Depp v. Amber Heard Trial Day 17 Afternoon - Amber Heard Cross-Examination. TMZ Slipup.
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0:00 Welcome
11:09 Amber Heard Cross-Examination
41:42 Deposition Video
1:00:00 TMZ Slip Up
1:03:40 The Door Is open - Amber Heard Domestic Violence
1:04:30 Amber Heard Re-Direct
1:07:00 Elaine Mocked Depp
1:41:51 Court Break & Questions
1:58:30 Law Nerd Proposal
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One year later and I’m STILL watching this trial lol
Saaaaameeee
Yup
I can’t stop, it’s addicting and so satisfying!!!
Same lol
And here I go again watching this redirect LMAO 😂😂😂
Camille’s smile when she knew she struck a nerve with Amber and just let her ramble in her rage = absolute golden moment.
When? I've been in and out. I can only do little bits and pieces of Amber at a time
@@cindorella1495 following for the timestamp!
I assume after the TMZ slip when she started ranting. That was gold.
Whennnn?
@@yilz123 59 min mark
Amber refusing to say yes or agree with Camille is literally hilarious.
Camille: you arrive to Australia in May of 2015 correct?
Amber: uh, it was the end of spring on the 15th year of the second millennium, yes.
Camille: and you had been arguing with Mr Depp for 2 hours, correct?
Amber: it had been about 119 minutes, maybe 121.
Camille: it was night time, so it was dark outside, correct?
Amber: I wouldn't agree with that characterization.
she's insane
That was her trying to control the narrative as hard as she could but it was so insanely transparent lol
Her entire testimony in this trial in a nutshell. She ultimately ruined this case for herself. And the sad part to me is, she truly thinks she did nothing wrong.
@@2k_ True definition of insaneity actually is.
The entire cross was like the Patrick and Man-Ray "Is this your wallet?" scene. Unbelievable.
Elaine mocking Johnny Depp is unprofessional and frankly disgusting. A lawyer mocking a dv victim? Gross. Shame on Elaine.
yeah Elaine strikes me as one of those people who's still on that toxic masculinity thing and doesn't think men can be victims of DV. She probably finds this all amusing, thinks the jury will too, and that's why she feels comfortable mocking him.
Absolutely couldn't agree more. Also Heards legal team has oddly released a statement to TMZ, stating Depp's legal team will more than likely " victim shame " Heard during their cross examination etc yet the clear survivor and the true victim in the relationship, is Depp. Every single thing Heard alleged happened to her, no pics, video or audio supported her claims and everything Depp alleged happened, was supported by factual evidence, audio of Heard admitting to hitting him, saying she on the stand that she has never and could never hit Depp and photo her legal team submitted of Depp passed out on the couch, ice cream melting in his lab, also showed on the table, a bruise kit which is used to create fake bruises and injuries. Dr. Kipper also said the marks on her arm is self inflicted, cops saw no injuries, the nurse Heard claims was hit by or nearly hit by a Red Bull can, stated that never happened and right before that nurses deposition, Heard tried to get her nursing license revoked for not reporting alleged abuse but everyone's lying according to Amber.
@@J_Lynn And more recently with her “15 minutes fame” comments towards some of the witness. SMH.
I’m sure that her hostility is the reason Heard retained her after the UK trial. It tracks with how she behaved with other witnesses. I wanna say it was Rottenborne that had the audacity to ask Mrs Dombrowsky something along the lines of “and you think that a disagreement would justify you being abused?” It was such bullshit, Chew immediately jumped up.
She’s not just an enabler, she’s Heard’s co-abuser. Heard cannot belittle Depp anymore so now Elaine does it for her. She cannot gaslight Depp’s memory anymore so she got Dr Spiegel to do it for her. They’re all gross.
SO CRAZY how she says she wouldn’t know how to leak things to TMZ but then immediately says if she was going to do it, she wouldve done it in a “much more successful way, a bigger way”
THIS!
Amber Trump
That said a lot about her, she must've thought about a million different twisted ways to ruin Johnny.
Good catch!!!
Oh ya as soon as she said that I was like girl your mask just dropped.. bragging about how if you wanted to ruin someone's life you would do it in a bigger and more elaborate way 😂 I really hope the jury see through her, she is actually insane and will never back down. She has way too much to lose at this point.
She is calling every single person a liar. Johnny, nurse, doctor, issac, cops, front desk at the ECB etc…
SHE WAS TOAST the moment she got busted committing FINANCIAL CRIMES and lying to everyone re donating NONE of the $7 Million.....PLUS she blocked JD from paying the charities DIRECTLY. No jury is going to buy that bull!
She's a childish liar. VERUCA SALT.
ex:
TWICE today she flat-out said "I NEVER HIT JOHNNY" (ever!) when she herself has ALREADY said that she DID punch him when she lied that JD was going to push her down the stairs, for instance! OOOF!!
I was shocked Camille cut her cross so short.
There were hundreds MORE THINGS Camille could've and should've but maybe they felt they had UTTERLY DESTROYED Amber so no need to waste the jury's time with more proof.
Sterling Jenkins, Gandalf, her lawyers, Warner brothers, tmz, the dog….
@@Fresh.Peches definitely the dog got stung by a bee, then I ran out of macaroni. I don't have enough money for a Lamborghini
Even Ben King...she said she didn't have the conversation with Ben about "losing it". I was like wtf?? Ben doesn't seem like a person who would lie under oath, unlike Amber.
Yup Ben king, the property manager from the island, the guy from the plane, her personal assistant, the elevator footage, they’re all LYING!
"What if anything, and it is a cure all."
OH MY GOD ELAINE, HOW CAN YOU TALK BACK TO A JUDGE LIKE THAT??
Floored. 😮
Because the judge has no spine and allowed it, that's how.
@@czhaok Takes a lot of spine to deal with Elaine's shit. Considering you, as a judge, need to be unbiased and fair, whereas Elaine. A lawyer, is trying her hardest to be biased for her employer. Amber.
@@czhaok there’s a theory that she allowed a bunch of bs because she didn’t want there to be any chance of appeal (although it was still filed, but thankfully dropped)
Judge Penny has the patience of a saint.
I started to almost feel bad for Elaine when she was struggling. Then she started acting snarky and arrogant to the judge, and I got over it 😬
she is vile
I wonder why the judge didn’t admonish her or both of them with all their antics.
Heard Thinks it's just horrible, Horrible lol you can see it in her face, that Waldman threw that newspaper down! So funny, that hurt her feelings! Yep lol
I don't feel sorry for Elaine. Trying to say those injuries are so damn bad officers didn't do their job? They see Real injuries, really bad bloody DV scenes. IO questions like they are horrible injuries to her scalp, Elaine there is no blood or puss there! This is Rediculious, trying to make out like this is such a violent record is crazy, we know better. At this point I can imagine Heard pulling her own hair, then Elaine pulling her own thinking I have to defend this load of crap. Saying something happened to you garners sympathy, saying you have sooo much proof then offering up this stuff is just a house of cards, built on nothing once you start looking close. Elaine trying to say those officers did something wrong is a pitiful waste of time. It reeks of desperation, everything from Heard is a big fat nothing.
If you had seen the shit Elaine tried to pull while they where doing discovery, after the trial it all came out and she was a fucking mess.
Bruh. Even Johnny looks embarrassed for Amber and her attorney during redirect. This is deliciously painful to watch - this is exactly what people are talking about when they say they "can't look away from a car wreck".
@@User-tj9qz Schadenfreude 😊
Honestly the thing I’m going to miss most about this trial is the way Emily says ELAAAAAIINE!! 😩😂😂😂 cracks me up
Please to put time stamp.
I love it so much I want to make it a ringtone / alarm tone
My fave parts too 😂😂
Literally! We need some "turn your mic on, Elaine!" merch! 🤣
@@Modal_Mixxture "That's not how this works, Elaine!" "Get it together, Elaine!" Any (read: all) of these would be deeply appreciated.
She says Johnny’s team planted the story about her abusing her ex, but the article came out in 2009 before she was even with Johnny.
That's what we call the long con baby.
Yup 🤭
I was looking for someone to point this out !
And she was arrested. They could not bring that up
It's before they had even met. That's how freaking delusional she is. So eager to dismiss accountability.
Her lawyer pursued the “Johnny can’t look at you” line of questioning because Amber wanted them to. She obviously rehearsed the "I survived that man" routine.
Oh yeah for sure! I also noticed that when Camile questioned her about it the day before she said "to my knowledge he hasn't been able to." But now she changed her story. They clearly were talking about her testimony even though they are not supposed to.
The minute Elaine came back, AH turned her bad acting skills on again!!!
I O's friendship with Johnny ended when he went behind Johnny's back and posted Lily Rose as sexually fluid when she helped him promote an LGBT thing, Lily Rose had to come out and say she was straight and suffered a lot of press over it and I feel that Johnny felt betrayed because he always tried to protect his kids .
He felt extremely genuine but after reading this, I'm not even surprised
Jesus that's low. Why would you even mention your friends daughters sexuality without their permission...ugh. they seem all to be pretty cutthroat out for their own gain. Get what you can while you can ...
Her friend’s testimony, to me, just shows the jury how she was surrounded by friends and Johnny wasn’t jealous of her having friends. He never isolated her.
Yessss
Quite the opposite, he gave them penthouse’s to live in so they could be close.
@@thekitowl TO LIVE THERE FOR FREE!! Could you imagine your partner letting your friends live in nice homes FOR FREE? Cmon now
Rewatching in Nov 2023.
If Elaine had not objected to covering the transcription of the video, the jury would have focused on that, instead of noticing the blatant laughters and eye rolling of AH.
Oh, Elaine.
Elaine saying "what if anything, and that does cure everything..." made my jaw drop ( 1:18:00 ) after the judge said it wasn't a cure all. I just-
Absolute disrespect toward the judge, which is unprofessional.
R see😮😮 zthe😮sa 😮😅
Ben Chew should be very proud of his Associate! Camille did great and has been this whole trial! That law firm should be proud!
Partner Track~
It is great too that she is young. I'm sure she was super nervous. She has done a fantastic job!
Now, on to the gossip! I saw them whispering several times over the course of the trial and they had their hand on top of the other's hand. One day she rushed across the room to tell him goodbye as he was leaving. After she ends today, Camille hugs Ben, and then she hugs Johnny, with her hand on his chest. That damn Johnny Depp! He's so damn charming!
Besides her „you just couldn’t control yourself „ comment and the comment on not seeking medical help after an SA
I loved that Exchange- to me it
Felt like She wanted Johnny to feel like
She did a good job..And he did look so so proud- She seems Gentle like him - And It felt like he was surprised ! He probably knew she must be nervous, she is young- And she was EXCELLENT- fierce you could feel his admiration of her & genuine affection
@@TheDigitalThreat she is a Partner now. She got the promotion after the trial.
Knowing how AH operates, yes she is furious, thats why she walked passed her attorneys. I also believe that the “J wont look at you” part absolutely infuriates her, it kills her that he doesn’t, and not bc of what “he did” but bc she can no longer control him. Is that simple. AH is furious period.
You’re exactly right.
It’s funny because Amber initially said that he looked at her one more time after he said that. Then she said that he looked at her tons during the divorce. LOL
it's not just about control.
she has very strong abandonment issues. he does it to hurt her and it works extremly well. it is soo satisfying because she deserves it so much.
an ex of mine would start fights with me being very aggressively provoking me useing her knowledge of me to make it extra hurtful, every time i wanted to leave she was clawing into me and/or started backin me into a corner bt it's not like she would pause the fight while doing it. One time I had to escape over the scaffold outside of our house.
people like that would rather be hit than being left alone, because to them it proves that they are worth a strong and emotional reaction by you....but if you do that your life is over.
judging from reports of lawtubers, jury isnt looking at her either. its gotta be getting under her skin. this whole thing has built up PERFECTLY to expose her, its amazing
Real life drama being more exciting than movies! Bring me more popcorn!
1:33:35
AH - I auditioned
Emily - No one thought he literally auditioned for you
Me - JD wourld have made a better Mira than AH, and the movie would have been 120% better at least
Elaine mocking Johnny is appalling. Imagine a female domestic abuse victim being mocked by a male lawyer for something she said that showed the hurt she'd endured would remain with her the rest of her life. ..
Having had a Line Manager at work tell me how "disappointed in me' he was that I was still struggling with mental health issues and suicidal thoughts that affected my attendance at work when for 18 months I'd been in fear of my life every day, I can tell you disrespectful discounts and torment like that can cut very deep, especially if your gaslighting abuser would mock and discount your feelings. IMO, what Elaine did there was Abuse of someone vulnerable - whether she believes him or not, he has not been proven yet in a court of law that he isn't a victim
@@JenSell1626 thank you.
Can everyone just stop pitting male DV victims versus female DV victims because it really shouldn't matter. As a woman who is the survivor of DV abuse, rape, incest and molestation I'm getting tired of everyone essentially victimizing female DV victim simply because they're female.
It's not necessar. You can just say a DV victim should never be mocked by an attorney in court end of story. it's not an either or situation. DV victims should have access to resources, support and help and be able to have their day in court and protection.
Statistically, and I'm sorry to say it's true but it is just a simple fact that every third day in America a female is shot and killed with a gun by their DV partner. Statistically, the amount of female DV victims is exponentially higher than vice versa.
Female DV victims and I know this because I had to try and utilize all the resources out there for me have no real protections, not much rights and little to no social service help. I've learned in California that someone who goes to jail even if it was for DV abuse gets prioritized over the victim when it comes to social resources. This is because the ACLU works so hard on behalf of prisoners rights. There are tons of programs to get those people that have been to jail jobs, housing and the like and yet none exist for DV victims. Despite what you all think because nonprofits use PR reps just like companies to keep their donations and their government grants high and misrepresent how much actual assistance they provide.
That’s what lawyers do
@@mlduree I'm sorry for your experience, and I am a victim of DV myself, but no. It's important to talk about how male and female victims are treated differently, because one way or the other, society DOES treat victims differently because of their gender and it's super not cool. The issue doesn't get resolved by putting everyone under the same umbrella, because not everyone is dealing with the same issues. The point is a female victim would have never been mocked by a male atty in court. The fact that a male victim is mocked by a female atty in court without the batting of a single eye is telling of society's view of male victims.
I’m so sorry that you not only had to deal with the abuse etc. but also with having someone try to make you feel weak or bad because of what you were going through. I’m also a survivor who has dealt with depression and other issues. Every day that we wake up and keep going is a victory. Even when we are hanging onto the very slightest thread, it’s a victory. We’re warriors and, male or female, we need to stand together in support of each other. I’m sending hugs and blessings your way, my friend!
It’s interesting that Amber will never specify how she’s acted badly but Johnny has said what he’s done wrong in regards to his actions. She has done no wrong in her testimony.
She’s very “admirable” that’s why lol
Yep
And anything she admitted to doing wrong in the past is a lie if someone says they heard it. Or if it is on tape she was doing it because she had to but she never meant it.
She doesn't take accountability for anything. I mean she even blamed her own lawyers for not providing the pictures she turned in.
That would wreck the very scripted roll of the Puritan currently on the stand.
Is anyone surprised she admitted to alerting TMZ? I mean it would be hard not to after having your dog step on a bee.
@@Fallofasparrow Absolutely! Her insisting over & over that "I wouldn't even know how!" W\her VERY fake innocent face which totally comes off more angry, contemptuous, & condescending! But honestly, it came off as "Thou Doth Protest Too Much!" To me. That was how I took it. Side note: TMZ has VERY MUCH been Pro Amber Heard even in the shadiest scenes. & Amber Heard testified that Johnny Depp has the TMZ connection as well as Laura Wasser his divorce atty! So... The math is not making sense UNLESS you're Amber Heard!
Especially for them to have the copyright they would need the owners permission am I right? No way they can just claim it for no reason
Year later I’m still watching this and love Emily’s reaction 😂
Me too! "tURn On YoUr mIcRoPhoNe ElaaaIiinnNN!" 😂
@@ThunderellaAnd me! AH staring the jury down felt uncomfortable to me at the time, but it was my first trial. Several watches later and more trials later, and I actually feel embarrassed for Amber. If her lawyers were able to counsel her during the week court break about dates that didn't match up and the now famous Milani palate, then why on Earth did they not tell her to tone down the severe eye contact?!
Not Umbridge saying "I'm trying"... it made her seem like she wasn't prepared for redirect... made me feel awful knowing it
I think Umbridge is saying that to Amber because I think Amber wanted that in
Umbridge had what 2 hours to prepare for redirect??!! Supposedly she's a "seasoned" lawyer! Couldn't prove it by me🙄🤪🤦
@@keepingupwiththishotmess7304 Elaine knew that ENT record wasn't coming in. You need to have the doctor come in and testify. She was "trying" to staple custard to a wall.
I cannot believe Elaine mocked JD!! Just imagine if it was a man lawyer was mocking a female plaintiff… I’m over shocked 😮. I’m surprised the judge didn’t say anything! In France, no way you could have done it….
Did she actually say “No, I was calling him a baby for complaining I was barricading him in a door he was trying to get through” ?????
She’s actually insane
She's also claiming to be barricading a door that she admits swings towards johnny. Lol
@hailee.....what blew me away is when she started explaining how he was trying to force his way into the bathroom when the audio clearly shows it was the other way around.
How are her poor little toes though... poor baby.... NOPE. Brought it on yourself you psycho
I felt like she was claiming to call him a baby for the exact same reason the lawyer was stating but claimed it was different.
as someone with alcoholics in the family... being "strangely immune" to getting drunk is called tolerance
which happens when you drink. a lot. all the time.
Amber Heard: “I wanted nothing and I got nothing.” “It wasn’t about money, never was.”
Also Amber Heard: “I got a fraction of what I was entitled to in the state of California, by the way.”
Which is also not true - she would have been entitled to half his income and commonly acquired assets during the 15 months of marriage under CA law.
I’ve always wondered why she got so little TBH. Thought maybe it’s because she “didn’t want the money.” Now we know it’s because he had so much evidence of her abuse (plus he agreed to take on the $10mil in debt she racked up during the short marriage; that’s how much he was sick of her abuse, I guess).
She also got attorney fees, 7 million dollars tax free (14 million) and none of the community debt ( I heard 13.5 million). If he made 35 million she got more than half.
It was the "by the way" that did it for me.
Amber's smirky smile when her tweet about Waldman being short shows her true self. She Really thought that was & would be taken as a good thing. She was looking for people to agree that was a bullseye hit. My God she knows nothing about how what she has done has hurt Depp, her lies have Hurt Many People. She only wants a lil pat that she gave him a zinger. Pathetic, Amber is a mean selfish pathetic person.
I’m seeing a lot of discourse by people who genuinely believe Amber’s side that Camille did terribly today. They’re also really making a point about how unprofessional Camille hugging her team in some sort of victory lap, is unprofessional. She did this after the jury left.. and it’s her team congratulating her on a job well done. It was a really good cross.
I think Amber's supporters, much like herself, are delusional.
Anyone thinking Camille is doing a bad job has to be delusional lol she's killing this
@@viceb7 Especially when compared ro how Elaine does cross and redirect. Notice how she didn't get into a yelling match with Amber or ask repetitive questions? So much better.
Where did you see this? All I see are Johnny supporters and Camille supporters
It’s my understanding the mainstream media is 100% in support of Amber. 🤷🏼♀️
Did anyone notice that she calls Johnny "Babe". She even testified that he calls her "Kid" or "Slim". On the mirror in the Australian House the red lipstick 💄 writing had "Babe" at the end.
👀👀👀
Nice catch!
Yes!
Gooooood catch!!!!!!!
I love the comment about Johnnys team bursting through the door with last minute evidence…amazing to see that in real time with TMZ and Morgan Knight
And Kate Moss! Her description of how JD scooped her up after she fell and screamed in pain on the steps; and, then he laid her on the hotel bed and got her medical attention, totally made us see him as a good guy! Perfect response to AH’s staircase bs story. 😂
Here again and have to replay Emily’s reaction to the the TMZ slip up and the following drama. 👌🏻👌🏻 my favourite part of this whole trial.
It’s really sad she’s raising a child. That poor kid.
Makes me think of "Mommy dearest"
As someone who has a mother like this, the thought of this woman with a child is terrifying.
Hopefully it will be a nanny is my mother, child, because when is she home to take care of this kid?
Plus it might be Elon Musk who's the dad. That kid has zero chance of a normal life with 2 psychopaths for parents.
She'll need the r/raisedbynarcissists subreddit
As someone who is well versed in DV relationships, abusers tend to isolate their victim from friends and loved ones… not let every single one of their friends live in each of their homes, buy them gifts, and tell them they “love” them. Johnny’s generosity is the exact opposite
Absolutely agree. I was 100000% isolated from everyone. When he knew a family memeber or friend didn’t like him, I was forced out of their life and I didn’t listen, so it was a war zone at home until I just finally escaped and never looked back. It was terrifying. Im still stalked by him and my now husband is threatened and taunted by my ex 6 years later. In my experience, real abusers never let you go. Johnny is no sexual abuser.
I mean, she was incredibly clingy. In that voice clip where she begged Johnny not to go. It's obvious that he couldn't be distanced from his loved ones, think she felt they got more of his attention than she did.
But she would be pissed when he was with his friking kid an started arguments every time he was about to leave 🙄
This has not been highlighted enough. Abusers seek to isolate not surround you with your friends
I wish you would tag this to your Depp/Heard playlist. I listen to your commentary on the trial all the time and always have to hunt this video down.
Same 😭
One of the most interesting things in the cross was how AH claimed everyone else’s testimony was wrong or in error. I hope they bring back Shannon Curry to say this is a facet of the diagnosis she made regarding AH.
she did say externalisation of blame :/
"You accused him of being a baby for not wanting to be in a physical fight with you, right?"
"Incorrect. I accused him of being a baby for complaining about me hitting him when he was trying to get through the door I was trying to barricade."
...And then she turns to the jury and smiles.
SHE.
SMILES.
WHAT THE EVER-LOVING FUCK, WOMAN.
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
EDIT: I realize now (thanks to Dr. Kirk from Psychology in Seattle) that she was trying to say she was INSIDE, barricading the door to keep Depp out.
The reason for this confusion is obvious: we know from HER OWN WORDS on contemporaneous audio THAT IS NOT HOW THAT INCIDENT WENT DOWN.
Yeah… I wonder if the jury actually caught that….
@@caitlinkincaid1690 I'm sure there are a lot of things the jury has not picked up on, but I'd like to have confidence that AH unabashedly narrating a flagrant, textbook situation of abuse would not slip past them.
What I'd imagine they HAVEN'T picked up on is how it so perfectly fits with Dr. Anderson's testimony: that AH said being able to initiate a physical fight with JD was a point of pride to her.
@@theMMAdhatter Agreed. It’s honestly beyond disgusting to listen to, yet still has that awful “can’t look away from the wreck” hold, for me as someone who is a survivor of domestic abuse. I hope so strongly that the jurors are paying attention enough that at least one or two of them will catch these points. 🤞
Time stamp? I missed that!
@@angle577 29:20 👍
Did anyone else notice the clump of hair "ripped out of her head" was all blonde, but look at her hair in the photos she had darker roots. There were no dark roots on that clump. To me it looked cut then loosely dumped on the floor. And only ONE clump? I thought it was all over the place.
Yep! Just another aspect of her story that doesn’t add up or make sense.
STAGED
When I was in my abusive relationship with now ex-husband, he sometimes went off ranting. At the time, my 10 year old daughter and I would carefully sneak out. I remember trying to grab my purse, put my shoes on, and get my daughter without making ANY noise. My keys were the hardest because I was so afraid they would make a metallic jingle. My daughter and I would then drive to the local McDonalds and get ice cream cones. She would be wrapped in a blanket and have her stuffed dog Max. I can 100% say that I NEVER would have stood there filming. It makes no sense that Amber would stand there filming UNLESS Amber KNEW she was not in any danger from these rants of his.
Yup and what really makes zero sense is moving the camera around multiple times to get a better view. I would've been scared to record, but if I did I would've hidden it somewhere and left it. She kept moving it and then inserting herself by asking him questions. Never ever would that happen if you are scared of being hit. Then if I had ever been caught doing that I would've gotten knocked to the floor and my phone shattered. Abusive people are that way because they can't control their anger and react with violence. Johnny just tossed it in the trash, said bye while walking away and called her an ass 🤷♀️
I'm late but I want to say how sorry I am that you and your small daughter had to live in constant fear. Always remember you're a wonderful mother. I hope that both you and your daughter are safe and happy now. God Bless you.❤️❤️❤️
@@sekichdawn3913
Kindness is never too late. Thank you for the blessing. We are safe now. I was able to get out when she was 12.
She has a wonderful step-father now. She lived with me till she was 24, and just got her own place. She has a good job and a nice boyfriend.
Her father is a diminished and broken man that lost his family. We both have our struggles, but she and I are happy and safe.
@@hollycrocker923 That's a wonderful a to hear! 💖
I am so happy you are safe. You are so right! I have been in psychological abusive relationships- not even physical- and I was terrified to even text someone! I deleted all my texts to anyone. Record?? No way!
The way she looked down at him when she said she "survived that man and can look at him" was very... ominous. Not how I feel an SA survivor would look at the person responsible for their torment. Maybe I'm wrong....
You're not wrong. It takes a lot for a victim to look at their abuser in the eyes like that and even when they do you can see the pain or fear still behind their brave actions. Most don't or just partially look at them but don't hold it for long. What AH did was so full of anger, just that. No pain or a bit of fear.
Watching Emily yell at Elaine about how inept she is as a trial attorney, like I do at a football game when my team loses, is SO Fun! I want more of this! "DO IT RIGHT ELAINE!!!".
I'm not sure I can ever hear the name Elaine again without thinking of Emily's voice when Elaine bumbles things and she says "ELAINE!"
and there's an intonation to it as well.... move on ElAiNe
It's a whole vibe!!
I keep thinking of how Robin’s reactions to Patricia in how I met your mother. Like “do your job, Patricia!” “I wasn’t talking to you, Pat-tri-cia!
I haven't even gone to law school yet and I'M yelling at Elaine. She's woefully unprepared for a public trial of this caliber. I'm honestly curious why Amber chose her to be on her team.
I’m sure I’m not the only one, After watching so many of Emily’s videos I’ve starting to jump in with hearsay and leading and speculation and I feel very cool and fancy, so thankful for her knowledge, also I adore this community 🙌 the chat is filled with such amazing people ❤️
Also I can’t deal with caps either, I have never known anyone else who has an issue with it, I can’t write in caps without first writing in lower case and translating it 😄 it’s like a different language, when I was studying art, and creating posters and paint cap letters I had to have a children’s abc/ABC charts as reference, that really helped 👍
Oh also with the interrupting people thing, I do that too, I keep a notebook and write things that pop into my head down when I’m having long chats with people, stops me interrupting haha maybe these things will help others 😉
my husband thinks I'm nuts 🤣 I kept saying , 'we were watching' 'we have inside people at court's etc. lmao husband kept asking 'who is we?' 'is there a community,you all watching together??' 😅😂😂
Then as soon as the break starts, I start singing the tiktok country song made up for the trial, " objection hearrrrsaaayyy" 🤠. 😂
Me toooo, LOL 😂 “Objection!!!” “Hear-Say!!”
Emily having a full on lawgasm from the TMZ slip up still gives me life.
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I still come back and watch it once in a while when I need a giggle. It was the most hilarious moments of my life.
Lawgasm 😂😂😂 a new word for the dictionary
So her divorce depo was 3 months after her filing, so pretty fresh in her mind. She said, “I had filed or was GOING to file…or I had the intention to do so…” So she not only admitted she alerted TMZ, but admitted they were alerted BEFORE she even submitted the divorce paperwork.
But that TMZ slip from AH's deposition! OMG!!!! The extended video clip you can find online shows her absolute horror in the aftermath of that slip up. It's the only time I've seen her turn red and completely lose her composure. WOWZERS!
Could you share a link?
Yes please i would like a link too!
what should i search for online to find it ?
@@haleyjadelovethatname just look up Amber hearts deposition. I believe 2016. It’s when she’s lot younger and thinner/ prettier.
@@aritin5259 Sorry but I just searched somewhere on Instagram. I think a Google search for her 2016 deposition should do the trick, too.
“I hit you instinctively” is a massive difference then “I hit in self defense”
If your instinct is to hit someone in the face when under the context they ACCIDENTALLY hit your toes with a door while they are trying to keep you out then you hit more often than just self defense if it’s an instinct.
Also that pain registered but not getting punched, slapped, or walking through glass.
Yes! Also kicking/pushing the door away from you if it hurts your foot is an instinctive move, but then punching JD in the jaw is so over the top! If that is truly her instinct, that says quite a lot about her and if it's not, then it was deliberate.
@@ada_pink from what I understand from that story she tried to open the door, it hit him, he pushed the door back, it hit her foot, she punched him.
Like…I am trying to imagine if that happened to me and my husband…all of it make sense until the punch. Sometimes you open to door on someone and they push it back closed…something a part of you can get hurt. I would NEVER thing to hit someone because of something like that. That was the first actual violence in the whole encounter…not all injuries are violence.
@@sallycinnamon5370 the sequence according to Johnny and from the recording was Amber knocked on the door, Johnny cracked it open a bit, Amber was trying to shove the door open more and shove her way in, Johnny pushed the door back to stop her and it accidentally squished her toes, Johnny realized so he stopped and was bending down to check her toes and she pushed the door edge into his head and when he got back up and reacted in shock, she punched him. Makes it even more mental
@@theConquerersMama or being violated by a bottle
This trial is my favorite ASMR. I grew up with a mom and older sister with diagnosed but untreated borderline. I find Camille’s cross and Emily’s commentary soothing and healing. The community Emily has created is an amazing group of supportive, intelligent, funny people. I hope this ‘community of unity’ takes over the whole internet! You have your mission…….Law Nerds, Ride!
Exact same here, just only older sister is borderline and untreated. This trial is an eye opener for me, and also cathartic 😂
Camille's facial expressions during Amber's re-direct are gold. She is so done with Umbridge 🤣🤣
I can't believe how many Partner Attorneys from Brown-Rudnick are actually in Court each day! Ben Chew, Wayne Dennison in the front row gallery, and Rebecca beside Depp are all Partners! Then you add the Associate Attorneys I counted 5 today. Johnny is paying a small Fortune each day to his legal team. Well worth every penny, but it shows how those innocent who are accused may not get out of someone lying about them. I'm glad Depp has the money to pay for his defense of her "outlandish" lies about him. He got his money's worth whatever he paid. Brown-Rudnick has the best Attorneys Teamwork I have ever seen. Bravo to Jessica & Sam Who know Heard's testimony as well as Camille And to Tom for the tech work. Ben assembled a great team and they each had their tasks done perfectly.
The Audio where she starts calling him a baby and admits to hitting him is the worst, it stands out so much.
That one and the “tell the world” one…I swear those both play on a loop in my brain every time I see her face!
Yes! It’s so clear to me seeing that berating abusive tactic she employs. She is obviously tragically phobic of abandonment as well which is common with narcissistic abusers.
ALL of her audios are insaaaane. the laughing one today gave me chills fr
More telling is when she admits to starting physical fights . She’s snarky and mean
I love the fact that when Mr Depp was testifying, Rottenborn said “we don’t need to waste the court’s time with your extended answers”-then his own client takes the stand, gives long answers, and destroys everything her attorneys tried to do 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 Take that, Rottenborn!
Lmao so true!!
Now after watching more, I believe its only because he didnt want to waste HIS time on Johnnys answers. Because the longer they were talking with Johnny, the less time they have for other things.
It was so rude and should have been pointed out by the Judge.
Runkle of the Bailey knew what he was talking about. AH showed her Johnny face to the court. She just couldn't help herself.
1:17:19 Yes your honour! Yes!
1:19:26 I’m trying, I’m trying (sigh)
1:35:31 😫😩 your honour said I could redirect 😭
“Your honor, I object”
“On what grounds?
“Because it’s devastating to my case!”
One of the funniest lines in one of the funniest movies.
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My kids and I love that movie and one of our fave lines is 'I'm kickin my ass, do ya mind?'
But yours isn't the only reference to this movie to be found in this trial. lolz
The goddamn pen is blue
I’ve had better!
It's SO weird how when she's trying to look really upset she still looks at the jury out of the corner of her eye to see if they're watching her.
She’s a total creep. I just commented that even from the defense table she’s eye fucking the jury. I am starting to feel badly for her attorneys. She’s really messing them up. She’s disgusting.
I know, also the whoa is me look makes me sick.
@@eeviegrl5051 lol woe but yesss
Even when she tries to look sad you can still see anger, scorn & disgust in her facial expressions. For an actress she can't really hide her true feelings well.
@@loriburnip that’s what shocks me the most… I watch a lot of trials and “regular “ people (non actors) can act or lie better than her… an actual actress. It’s so bad there are hundreds of memes made about it- it’s mind boggling!!
Okay, maybe my fourth time watching back and have only just noticed the EXCELLENT sassy precursor from Camille at @56:07 - “if I can alert you” - JUST LIKE YOU ALERTED TMZ!
Also, Josh drew went from chef to director of a restaurant in 2016 when he gave a deposition for amber. Then he went from director to vice president to Principal of his own company all within 2019 when he gave his 2nd deposition for amber. The new company was started in October 2019.
He says he met with amber 2 months before the deposition in November, so that would be September. Magically within a month of meeting her, he's starting a new business. I just find that so interesting how those times line up perfectly 🤔
One point that I don't think gets enough attention is that in the hitting/toe scrape incident, it's actually Johnny who barricaded himself in the bathroom to try to shield himself from Amber's abuse, not vice versa. Amber represents the incident as if she is trying to hide in the bathroom to get away from Johnny, but if you pay careful attention to the details, it is clear that he was trying to hide from her.
Yeah, doors swing in & he was hit in the head with the door when she kicked it open. He was obviously the one in the bathroom. Her lies are ludicrous.
Yeah, I wish they went into more detail about the door. They could've asked about which way the door swings to make it obvious.
Yes, Amber reverses Johnny and her roles in her stories. It does not work because she ends up confusing who was trying to get in and out. The lawyer points out that he was trying to get away from her; trying to keep her out. Even though that's what the audio clearly shows, Amber cannot admit it's her chasing Johnny - because it would prove she was the aggressor.
Apparently according to amber, johnny would hide then after a while turn into the "monster" so she thought ahead and barricade him for her safety instead? Her story is so ass backwards you need to jump many hoops for it to make some sort of sense
@@BornInsane0 No she wouldn't barricade him in. She was trying to get him to come out, not stay in.
I believe that when Elaine said “I’m trying here”….. when she was about to fold, was her telling AH that she is really trying to get what AMBER demanded she get in. You could tell that Amber was trying to squeeze in what she wanted anyway but the court and Camille shut that down!!! ;)
I really feel bad for her. Imagine having AH as your client. 😣
I was wondering when they were going to hush her up, over speaking.
@@MadeByChinkee Yeah, she doesn't appear to be a great lawyer but then again... its probably not fair to judge her on this case alone considering how impossible her task and clients are!
I don’t feel sorry for Elaine after she had the audacity to mock Johnny Depp, not at all.
Amber has no clue .
Rewatching the trial and I’m dying over Emily saying “Elaine is going to have kittens over this” 😂😂😂😂 I had forgot about Emily saying this 😭
Johnny seems the only one really open about his drinking/drug use. Amber, Io, and others say "I wasn't drunk" but one has to wonder how accurate that self-assessment is.
iO told ppl AH was vehemently against cocaine when she admitted to using cocaine yesterday and basically teach the whole court how to use cocaine💀
Elaine straight up MOCKED JD, in court.... in front of everyone, "You will not see my eyes again." JD is the G.O.A.T, a living LEGEND, I tell you... the grin across his face after she grumbled. Lol. Elaine, Elaine, tsk, tsk.
Between Amber not waiting for the jury and the judge or even HER OWN counsel to leave the courtroom, and her lawyer mocking Johnny in the middle of her redirect, I’d say they deserve each other.
Did anyone notice that Amber controlled herself by “taking on character of Dr Curry?” She even started using phrases ~’no, that is not correct.’
Oh true now i remember where I heard that
Whitney was Dr. Curry, too, the other day. Her witnesses are copies of JD's, in case anyone is having deja vu. Alejandro/Hifro Carinno/Rocky, etc. It's creepy AF
@@tgoodall6817 It certainly is creepy and that could be used strategically by either side. But I quite like the idea that Amber Heard's team (inc. witnesses) is the shadow side of Johnny Depp's team.
@@hazelangus The dark side. Lol Star Wars revisited.
Yes!
I don’t understand how the court reporter can keep all this straight. Gold stars to her!! ⭐️⭐️⭐️
esp since everything that is deemed objection everything said after struck, but the jury already heard it.
She is the real hero
OPEN SECRET:
Stenography is like CAVE DRAWINGS.
Super-Illegally inaccurate, almost always.
Like every other atom of our govt, it's a LIE AND A FARCE.
EX:
in criminal cases, The Empire are the ones who benefit if the HISTORICAL RECORD of the trial is sloppy, bc THAT transcript is the MAIN HOPE of the innocent person appealing after being framed for being black or poor or both.
EX:
in one case I handled, the "HISTORICAL RECORD" said my client said he wanted to "ELEVATE" the conflict.....when he clearly said "alleviate"!
BIT different in meaning, right?
That crap happens in every trial and hearing......galore.
It's double-illegal: very expensive, very inaccurate. (Many courts were forced to switch to RECORDING trials and hearings. I'm shocked this one is still using cave drawings.)
IS THIS TRIAL IN LA OR VIRGINIA??
Court reporters are on a different level
Ah, according to Dr Sloppy she got her testimony wrong...
AH is just repeatedly outing herself for who she really is, and Cammille is doing an amazing job by allowing her to do that to herself.
Yes, AH outed herself to really be a victim of domestic violence who had to put up with a completely crazy junkie, high as a kite daily, who claimed more than once that she and her friend shat on his pillow and his sheets, while he would soil himself almost weekly and his staff left to clean him up. Try and live with that. The man is a total nightmare.
And you could tell she knew she slipped up as soon as she said it.
Exactly
@@space-cadett I have lived with that, and I know a liar and a victim when I see one.
@@zoeo9742 Many judges and lawyers specialising in abuse victim would agree that Amber shows all telltale signs of abuse victim. Depp is very manipulative and he's got a loooong rap sheet of assault that ended in court complaints. Doesn't mean he doesn't have his good days of course, but he's still a violent, unpredictable and out of control junkie. He's espunged most of the court records.... they can do that.
Thank you Johnny for standing up to this. It's not easy at all to expose yourself like this.
I rewatch this cross when I need a laugh from Emily! It's been almost a year and I FRICKEN LOVE this cross! Thank you EDB for the enthusiasm!
Why does she keep saying she wouldn't know how to leak to TMZ? They literally have a web site with a big red button saying "Got a tip?" and then contact info. I mean, it's the internet age. Amber Heard - "I don't know how I would do that?" Seriously?!🤨
It's funny how stupid she pretend to be, or I guess how stupid she thinks everyone else is to believe her.
Especially when she kept saying "retweet" any jury who knows twitter knows it wasn't retweet.
JD smirking when umbridge mocked him is great! He knows what we know which is that low blows & mocking is all AH team have left.
I feel like the audio about her kicking the door into his head is getting seriously confused due to Amber's gaslighting. The audio clearly says he was hiding in a bathroom where she was knocking on the door. He finally opened it and she started trying to fight more so he tried to close the door. That's when she pushed herself into the door because that's the only way it scrapes her toes. Then he bends down to check on her hurt toes and she kicks the door open into his head then punches him in the jaw.
Amber then masterfully gaslights everyone by saying SHE was hiding in a room and he was trying to get in when the whole interaction happened. She just completely lies despite agreeing with him on the recording. She doesn't even say that johnny was wrong, she just pretends it says something else! It's insane!
You fanning yourself with the rules of evidence after AH opened the door to DV against her ex-partner is such a chismosa auntie move. I love it
😂😂😂 so true
When Camille was asking her about JD getting her the Aquaman role it was the only time she didn't look at the jury, and was also the first time she looked like she had 100% belief in her words. She went to look at Jurry and then snapped her head back so fast in a "how dare you" look.
I love how Camille kind of giggle/smirked after Amber responded. Definitely got under her skin with that one.
@@snowyowl1369 yes she had the BEST smirk- It was a nobody believes that , you don’t even believe that 🤣
Yeah! The only times when she has shown genuine emotions is when she is defending herself about being a liar, gold digger or having a career because of Johnny.
well to be fair, that would be kind of infuriating for anyone to hear, especially for a woman, when you have worked so hard for something only to have someone credit themselves for your success... It was the only point where I thought Camille might have gone too far.. unless ofcourse they have proof of that allegation.... but they haven't really shown any proof of it yet...so I was confused why she said it... but yea, normally I'm on Camille's side, I think she is fabulous, just in that moment I wasn't very impressed..
@@EricaPapad I think maybe it was a strategy to bring out the “real” Amber , and Johnny often said she was only good for her looks.. they wanted to rattle her cage a bit, a little low blow yes. To also be fair she GOT to audition because of him , Hollywood is about connections.. she got the opportunity because of him
During the lunch break, I made myself leave the house to get a mani-pedi, in the chair behind me I hear Emily’s voice. I turned around to confirm she, too, was watching Emily’s coverage. We had a nice little recap :-) so much for taking a break from the case! Thank you for such great commentary
That’s freaking awesome
1:00:05 is by far one of the best moments ever. In. Well ever, to be honest.
Her mouth covering to immediate self grooming For comfort is so classical behavior-response for how scared she was in slipping up the way she did. It’s perfection.
Agreed! When I first saw that my jaw dropped like so many others. It was a wonderful clip that honestly fills me with joy to see how AH absolutely fucked herself over lmao
Amber’s loose lips sunk her ship! 🫠 Reminds me of the wicked witch on Wizard of Oz. “I’m melting!! I’m melting!!
How on earth a 2009 article get planted by JD team?
Why have I not seen anything mentioned about this? I feel like this was such a massive slip-up on her part:
1:00:36 -
“If I wanted to leak things about Johnny, I could have done that in a much more successful way, in a bigger way. For years.”
I feel like most of my life since I discovered Johnny in POTC at like age 12 (now 31), I never really saw much of Johnny in tabloids, gossip magazines, or on gossip sites… Cuz he’s always been pretty quiet post-90s… I’m sure there were some pap shots that would make it into those things on occasion, but never anything scandalous outside of the 90s.
When he got involved with Amber, all of a sudden there was almost always something in there or on the covers about him. It’s something I never really thought of but it suddenly dawned on me over the course of the trial.
And I thank Rottenborn for bringing attention to this for me during his cross on Johnny when reading all those negative headlines. They’re all from his time with Amber and afterwards. I’m kind of amazed this was something that didn’t come up on cross, even if just briefly to shine a spotlight on that.
I almost feel like when she got cut off while saying “for years” (to make way for the extortion question from Camille) , that she could have potentially led to her outing herself further… possibly in the direction of leaking info to tabloids & such.
I’m open to this possibly being me stretching. I just… The headlines highlighting on Johnny’s cross really got me suspicious about timing of those things.
What IF ANYTHING can make Elaine turn on her mic? What IF ANYTHING can make Elaine ask a non-leading question? I can’t. Lol
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The one thing that I find really weird about the whole situation of the marriage is that JD facilitated AH’s friends being so close. He gave them free places to stay in proximity to AH. He invited them to a go with them to the island.
Generally an abuser will try to distance their victims from their supports. They alienate their family and friends and set boundaries on their friendships. They don’t invite them to live in adjacent penthouses and nearby homes…
They react more with the resentment that AH showed when she got upset because JD was out later than he said he would be at his friends house. Or upset that they are leaving their presence to go and be with someone else…even their children. Like when AH framed out on JD leaving her presence to go be with his daughter and potentially friends inside his studio.
In all their testimony there has not been any evidence or even an allegation that JD ever alienated her from her friends. In fact all of these big relationships seem to have been distanced AFTER the relationship ended. Which i find very interesting? She isn’t friends with ANYONE that was with her 5 years ago. So weird.
She even tried to explain his generosity and his sharing of homes etc by saying he was grooming her and her family 🙄 which is completely just untrue as he has always done stuff like that apparently
Ahhh! That’s the perfect break down! I’m so glad you posted this comment! You’re absolutely correct! I am totally thankful for you!
He was isolated, wouldn’t even let him see his daughter. It’s so sad & controlling.
@@katty5003I feel like Rocky and her friends realized the lengths Amber would go to ruin Johnny were beyond belief, mind numbing and criminal, and in the end, they just couldn’t be a part of it all any longer. It’s possible she even threatened them unless they cooperated with her.
I always wondered if her ex friends testified on her behalf during this trial because they had done so in better times during the UK trial. Maybe they felt stuck repeating their testimony. They're probably trying to convince themselves they're not terrible people for enabling an abuser. Hindsight is 20/20 and I'm sure they see Amber's bullshit now.
1:26:26 You can see JDs body guards struggling to stifle a laughing fit from the ridiculous amount of sustained objections, one of them actually has to excuse themself from court. That's what everyone was looking at Emily
IO just said exactly what Amber said about Johnny. "Johnny was magical and wonder and imaginative..."
That stuck out to me
EDIT: Now another witness has used the same words. These words aren't common like friendly, generous, funny. This is very odd
As soon as he said "magical" I spit out my coffee. Parrot much?
He will know only what she told him
@@shaguftamoid8297 100 percent. I like him and I think his heart is in the right place. But he doesn't want to believe someone would lie about this.
@@shaguftamoid8297 Yes, but he spent time with Johnny. He could have used his own words and experience. Ghe fact that he and Amber used the same words is odd
Just so everyone know, IO Tilly is a horrible person. He manipulated and photograph underage Lily Rose without Johnny or her mother permissions which is why Johnny cut him off. He also talked about her sexuality, outing her. Lily was highly upset about the entire thing, which irritated and made Depp take action...
Thank you for making this known.
Agree. He's shady
@@asd7400 I was shocked he said he worked for the NYT.
He came off like a meth dealer in an alleyway!
BRING BACK FERNANDO (?).....the Doorman who vaped DURING testimony and then drove off in protest!!!
I could tell something weird was up!
His testimony is definitely a game changer.
Rewatching this now after the unsealing, it's interesting to hear you point out that Elaine might not trust her team, judging by the state of their exhibits.
Seems like it lines up with those emails where it's mentioned that she didn't give her team the okay to negotiate at meetings without her.
The moment where Elaine mocks Depp's voice is one of the most outrageous moments to me. During this whole trial as pictures of Depp hurt and his cut finger and the audios with Amber mocking him or being controlling toward him came to light the thing that kept ringing in my head was "What if the genders were reversed?", over and over. Imagine if a male lawyer did a high pitched voice while reading testimony from a female witness, just imagine for a moment the reaction to that. Gender Equality folks! It's a thing, it exists, we should respect it. If the genders of the litigants were reversed just one of those audios or those photos would be enough to put Depp in jail.
Yep, exactly.
Very unprofessional IMAO.
Agreed!
Someone on CZcams did that male read amber statements , an woman read Johnny's
I interpreted Ms. Vasquez raising that Mr. Depp won't look at her to demonstrate when he said something, he followed through with it. Whereas when AH said something (like that she had donated every penny of the divorce settlement), she did not follow through. My ex has NPD and I see AH exhibiting many of the same behaviours. She repeatedly projects her behaviour onto Mr. Depp. Among other things, she accused him of abuse when she herself appears guilty of this and without any basis accuses him of conducting a smear campaign when it is looking like she is the one who leaked potentially damaging information with strategic timing.
I think that was probably added to address the press statement that Amber’s PR released which had something along the lines of “he’s so guilty he can’t even look her in the face” and also to let the jury know that the reason he won’t look at her is because of that promise he made and not because he feels ashamed.
IO was convincing me until 2:43:43 when he contradicted himself saying " he doesn't hold secrets or lies for anybody" going directly against when he said that he would respect both of their "privacies" and not snitch.
He lost me at his job history recall.
@@MauiBodyworker - I think I worked for the times 😂. Maybe I wrote 2 or 3 books. Maybe those are explainable, but geeze.
Did they really want to insinuate Johnny's team leak stuff and alerted TMZ about his own bad press just because his lawyer's connections...
and somehow iO tillet knew about TMZ's involvement but poor litel amber didn't know anything about it...she just slipped up by mistake.
Just one of the many lies Amber told. She was caught red handed she should have just admitted that one of her team or her sister leaked it. Clearly she’s the copyright holder and this just made her look absolutely ridiculous. Then to insinuate that Johnny’s team leaked it made them look worse. My thoughts have always been that Amber choose Elaine as lead council because she could control her, I mean how many post it notes were passed during that trial? I’m just Happy Johnny was vindicated, and Amber has been shown to be the gold-digging, lair and blackmailer she really is.
Emily is so sweet helping her fellow Lawtubers especially Runkle. He's so adorable. I can feel good vibes from this person.
Dr. Curry's assessment of Amber was spot on. As a therapist myself, I have treated individuals in private practice and in a hospital setting with BPD and other personality pathology. The behaviors, speech pattern is very similar, the dramatic and flowery language, lack of insight and inability to accept responsibility due to the lack of insight. I might have to do a video on this testimony. The audio really demonstrates the BPD abandonment fears.
Inability to sustain a long term relationship, promiscuity…
I know you're obviously a professional, and you're used to patients like that.
But do you ever get creeped out by their behaviour? Or are you at the point of 🤷🏾♂️.
@@natsohigh5552 I am not creeped out. I oscillate between being fascinated and being at the point of *shrugs* Sometimes the work can get overwhelming and you feel yourself becoming numb and not caring. At those times, it's important for me to take a break so that I can still be compassionate. I see why Johnny always needed space though!
I think the moment you hear Elaine say, “I am trying” with so much frustration made me feel sorry for her. Her Client is difficult. If she’s so combative with Johnny even with Camille, you can’t imagine how she is with her lawyers behind the cameras and juries. There is empathy for Elaine having to make the impossible for the Client.
Truth is Amber is losing this for 2 reasons. 1 - she doesn’t want to let the lawyers drive the proceedings instead she felt she could do better and then she drives the case towards the brick wall. It is frustrating. Just because she been to trials and won several times in the past doesn’t mean she’s now smarter than her lawyers. But she thinks so. 2 - She has lost public and media support that could otherwise provide the benefit of doubt for the allegations (of defamation) like what she enjoyed in the past (with the divorce etc). Now she’s not just being opposed in court but rather by the whole world. She did it to herself because she choose to be arrogant and decided to throw everyone under the bus including those who are there supporting her through this trial.
Whatever the outcome is in court - she has lost because of these 2 factors, especially her reputation as a credible person of integrity which is important to sustain oneself in the industry. Unfortunately AH doesn’t see that. She sees it as her weak representations in court. She sees it as everyone failing her.
The truth is Amber is losing because Amber is lying.
I do feel the same way, even felt bad for AH for the first time. She's done everywhere, the world sees her lies and her ship keeps to sink every time she speaks more and more..
Yes, I imagine Elaine and her team thought it was an easy and sure win. Prior judgement in Amber's favour, Amber says she has audio/video, Amber is the woman so it's considered more likely she's the victim. Then you get into this trial, and you're dealing with the fact her own evidence makes her look terrible, and then you're dealing with her and she seems a bit of a nightmare, and by this point you're probably exhausted of the while thing but you've just got to keep going.
AH Lawyers tactics were nasty, rude and disrepectful, but being AH lawyer and doing there job looks like an absolute burden for them...now.
Respectfully, I don’t feel bad for her in the slightest. Wayyyy to much of the condescending tone and overall mockery of this entire situation. I truly get a lil angry when she talks for a long time.
I love the way EDB says 'Elaine'. She's turned it into one of her 'Cursey words'. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
iO was straight to the point with excellent recall on ALL the other questions, yet when it got to the "incident" he adds a TON of exposition and can't quite remember it all with clarity. He also sits way back in his chair and goes into storytime mode. He's rehearsed this in his head countless numbers of times and he knows this is the final time he'll have to go over it. No, they're not friends anymore, but he's trapped in this story because he's defended it so rigorously over the years. He either jumps ship now and admits they concocted the story, which would bring so much heat down upon him that he'd be buried in hate for eternity, or he continues with their little charade due to self-presevation. He had "explanations" for all the inconsistencies that have been found in their little story because he's had time to revise his statement as the years have gone on. I don't believe him for a second on that particular incident.
I don't/didn't/will never believe that lying snake.
My 40 yr old daughter is/has BPD and AH’s behavior is so triggering. Two books to read are “Walking on Eggshells” and “I Hate You, Don’t Leave Me”. It so hard to live with a BPD -they won’t admit having it and won’t get help. Sadly it ends up being the loved ones seeking counseling.
I hate you don't leave me is great. I will say, there's hope for BPD. I've been diagnosed for years, and it's possible to take accountability and achieve fantastic results with therapy. I know it's so hard, and can be so exhausting. My thoughts are with you and your daughter, it's a long road but it isn't hopeless, I promise!
@@RiggedUpWitchery thanks Mary. I have to say that as she has gotten older there has been a slight improvement plus my younger daughter and I have learned not to poke the bear
@@sueprice6519 age does reduce the emotional volatility. Stress reduction and slow living is very important. There is hope...things will get better if you love her openly with good boundaries for yourself.
I think this happened with CZcamsr Chase Ross when his best friend quit their podcast after he guilt tripped him (the friend) who was just starting his own channel. Chase at the time was undiagnosed BUT he knew that he might have BPD.
Wow I have a close family member who has escalated in terms of unwell indicative behaviour, while under isolation last 5 days for covid. This person has had psychosis and twice been admitted for over a month usually around this time of year but not last year. She is escalating currently and a lot if it is flame throwing behaviour/ inappropriate reaction to others / inappropriate social media presence/ including defamation behaviour against several people named including family...I'm watching this and it worries me my family member is undiagnosed borderline personality disorder so much is relevant- a huge concern 😟
I am going to find these books thank you
I was violently sexually assaulted through the ages of 5 - 10. I never want to see this man again. I would never want to see his face or hear his voice. If I was in court with him, I would be extremely uncomfortable and never look at him. The idea of seeing his face again or locking eyes with him is revolting. For her to stare him down this whole time is bizarre.
I am very very sorry for what you went through.
I once had my molester come into my line while I was a cashier (he of course came straight to my line....with two small kids in the cart right around the ages I was during the abuse) and, despite normally leaning toward "fight" in my fight or flight response, I absolutely froze. Thankfully I had a wonderful older man as my front store manager and he was very protective of all of us younger female employees (I was around 18) and he noticed something was wrong because I just stood there unable to move. He took me away from my line into the small room where we counted our tills and asked me what was wrong and I told him the truth and he, someone who NEVER ran registers, left me there while he went out and checked his stuff out, only coming to get me when my former step dad was gone. I have had many moments of being around horrible people who abused me throughout my childhood, teen years, and even one very abusive relationship as an adult but nothing ever quite like that. So, while I genuinely hope you are NEVER in that situation, I certainly don't think you would be all but begging him to acknowledge you the way Amber is with Johnny. No, that's what an abuser does, in my opinion. Still trying to keep that damn control over you.
Agreed! Also don't think that my abusers ever felt guilt and 'couldn't' look at me.
She's a bully. I imagine her chasing him around the house demanding he look at her.🙄
Same. The person who assaulted me went to court for another assault and they asked me to come support and I couldn't do it. I had a panic attack thinking about it. But some people react differently to be fair.
@Danielle....what's your take on all the audio and testimony that has Johnny leaving or "running away" whenever the argument gets to heated? I found that interesting behavior for such an "abusive person".
I also want to know why the bottle he supposedly sexually assaulted her with had no blood on it in the picture taken the next morning? She testified he assaulted her after he had his fingertip severed. Pretty sure there would be blood everywhere.
I am surprised the judge has been so patient. Typically judges expect you to know how to do you job when you show up in front of the court.
Io got kicked out for posting a pic of Lily Rose on his insta inferring she was coming out as lesbian without her or her parents knowledge or permission. She was 15
The phrase "What if anything" is forever going to trigger me every time I hear it... Thanks a lot ELAINE!!!
I don't understand how a high paid lawyer can break the rules so many times without any punishments???
I can't help but feel for her. I think she's getting really flustered by the cross and getting thrown under the bus and it's getting to her.
Every time Elaine said "Vaz-kwez" a year was taken off my life
Just imagine if a female victim was mocked like Elaine mocked him.
He smiled but it was more sad & uncomfortable then anything.
Camille & team have his back. That made me want them to just protect him.
Why he won’t look at u? The victim finds it hard to look at their abuser, the victim has their head down to process & sooth, they don’t want to give anymore power then she already took. Whilst the perpetrator stares with glee, smirks, & looks on with intimidation.