S-125 Neva / Pechora (SA-3 Goa) | The first and only stealth combat jet killer
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- We are investigating the S-125 and its variants, the first Soviet-made low to medium-altitude air defence missile system. #s125 #sa3 #missile #airdefence
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Why did the U.S.S.R. develop a low to medium-altitude air defence missile system like the S-125 Neva?
What are the modernized and self-propelled variants of the SA-3?
How could a Serbian S-125 shoot down a U.S. F-117 Nighthawk stealth attack aircraft?
Is the combat career of the SA-3 really successful?
00:00 Introduction
01:16 Programme history
02:33 V-600 - 5V24
03:44 Specifications (V-600)
04:23 Other missiles (V-601 - 5V27 / V-601D / 5V27DE)
06:03 (P-15 - Flat Face / PRV-11 - Side Net / SNR-125 - Low Blow)
07:08 M-1 Volna (SA-N-1 Goa)
07:48 Modernized variants (S-125-2TM Pechora-2TM / S-125-2D Pechora-2D / S-125M - 5V27D-M2)
09:14 Mobil S-125 variants (S-125 Pechora-2M / North Korean KrAZ-255B 6x6 truck-mounted S-125 / Newa SC / Cuban T-55-mounted S-125)
11:08 Combat experiences (Arab-Israeli Wars / Vietnam War / Shooting down RF-5A of Turkish Air Force in 1976 / Iran-Iraq War / South African Border War / 1991 Gulf War / 1999 Kosovo War - Shooting down of F-117 Nighthawk / Syrian Civil War / Russian Invasion of Ukraine)
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It is always nice to cooperate with you. You're using my drone clips better than I am, I'm getting a little jealous.
And big respect for trying to pronounce "Satunnaista sotilashistoriaa" 🙂
Please add English captions. Your mic audio has always been a bit hard to understand.
BTW if you want to experience operating this missile system yourself, along with the S-75, S-125, S-200, SA-4, SA-8 and Shilka, there's an amazing free game called SAM Sim made by a hungarian former operator; it's really great. I have a lot of hours on the S-75, it's lots of fun.
I have it, but just a heads up - be ready to do a LOT of reading :D
It reminded me on some DCS modules and university days where I had to go through the night over the book.
According to Soviet doctrine, the mission of air defense is to protect a certain ground asset from airstrikes. If after the airstrike that asset was intact or could be repaired, that was mission accomplished. Shooting down an enemy aircraft is not a mission priority, according to the same doctrine. It is more than a welcome bonus, but not required... It is enough to force the enemy to abandon the attack or into a mistake and to miss the target.
Imagine this: you are the pilot and approaching the target. You are lining up for bomb drop and suddenly - missile warning from your RWR. What are you going to do? Keep up the attack as if nothing happened and risk being shot down or start evading and most likely miss the target? Choices, choices...
So, estimating how effective this or any other system is based on number of planes shot down is kind of off the point. If you keep in mind that Serbian ground forces were largely intact after the war was over, one might say that the Serbian air defense as well as the army in general did a good job...
Excellent point made! Plus another thing to consider: how much assets does the attacker need to allocate to supress the air defense? Serbians may have launched 188 SAMs for 3 kills but the US launched over 700 HARMs yet most of the Serbian AD survived. Also its no accident they had to use 103 Tomahawks for 8 targets in Syria!
Since when did Serbian doctrine turn into Soviet doctrine? Yugoslavia and USSR had politically split not longer after WW2, so Soviet cold-war thinking wasn't directly embraced by or pushed on Yugoslavia.
@@poppinc8145 Politics and military doctrine are not strictly related! They used the same systems, so they must have been trained by soviets according to soviet military doctrine.
Loved the top gun: maverick reference 😂
Damn this channel gives off a truly independent from politics, neutral and hard facts only vibe. Excellent work, keep it up!!!
Vietnam has the S-125VT - a localized version of the 2TM variant from Belarus - researched by Viettel, a state/military corporation specializing in telecommunications and defense industry.
I call it the "localized version of the 2TM variant" because they are essentially 2TM but upgraded with components and software made and programmed by Viettel, instead of Belarus. The first battalion was delivered this month :3
Is Vietnam still considering buying Akash NG SAM systems?
No, it's likely that we will develop our own medium range air defense system base on the experience from upgrading the s125
@@thiennhan5134it is analog and simi radar homing. It is 60 years old tech bro. It would be extremely hard to do any upgrade to an analog system. vulnerable to modern jamming pod, obsolete already.
@@thiennhan5134 Has Vietnam considered buying T129 Atak helicopters?
In 1999, we shot down several NATO planes and damaged a lot of them, not to mention drones. s125 neva turned out to be quite an efficient system, of course with some modifications... the problem is that NATO doesn't want to admit its losses... but that's politics... greetings from Serbia 🇷🇸
Serbs and their myths.
@@BojanBojovic Its literally in the Kumanovo agreement.
We are not to disclose US and NATO loses.
You dont demand that if havent lost anything.
@@VojislavMoranic There are losses in every war, but this does not mean that every Serbian myth is true.
To begin with locators, the name of the campaign, the victory in the end, all myths.
@@VojislavMoranicwhat do you mean by that?
@@BojanBojovic We do not dabble in myths we unlike you have facts and a very professional military core.
Now go serve a german or hungarian some drinks be useful.
Excellent video. And nice touch to Top Gun.
there are 2 admitted losses of F117s in Serbia. One crashed there, the other managed to return to base but was a write-off.
Both were destroyed by the S125
Informative ,thrilled watching 👀 video about S-125 guided missiles air defense systems designed by the USSR... video explained all characteristics of that air defense system in low altitudes and several upgraded versions in several countries around the world ...thank you ( weapon detective) channel for sharing this remarkable video about S-125 air defense system....
Well, quite an interesting video. Thank you
Wonderful video..
One thing should be understood: countries will only admit aircraft losses if those cant be denied! 1 RF5 lost during peace cannot be denied. Losses during war will be minimized... 10 aircaft hit will be 4 lost ,if 6 can be repaired even if at higher cost than buying a new plane! In South Africa all F1 losses could be denied, because the planes were flown by mercs from remote bases, so no army records to account for the pilots.
Thank u ❤
A very informative video!
It was actually a Hungarian in Serbia who shot down the F-117. His name is Soltan Dani. Never forget
First of all he was part of the team which downed the F-117 and also: what is this supposed to mean "He is Hungarian, never forget that"?? The man was born in Serbia(Yugoslavia), grew up in Serbia, and was a member of the Serbian armed forces!
Never meddle with the powder bin Balkan. They still will kill each other for bragging rights alone if "necessary".
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I love this channel so much, I'd be interested in seeing a video of the Myasishchev M-4.
I worked as the Volna officer on INS Ranvijay and INS Ranjit, the Kashin class destroyers of the Indian Navy. 1996-97. Indian Air Force got the Pechoras modified by Poland in 2001 and I too took up the case for digitisation but was not encouraged to take it up for political reasons
second F-117 hit was confirmed recently on " The Drive" site in interview with pilot .that aircraft was not downed although but returned damaged .. it is no luck but clever use of manual guidance on three axis and benefits of low frequency .. .i presume that WWI SN-3 Lichtenstein radar would easily pick up stealth because of its wavelength
To be correct 2 F117 got hit but one went down during the war, third got damaged at landing. F117 pilot on podcast mentioned second event that corresponded by SAM battery war log. "One went down and 2 came home in a box".
Have you made a video on the Soviet 130mm M 46 towed howitzer?
The Serbs shot down way more than it is mentioned in this video...
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There's a modernised version of the SA-3 Goa in production called the SA-26.
Hi, if possible and whenever convenient, please make a video on the Russo-Indian T-90S Bhishma.
nice to hear it shot down
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Lethal weapon!
Great work!!! Although regarding NATO-Serbia war - Serbia is small in territory, and damaged planes can easily glide away from its territory. Some may crash, or make emergency landing. NATO only admitted reports of planes that literally fell in Serbia, while we can't know how many pilots ejected from damaged planes over other countries.
"while we can't know how many pilots ejected from damaged planes over other countries." ofc we can, would be all over the news.
??? really @@deaczorz
really what? if planes dropped down from the sky it would be on the news.@@bbrzakov
How does the SA2 fare to the SA3 still...
Finally found the SAM that chases it target 😂
SAMs are so much cheaper than air superiority fighters. But they are tools of defense, not empire - so the US has mostly ignored their development compared to jets.
Nonsens. Air defense can cover the advance of troops in case of an attack, just like Russia invades Ukraine or just like Serbia invaded Kosovo.
But nice try to paint Serbia as “defensive”. Try harder.
@@Grimshak81 "Serbia invaded Kosovo"
lol, lmao even
As mentioned in the video, you need hundreds of them to shoot down a couple of fighters. In total, surface-to-air missiles are much more expensive than fighters.
Never mind the likes of Patriot and THAAD, you have ignored AEGIS and the associated SM-3 missiles developed and deployed over many years.
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You used Mikoyan's footage for Aviation plant no 32… he didn't belong there though 😅
Yes S125 Neva a Surface Air Missile or SAM a Stealth killer alright if the enemy aircraft flying high altitude and but if the enemy aircraft is flying altitude is no longer a Stealth killer and because SAM missile are radar guided missile and radar can only detect if the enemy is flying high altitude and but cannot enemy aircraft is flying low altitude cannot detected it
Pointy is good. Pointy is scary.
Officially they admitted only three planes were shot down over Serbia and Montenegro. However, the truth is quite different. B2 was also shot down, but it hit the ground in neighbouring Croatia. British papers published that a great number of NATO planes vas seriously damaged and could not continue participation in the aggression against Serbia.
Indians retired these missiles for modern Aakash, Barak 8, Derby ,Python SAM missiles.
Very interesting subject of analysis. What is really worth to take notice is the intelligence and support provided by China to Serbians in order to achieve this amazing feat, but always considering the ability, professionalism and courage of the Serbian air defense troops.
I dont know if China helped with downing the F117 because the systems had short range 20km and not all had an extra P18 radar , that night escort fighters didnt fly nor the Prowler EW planes.
It was alot of luck because even if the P18 sees the plane the fire control radar must lock on and they couldnt lock on the first two times but the third time the pilot just opened the bomb Bay doors so the RCS became bigger so they could lock on.
But Yugoslav military intelligence did a good job and people saw when they took of from the Aviano base .A second F117 was hit and damaged but not shot down.
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The excuses such as: "the lucky shot", "the opened bomb door", "the same flight path" etc. are nothing but pure krap made up by those who simply can't come to terms with the fact that such a heavily praised piece of equipment was defeated!
1.) There is no such thing as a "lucky shot" when there's a radar which catches the target and missiles which are guided to that target!
2.) The F-117s designers weren't idhiots, the aircraft with the bomb doors included was declared stealth and it only takes a moment for the door to be opened and closed!
3.) The F-117s pilots weren't idhiots either in order to fly the exact same route & and be the only aircraft over the enemy territory at those times! Besides, NATO planes were attacking from all directions 360° to the point that at times the radar operators couldn't count them!
China helped Serbia to take down the F-117? I've never heard this in my life??
They shoot down 2 one of rhem crashed in croatia and one in serbia
F-117’s a fighter in name only. Its hit was a combo of luck (bay doors opened for a sec@wrong time), a great operator + using the same flight path/time repeatedly. *_Best part:_** the pilot + SAM operator hung out after the war.*
A competent (and ambitious) officer with a highly trained and motivated crew is always a dangerous opponent. It doesn't matter if they have an old-fashioned weapon system, they will find ways to maximize the performance.
There was also a healthy dose of sheer luck involved. But the soldiers know that Lady Fortuna doesn't smile for free, you have to earn it. The crew really did everything possible to maximize SA-3 performance.
@@Satunnaistasotilashistoriaa Well said.
The SAM operators were Hungarians...
@@paczkoandras6448 Really?
Do you mean that the crew was ethnic Hungarians or Hungarian citizens?
@@paczkoandras6448 BULLSHIT
I highly doubt it's capabilities I literally just saw a video the same rocket miss it's target... Link in the description jk
The truth is - more than just 3 aircraft were shot down by Serbia in 1999. You either don't know it or are biased heavily.
Priznali su zvanicno 3 komada f117. Oboren je i b2 sa istim sistemo, pao u hrvatskoj. To ne priznaju, isto kao sto 20 godina nisu priznali za jos 2 f117. Britanske novine su posle rata objavile da 2 trecine njihovih aviona nije u letnom stanju zbog ostecenja. Prevedi ovo molim te, ne pisem engleski.
Don't get angry about.
The western empire is all about invincibility illusion.
You can see the lies in all their wars, Arab Israeli conflict, gulf wars, Yogoslavia, and now Ukraine , and Gaza
A 30/40-year-old missile shoots down an ultra-stealth aircraft, given the technological backwardness, especially in electronics, of Soviet systems, the real question to ask is: Is the relative stealth of modern aircraft the panacea?
Isn't an excellent electronic warfare and jamming suite more effective?
Not being an aeronautical specialist, I can only ask myself the question: Is this much vaunted stealth really effective?
I ask the question in all humility not having the necessary knowledge to form an objective point of view.
Well its effectiveness is being eroded. New stealth methods arise but those do not keep pace with detection developments. However its still better than no stealth because of the brutal effectivness of modern SAMs. In case of the F117 the situation was a bit different. At that time there were no other stealth aircraft, it was a special tool, truly undetectable with tech available than. Serbs (in reality the SAM commander) found a loophole that allowed detection altough no tracking... So they fired and hoped for proximty fuze.
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S125 Neva shoot down F117a,not S125 Neva Pechora because Pechora is better, learn little about that things you informed.
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Pointy.
Outdated systems
Nobody cares about natos reporting name
You will surprise how former Soviet and Warsaw pact adopted NATO designation.......
@@danielcifuentes7198 Wonder why they went and do that considering their governements have to actually try very hard to join the alliance and then their parliaments vote on it. They must have a very good reason to desperately want to join NATO... A big mystery to me.
@@ggtt2547 one reason is the soviet invasion to Czechoslovaquia in 1968, repression to polish people in the 80s, Katyn forest massacre of the polish elite in the 1940's, population repression in 1930's with Stalin and Beria..... and the list is very but very long
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