I took the MSF Basic RiderCourse again 5 years later
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
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It wasn't easy. I took the MSF Basic RiderCourse again 5 years later. I want to test ride more bikes, widen and sharpen my riding skills, and since it's been so long since I've practiced my skills, before starting on the advanced and dirt courses, I wanted a refresher by starting again with the basics. Here is what I learned. Spoiler alert: it was surprisingly challenging, and a much needed refresher. Motorcycle companies, here I come! Ready to review your bikes and fill the void of short girl's view on the motorcycles in the market!
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I was the sales mgr. at a Harley-Davidson dealership and I took the class every Spring with my new customers and I always learned something new.
Nice. 👏
Anyone willing to admit they don’t know everything is the kind of person that can grow... I’m hoping you are brave enough for a road trip this year to meet some of the other amazing women you’ve met and gain even more confidence.
I think you're not alone in that once people pass the MSF course, they don't practice, or that the things they were able to do on the MSF bike, they aren't on their own bike. I'm glad you're sharing your journey with us and that you're honest with where you need work. Shoot! I know I still do. Lol!
I'm going to ask it again - how can anyone put a thumbs down to this video or any of Doodle's videos? They are entertaining and, more importantly for me, informative. Great job, Doodle. Thank you.
I agree 💯%%.
Trolls are everywhere.
What do you think - can I complete all these courses this year, all while working part time at my office job, and already almost out of my PTO only 3 months into the year, AND build relationships with motorcycle companies to make videos that'll be a good resource for you?
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Absolutely you can providing you have the time to take the courses.
Your determination and willingness to learn is what gives me the faith that you can accomplish your goals. 👍😎
You should really take a motorcycle racing school. It will change everything for you as it did for me. You don't need to want to become a racer to reap huge benefits from it. I rode for my whole life and I learned more in 1 day of motorcycle racing school than I did in 15 years of previous riding. I cannot emphasize this enough. Most I've talked to think I'm crazy for suggesting it. However any friends I've convinced to do said after the fact I was 100% correct. You need to do it!
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Doodle, you got this.
I'm an MSF instructor and I'm glad you took the course a lot of people don't think they will learn anything and here in CT its mandatory so make sure you come and see us it would be cool to help your channel.
For me, fear of dropping my bike came from the fact that I still had in my mind how much I paid for it and not because I lacked the skills. There is a real fear of messing things up that keeps us from pushing through limits. I was able to overcome this by getting a bike that I was confident of it's crash protection and just working through the drills and once I got comfortable, I was able to transfer those skills to my main bike.
How refreshing to see a very honest youtuber confess to their fears, failings, and limitations. Very well done young lady. I have just subscribed to your channel to get the real scoop.
When I took the course the person that impressed me the most was the girl about your size that dropped the bike at least 5 times. You could tell she was very distraught over it. But every single time she got right back on the bike. During the final test she did not drop it and barely passed but barely counts. There were 3 of us that made no errors yet she was the one that impressed me the most because she never quit. You remind of that girl. The fact that you are so open and honest and share your mistakes and struggles for the benefit of others is the reason I'm subscribed.
I hope you know this comment means the world to me ❤️ proud of that girl too I’ve never met and thank you for appreciating the vulnerability that I am always nervous to do
I am happy to hear she was permitted to continue. In many locations two or three drops results in not being permitted to complete the class. The reason for this is insurance, liability and avoiding slowing down the class too much for others.
What most people fail to think about is that a Honda Rebel for a very small woman that doesn't do physical work is like a Honda Goldwing to a large physical fit guy. Imagine doing a BRC on a Goldwing.
really glad I took the MSF course. Helped me out a lot.
I was a MSF Rider Coach for 10 years. We had a student who would sign up for the first available basic course every year just to prepare for the riding season. As an instructor, I felt teaching the class kept my skills sharp. Some of the worst students were the 'experienced' riders. The course is a starting point on your career of riding.
Doodle, you're so much further along mentally with the right "attitude and mindset" than most riders will ever be. Anyone can point a bike down the road and twist the throttle. Slow speed skills take time and lots of continuous practice. Doing a U-turn on a sport bike is even more challenging. They don't have the low end torque that V twins do. Throttle control is more challenging and the handle bars are shorter so input has to be more controlled. Don't sweat what other people say. Take all the classes you can and keep practicing until you're happy with your skills. My wife and I bought a little Honda Rebel 250 just for practicing slow speed skills. If I fall over on that I could care less (and I have, sometimes hard to stop laughing when I do). Those skills do translate to the sport bike. Keep doing what you're doing, you're an inspiration to many of us.
Yes! learning to manoeuvre whilst traveling slowly is a big skill..often overlooked by new riders.
Doodle, I love your channel! Woman rider here and I really appreciate the class you show, the topics you talk about and your “realness! I’m looking forward to seeing what you do next!
Every time I jump on my bike I learn something new, you never stop, that’s why motorbiking is so much fun! 😎👍🏽🏍
I am 75. Been boating since was 4, sailing since 14. Trained for the olympics in sailing, raced everything big and small, won pretty much everything I raced. ie, I am a very experienced, advanced sailor. One of my favorite things has always been to buy any absolute beginners boating book I come across. Never, and I mean never have I failed to learn something I did not know already! Victor Herbert wrote in his book Dune ¨beginnings are such precious things.¨I have always found that to be true, each time.
New rider here Gonna be taking a msf course here in Colorado, appreciate the perspective! Thanks
I’m a new rider in CO also taking MSF in a month
Thank you for putting yourself out there and being so open about your challenges and failures. Thank you also for bringing up the issue of training. We all need it, but few give it a second thought. Since I took the MSF course and got my motorcycle endorsement a year and a half ago, I made the commitment to take at least one training a year, and I treat every ride as a practice session. So far, I have done the experienced rider MSF training and it was well worth it. Please continue doing it, sharing it and hammering the idea and the importance of improving one's skills.
Doodle, I’m a firm believer in refreshing from the beginning. I studied Martial Arts for almost 25 years. Quite frequently I went back and took classes from the beginning. I did the same thing with my dog and obedience classes. We both refreshed the fundamentals. I believe you’ll do very well at all the courses you are going to take.
Doodle, I really appreciate your channel. I started riding 8 years ago at age 52, just before you. Like you, I started with no history with motorcycles, and for years I viewed bikes as death traps, mainly because I judged motorcyclist by the most irresponsible riders I saw on the road. You know the ones...the guys cutting in and out of traffic, they guys with obnoxiously loud motorcycles, the guys ripping down the interstate at 110 mph doing wheelies. Your site and your videos represent the majority of riders, or those that want to be riders, riders like me. Your pursuit of education is admirable, as I have chosen a similar path. You have chosen to become educated in slow speed maneuvers, yet I have chosen to educate myself through CZcams videos, reading, and doing track days. I do 2-3 local track days a year and go to the California Superbike school for one weekend every year. I find classes to be great education as they push hard for you to ride within your skills, educated you on the physics and design elements built into your bike, and to not ride based on ego. Ego riders are the worst amongst us. Keep up with the great content! Your stories resonate with my experiences.
I took the MSF course after riding for 20 years, and it was so much fun and you do learn new things and relearn some things that you forget! You are so right in that your riding education should never stop. I am in my 43rd year of riding, and I never think I know all there is about riding. Great video as always!
43 YEARS!!!!! #OG
@@DoodleOnAMotorcycle Seems much shorter than that. I will probably regret saying this, but in all those years of riding, no accidents and never even dropped a bike in a parking lot. I am blessed!
I think your humble approach to life and motorcycles is really comforting
I've taken the msf course 4 times. first to learn how to ride, second to get on base riding privileges, third cause I hadn't ridden in years and wanted a refresher, and fourth with my ex-girlfriend for her to learn how to ride properly after I taught her how to ride improperly, ;-). And I was planning the advanced course before covid hit and will be looking for that again soon. And I too wish it was mandatory for a license, cause it really is a life saver.
I've got to take another course to keep current for riding on base. Its going to be more fun this time on a street legal dirt bike. I've got a CRF450L with an ECU and full FMF exhuast.
Training never stops! I took a beginner course again when I decided to ride again after a 20+ year break. I learned a lot. I was terrified of corners so after a couple of thousand miles (per their requirement) I took the Total Control Intermediate Rider Course, Wow! it helped me improve on corners tremendously. Thanks for your efforts and your channel.
Taking my class this weekend, thanks for this video.
Looking forward to see when you test diffrent bikes. I think thats your best videos. Keep up the good work👍👏
I couldn’t imagine NOT taking the MSF class. I took my back in September, first time on a motorcycle, I did well for my first time according to my peers and instructors the first two days, but failed the final exam.
A week or two later, I got my permit at the BMV and bought my first motorcycle. I rode in the neighborhood for a few weeks then to a few destinations that I was familiar and comfortable riding to. Then I went to a few different parking lots to practice slow speed riding. Now I am riding to and fro different places in traffic (which scared me for a while). Still practicing when I can and I am planning to retake the MSF in May or June! I plan to take some more classes after I hopefully pass my 2nd attempt!
Encouraging video to see that even experienced riders struggle sometimes but it comes down to practice!
All skills are perishable over time. It doesn't matter what the sport or discipline is. I used to fly airplanes. The last time I flew was in 2005, when, after some 15 years, I took the controls from my friend (the pilot) and realized immediately that I need to begin anew with the full license course. At 64, I have done/taught many skills in many different fields (I am an educator since the 1980s, now teach the military,) but some of those skills are now a memory that I would need to refresh - especially those skills that can save my life, or the lives of others. I commend you for valuing education, and for presenting your experiences with honesty, and humility.
You are so brave and humble ! Thank you for sharing
Cool video, good job! We can never learn enough , really enjoyed this and thanks for sharing !
You're such a cool person and it's really a pleasure to watch your videos because of your honesty and sunny disposition Ride safe and goodbye for now
Nice, I never planned to take the beginners course again. But then a couple of my friends wanted to start riding again after a few years of not riding and I went with them. Just for the fun, but I learned more during that course than I had ever expected. Since then we try to do some sort of course every other year. It's fun and you always learn something new. Your video's are great to watch btw. Keep up the good works!
I've taken BRC classes 6 times in the last 3 yrs. Also a Total Control class. Training is fun!!
Because I just bought a bigger bike, I need to really practice a lot this year.
Sweet!!
Thanks for documenting your experience, Doodle. I’ve been riding 2 years, and I took the MSF BRC2 last year and this year. I learned a lot by just making it a goal to get perfect score this year, by preparing for it the month before. I wanted to crush the U-turn box, which I did! So essentially setting up a course gave me motivation to practice.
This might be my favorite video of yours so far. I rode various bikes, for about 100k miles, for 10 years. I took 11 years off and then got a motorcycle again last year. I want to take a course to learn to utilize my bike offroad (it is a popular large ADV bike), but I think this is the push I needed to find a basics class and do that first. Those super tight u-turns also freak me out a bit. So, thank you! I love how honest you are in your videos, it is what keeps me coming back.
I acommpanied my wife to her motorcycle safety course just to cheer her on. (I had been riding for 25 plus years at the time.) I was stunned at how awesome it was and how much I learned. So much so, that a couple of years later I took it myself. I can honestly say that it reminded me and sort of highlighted just how sloppy my riding had become over the years. The fundemental skills taught there are definitely awesome.
That’s awesome!!! It’s surprising isn’t it?
I've been riding 13 years. I started when I was 40. Took the MSF BRC the first year and was surprised how few people take a course.
My daughter and her fiance said they were interested in riding and I told them I'd pay for their class and take it with them.
I agree with you, just like practicing a couple times a month in a parking lot, taking the BRC again will reinforce and remind the good habits. Keep it up.
Revisiting the basics and self-improvement is never a bad investment. 👍😎
Congratulations! Keep going and be safe
Good for you for doing this, Mad respect ✊!!
Great idea! To push the limits for your life and the channel! We will stay tuned!
Your approach is very wise, ton of respect 👍
Relearning the basics is always a great thing to do. Nice video
You have developed and unique and very pleasant style with the latest videos. I've watched for several years, but now actually feel I'm getting to know you. A good thing with your audience. Love the gaiter with the mustache, btw.
Love your authenticity ❤️. Excited to follow along as you chase your future moto endeavors.
Great idea... very proud of you.... a few years ago, my then 19 year old daughter wanted to learn to ride motorcycles. I signed us both up for the msf course. It was an awesome experience and a great way to bond with my girl... I had been riding for 30 years and still picked up some good lessons from the class and it helped to kill some of my bad habits...and like I said, being an active part of my daughter's learning experience.....cant beat it!!!!
Little brown friend.
Love it.
It's always good to get training.
I think about ways to improve my riding skills and challenge myself every time I ride.
Love your channel.
Thank you so much for your transparency. It is greatly appreciated and encouraging.
Love it! Always keeping it real!
You have the right attitude keeping your skills sharp , thinking I should have some training as not had any for nearly 40 years now. In the UK roads can be quite narrow so maybe I u-turn more often than American bikers have to .
I think your riding skills are great but as you are a perfectionist you make the mindset to always improve which is great .
Cool video. Good content. I have been a rider for over three decades and would not be ashamed of taking a beginner class again. I practice what I preach and I preach practice and study. For over thirty years I consciously find new skills to master and old skills to practice. In my part of the country the serious riding season is only about six months which can be extended a few more if you want to push some of the extremes, so getting rusty on some skills is likely and I approach every new year with cation.
I wish you luck with this channel. I will subscribe because I enjoyed the content I saw here.
Thanks
Good job being pro-active in your MC education. I'm an MSF instructor in Wyoming and we have people that come take the course every spring just to knock the winter rust off of their skills. Keep up the good work!
Revision of the basic skills is always a benefit for anybody.
Good on you for going back and seeing if you have kept the good habits, and if you need to pull up on any bad habits you have picked up over the years.
Glad you shared this with us. I have the same fear in classes. But we learn from training. Keep inspiring us with your vlogs.
This was a great video. I watch Jerry Palladino (Ride Like a Pro) and Robert Simmons (Robert Simmons - Paying It Forward) all the time. Their motor skills have helped me tremendously on my 2019 Harley Davidson Heritage Softail. Love watching your videos, too. Keep up the great work!
I understand your fears completely. I have a CB500X and coming to a stop one day I put my foot too close to the edge of the road where it was falling off and nearly dropped my bike. That really spooked me and I stopped riding for the rest of the season. The next year I ended up getting a CRF250L just to have something lighter to toss around and practice. It restored my confidence bunches but I still need to practice my low speed skills more often. I still find the bigger bike a little more intimidating than the CRF. I think taking the MSF class again is a brilliant idea and more of us should follow your lead. Thanks for the honesty.
Doodle you are awesome, keep up the good work, for me it's definitely the u turns that I need to work on especially the right turn for me. I'd like to take the msf course again with my bike.
good on you for wanting to expand your knowledge base. the more skill you have as a rider, the more fun you'll have and you'll be safer as well. as always, ride your own ride and let the other say/do what they want. good luck with leaning your bike and getting comfortable with it!
oh yeah! p.s. lol. for me, slow speed maneuvering has always felt different. when making tight turns, i feel like i have to use the handlebars more than just leaning the bike with my weight shifting. maybe this will help, but feel like you're sitting up a little straighter when you do a u-turn and when you turn the bars, feel like they are beneath you instead of in front of you. that helped me a lot and now I have no problem making tight turns.
I had been a rider for over 20 yrs. and I had to take the course again to get a base sticker and at first I was offended when they said that but I talked to my next door neighbor who had been riding for 30 yrs and rode everyday and even made multi cross country trips each yr. He surprised me by saying every few yrs he took a beginners course to help keep his skills sharp and remind him of bad habits that he had picked up. It was great advice.
Great job Doodle! Excellent work on the audio, too.
What a great idea taking the course again. Personally I make a habit of going to a open driving lot and practice the basics every few weeks at a maximum to keep it up. I do most importantly a few emergency braking practices (almost every spring I end up locking up or nearly locking up the rear on the first go), a few rolling out quick from a stop (incase rear end coming), u-turns, and u-turns from a stop. If you don't practice it regularly you won't execute it properly when needed. Also never forget any information is at your fingertips with your phone. You could have google or youtubed how to pick your bike up. :)
I have no doubt that you'll reach your goal and then some ^^ you clearly have the drive and passion for motorcycles and strive to better yourself each time, that is highly commendable and I'm certain the motorcycle companies you choose to approach will recognize that in a heartbeat!
Good for you! I think what matters in moto riding is your level of confidence and how comfortable you are with riding. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT OTHERS THINK! Train and practice the skills over and over to build confidence. Be Safe.
Hi Doodle, your audio is perfect! performing U-turns requires good coordination and skill to perform successfully, and by highlighting that after 5 years you need a refresher, will be a comfort to many who lack the skill. You need to be confident, as the fear of dropping your bike can be a mental barrier It's practice makes perfect! A great video and a great result!
Have had my License since 1976 - I have ridden all my life, dirt and road. I have these lapses of not riding for years at a time ( Life ). I think anything that helps you evolve as a rider is a big plus. Challenging yourself in life is always a good thing - Kudos to you - I'm a new subscriber and appreciate your honesty :)
It’s great to see how even if you have been riding for five years there’s no reason not to hop back to basics (and try to overcome some fears). Nice! Love hearing and seeing these stories.
It’s been less than a year since I have passed my MSF Beginner’s and am returning for the MSF Skills Practice Course to warm up for the riding season.
Good on you for recognizing your weakness and going back to the basics to overcome. Riders definitely need to do this more. Keep it up girl.
Brown is Beautiful. I attended my first MSF in 94, I should take one just to see what I have forgotten. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome mate, I am a firm believer of getting back to basics every now and again... never stop learning🤘🤘🤘
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I have actually been thinking about taking the basic course again too. The first time I took it I had literally never been on the front of a motorcycle. I had only ridden on the back of my dad's back in high school. So I was VERY shaky and unsure of myself in the class. I actually didn't pass the riding portion the first time but I was so close that the instructor gave me one more chance at it after everyone was finished. I'm glad you are encouraging experienced riders to take the course again. Slow speed skills are integral to being a safe rider.
This is one of the best videos I have seen you do. I have been riding for 40 years I have taken the MSF class 5 times or more it gets tougher each time I take it
It is very difficult for a so called experienced ride to admit their short comings
Keep riding and be safe
Damn I missed the cool Neck Gaiter Order. I am planning to do MSF Course again since last I took it was 10 years ago. lol I just started riding again. Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work!!
So wise, more people should do this. Thank you for the inspiration.
I remember doing the figure 8's and U-turns for the first time in my life. I had been riding MX for several years, but thought I'd take the basic course instead of just testing so I could ride legally finally on pavement. I was so freaking tense on the turns that I actually began to cramp up in my shoulders. It was maddening at first. Something my brain said should be so easy, and here I was on a little TU250 almost flunking basic turns. Geesh :)
I ride hard enduro type stuff and I thought the class was painfully easy. I spend lots of time going slow over rock gardens and logs and doing full locked turns and using balance for my type riding. I suck at jumping though.
That mental aspect is so much!!
I also finished and passed my basic course last year and maybe I will try to retake it or go straight to advanced course, but watching DDFMs videos also helped me about awareness when riding my motorcycle.
Way to go Doodle. It's always good to practice, especially with a trainer who can advise you. Looking forward to the other courses.
You never stop learning 😊and more/refresher training is never a bad idea.
Slow riding is one of the most difficult things to do and least practiced - my slow skills suck! Practice makes perfect though!
keep up with the great work!
Great content Doodle !
Great video. I retook the MSF course again last year (unfortunately there are no intermediate or advanced classes in my area). I'm thinking about taking the course again this year because of how much I learned last year.
Good for you starting from scratch. 👊🏻
Outstanding.
Great idea! Of course, it is about 300 degrees in South Florida now, so hard pass on this right at the moment. I did take a Ride Like a Pro course a while ago, for an articleI wrote (I'll look for link) and it was amazing. Top takeaway: "You Will go exactly where you look" & "Turn your head more dammit!"
The key for those courses, IMO, is the instructors. A good one who actually wants you to leave as a better rider is critical.
You are so spot on. I also am signed up for a basic course. I have been away for a while and also have spent a lot more time on three wheels (Ural sidecar rig) than two wheels. Want to strengthen my fundamentals. Anyone who has ever played a sport knows the fundamentals are the most important thing and you CANNOT overtrain or overpractice the fundamentals.
I didn’t the MSF earlier this year, and I’ve been riding for a couple of weeks on my new bike, but taking the course again seems like a great idea! Thanks for sharing
A wise man once said "Shut Up and Practice". Ggood for you Doodle, I plan on taking the Intermediate Riding Course this year, took the MSF in september and want to continue to improve!
There is never anything wrong with retaking a class and refreshing on the basics. The basic course emphasizes clutch control and slow speed maneuvering, which is where a lot of riders get into trouble. Great video.
Great video Doodle. Every new riding season I go out and set up a cone course to get "back in the saddle". I take every motorcycle I own through it. You'll be surprised how rusty you can get just over a few month's of not riding. What is funny (to me) is that I have a harder time with my bobber than I do with my land barge bagger.
Your future plans for the channel sound great.
Nice video Doodle! I find myself practicing U-turns almost every time I ride. I like taking photos of my rides and will make u turns to go back and get a shot that I may have passed. Getting my big Indian reversed on some of these Carolina roads is a challenge. But with practice, I’ve gotten much better.
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I respect your desire to work on consistently working on improving your skill sets. You will continue to be safer. Slow speed skills are essential. Bike riding is like Akido white belts practice is beneficial for upper belts also. Your heading in right direction. Stay safe
I've been riding motorcycles for about 60 years and have documented over 300,000 miles, and I didn't start documenting the mileage till about 30 years ago. I made it a practice to take the advanced rider course every 2-3 years, its a nice refresher and you almost always learn something new. You apparently have taken the basic rider course multiple times, in my experience you don't really learn to be a better rider unless you challenge yourself. Go ahead and learn something new by taking the experienced rider course, it will make you a better rider.
I think it is awesome that you show all sides of your journey. Too many people put on a front. I just hit 1 year riding & it’s not always pretty but loving every minute of it.
I replaced my 93 Electra Glide with a 17 Kawasaki Voyager. I've owned the HD since new but realised even after so many years I needed help adapting to the Voyager. Bought Ride Like a Pro and it helped immensely. Now the Voyager has 28K and my slow skills are much better but not like a Pro yet. U turned are the hardest as you need faith in the bike and yourself. That is counter intuitive. Keep practicing and your fear will slowly subside. Good luck
Well done, I am 58 and riding for 2 years, I have some riding experience in my twentys but I have some fears too, what you did is the right way to do. I am planing to take my class one more time in the short time and then to take more advantage classes too. Thank and God bless you.
Congratulations on passing,in the UK we have to do something similar as part of our test,riding around/though cones making numbers 8s,it may have changed as I did it donkeys years ago but having broke my foot when I dropped my tracer 900 a couple of years ago when trying to turn right it certainly messed with my confidence & I could have benefitted with re doing training,its interesting you mention youre doing it with a bigger sized engine this time round as its certainly harder ,I did my training on a 125,huge diffrence,anyway good luck with the rest of it & look forward to see whats next
Dirt bike course sounds interesting and something I would take. I'm looking forward to your video on it.
Well done, Doodle. This’ll be my 12th year as a licensed rider, and I plan to take the BRC again as a refresher as well.
Nice!! We took the MSF Class at the same location in Alpharetta, GA last year - Nov 2020!! We live in John's Creek, GA.
This is great!