Best Surron Upgrade Under $500!!
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- čas přidán 8. 10. 2021
- I have bought most aftermarket upgrades for the Sur Ron electric motorcycles and this is by far the best upgrade for under $500 in my opinion. What do you think is the best?
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1 month wheelie progression?
@@lucastruesdale9004 ⁷
Awesomeness! Thank you Edwin, it was a pleasure to serve you
You still making videos man? I think I’ve watched just about every one of your videos on your Sur Ron’s, and you be pretty much convinced me to start saving up to build/buy one. I don’t see your promised video about the best cheap upgrades, I’d love to watch it and learn from it if you ever make it.
I hope you start posting again, love your content!
Thanks for making these videos! They're fun to watch and really informative. You've completely changed the way I'm approaching my build.
Happy to hear it!
Watching your Videos since a year, and now im riding my own surron and making my own videos. Thank you so much For your Inspiration! And For this Ultra nice Video!
I think I'm getting closer to parting with my KTM and going electric. This helps!
Nice! I've been running a 27.5 Carbon front rim and Maxxis tire for most of this year and it's been great!
Nice any issues?
@@SentAndBent No issues so far. I've taken it on some good drops to flat as well.
What do you run in the rear?
I just ordered my x160 last Sunday! So excited 😆
Nice!!
Loving the content, your videos have made me order a Sur Ron! Keep it up bro 👍🏻
What sort of pocket change did you throw at it ?start around 5grand I 5hought I heard ,just curios bro
They’re £4500 a lot of money but definitely worth it 😀
@@jamescronin2005 aah ya that's some coinage all right,I can see the pros to it for sure ,thanks on the reply bro
No worries 👍🏻
On the way - ordered 😁🤩
Hype. I want a surron so bad. It’ll happen soon
Awesome! It is a really fun bike!
LOVE these e-motocross bikes and your upgrade suggestions. Could you fit a 26" x 3.0" quality MTB tire for even more squish?
Would love to see how that light weight wheel would transfer over to your lite speed setup.
4:05 Those rotors look SUPER tiny now that you point them out and then show them directly on the gopro whoa
Awesome video
What about the fact that the 21” bicycle wheel has thinner spokes making it easy to snap when you do lots of jumps on the bike? Bicycle wheel spokes are designed to support bikes with much lighter weight.that’s one of the problems I’ve run into when I jump the bike I snap spokes a lot
Got home and found 3 spokes snapped, its a 14inch competition trial rim on a kuburg with 12g spokes, ripped the heads clean out the hub flange many look heavily worn, a motor bikes hub differs alot to pedal power i think thats half the problem too.
Hi Bruce! What spokes model did you use for your wheel build with which you experienced snapping issue? Factory Surron moto spokes are less strong than the DT Champion 2.0 we use. We never had any complaints of this nature from customers over years of supplying larger mtb front wheels for Sur-Ron.
In fact, good quality bicycle components outperform motorcycle gear sometimes. For example, a Fox 40 fork works much better on a Sur-Ron compared to Chinese fastace moto-fork alternative. Most of the Sur-Ron components are MTB parts: brakes, suspension, hubs
😲 bruce lee repartint bufetades!
Depends on the quality of the spokes we have all seen Red Bull Rampage…
Just gonna say downhill mtb have spokes and they get abused people seem to be fine with it
New sub here. Really enjoying this content. Do you have a recommendation on what upload you’ve done that I should view first? Looking into purchasing one in near future. Thanks
Love that you're a woods rider. How does it stick in mud/wetness? Does the front tire wash? I had a Honda years (don't ask how many!) ago and the front wheel was a bit taller than other bikes. The bike seemed to "hunt" uphill. How do you like this, now that you may have a bit more time on it? Appreciate the videos. I have a Sur Ron X with luna seat riser, seriously looking into larger front tire.
Yewww
Ah yes, commenting on your own video 😂
@@garrettwilliams8640 always
hows grip on the front considering the 21 mtb tyre is much thinner than other options of tyre like a maxxis 19'' for example thanks bro
Just got my sur ron, new break pads and a 56t sprocket. This seams awsome too, but i also like the idea of the quiet belt drive! Could you do a "belt drive in mud test" maybe?
People allways say belts dont work in mud but i have never seen something actually happen :)
@@NarcoSarco I'd think that belts would be way superior to victimization from grit compared to a lubricated chain. If the belt slips, use more aggressive drive lugs (get deeper than a chain in that footprint). Friends that have the belt drive on their harleys all love it because they don't have to do squat for maintenance except replace the belt. No lubing, no chain tools, bla bla bla bla I was kind of surprised that they didn't have a small linear CVT of some type because after seeing all the EV upgrades literally tear apart chassis not designed for the sheer magnitude and zero latency forces that EV can apply I didn't think it would be a cost effective (or energy efficient) chain driven system that could hold up. Belts are an OBVIOUS upgrade in this case.
Soft robotics is the future and that extends to all mechanical applications. Belts. I went and hunted for some frames again with the knowledge (thanks to the channel) that Segway frames were effectively the same and saw that Luna actually offers a belt upgrade pre-installed. I would have picked that option if I was buying new because that gets me directly into the belt ecosystem so I can start upgrading those without having to install all the base conversion stuff myself.
Well, now that we don't have to deal with the limitations of chain drive, we can explore things like curved belts, advanced tooth/gear geometry, and spherical articulation components. There's an active, toothed ball joint system I've been fascinated by ever since the paper was published. I've been thinking of ways to wrap and drive that joint with a dynamic control system instead of gears now that someone showed me such a thing exists. :-)
【Full HD】ABENICS: Active Ball Joint Mechanism With Three-DoF Based on Spherical Gear Meshings
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@@russellzauner i just checked out that balljoint that looks insane :) Belt drives do seem better and i think i might order the carbon one from surron shoop :)
@@NarcoSarco I had a belt drive Kawasaki road bike years ago, and got into some mud with it once. The belt clogged solid and got so tight it wouldn't turn, had to scrap each sprocket notch with a screw driver.
On how much did you pump it? whats the pressure? ...I got mine few days ago and I have video also how to swap the wheel. Love it
Sweet thanks for the review. Couple questions. Does the linkage come with the wheel? Also which stock forks are better - Segway's or Surron X? Can they be rebuilt to be improved?
They can be rebuilt, which is better. Using a different spring, changes the whole dynamic
@@kendrickmelendez8185 Sweet! where can I learn more? :D
@@joebrewer6554 czcams.com/video/RicDXmwCZ5c/video.html
can you fit a dual sport tire or trial tire on this wheel? or would it be worth it to buy this when I'm using my bike 70% road 30% dirt
Isn't mtb wheel just going to slide out much more easily tho? I mean there's a reason why most companies that specialize on Surron's wheels are strictly against those kind of setups. Not to mention it's probably not strong enough for this weight, especially if you are on a heavier side and/or have bigger battery.
I don't know. The wheels on stock Sur Ron or Segway are not exactly top tier. The MTB wheel is quality.
i have dh bike with motor and it weights 34kg and 26 inch and never slides ,grip is good on good dh bikes. wont slide as my doesnt and its super slack more than surry
Could I get the x260 and put the x160 wheels to make it smaller?
A larger front wheel is going to change the geometry as well by lifting the front higher. Did that rear link lift the rear or are you simply running a more raked out bike now?
It did lift the rear to balance out the bike
its 26" MTB wheel, super cheap from China
Sun-RIngle have their line in China for over 10Years and MTX is discountinued 26" LineUp.
how do you like the wheel? And is a Michelin tire better than Maxxis? I drive a recreational street and a forest. No Jumps minimum ..
Do you prefer this wheel over the Woodsy Wheel Works ones you purchase for your other Sur Ron?
I assume he likes each one on each bike and wouldn't swap either. The big bike needs big wheels while this one doesn't need as much.
If you ever get a new headset I would love to know what is the purpose of a headset (I’m not very tech savvy dirtbike person have a lot to learn) and what a new one would do to improve performance look forward to a video on that hopefully soon thanks for all the content. 👍
Headsets create stability for the forks and smoothness of steering. Imagine if your forks aren’t stable at the top, the entire front suspension system becomes useless if the forks are wiggling around. Better headset equals better stability. Stability in corners, stability over obstacles, stability at higher speeds.. etc
Did you ever tear the motor to check if the x160 is the same motor as the x260?
Mtb tires are very durable, and it's sold in the official shop, I think it's hood
So now you prefer these over your Woody Wheel Works mavin setup ??
Can you confirm the x150 is a 3kw rated motor vs the bigger 6kw rated motor on the x260/sur ron X?
I have been waiting on Edwin to answer this question as he said he was going to open the motor to find this out.
@@LarryRichelli no need. Someone else did it on CZcams and showed the differences.
What tire do you run in the back?
It's not 21 inch moto tire. It's 26 inch bike tire. Basically it's just bike wheel. 21 inch moto tire is just a bit smaller than 26 inch bike tire and they don't change each other!
Its a 26 inch mountain bike wheel you could have got for less then 300. Lol its just a mtx33 that wheel came on konas so many in the US
So if I order a Segway x160 and upgrade to 72v battery and a asi bac 8000. It will have just as much performance as a upgraded sur ron x/260?
I haven’t tested this for myself yet so I cannot say but I would ask the person you are buying the battery from
Better to start with an X platform… better headset, better suspension, better wheels, and we found out the motors are different. The 160 motor is not nearly as good…. Check it here- czcams.com/video/RvQbojpPSlc/video.html
The 160 is smaller then a surron and x260
@@xyyzs7023 not the frame/swing arm
The motors are not the same. The stator on the 160 is significantly smaller.
Add ti spokes it's a big difference
Anyone know where to get the x160 in Canada?
@@chadmansell6145 nah surron is 7k in Vancouver. Fuck that. I want the x160 so i can save 3k
@@chadmansell6145 yeah alberta is the place to be man. Van is a shithole
And that steel linkage is not stronger then aluminum, already seen broken ones.
Ha was going to say the same thing! I’ve seen steel ones broken before
We stand for our products and give half a year replacement warranty if you break it! Thank you for raising this topic Wayne 👍🏻
I personally wouldn't trust a MTB wheel/tire on a 110+ lb bike. Just doesn't seem worth it for all the potential risk involved (snapping spokes, blowing out tires, etc)
New wheels 2.8kg vs old wheels 5.2kg.
MTB wheel and MTB tyre is a bad idea in my opinion. It’s too light and too fragile. You’re gonna pinch in no time and bend the wheel 🙃
So far so good but we will see!
Talks about unspring weight....doing a wheelie in background...
First?
I would say that counts!
*pats himself on the back* 😁
Haha yes!
But this is a Segway
Yeah….same thing as a surron light bee….
Dude if you’re that worried about 4 pounds on your tire take off your boots lmao it’s 4 pounds
Man I just want to know how you are a vegetarian? I know being a vegetarian is good for you and I'd do it if I could but every vegetarian dish I've tried has been a no go. You use a vegetarian cook book or something?
Yes you have to cook a few things and try a few different Restaurants to see what you really like. Mexican and Italian are easy. It is really good for you and also much easier on the environment. Almost across the board vegetarian food takes way less resources to make than meat products
@@EdwinOlding but isnt it true that you have to eat meat in order to consume enough protein?
Meat is well bloody expensive anymore as is lol
Vegetarians are not healthier. Vegans are even worse. Humans evolved for eternity to eat meat. Try Keto if you want energy, weight loss, brain health.. etc.
@@donowtube Bullshit, A large serving of Kale has as much or more protein as your dead animal body part. What the hell do you think that dead cow ate to make your high protein, rotting flesh!
Nobody wants to hear about these ridiculous ebikes.this is not what your channel is about guys.do a separate channel for rhese useless things...john...Australia
This IS a different channel
Me thinks you had too many at the pub