan di bom oleh TNI Indonesia..🤣🤣🤣 contoh Indonesia mau beli su57,35 dn s400 Rusia,sibuk Amerika ngasih sangsi CATSA ke Indonesia..🥴🥴 GK boleh Indonesia maju,
Indonesia boleh, who is the US to force Indonesia? Indonesia wants trade and peace in this region and not to be used as a puppet of the US like the Philippines, Japan, South Korea 😂.
don't forget Singapore 😆
@@shah1668 The Han racist dont see Singapore as a puppet only non Han nations are puppets in their lexicon. They view Siingapore as their colony
Persaingan mancuria dan Han.
PKC dan nasionalis China.
Pada akhirnya yang kalah mayoritas mengungsi ke Indonesia. Jadilah warga negara Indonesia yang baik dan jangan membuat ulah
@@andisuharto9990 Setuju. Dimana bumi dipijak, disitu langit di junjung. Mari bersama2 membangun & memajukan Indonesia🙏🏻🙏🏻
im japanesen.
well,,, ouch. but at least we have balance between two bullys
┓(￣∇￣;)┏
Indonesia should not allow USA to spoil their good relationship with neighbour China.
@@Jaroslav777 nor with other prospective trading partners!
shut up we want to be neutral so we can get rich Not to get strong to fight. just get some leverage for if someone tries anything we join the other side.usa is FAAAR more aggressive than china but still richer so neutral
US the warmonger pressure everybody to side with the warmonger.
Indonesia's non-alignment policy makes it a neutral party between China snd the US, but it is increasingly drawn to a closer economic tie with China. It will be a shamefully futile attempt by Uncle Sam to pressure Indonesia to reject China.
C’est sûr
Not Indonesia's fault they refused to invest in Indonesia's industry sectors like China did. Indonesia do not want any US military base in its own lands.
We had enough with just US military bases in our neighbour countries and hope they do not multiply around us.
US just bring war not peace. so why we must closed to warmonger?
I feel sorry for Philippines
@@walteralcostan i think philippines is still neutral it just the president awe his money in the US
Not really since China is soo aggressive well we have no choice but to seek help to the U.S and we don't trust China
@@aldreneopenaphilippine never neutral, filipino love US than tgeir own country
Well we tried to be more independent but the CCP forced us to call US again 😑
Since their's a theory of the past presidents being influenced too much by US and start selling our own equipment and stuff that's why we are poorer than in the past and still a bit poor and the CPP is not helping
Indonesia has learned a lot about cooperation with the US where political struggles in the US have hampered cooperation with the US, one of which is the economic and equipment embargo, Indonesia prefers open cooperation without any political pressure.
L’ Indonésie 🇮🇩 doit rester loin de l’Amerique quand elle donne un dollar, il y a toujours un calcul politique
No one can pressure a big country.
USA had been pressuring Indonesia since the 50's ,60's , up to present day. 1965 - 1990, Indonesia cut diplomatic ties with China and aligned to USA. Even today, top Indonesian military generals, government officials are mostly USA-educated and anti-China sentiment among the locals remain strong due to political and racism despite China being the biggest trading partner to Indonesia.
@@bang4buck326
Every country leaders will usually act according to their own interests.
Today is not like yesterday and Indonesia interaction with a more powerful China will not be the same as before.
@@bang4buck326 back then china was small now 2nd largest gdp,,,,,times change
@@bang4buck326 back then china was small now 2nd largest gdp,,,,,times change
@@bang4buck326 back then china was small now 2nd largest gdp,,,,,times change
Indonesia is no puppets like Pinoys..😝🤣
Asia is always strong together❤ China Korea Japan Russia Turkiye Indonesia Pakistan Iran Taiwan Tayland
Indoensia : Terserah kalian mau bersaing yang penting kalau mau bicara bisnis harus win win...
Indonesia, where the dominant religion is Islam and support Palestine, why does US think they can just tell a sovereign country how to run their economy? The US will just create poverty and misery for Indonesia.
Indeed. We can see right now. 😂
Islam will not make it any better for you.
@@Rudy62 Says the bigot. What has Christianity done for the world besides slavery, racism, inequality, etc?
@@Rudy62 how so ??
@@lirikcover9279 nggk sih kami bisa makan dan belanja bekrja setiap hari
Just look how the us is helping Ukraine no thanks
DJANGAN MAU DI BODOHIN LAGI.... TETAP TEGAS, STAY STRONG NO MORE COLONIAL INTERFERENCE IN INDONESIA
AS menekan Indonesia untuk menolak Tiongkok: apa yang terjadi?
Indonesia bersama Malaysia dan Thailand mesti menandatangani janjian Strategic Partnership dengan dua Negara anti-Amerika iaitu Rusia dan China .untuk menjamin keselamatan negara masing masing.
tidak perlu pun ikut kata2 US.. tiada keuntungan pun..rupiah jatuh,hutang membengkak,investor lari.
lebih baik neutral...join brick. perdagangan dgn negara brick ikut cara brick,perdagangan dgn euro pakai dollar seperti biasa...
@@poisonvenom5695 netral tidak boleh bergabung aliansi manapun, mcm brics maupun g7
Indonesia mandiri industri nikel , pAbrik besi stenlis, kreta cepat, infrastruktur, pembangunan, industri Evi, bukan oleh Amerika eropa jepang.
Alana kereta cepat pun rugi mahu riak ape bro.
@@DaudJusoh-ix8st rugi hanya untuk Malaysia je...🇲🇾
@@DaudJusoh-ix8st
Kemajuan itu dibayar mahal.
Jika kerugian sedikit itu wajar.
Sejalan dengan waktu sedikit kerugian akan terbalik jadi menguntungkan.
Saat ini sedang direncanakan untuk kereta cepat ke 2....JAKARTA SURABAYA.
(Yang jelas pasarannyapun bukan menengah kebawah...
Tapi kelas menegah keatas...yg saat ini telah mencapai 100 juta orang).
Jika ada yg miskin...WAJAR😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁penduduk Indonesia saat ini mungkin telah melebihi 280 juta orang.
Iya, tp smuanya udah hampir habis dijual sejak jaman suharto 🤣🤣.
@@Joshua-tf6jvitulah jebakan hutang dilakukan imf ..kolusi jaga penguasa dgn uang , bentuk kuasa Marcos Marcos, gunakan fitnah busuk komunis akan sita harta, agama jadikan politik teroris, untuk amankan Amerika eropa, conto Afrika sekarang menjauh dan ikut one belt one road.
No to usa
Who do usa think they are telling what other countries do or not to do?
Are other countries under usa payroll?
Boss,father, etc
Corrected run by an 80-year-old man, he should have stayed in the old people's home sometimes you donot know what the hell he is talking about in front of his TV screen and sometimes you feel like his fake teeth will fall off when his smile.
this comment is great
Yeah... Use USB
@@oddraid7877 ufo
With Joko Widodo retreated into the background, the U.S. is betting its hope on Prabowo Subianto for Indonesia's change of heart. Lloyd Austin sent congratulation note to Prabowo in April 2024 and Antony Blinken flew to Jakarta to meet with him in June 2024. Contrary to past practices, Prabowo did not see the U.S. as an important ally but flew to Beijing to meet with Xi Jinping since he became President-elect of Indonesia. With the exception of Bongbong Marcos who was taken hostage over his father's corruption misdeeds, all other 9 members of ASEAN have strongly expressed their desires to stay neutral in U.S.-China rivalry; in effect, they all prefer trade and prosperity for the welfare of their own citizens over chaos, wars and destructions the U.S. is attempting to bring to Southeast Asia in its efforts to contain the rise of the Chinese nation. Good luck, U.S.A.!!!
The party that chose Prabowo was PSI, where PSI is Joko Widodo's party, which means that even though Prabowo becomes president, Prabowo is still under Joko Widodo's supervision
@@rosemarydwitasari4693😂😂 gk tau otaknya pak Prabowo loe,, mna ada PK Prabowo tunduk PD barat,, kecuali kerja sama yg baik seperti Prancis.. kemarin SJ PK Prabowo sdh terbang ke Tiongkok, turki, Prancis, Rusia negara yg di anggap mitra utama Indonesia..🇮🇩💪
Offering to buy their debts I'd bet. "You cain' teach an old dawg new tricks."; Indonesia won't listen either .
Getting desperate.
for military defense equipment, political dan economy. US always interferes. as if they understand what's best for us. no !!! we learn from experience when the US and Western Europe imposed an military embargo on indonesia. while on the other hand they practice double standars. amazing!!!
Unique fact, American President john kennedy, was a big admirer of Soekarno, they are true friends
Itu Presiden terbaik Amerika, yang lain brengsek. Itulah kenapa dia dibunuh.
but not CIA who help some attempt coup det and finaly in 1965 successfuly.
For Defense a little by a little Indonesia develop their own defense industry. Cooperation with western just to learn the defense technology.
It's true Prabowo past is related with US hegemony, but time has change and mindset also change. This time Prabowo win president election because of mindset change, after working closely with Jokowi as defense minister for 5 years. This is what make peoples choose him after 3 periods of loose in presidential election.
What is certain is that Indonesia has its own tactics 👍🏼🇮🇩 to rely between America and China.
Rely? tactics? No. We simply do not pick sides and not get trapped inbetween conflict.
We tolerate everyone who wants to trade. And that is certain.
Indonesia easily chooses China's support as it treats them as trading partners.
Love ASIA 🌏 Indonesia ❤
Very good analysis.
Common USA meddlesome behaviour!
Amerika Go Home!
Bagus.
Dia oleh balek kampong dan tidoh atau fikir betul betul
For God's sake, believe us, we are not a nation of cowards and we will not submit to any country
Turkiye Indonesia China Russia ❤
Interessting development. Will Indonesia join BRICS? Hard to see at this stage. But Econo mic interests will prevail in the end. Not military…….
tidak. pada KTT brics tahun lalu di Afrika Selatan, Indonesia menolak halus ajakan untuk masuk, kami lebih memilih OECD untuk menopang perekonomian kami. maksudku, brics sekarang hanyalah pelayan untuk kepentingan China dan Russia, india bahkan tidak terwakili jika kita mau lihat perkembangan yang ada.
@@bimantaraadityawarman1734bukan menolak..tapi menunggu waktu yang tepat..kamu tidak paham strategi
@@NetiHidayat-pi6cm ok, no hard feeling ya. berani taruhan? umpan nama sosmed aja kalau mau serius. percayalah, never.
The contribution of the Chinese in GDP cannot be understated
Amerika selalu menebar permusuhan dan mengajak negara lain ikut2an memusuhi musuhnya Amerika, sedangkan China lebih kepada pembangunan dan ekonomi serta tidak ikut campur urusan domestik negara2 lain
60% of world shipping 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Indonesia will be in top four economies by 2050! 12:34
The world think too big about Indonesia. We got too much of our own problem,that is why no countries successfullly persuade us to take sides.
Secretary of State Tony Blinken has made it clear that he only treats other countries as food.
Do you remember “the Jakarta Method “?
Indonesia tdk takut AS dkk dan jg China , Indonesia tdk boleh di atur2 negara asing mereka siapa sok atur2 Indonesia ini itu silahkan atur pejabat korup antek asing 👽 tapi kami rakyatnya tidak sudi Indonesia NKRI harga mati
Very comprehensive info channel 👍👍👍
GOOD JOURNALISM
Indonesians are closer to Chinese generic and cultural, mosteven have Chinese backgrounds
@@hphan7549 true
Indonesia terbuka untuk berteman dengan negara manapun kami menjunjung tinggi persaudaraan dan persahabatan. Kecuali Israel, NO ❌ 🇮🇱 ❌, free Palestine
WOW!
Your words, your insights about Indonesia like Indonesian. Are you Indonesian? WOW 👏👏👏
indonesia always US friend, i mean union of sovyet
Indonesia is mostly a Muslim nation they will not bow down to zionism
We Will not bow down to other muslims countries either.
@@user-jh5eu2dr3rtunggu saja di perang besar nanti kami akan membalas Zionisme dan barat 😊
Thanking you
Indonesia bekerja sama dengan China di bidang ekonomi,di satu sisi Indonesia juga tidak suka China mengganggu Laut Filipina dan lebih luas laut ASEAN ! Politik kami bebas aktif bisa bekerjasama dengan siapapun asal jangan mengganggu Kedaulatan
Kesalahan amerika adalah kami sebagai orang indonesia akan menceritakan sejarah kelam apa yang amerika lakukan di era krisis.
Because of information like this, people realize that the US government and the US corporations are one and the same. Corporate greed and profit margins triumphs over humanity's well-being.
Bahkan rakyat US menjadi korban pajak
I don't think the figure quoted for logistics cost in Indonesia at 11% is definitely too low! At this rate she would be the 2nd best in ASEAN after Singapore! Because of numerous inter-island requirements based on Cabotage policy, the rate is actually 24% of her GDP; followed by Philippines at 19% , the highest within ASEAN.
You cannot dictate other country in their decision. Let them choose what is good for them.
Mantap benar Indonesia sejajar dengan negara maju
Would be good if the vid covered the headline. Whats going on?
Bravo Indonesia
Of course, the US is helping Indonesia with defense sales, the US will always provide the weapons, but that country, (fill in the blank) will always provide the dead bodies.
Bung, Anda lupa atau sengaja tidak menyebutkan, Indonesia adalah Penyerap carbon terbesar di muka bumi.
Kami mempunyai lautan yang kuas, hutan hijau yang luas, mangrove atau hutan bakau terluas di muka bumi.
Kami bisa saja menebang hutan kami sperti Eropa untuk kepentingan nasional kami.
Kami paham sekali posisi strategis kami yang sangat berpengaruh bagi kelangsungan hidup makhluk di muka bumi.
Anda tahu penyumbang polusi terbesar di dunia seperti China, India, USA, jepang, seul. Euro, etc... Semua negara itu harus berterima kasih pada indonesia atas komitmen nya menjaga hutan hijau nya.. Jika tidak maka kita akan menderita bersama.
As an Indonesian myself who have been living for 40 years since the rule of the western-aligned President Soeharto to the eastern-aligned President Jokowi, I would prefer Indonesia as a Chinese ally in Southeast Asia.
Moreover, based on the latest statistics by Yushof Ishak Institute od Singapore, around 70% Indonesians nowadays prefer to align their country with China than the US.
High GDP 2024 but erasing the mid-class economic. What for?
Hi President Joko and President Prabowo ❤️🇮🇩🇨🇳🦾😇👋
halah ntar juga klo harga nya pas juga muter balik, blinken sowan ke MUI sama NU bawa dollar juga langsung varokah
US have Blackrock and Blackstone
wakanda have MUI and NU
same sh1t different c0lor
Indonesia's principle is simple. Working together with mutual profit, mutual understanding and mutual respect. As simple as that..
I can‘t see any foreign security concern for Indonesia.
Isn't Indonesia nominal gdp reach 1.4 triliyons USD?
yes his information of 1.1 trillion is wrong . Indonesia will reach 1,5 trillion by 2025
Indonesia needs to listen to China.🤖
Thanks for another informative video
Indonesia should stay neutral... Not with china nor the us
"its your enemy not mine"
we making friend
not enemy
There's good information, but you need to shorten the videos with summary that explains the bigger picture and what it means, fewer statistics that are hard to digest by listening, be very strict to avoid ANY repetition, eg Indonesia is so important because....., use more visual aid like charts, and let the viewers grasp why your information is important to them, in 5 minutes.
Indonesia is an independent country and we are striving now with EV
Give us benefit more than china, US
It's a complex, by the way Indonesia have mil exer with US under Garuda Shield.
i think indonesia always take a balanced foreign policy, they dont commit to one partner, anyone can be a partner as long as it's fair. they did the same in cold war era, balancing both USA and Soviet
As Indonesian in my views, China is favored more bcs they help us in more than USA nowadays.
Also USA political movement in their entertainment (LGBT, Extreme Feminism, Veganism etc.) doesn't land well with majorities of Indonesian. Indonesian is pretty homophobic and not receiving this culture easily. But their entertainment products forcing it so often that make us steer away from it and consuming South Korean, Chinese, Thai, and others. Either Movies, Games, Series, etc. While China doesn't meddle with Indonesia politics. While US offer a tons of transactions but they demand changing too much to their liking and forcing Indonesia to do that isn't pretty realistic to do and by the time is done, USA will benefit more and those transactions already fulfilled by China.
Also USA is known to meddling with politics that can cause civil war or riots, it happens to us around 80-90s. While China also have black history in Indonesia G30S and Riots in 1998, it's shown USA is one pouring gasoline to this incidents. But China today arrived just to trade not injecting anything extreme like in 80-90s. So while I aware more Chinese factory and company everywhere in Indonesia, Indonesian accept it easily as it also help their economy. Bcs of our controversial time today in politics and history with USA. No wonder Indonesia steer away from USA. Also Palestine vs Israel is condemned everywhere and Indonesia obviously take the Palestinian side bcs we also suffer the similar fate, religion solidarity and ofc who support wars? While it seems one sided here in Indonesia but it happens bcs USA seems one sided too. Not only Indonesia feeling this. So yeah this further steer away our politics from USA. While USA is the one strengthening military, it more impactful China strengthen economy since it help so many civilians in every job, wealth or positions they are in.
Last USA seems to struggle in economy and it known widely. Forced tipping culture, underpaid jobs, guns legality, housing problems, homeless, drugs, weird problems coming from nowhere, extremist activism/movements, etc. It's intimidating to us Indonesian to follow USA demand not thinking these issues will carried to Indonesia slowly. Hell even some of them already here but still shy away from public and we can proudly says we did handle these better than USA.
Indonesia is neutral country and still is. So yeah, if USA don't demand too much and try to bend politics in Indonesia this won't happen. And China influence is shown through today modern architecture, facility, electronics, etc. that way affordable and almost as good as USA. Even USA/EU content creators that visit Bali, Jakarta, Tangerang, Bekasi, Bandung, Surabaya, etc. seems to see infrastructure in Indonesia is no joke and some even better than their own country.
"Rowing between two island" is the famous words from our first vice president. It clearly show where indonesia stand in the global community. From the very beginning of our existence as a sovereign republic we stand on neutrality and reject any sort of rivalry towards other nation. We welcome everyone and we accept every country participation in our growth but don't expect us to bow down. Eventhough china is indeed our biggest investor as for today but when they disrespect our sovereignty by coming to our territory illegally, we fight and we fought hard. We will fight everyone who blatantly disregard our sovereignty as a nation eventhough we are fully aware that we might not able to win but we will fight. And we don't in any ways ever be in a military alliance with any nation due to our hundreds friends zero enemy and that includes even israel, a country many thought we hate but we still dealing and do some business with them eventhough there isn't any formal diplomatic relations between us.
semenjak dibentuknya AUKUS, kami tau persis kenapa aliansi itu dibentuk, mereka kira kita bodoh ... bisa saja di masa depan indonesia keluar dari zona negara non blok dan memihak ke blok timur.
PK Prabowo lbih tau tentang yg baik untuk Indonesia,mna mau dia diatur Amerika.. kemarin sj sdh terbang ke Rusia bertemu saudara nya pk putin..😂😂 kata pk Prabowo,kk klo ada yg ganggu Indonesia pinjamin su57,s400,s500,bomber,kpl selam nuklir, nuklir jelajah,ya kk..
Putin; tenang dik, pasti KK kasih semua nya, ingat kan pasukan inggris dn Belanda semua kpl perang dn tank tempur nya JD abu di irian Barat dlu..kk akan sll bntu Indonesia.😀😀🇮🇩💪🇷🇺
they both the same china & the us, indonesia should stands on its own, no allies no enemies
no friends and no enemies only Interesting . quote " H.kissinger"
What interesting is that US do pressure to any countries while CN not do that. US keep said CN is this and CN is that to other countries while CN not said anything bad about US to other countries.
It is just feel like US act like debt collector while CN act like merchant.
Kesalahan terbesar pemimpin amerika adalah jika berfikir doktrin mereka masih berpengaruh di Indonesia, pemimpin serta rakyat kita mayoritas tahu apa yg dilakukan Amerika dulu pada Indonesia. Sory kami tidak mau masuk jurang yang sama, jika harus berteman dengan amerika utk urusan yang sama yakni ekonomi.
Why didn't Indonesia request US to build her high speed rail ?
Di asia ada ngapain ke barat
Amerika sendiri saja gk punya ngapain minta 😅
Kereta US banyak tikusnya
you mean the high speed train? US doesn't even have one, plus if you take a nice look on US subway train from NYC, you'll know it has so many rats and annoying passenger.
Why the hell we do that. When CHINA is ready to help
2 sides are WAY too comfortable talking about their radical ideals and not getting punched
US is a liability going forward !
You notice these investments by China in various BRI and other countries can be shown with actual projects on the ground, whereas when it comes to listing U.S. investment projects, it's always "the U.S. has pledged $xxx for infrastructure projects" but there are no actual projects to show. The U.S. is all talk and no walk, because it's bankrupt from financing too many wars and regime coups to help keep their worldly hegemony, rather than realize there are no longer any kings and it's time to get their own country in order!
in the end of the day indonesia still a non-aligned country, we will always choose our own interests than aligned with either the west or east. in fact these days we use the us for military training and technology and china for economy and infrastructure
I still doubt whether relations between Indonesia and China are still good? considering that in Indonesia itself anti-Chinese sentiment still exists today (not sure how many percent)
I think just likes in the past , In era hindus and Buddha Indonesia is always maintain balancing those outside culture, politics and religion who influences Indonesia at that time likes hindus and Buddha is competeting
Indonesia : no political blocks! PLAY BOTH SIDES!