Subwoofer Shootout | Budget vs. Midrange vs. DIY vs. Old School Subs
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 23. 01. 2019
- Are you looking for a subwoofer but aren't sure what you need? Hopefully, this video will give you some insight as to what to look for in a subwoofer.
Subs reviewed: SVS SB2000, ELAC SUB3010, DIY N'Ice Cube, DIY Voxel Sub by Paul Carmody, Micca MS10, Micca MS12, Angstrom Forza.
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Thanks for the volume warning regarding the test sweep. I have an isolated 12v (big AGM boat battery/battery tender, 2 farad cap, setup in the living room for bench testing automotive subwoofers down to 1.5-2 ohms @ 800w RMS. This is in addition to monitors and rack the setup I've made for editing 5.1 audio.
For this test I ran a DVC Alpine Type-R 12 in a factory volume recommended spec sealed cabinet. 8g 2.5m speaker leads and 2g 30cm power delivery. The volume is turned WAY down, @ 20-23hz not only can you see the woofer working, but feel the pressure changing in the room, at 45hz, it's getting loud, at 60hz, I'm shutting things down because it's rumbling things off my shelves.
Since I'm studying abroad right now I can't compare it to my trusty PARADIGM REFERENCE PDR-12. Which consider to be a really solid entry into the hifi game, if you are on a budget and don't want to tinker.
1000% right about JL Audio some of the best woofer for YEARSSSSSS
Thanks for taking a scientific approach to this shootout, glad you enjoyed the SB-2000. Great insights!
Hey can you send me one too, please? I like your products but can't afford the sub. I'll tell my friends about you (but can't guarantee they will buy anything from you cuz they also broke like myself.)
Thanks
Lol zheer
@@ZHEER lol
@@ZHEER Damn. Has that ever worked for you? đ
My best friend has an SVS SB13 Ultra...amazing sub.
I love the fact that you don't waste time with introductions and get right into the data and tests. Like Boom! Here's the meat and potatoes and here's why you clicked on the video. You deserve more subscribers tbh
Thank you!
yes. Some sites take a third of the video telling you what they are going to tell you, and then go further, enumerating sections! An introductory couple of sentences and then you are giving us info. Thanks! Also, I learn a lot from your presentations.
Introductions are for people trying to sell you bullshits.
đ€Ł I had this conversation with a fellow CZcamsr earlier today.
I hate it when I watch someone new and the first thing they do is ask me to subscribe. I'm like, "I haven't even seen what your video is like yet!" đ
One of a few clips on youtube that actually places the viewer into the actual video. The fact that you gave us the option to test out our speakers/headphones made watching the video more enjoyable, as I felt like *I* was collecting all this data and making the these tests along with you.
Great job man!
Hey thank you for telling me that. That's what I was hoping for!
This is the best coverage of subwoofers I've seen anywhere on the internet. Bravo! I learned so much from this.
Thanks. Glad it was helpful. I will try to do an update when I get more subs in.
For an 8" sub, Joe, that's banging! Nicely done.
Thanks a lot for the test. I have two SB2000 in the corner with an Antimode and I love them. After I see your results I like them even more :)
I own the SVS PC2000 & love it, looking to buy a 2nd
This is one of the best sub comparison videos, from the frequency side while not getting too technical. Learned a lot from it as a relative noob. Love that white gloss finish on the sub you made. I bet it sounds as delicious as it looks.
Rocking the Sauconys! I finally see someone else wearing them. Thanks for taking this seriously. Most people become a caricature on CZcams.
Confirmed my desire for a SVS subwoofer. Thanks.
Do ittttt. And do 2. I got a pair of the pb 12 nsd's in december. Only regret i have is not having more money to buy their better products.
Frequency doesn't tell the whole story of how a sub will sound, be warned
Go try a rel acoustic but not their ht range
Got an SVS Sb12nsd and it exceeded my expectations.
Check out Power Sound Audio
Tom V. Left SVS and started Power Sound Audio ..Built in the USA
Svs is now made in China and can't touch them.
Joe..... Thank you for the very detailed information! Because of you I finally pulled the trigger the SB 2000 and finished my 5.2 setup.
Whoo! Let me know what you think of it.
Cool video, I like seeing measurements across a range of prices, including DIY. I went the DIY route on my main speakers and am contemplating it for a subwoofer. Great work!
This blow my mind. Thanks for explaining the different frequencies.
You are the BEST reviewer because you are not scared to rank the speakers on the board.
Thank you. Yeah why not right? It's just my opinion. Someone else might rank them differently.
Great video! I have SVS, JBL, RSL and several Def Tech older (2009 ish) subs and powered speakers with subs although both Def Tech subs never really sounded very good for the short period of time that they actually worked. All at their price points when purchased (not the Def Techs) and for their intended uses are great. Watching channels like yours really helps when doing the research.
Great job of showing differences between a handful of different subs and explaining how they would fit in with a sound system.
I like how you were trying not to blast the other subs before the SVS too bad:
"85 decibels at 32.8Hz which is about the same as some of these... well not that one... no... never mind."
I was also impressed by the Nice Cube. I'm not really looking for extension below about 27.5Hz anyway and that looks like it would be great for me.
Great comparison video Joe! All your videos are excellent reference and very well produced. I would have liked to see this before I bought my latest sub, the Dayton Audio SUB 1000, to go with my B652AIRs. I used to own a Klipsch KSW-12 and that I do miss.
@Joe N Tell Your video on sub was the best I've seen so fare. Keep doing your great job.
Another excellent video! Just found your channel today and Iâm definitely subscribing. Youâre one of the few honest and fair youtubers out theređđ
I sure as hell try! đ
Amazing video!! Need to get more shootouts like this. I would LOVE to see the bic america f12, Polk psw505, and klipsch r120sw shootout. They are all $200 and nobody agrees on which is best. F12 has been popular forever and you still canât find graphs or reviews as detailed as yours
I actually had the PSW505 and F12 and the Dayton Sub1500. The Polk is the loudest but is ruined by the insane port noise, it's excruciating. The f12 is also loud but much cleaner sounding and no port noise, but not as accurate as the Polk. I settled on the Sub1500. Not quite as loud as the Polk but goes sooo much lower and is accurate enough.
I own an F12.. forget it. Buy the Acoustech sub. It's a premium line of BiC and better than all of the prior mentioned subs. F12 sounds like shit when side by side
Both Elac (I have two S12EQ running here) and the SVS (used to have the SB12) are great subs. Your results pretty much show that as well...đ
Thank you for doing this. I love that you had the diy dayton. Considering the price it's probably better to just grab a premade sub but for me I have a dayton 15" sitting around not being used and I'm glad to see it would be comparable or better than premades
Thanks man, I live in Finland and most of the brands talked about in reviews aren't sold here so this was useful to get a feel of the landscape
We have a REL R328. Seriously a wonderful sub. Recognised also as one of the very best for music audiophiles. Can be connected to the AV amps low end output and also a second music amps high end speaker cable. Has seperate gain controls for low and high end inputs. I give it 10/10
Was the Elac room-corrected? Because it will mean that the near-field response won't be flat. It'll be colored to fit the room.
Auto-eq was turned off
Dude, you did a great job building that sub, I am really impressed with both the build quality and component selection. Of course the performance tells the tale.......fantastic job!
Thanks Bob! đ
Thanks for the detailed tests! Something to consider for future testing....
1. Don't have the other subs anywhere near the one being measured. The cones of nearby subs will move at some frequencies and change your measurements slightly.
2. Most people I know place their subs near a wall to get the benefits of boundary loading. I noticed that each sub was a few feet off the wall when being measured. This could introduce boundary cancellation at certain frequencies, screwing with the measurements.
Still a very detailed comparison.
Thanks!
Thank you and you're right. I try to measure close enough to the source that any room interactions, or as you've stated, speaker cone resonances from nearby speakers, will have minimal effect on the measurements. It's not perfect because of the fact that I'm indoors and/or not in an anechoic chamber, but it isn't meant to be an absolute measurement, just a relative one.
Great video as usual...I appreciate the effort..I'm sure it took a long time to do
Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks Joe
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Never been that into audio but ran into your video and now you have sparked the interest in me. Great videos
That's great! That's one of the biggest compliments you could give me.
I can not tell you how many times I have used to the bass frequency sweep with a microphone to do room adjustments, thanks as always Joe!
hopefully you could get in the Emotiva BasX and the Monoprice Monolith subs for review!
Took your advice and turned down my 48" tall ( Upward radiating into sloped ceiling ) cylindrical reflexed (out bottom spreading under sound cabinet into room) 12" sub woof . Good thing because at 26 HZ the sound started and by 33 I might have torn the diaphragm , otherwise . Great to know it works so deep . ' In The Air' made me think it might .đ
I drive this speaker only up to 75 Hz using an electronic variable crossover , Your test also verified for me that this was the best point for the rest of the amplification . Thanx .
That's awesome. You're welcome.
I am using an 18" Reference Dayton HO Sub in a sealed enclosure with 1000w. Extends to 15 hz in my room at reference. Thanks for the video, very informative and interesting to see the comparisons.
Joe, I'm quietly confident that my 6-month old A-T headphones can 'hear' lower frequencies than my ~60 year old ears ;)
Thanks for the video.
waoh the bass test was amazing!!
Great video! Playing those tones is the perfect way to quickly make your point regarding speaker range.
Back in the day, I used a car bandpass sub box with dual 12â Pioneers. I used a Yamaha plate amplifier (removed from a busted up Yamaha theatre sub). I cobbled it together for $190 and I swear it was amazing.
My two Sunfire subs are 10X (each) more money but not 10X better.
Great video again.
Those peaks you show are due to the fact that you had a port facing a hardwood floor, you were getting resonance peaks, put them on a rug and run the test again.
Possibly! I didn't even consider that. Thanks! I'll pin your comment to let others know. Unfortunately I can't change the video.
@@joentell I just re-read what I posted, sorry, that sounds aweful bossy, I meant to say you should try them on a rug, not "DO IT" lol, but no worries.
It didn't come off as bossy to me. I thought you were making a suggestion. Some people say, you're doing X & Y wrong and don't even offer a recommendation to do it better.
You think the sub is vibrating the floor causing the floor to create its own sound? Could be, mine makes my windows sing.
Peaks have to do with the room dimensions. Wave lengths on bass are so long that any cloth material including carpet has no impact. You need mass like concrete to hold bass in.
Although the wealth of information was nothing new to me I was still captivated by your video, but if you really wanted to give us something extra for the real bassaholics or audiophiles for the lack of a better word you should of found out the QTC value of each. This way we would of seen a correlation of each sub woofer with it's roll off and frequency response in conjuction with price and other features. Ultimately understanding the transients of each sub, what really matters in a sub woofer.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt correcting one another and coming up with such a sentence yourself, hilarious +1 Yoda
Great comparison video! Thanks for all you do, peace!
This is the best video on this topic I've seen, in all manner that best can be described. My 15 inch passive sub (JBL B380) powered by a Sony TA-N80ES in bridged mode operating at 560 watts gets down to 24Hz -6db. I bought it back in 1988 for music and movies . Crossover is set at 6oHz for mains and 80 Hz for surrounds and center.. At any rate, the sub is awesome for dance music pleasure. I can't imagine listening to dance music without sub integration.
Thank you!
I absolutely love my ELAC Debut2 3010 sub. I bought it during Black Friday for half off plus had a $70 Amazon gift card. It hits lower than my previous 12" powered sub. It's very articulate and musical sounding. Perfect for music and movies. Very easy to blend in with my front towers.
For the amount you paid...you can't go wrong. You have to admit, that SVS is crazy though. ;-)
@@joentell that SVS sub is awesome! My next sub will either be a SVS or HSU. Thanks for this sub comparison video. :)
I want to get some stiffer competition in for review. We'll see what happens.
I got the ELAC 3010 for $220ish from Best Buy in Dec. I really like the control the app gives you. I think you can manually tune it pretty flat, I just don't have the software to measure it. I'm pretty happy with it myself.
Kind of disappointed more time wasn't spent with the app in this video, or with this sub in general.
Well it wasn't a full review of that sub. I had a lot of subs. I think I covered most of what it does though.
Very nice review! You earned a new sub.
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Man nice work Joe!
Thanks for all your work
You're welcome. I had to sacrifice a bit of quality to try to include more subs in this shootout. I tried to make it up in quality of the content.
GREAT video, Joe!! Very helpful, honest content.
Thank you. Glad it helped
the SVS is a freaking beast! would be great if you can review some of the other brands you mentioned (HSU, Rythmik, etc...)
A very informative review. However, there are other subs that would bury the SVS (even higher-end SVS models) such as the Seaton SubMersive HP+ (made in the US) and Funk Audio 24.0 (made in Canada). These subs are in an entirely different league than SVS, HSU,... and of course, the price difference reflects this.
@@davidr9606 at those prices, i'd sure hope they crush the SVS... the law of diminishing returns hurt those badly, especially those funk audio products...
Oh yeah for sure. This is an awesome little sub.
i really enjoyed this.
I was listening on the laptop and didnt hear any tone until 240hz..., then i stopped it and got my older Sony MDR-XB700's and picked up rumbles from 16hz, however true tone @ 21hk ! I just love those so much. I look like an idiot...., but such an underrated haedphone. Watch them get picked up all over the world ..,now. The other 3 earover phoned were up in the 38-42hz range..
Ta.
Trius Betrons are good budget headphones
I put 2x SB2000s in my home theatre.... OMG! I love them, so clear and tight. Cross over at 120Hz with my Pioneer floor standers.
I love watching these videos, wasn't really into audio before but I'm way into it...
That makes me happy!
sad that the dayton audio sub-1200 and sub-1000 wasn't in the video, they look about the same as the Micca subs but are cheaper than the Micca. would have been awesome to see their performance against the Micca subs.
Micca looks like it's using the same enclosure. I'm curious to see them compared against each other.
@@beezaa the enclosure is similar, but not the same. There's been multiple brands before Dayton audio that has used a similar designed enclosure.
I have the Dayton sub-800 and it's a beast for the price that I paid for it. It easily fills a small room.
Joe could you do those 2.1 PC speakers like logitech and klipsch?
usbdevice waste of time
Not in the near future, but I will keep my options open
Also pls review edifier s350db 2.1 system if possible
What do you think about a diy sub made with a car subwoofer? I have a skar vvx 8" just lying around
Love my dual sb2000s with 4 paradigm studio 100s and a center as well. For a total of 14 7in subs. The SVSâ extend under 100hz perfectly. Such a great systemđ„đ„
the sweep tests have indicated to me that my headphones are AWESOMEEEEEEEE right down to 16Hz Best $80 I ever spent.
Gotta know what headphones you have. That blows mine away.
@@Chris-adams-rc-journey keep it in your pants for a sec there buddy lol the bass isn't in any way enhanced and you're probably going to be disappointed with how flat the frequency response is since my headphones ONLY play what's recorded, with not even THE SLIGHTEST ounce of that enhanced bass that airpods and beats give you. If you can handle the somewhat boring uncolored sound signature of studio monitors then no problem BUT if not, these headphones are NOT FOR YOU! czcams.com/video/7_BxKsGurII/video.html
how did you know it wasnt in my pantsđ§
thanks for the link
about 3 db down at 90 hz with the infinity minuettes connected to my computer... not impressive
Great video, I learned alot from this demo. Keep up the great work.
Edit: Now that its daytime and I can hit reference levels, the SVS SB12-NSD's start up at around 12hz and the 25 year old Klipsch KG5.2's @ 21-22Hz. I would say that's not too shabby. đ
Just found you by accident tonight, Joe, but I'm liking the content and the short, no nonsense way you are presenting it. Subscribed. Keep up the good work.
What about the BIC America 12"
Daniel Alcorn thatâs what I want to know
I have one, great sub! But I have to say I kinda like the Dayton Sub1500 better. It goes lower and is more accurate than BIC F12. Maybe not quite as much volume but it's not far behind.
@@justinbeamon6624 Since it's more accurate, would that make the Dayton great for music? I prefer orchestrated music but listen to just about every genre of music except for pop and reggaeton.
18Hz on my Sennheiser HD 598 I am impressed!
4:28 Oh so then it's around 20-22Hz
Hahaha. Open the bottles đđđ
Good job. The grafts were super informative. Good job on your DIY sub too.
Well done bro....I learned some stuff today and your sub was quite impressive.
My headphones start at 30hz but normal bass at 40 :/
Below 20 hrtz is wonderful when you can feel it in your chest. I'm not one to interested in wall rattling but high pressure is intoxicating.
Paul Carmody!!!! The MAN THE LEGEND in our coveted DIY!! I still love my SPEEDSTERS.
4â TB and that Fountex Ribbon! Whew itâs amazing and now he has a small sub to go with it?? Awesome Iâll build that! Awesome vid man!
Very interesting test. I can hear my speakers down to about 53 Hz but just barely. It sounds like my 3 dB down point is about 70 Hz. Insignia bookshelves (NS-SP213, out of production) on my computer desk.
Should have some HSU Research on here.
I mentioned them in the end. Hopefully they're open to sending me something to review in the future
@@joentell I saw that. Once they go on sale again I'll be picking up a VTF-2 MK5.
@@joentell acoustech is literally just as good and less expensive. It's a HSU rip off and it's legit
Daaaaaaum my laptop started at 230hz! what a pice of hifi gory.
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Even my smartphone can play lower hzđ 86 and up (huawei p20 pro)
@@that-midas6781 I heard down to 10 hz on my headphones seems impossible. It must be down to compression
@@brucegarethgeorge 14 with my earbuds. I don't know if I should believe that either, seems crazy
Nice vid bro. Excellent work.
Great work, really helpful and timely for me, thanks!
I can hear My Logitech G233 at 17hz but mostly hear it at 20hz and up
30hz I hear it but I hear air too
This was really good. It seems that picking a sub is more tricky than picking main speakers. I got some advice from an audiophile friend which helped a lot. getting the speakers in phase can be tricky.
Phase is just delay
Set one to 0 and there other 180
You can find tune them with the dub has the option
Svs subs are best.
Dude you just made me fall in love with my momentum 2 headphones all over, I heard the entire range especially after 15. Not even at full blast. Best between 20-35. Going to test my subs when I get home.
Maybe I felt the lowest frequencies...
Have you ever seen Phil Jones Bass amps for bass guitar? They make arguable the best bass amps in the world, and instead of massive 12" or 15" woofers, they use ever increasing arrays of 5" drivers.
Interesting!
Very interesting... Google here I come.
I can imagine if they were loaded with somr Scanspeak Revelators, whoa boy.
The general range of bass guitars is much different than the general range of a dedicated subwoofers. Bass guitar is a mid-range instrument. 40Hz @ 120dB is much much easier to achieve than 20Hz @120dB, and the drivers reflect this. This is why you still see giant subwoofers bins at every major concert where price is no object, even when they are also flying MASSIVE line arrays just like you're referring to in the ceilings. There are actually a few bass cab companies that design their bass cabs to be truly full range, though it's a rarer niche. Check out greenboy's fEARfull enclosures, they are absolute monsters. They don't get the respect they deserve as a small company.
@@asthecrowflies1201 never heard of him but I am interested and off to search it ty.
Running 14 12â subs in my tiny bedroom. I think Iâve got the low notes covered lmao.
Thank you for this straightforward video--how is it I'm only discovering your channel THIS WEEK!!
No, let it be known! đ More is better for me.
I plan on eventually making an infinity kappa enclosure for a JL 12W6v2 that's been laying around for years. I have the box designed in CAD, just need to find time to make it and fork out the money for the crown audio amp I plan on driving it with. Been a little tricky as I want to run it in the 2 Ohm configuration and it's hard finding amp specs at that resistance.
DIY all the way. Car audio subs are way more beastly for the price. Put a sundown, Image Dynamics IDMax or Dayton Ultimax in your own enclosure an an external Crown subwoofer amp...
Agree. With some of the car audio subwoofers, you just have to make sure they aren't sluggish sounding. I used to have 3 x 10 JL Audio W6's when I was in high school. Loved them. Then later I got the Orion HCCA and it had more SPL per sub, but not as "musical". It was loud, but didn't blend very well with my speakers.
@@joentell lol hcca are competition subs.
My mistake. That thing sure sounded like it to. ONE NOTE BASS! đđđ We didn't have the access to info we have now.
Were those Kicker Competition subs for competition? đ My friend had one (before they started doing weird square Solo-barics) in a bandpass box and it sounded pretty good for a single 10". I think his was a C10. I brought over my JL Audio 10W6 and he đą. Then I ended up getting 2 more and running it on an old school Soundstream "cheater amp" that claimed like 25 watts but putting out over 500w.
Do note that many "car audio branded" subs are often build for high SPL output and not flat linear response.
dang i should have wore my headphones ... my GF wasnt very happy with me shaking the walls @12hz lol! my sub picks up all of it ! i have a custom built Digital designs 1500 series 10'' motor that i turned into a 15'' , the cone and dustcap is aluminum , custom dual 8.5'' spider landings ''2 spiders per landing'' , Custom PE voice coil round wire copper 4layer , its in a ported 3.5cu ft net box tuned to 28hz ''placement in my house actually drops the tuning abit lower than 28hz'' its powered by a Sony 700RMS amplifier
I know people DIY their own enclosures and crossovers, but did you Frankenstein your own drivers?
@@joentell yes sir , if you havent you should check out my insane 6'' peak to peak driver i built , sounds like crap but it will smash 15hz like nobody knew ! it was built more as a fun project and not very usable , i do love building usable drivers , take something basic and redo it from the motor up to make a totally different driver
Subscribed! When I saw your channel name, I didn't expect you to have a channel with 14k subscribers! đ
I have a question you might be able to answer. What's a good car subwoofer for SQ? I used to run 3 x 10" JL Audio W6's and I liked the way they sounded. Any other companies now that good sound for a lot less?
@@joentell NVX VS series , Dayton ''which you know about '' , Hutchinson car audio ''they are expensive but hand made and worth the cost'', digital designs , DC audio , really hard to list them all but it really depends what you are going for and budget . and as you know the box makes a world of difference .
I loved the sound frequency generator. On my Sony tv, I could hear the sound from 135 Hz, on my pc speakers I could hear the sound from about 42 Hz and on my headphones, the sound was audible from 32 Hz. I'm impressed with my speakers and headphones!
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Hey Joe, still catching up with some of your old vids! Question for you. On subs theres usually a L+R input on plate amps. I found a better sub amp response by splitting thr mono pre out from a av amp. Is this the right thing to do? And why do most plate amps have and l+r phono in when in most situations your using a mono signal?
this is not a complaint or anything but if you really want to go deep you need 15 or even 18 inches
thats not to say smaller subs cant go deep its just that the bigger subs are just naturally better at it
even a budget car audio sub like the mtx rt15 can hit 27 hz -3db without any dsp whatsoever
in a nice custom built ported enclosure . now dont get me wrong the svs subs are amazing but they also cost a pretty penny
what i forgot to add the frequency response is almost flat down to 30 hz where it slowly starts to roll off
now considering that 27 hz -3db is amazing for a chassis that cost around 120 bucks
and if you can afford to build the box a bit bigger you can go down to around 24-25 hz -3db
of course the enclosure is not small by any means we are talking 3 cubic feet for the 27 hz and 4 cubic feet for the 25 hz version
Big subwoofers take up soooooo much room though... It's not even necessary! Devialet's Phantom speaker plays down to 18Hz as does B&W's PV range of subs. These both use 6.5 inch woofers in an opposing SEALED cabinet.
The only thing that makes an 18inch woofer better than them is that it doesn't need a lot of amplification before it moves enough to play a
The B&W's have a 6.5" woofer? And it goes down to 18hz?
You're exactly right. For every octave you drop, you need twice the displacement of air, to maintain SPL. A small sub can produce the same frequencies, just not as loud. For a near field multimedia set up, a 6" sub can do very well, because it just doesn't need to be so loud, when it's within arms reach.
Mine can go to 10hertz
Me too i heard it from the start
Same
Except I'm using headphones
I have an old (~18yrs old) Yamaha 5.1 Home Theater system. It was the one that has the five 24" high 7.5" wide enclosures mounted on on a 3' stand (center is laid on it's side like a sound-bar under the TV). Each enclosure is fitted with a 1" tweeter on center between four 3.5" mids, with a powered 8" sub. It's a down facing, side ported enclosure, for the sub. The system has worked well over the years and gets loud for what it is, and currently I have my PC hooked up for sound. I don't know all these details you've spit out, a technical subject I'm still learning, and I always thought the sub lacked a little. I have it's volume control turned up to about 3/4, because when it's turned all the way up it gets over powering, and too low and it doesn't keep up with the volume of the other speakers. It seemed to always punch hard at around the 50- 60Hz and never hit hard on the lower frequencies. But I was surprised with the test sweep you did. On the up-sweep I could hear the sub start in at around 22Hz (could barely hear it), and the thunder rolled from a peak of about 35Hz and rolled off from there... But on the down-sweep it punched in at around 65Hz with a small fade, up to another peak at 35Hz before it fell off. So now I think I just need to tune down the EQ at that 50-65Hz, where it always seems to be louder than the rest of the frequencies when listening to music. And then it can be turned up more. Great videos btw.
JoeNTell, How do I go about building my own 10" bi-amp sub with XLR in and out? Thx
Would you recommend for those of us with single budget subs to set the speaker setting to Large and lfe+ main/ plus especially if we have towers?
I would like to buy some budget stuff for music & movies & PC games. At the beginning I was looking for some bookshelfs speakers, but I just realized that probably I will not get deep bass with small speakers without a subwoofer . Is it actually possible to build some stereo 2.0, where you can get some deeper bass for movies ?
I have allready bought tpa3116 D class amp (you can get it really cheap from china and connect to laptop power supply 20V ~4 amps) and I am waiting for some good offer for Polk Audio T50. T50 spec --> Total Frequency Response 38 Hz â 24,000 Hz. Let me know what will be better to build on the budget --> 2.0 Polk Audio T50 or some cheap bookshelfs (probably min freq response above 50Hz + subwoofer) ??
Great report and thanks for the help! I have an SVS sub woofer on order but want to also fix my NHT sub woofer. Do you know where I could get a 10" replacement driver for an NHT setup?
Dude!
My antique (1991/1992-ish) MTX 10â powered subwoofer went down to 21 Htz!
Iâm stoked!
Plate Amplifier? I learnt something new today :) Thanks for the video. Very cool and appreciate your efforts to provide easy to understand tech knowledge.
Could hear it down to 13 hurts felt it down at 10 Hertz.
And that DIY sub of yours - Nice cube - its amazing job .. Shows your passion towards these things ;)
Hey Joe! What frequency response would you consider is in the acceptable subwoofer category. Since I'm on a budget, a 36 Hz should be good enough? Or should I still consider going lower than that? Thank you!
That glow in the dark "mistake" is awesome bro!
Finally, I've searched for a video like this for a loooooong time brother, AND it's available in 1440p, god bless. Hope you do more like these! I'm currently rocking a SVS pc-ultra, trying to sell it to make my own, probably dual Dayton 15's (or 18, the neighbours must hear my system aswell ofcourse) ultras or reference series. What is your favourite?
I hear that DIY is the way to go if you're looking for best bang for your buck. I like the SVS subs so far.
When you measured the ported speakers, did you do a separate 1m measurement of the port then splice with the driver measurement?
Listening on Bower and Wilkins PX
Rolloff occurs @ 31hz, still sounds good down to 22hz. Anything below 22hz is weak.
I'd love to hear a XM3 and QC35 customer review
Is it possible that you can a replica one of the greatest tower speakers every made that they stopped making almost 20 years ago, the Infinity Overture 3.