Overcoming DARTITIS - My Top 5 Tips
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- In this video I discuss my prior issues with dartitis and offer my top 5 tips to help others overcome it. Enjoy the video and please leave a thumbs up!
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00:00 Intro
00:05 Bullseyes
00:24 Video Description
02:45 First Tip
05:25 Second Tip
07:28 Third & Fourth Tips
07:50 BOOM
10:28 5th Tip
13:12 Outro - Sport
Thank you for posting this. I stopped throwing about 3 years ago because of dartitis. It took all the joy out of something I really enjoyed. I hope this helps people get back to throwing!
Love this video, thanks so much for it. I’ve gone from having a “textbook throw” (words of local dartshop guy) to the dreaded dartitis exactly as you described it. These are excellent tips and as with other types of therapy, just having someone talking about it and realizing lots of others are in the same boat helps a lot before even getting down to trying the tips. There’s various little exercises that are working a bit for me that some of the others commenting here have mentioned, but I think as much as anything the “good attitude” you called out as tip 5 is key for me: I need to always remember that I love to play and to enjoy it and have fun - then good things happen. All the best.
Update, 2 months later: I seem to have overcome dartitis. What worked for me was to close my eyes and throw for a long time (couple of hours a day, for 2-3 days), focusing only on the mechanics of the throw (keep arm and elbow up and straight, smooth throw after sighting, clean follow-through). Basically getting the muscle memory back. After a couple of days, started opening the eyes, but looking underneath the dartboard, so I can vaguely see the board with peripheral vision only. Never trying to hit a particular target, just again focusing on good technique. Next, after a couple of days, look at the target I want to hit before throwing but then look down under the board just before I throw. Another couple of days, then finally, back to almost normal: sight the target, focus on mechanics, throw. I’ve changed things up a little in that I don’t grip the darts as tightly, comes out the hand easier. Nice to be back playing regularly again!
Thanks a lot for creating this video. I came across this video about 2 years ago when I was starting to play darts. I got to know your channel, the one of EdgarTV and TheDartsReferee. I was hoping that I never had to re-watch this video but sadly enough today was the day. I felt it coming for a month or 5 but changing my pace always seemed to help (when I started to get it, I threw with a "pre-action" is should call it. When I felt it coming I threw faster, like Bully Boy for example. And vice versa) but today nothing seemed to work and while aiming at D13 I completely froze. Took me a good 3 minutes to finally miss the target. I used the tip of the darkness and it seemed to help straight away. My darts went almost perfectly to the board, (almost) no dartitis at all visible. I put on the lights of my dartboard slightly (I use a dimmer) and it also helped.
Another tip that seems to help me is to close my eyes right before I throw the first dart, throw the 2nd also with my eyes closed and open them right before I throw the 3rd. When comfortable, open them at the 2nd dart.
It's about the same as the darkness strategy, but it slightly builds up to the normal way of playing.
But thanks a lot for the tips, I hope this helps me to get over it (mainly because I finally was throwing some more than decent averages on a daily basis)
Oh man! I wouldn't wish dartitis on anyone. Sorry to read this. I hope you're able to overcome it and start playing at your high standard again. All the best with it. Be patient. There's going to be good days and bad ones.
Mensur is a greatest 'dartitis-struck' player ever. Gets hit by it, overcomes it, physically and mentally, and came out of the other end somehow an even better darts player.
I wish I would have remembered to mention him. He's a great current example.
Thanks for the tips. Very useful, and I strongly agree regarding the mindset.
What helped me was committing to a quick fluid rhythm that's always the same.
When setting up a shot I try to throw more like Smith or Klassen, than Wright, rhythm wise.
As soon as I feel my arm resisting, I try to forget about that I'm throwing Darts at all, and I only focus on my triceps and I try to overcome the stuckness before it gets too bad, so if I'm quicker than the blockade, I get the arm going.
Also helpful for me was throwing a bucket of all my ~20 sets of Darts at one go, while not caring where they go, and just focusing on the rhythm.
I used to have dartitis for a short bit, I always tell people to shorten their back lift on their throw (kinda like Devon Peterson). It takes a bit of getting used to, but it helped for most of the people who I told this. If you think about it, it makes sense, since that’s where most people get stuck and pretty much everyone who had dartitis has a pretty big back lift
Thank you for sharing your experience. When you change the weight/grip with a new dart your brain has to reconfigure the variables needed to throw. It's like putting a new set of sheets on your bed.....same old bed but it just feels different. You change things up a bit and it becomes a new experience. Great video on an important subject.
Thanks a lot for the tips...
Great video. I've been facing a slump for about 3 months now and affecting my confidence even with coaching other newcomers. Getting worried as well because I'm a month away from 2 important leagues. Was 90 avg and now 50. I even had a 20 last night and so I suspect its dartitis and no amount of training I did got better. I really would try your tips
OMG ! I thought i was the only one who struggled woth it. I havent shot in 15 years because of it. I called it the Ipps. Now that im shooting again I’ll keep these tips in my back pocket ! Thank you
Good to hear you're back throwing. 👍
Plus that I've had my right shoulder repaired two times. When that didn't work it was replaced. Going to start playing again tomorrow
Awesome video. I have never heard of Dartitis
i wish i saw this video sooner. been dealing with dartitis probably around the time you made this video. i still deal with it to this day. many times i have wanted to quit the game but i also dont wanna give up something i love doing and live by. i hope this helps me and hopefully not put them away
Be patient but I think some of these tips will help. Best of luck 👍🏻
Excellent advice and viewing that fella, i was floored when you said "you had it" the way you chuck darts your an excellent and very good dart player. Have had for years now, don't get me wrong i can throw darts now, which are not to bad at all. Thank God, but have still got a stutter in my throwing, that's the only way i can explain it. With what am lefted with having it me self. When I first had it wow i had bad, but now have got just a shutter in me throw and am just not as flow'ie as i was at one time. But am going to try your advice definitely m8 any advice is well appreciated because I have tried all sorts of things to get rid of this stutter in my throwing but nothing works away again excellent stuff for the advice m8e keep up the great videos you do there excellent viewing fella cheers 👏😎👍🎯🎯
Very informative brother sounds like it will help a lot of people two thumbs up to you for doing this video👍👍
Thanks 👍
Brilliant video, thanks for sharing 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
I love your throw wwd one of my favourites! It's like your action is like pinball machine and then you fling and release. While it can look jacked up but once I heard the back story it's actually a work of art! Same with mensur suljovic too. I was thinking of dartitis lately when the usa gymnast girl had a gymnastics version of dartitis!
Thanks Anthony. First I've ever heard of it with gymnastics. I've seen CZcams videos of it affecting golfers called yips. I've also seen it cause problems with baseball catchers where they can't throw the ball back. It's strange for sure!
I used to suffer with dartitis to a lesser degree but still extremely frustrating to say the least, after throwing my first fairly well my second wouldn’t release when I wanted it to, usually resulting in the dart hitting the wall below the dartboard and the final dart wouldn’t leave the hand at all.
I must say that throwing in a dimly lit room was something I’d previously tried and with total success.
I would say I don’t suffer anymore but occasionally have an almost unnoticeable muscle twitch.
Great video with some fantastic suggestions
Great stuff WWD 👍🏻
I think the super light weight dart with little to no grip is an awesome thing to help correct your throw. What comes to mind for me is a set of Voks Mosquitos that are something like 5 grams with a very short piece of tungsten with no grip. It really helps you just concentrate on your release. I think that and darts like it are a great training aid.
Thanks for the tips, I'm going through this right now. I have never experienced this in my 30 years of darts.
Best of luck with it. Terrible ain't it? I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Hope one of the tips helps
Great video. I’ve not been playing darts for long and luckily haven’t experienced any issues so far. I do believe that you would beat the hell out of me even if you played in the dark 🤣
I hope I will never need this tipps, but again a very nice Video!
I have this issue now. It has been driving me crazy! I went from being one of the best to the worst. You are correct. It seems to be coinciding with many other stressors in my life. What I think is wierd is that it doesn't affect my non dominant hand. I hope I can shake this soon and get back to winning. Regardless though, I still love hanging with my friends. I'm sure they were tired of me always winning before. Perhaps this is a sad form of payback. Lol.
I'd love to hear from you and your opinion of the non dominant hand not being affected also.
Thanks for the comment. you're 100% correct... it never affected my left arm. I could play just fine left handed. Couldn't hit anything but throwing wasn't an issue at all. Baffling what our brain does to us at times.
Im still watching but had to comment. I had very bad problem too and that made me stop. Now after 10 years I again ordered a darts set to try again. But anyway...I used to practise A LOT. When I threw in dark where I barely saw the board I did 180 first or 2nd throw. Lights on and disturbed so much. Like i am staring at the flights and can't focus on the board...So was opposite problem but disturbing. Wanted to focus on target instead of dart flights...But now I continue with the vid! This is interesting...
Great informative video. Think we can see some WWD at a tournament soon?
I have dartitis for over 5 years now. I only had like last year 2 months without it, but thats all. I have noticed that it is absolutely worse when Im in my head or when I think about something. I definitely completely agree with the weight, I have noticed the same and I wasnt sure if people who had/have dartitis are expierencing the same thing. I actually play Tennis as well in my freetime and I think I will try doing this and see if it helps. But thx anyway for those tips, I really hope to play dartitis free one day again it would be a pleasure
Eric Bristow did fly fishing to help with his. Any arm movement helps
suffered from nerve damage in my arm and then got dartitis , couldnt grip the dart but kept changing grip and darts with more grip, havent hit a 180 in 5 years :( but other night threw 2 in 2 games :), good advice
Really great stuff, WW! I love how much of yourself you're willing to put out there, that's a big part of why I always click. I was wondering if your experience with dartitis had any bearing on you being retired? Do you worry that it would come back if you attempted to play professional darts? I've heard your other reasons for not coming out of retirement and they all make sense, I'm just curious to know if it's also partly because of your past experience with dartitis? I know that I, and many others, think you're one of the most incredible players I've ever seen. You've proven time and time again that you're capable of competing at a world class level, which certainly doesn't mean that you have to! If what you're doing now makes you happier than trying to play pro darts then I think that's amazing! It's just a curious question that I've wondered for a long time actually.
Thanks for the comment! I'm not worried about a case of full fledged dartitis striking me again. The only time I ever think about it is when I happen to see a video with someone struggling with it. I simply cannot watch it as it triggers some weird anxiety thing.
I've have never mentioned this to anyone but I also can't watch Mike Gregory throw darts. He famously lost to Phil taylor way back in the day in the world championship final. Something about his throw triggers me into thinking I could get dartitis again. It's very nerve wracking.
As far as me playing competitive darts... those days have passed me by I'm afraid. I lost my best friend back in 2005 and since then I also lost all competitive desires. I honestly do like CZcams as an outlet though. I feel I can help people with my videos. My #1 main goal is of course helping people save money on darts. Here in the USA we've been screwed over for decades with dart prices and I feel I've opened up a few eyes and helped many players discover UK dart shops and their low prices. So I'll just keep doing CZcams until the well runs dry.
@@WorldwideDarts Makes complete sense. I'm sorry for your loss. You've definitely helped a lot of people find and play better darts through your CZcams channel, including me. I've been buying overseas for years now ever since you turned me onto it.
CZcams is a definitely a great outlet and I'll look forward to continuing to watch your channel grow. Thanks for taking the time to reply, take care!
I've had dartitis for about 10 months now. Practicing on my own is usually fine but often when playing legs against someone else i can't release the first dart. Second and third darts are fine, i id hit something like a single 12 with first dart, miles off, then great next 2 darts. Very frustrating as i usually get 75+ averages and this is knocking it down 10 points.
Been struggling with dartits only for a couple of weeks and playing in the dark has to of been the biggest help
How is it now?
I've had dartitis for about a month. What's helping me was taking 3 plastic straws, cutting them to the length of my dart, wrapping some masking tape around the tip to give it some weight, measuring the throwing distance and throwing at a spot at eye level. As it turns out my spot is the handle on the kitchen cupboard. Anything to get the arm to release. Its working for me :-)
Did this help you to overcome it and go back to throwing normal ? For example throwing nothing but straws at the kitchen cupboard for weeks, not even looking at Darts and a dartboard until the brain forgets and then going back and it is like it was before ?
@@Neutronity Hi Tim ... yes it did. I know some very good dart players that went through the same thing ... some threw ping-pong balls, others threw cotton balls ... I chose plastic straws because it felt more like an actual dart. I came to realize dartitis was never was never really about darts ... it was about other things happening in my life. It took about three months to get my confidence back and I'm back to my old form. Every once in a while I still get the yips, but I have a different way of handling things. I bought a set of Ryan Searle 29 gram darts and, when I'm feeling "doubtful" I bring these out and they remind me how to get things done. Hope this helps. Message again if you need 🙂
Great Great video! Can not say that enough. I haven't had dartitis but it looks horrible.
Right! Reading some of these comments makes me feel bad for them. It completely kills the passion for darts when someone gets it
@@WorldwideDarts
I have a friend that is struggling with it. I will definately pass your advice on.
Thanks for the video, i currently have it really bad, its taking up to 20/30 secs just to release my first dart, even if i stand back take a deep breath and try again, i'm currently having a break from darts, i'm going to have 2 months of and come back at it, currently haven't thrown a darts in 8 days, gone from a steady 60/65, hitting the odd 70+ down a 40 ave if i'm lucky, it really is heartbreaking, just hope it goes when i next pick up a dart.
Sorry to hear. I hope something helps with it eventually 👍🏻
Hello WWD, 6 year dartitis sufferer here,
Well that’s kind of a lie, I’ve been able to play for a long percentage of that time but it hasn’t stopped coming back for 6 years, only recently getting over a roughly 7 month spurt with it. The solution that allowed me to continue playing for so long and still playing right now (along side a lot of work to make it work) was switching hand, from playing right handed to left handed. I’m so glad that I did. I have since broken my highest recorded average, went on a nearly 18month unbeaten streak with my pairs partner in the local league and hit 2 9 darters in practice. Highly recommend if you have the time and determination to rebuild your game from the ground up
I may have to try that, although the attempt results were way off aim. The last couple years I have severe muscle soreness at lower bicep (at elbow bend) that will last a good 2 days after league. Really hampers any practicing I'd like to do for an hour or 2 a day
@@Roadsurfer2k11 I would highly recommend. Although you would have to be ready for the backlash, your game won’t be on aim for a while, anywhere between 6-18 months, also depending on your current level, but it has turned me into the far better player I am today.
Thanks! I will try these things out! On another topic, I want to understand the mechanics of your "throw". How does one process sighting a few inches to your right and then centering up your arm to your body for backstroke, throw and release?
So that's what I am experiencing! There are times, and it happens every game, where I just can't stretch my whole arm and feel a strong pull that prevents me from moving my arms fluidly.
If you look at Barry von Peer at the 2021 UK open his old throwing motion is back without him doing ghost throws for the most parts
I over came it too, I changed my throw (which is the hardest thing about it) but I no longer think about it and that's the key
Happy to read that you beat it. Terrible isn't it 😫
Like he was saying don't aim / concentrate at the target to much. Thats the hardest thing for me. I can't get in that zone like I could before dartitis. If I concentrate to much I yank the dart . I to had to change my dart throw , which is hard now I have to think about how im throwing the dart instead of just getting up and throwing. To be truthful , it sucks , but it's better than it was, when it first hit.
@@WorldwideDarts it is
Great Video.
I overcame mine a year ago.
Same with you, I used the dim light and using light darts.
Here are some that helped me:
Extend the oche distance while using 14g set(more than soft tip distance).
Also by closing my eyes when I'm about to push forward.
The idea is to get my arms extended without thinking where the darts land and these helped me a lot.
I got it 2years ago when i was 11 and I thought i would never through again and that would be the end but first thing i did was change my flights and throwing style to a more unusual one then put less pressure on myself when i was playing also stepping back not rushing and compose myself eventually i got rid of it then started to re build my throw it hasnt came back since and i came out a better player hope this helps someone
Great video! Is there a link for the lightweight darts that i could buy? Thanks
I would check out Darts Clearance for starters. You can find them on eBay and I have many, many videos featuring their darts. My match darts are a set of 19g Darts Clearance darts.
Hope these things help me. I went from one of the best players in my group to throwing like I’ve never seen a dart before…. The harder I try the worse it seems to get….
Here’s my story.
Im 15. I was throwing absolutely killer darts, around a 93 average on 3 legs. All the sudden my throw won’t let me like follow through. I power through it and every one of my darts are like landing sideways and leaning left. It sucked so bad.
I am throwing slower, and like Adrian Lewis now. But it was so sad.
Currently am around a 65-70 average. Couldn’t be happier
I face similar situation in playing snooker. Unable to release cue smoothly at the right time. Any suggestions?? Thanks.
hey man i know this is an older post, i need desperate help, i can throw perfectly in the dark or with my eyes shut but as soon as i look at the board with the lights on i can’t throw, what should i do
I have the most extreme darteritus that you can imagine and I just don't know what to do anymore 😢
Just sent your video to my dad who has played pub league for +40 years every Thursday and after losing many good friends, finds himself the 'senior' of the group. He had a scare a few months ago, and now finds he cannot hit top of board. Still goes on Thursdays but he doesn't want to be a charity case or let the team down. Let's just say I called him and he is rather excited at the chance this may help.
Thank you for at least providing hope. Will keep you updated 👍😁
Oh man! I hope it helps. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Most frustrating thing ever. Tell your Dad I said hello and wish him the best
My team mate still dont play. Got this problem about 8 years.. He cant let dart from his hand..
I had dartisis whilst using 14 gm darts ,changed to 23 gms and now can throw again
do you think there might be a connection to stuttering?
it always seemed kind of similar to me...
No idea. I don't recall anyone stuttering that has had it.
Fun fact: My 1st 180 happened to be in no light room. And yeah it helps me to become better.
I get so nervous now my wrist twists, ive actually hit a 9 darter and been on a 9 like 12 years ago,i dont know what to do,i know i have the ability, help😢😢😢
If you wear glasses, try taking them off and throw a bit. I can score surprisingly well, considering i see only blur's
This is very similar to dimming the lights. If you take the focus off the board I found it easier to release the dart
I’m curious as to what your action was like before Dartitis, might make for an interesting video😉
Not quite as shite 😂
Sometimes, when I play and want to throw a dart, I have a kind of "blockade" or "freeze" (don't know how to name that). My arm does some strange moves and I hit the wall or other stuffs... Is that dartitis ??..
12:15 Personnaly, music help me a lot to calm down and stay focus in the game. (Boards of Canada, Autechre, Ten and Tracer or Tycho if you like ambient electronic music)
Yeah, that definitely sounds like dartitis to me
@@WorldwideDarts Oh no... :(
I realized that it happens mainly when I am tired. It's not happen every time so, until now, it's not a real problem but I'm a bit worried..
I need to have a better sleep I guess. :)
Great video again Worldwide. Sounds awfull 😬 Is it like over concentration that causes it? I hope I never experience this 🎯
Another player on the tour is Mensur Suljovic btw
2:13 berry in that thumbnail looks like he's got campitis!
It has hit me tonight in a league game and I had 163 left and only had scored 33
130 is a good leave 😁
i mean 11g Darts are pretty drastic i´d say, seeing as a 24g Dart is more than double the weight :D
i feel like after about 1 hour of practicing my arm becomes kinda tired (i play with 24g, Javelin Red Dragons), so maybe i should try a lighter dart.
I overthink my throw all the time literally nearly everything about it 😂 I still haven’t got it? I thought it was from overthinking and pressure?
It can start from a variety of reasons. Mine started when I hit a low point in my life.
@@WorldwideDarts sometimes my throw pulls to the left or right but mainly the left and I get a 12 or even 9 I don’t know if it’s a form of dartitis or if I’m just shit 😂😂
Well if you can release the dart then it's probably not dartitis. So that leaves the other thing 😂
@@WorldwideDarts cheers bro
10 beers helps
Good grief, looking through these comments it seems like everyone has had it and getting it is an eventual inevitability. Not looking forward to it possibly happening.
In other sports it's called a form slump.
It is not an obvious injury. Is it RSI or something else? The fact of the matter is no one can be at their top of their game for that long. Eventually the body gives in and people need a break to recharge and keep going.
Also people need to realise the after a while playing any sport, he body ages and what you used to be able to do, you can no longer do. It is called age. The body and the brain ages. Expecting to play any sport (darts included) as good now as you did 20 years ago is just the person having themselves on. Expecting the impossible.
When age or RSI or whatever strikes, the athlete needs to work out a different way to keep playing at their best.
Is this issue a serious issue that should be addressed so the athlete does not injure themselves? Of cause, this is 100% serious.
What we need to do is call it what it is, not make up some magical word (dartitis) to ignore the elephants in the room.
1. Age of the mind and body is a thing.
2. RSI is a thing after playing any sport for a long time.
3. External factors like stress or other injuries can affect your performance.
This affects everyone equally, be it pro athlete in the PDC or casual thrower in the pub . . . or in any other sport in the world too (ie not darts).
The content in the video here is solid but lets call this what it really is, not some made up term in an asinine pathetic attempt to differentiate this from every other athlete (pro, amateur or weekend casual) in the world and what they all have to eventually deal with.
No. If you are going to correct people, make sure you are right.
This condition is NOT a RSI.
Unlike RSI, which is an inflammatory problem, this is neurological.
It's called focal dystonia, google it for more info.