Ultimate Light Weight 21" 18" 19" 16" Tire Upgrades for your Surron or Segway
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2021
- Wheel and tire upgrades for your Segway/Surron are amazing, but you need to be careful of the weight you add to the bike. We never run 100/100 size tires on Surron because they are too heavy and the carcass too stiff! Watch our video to see some of our favorite light weight tires, including TWO BRAND NEW 21" TIRES from Mitas which you've probably never heard of and can save you 3 lbs off your 21" wheel build. We even have a 21" tire that fits the narrow RST Killah fork!
Complete list of tire weights:
chargedcycleworks.com/pages/s...
Tires featured in this video:
Mitas E-09 2.75x21 Super Light: chargedcycleworks.com/collect...
Mitas C-11 21" Super Light: chargedcycleworks.com/collect...
Mitas 16" Rear: chargedcycleworks.com/collect...
Mitas 19" Front: chargedcycleworks.com/collect...
Bridgestone M203 19" Front: chargedcycleworks.com/collect...
Bridgestone M204 16" Rear: chargedcycleworks.com/collect... - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I think that your dedication to putting out good content is awesome. Keep it up! Love your videos and the info in them
This is the knowledge that riders, both experienced and new, need. Well done.
You guys are killing it. Love my 18/16” combo with controller from you guys. 👊🏻
thx guys, that was REALLY a huge help !
P.S. Both you guys are awesome....you know your stuff....glad i found your company....down to earth videos...🙂
Thank you, very helpfull video!
Great video
Thanks Brian! Just posted my new 16inch rear with the shinko cheater on USA owners group on FB and weight was what most users questioned me about. I'll refer them here if I get more 😉
I'll trade a few ounces for a gummy tire any day, well worth it! Those Cheaters are incredible!
I think that might be my blue front wheel! Awesome video!🔥
I think you might be right :) they were dropped off with UPS today :) Enjoy those beauties, that Gold rear hub looks amazing on them!
Great Vibes! I’m ordering 19/21 setup tomorrow!
18/21 you mean :)
@@ChargedCycleWorks haha yeah I did. ended up going with 16/19 tho!
Some day.. lol
Great tire content on your website btw!
Thanks!
Build a shround larger then inverter to put over inverter but with plenty of holes to keep it quiet.
My goal for my bike was to keep it as light as possible. Fox 49 and fox rear w/SLS...Stock rear tire and rim. Front 26 inch sunringle wheel and Michelin DH34 tire. I have 3000 miles on the bike and love it..I use the small tires because I don't want to rip up bike trails etc. I think my bike weighs 105 lbs.
Don't get aggressive on that setup, when front wheels explode very bad things happen. We've seen it happen unfortunately. We can't in good conscience recommend a lighter setup that could cause bodily harm or injury. In this case, MTB wheels made for a 35lb bike. While any wheel can handle forces when rolling (hello wagon wheel), torsional stiffness is a completely difference ball game. One wrong hit on a sidewall that might deflect the front end sideways and your wheel could taco easily. Watch the crashes from redbull rampage or the MTB downhill world cup. You'll see many, many folded front wheels. Glad it hasn't happened to you yet, but please be careful and don't ride too aggressive on that setup.
THANK YOU! you nailed it! I take my bike to the mountain bike shops and they turn me away saying it weighs to much and it has a throttle so they won't touch it, and then to it to the motor sports and they're saying the same thing scratching their heads
haha, yeah we feel your pain, we get the same treatment but from the other end (dealer side). The more we struggle to work with the MTB manufacturers the more we are making our own products and working with Moto companies like Warp9, Rocky Mountain, etc to help grow this sport. Everyone is learning and trying to figure this new market out and we're helping to push it the direction we believe it should go. Fun times :)
@@ChargedCycleWorks in with the new, resist the future and they'll die out ;]
❤ Great video and info. Any possibility of front fork weights & options for upgrades 🤔
We could definitely do a video on that! In fact we want to go much more in depth! Stay Tuned
@@ChargedCycleWorks sweet 🙏🏿
On a 21" wheel how important is the heavy gauge spokes versus the lighter stock spokes? I see lots of wheels on eBay using stock hubs and lighter gauge spokes. From my motocross days in the 1970s I know how easy it is to destroy a wheel by breaking spokes. From my bicycle racing days I know how lighter wheels and tires go faster. I like your approach and your insight. Thank you!
we are erroring on the side of caution with 10g, but it's also a production reason, the simple fact is, everyone who attempts to build wheels for the surron with 12g cannot source nipples large enough for MX rims and that right there is the biggest reason why we use 10g. We have recently found a new source for 12g spokes and nipples and will be building 16/19 with them (coming soon).
coming from mountain biking, i haven't used a tube in over 10 years and can count on one hand how many flats I've had in that time. I'm surprised you guys aren't doing tubeless, less weight, lower pressures for better traction, are there any cons running tubeless on a sur ron?
Can you make a video on best street tire and best street/ trail / all session tire
Thanks for the suggestion! It will probably be a while for us to make that video, so here is the cliff notes :). Shinko 241 and 244 are by far the best sellers for this. You can see all our choices here: chargedcycleworks.com/collections/surron-tires/street
@Charged Cycle Works thank you! I'm new to the E-bike world, about to purchase a surron in March. But gonna start buying upgraded parts. Mainly gonna use it for trail riding and street cruising..
The 26 mtb wheel and tire is 26 inch dia. Stock rear is 24 inch dia.. FYI
Great vid 👍. I'm looking for a light 19/21 Combo for my Ultra Bee. Would the midas c18 100/90-19 Superlight fit the stock rim?
If you haven't seen it yet our tire weight database will be your new best friend for making tire decisions, we are starting to add larger sizes to it for the Ultra Bee: chargedcycleworks.com/pages/sur-ron-tire-upgrade-specs-and-weights. Also we have a Stage1 package which is an 19/21 and comes with a new 21" front with tire mounted to it and a fresh 19" 100/90-19 tire to mount to your stock rear rim. chargedcycleworks.com/products/surron-ultra-bee-stage-1-package
Hi, I’m getting my new surron next week and I’d like to change the tires to street tires as I live in nyc and also want the maximum width. What can you recommend ? Thx!
We have not really gotten into street only tires, are you going to keep the 19" OEM wheels? If not and you want 100% street we see a lot going to a 17" rim for the best tire selection. Width is the biggest limitation, especially if yours comes with an RST fork which is extremely narrow you cannot go any wider with that fork. In the rear you can go wider but you'll want to be careful with that, it will need to be low profile for example our 3.50x19 Shinko Trials tires are a HUGE diameter which requires a 21" front wheel upgrade to match the diameter and not mess up chassis geometry. If you stick with OEM wheels our best recommendation are these, however we have access to many others we could explore. chargedcycleworks.com/products/shinko-sr241-trials-rear-tire-for-sur-ron-or-segway-x260-2-75x19
Would love to chat sometime....you never stated your name...lol......might have talked on the phone...lol got the talaria 72v battery from you....great video....🙂
What about a 18/19 combo? I ask because the 19 inch rear tire is limited on tire selections. I ended up running a 19 inch front tire on my rear 19 inch rim. Thoughts?
There are only really two great combos and they come from the MX world 16/19 and 18/21. The reason we don't typically do 19/21 is because a 90/100-19 does not exist and you need a 90 width to maximize what can be fit in the swingarm. If you run an 18" full size MX tire in the rear combined with a 19" front which comes off a mini-mx bike your balance and handling is off by quite a lot. A 16" combined with a 19" front is 1000x better, these sizes are made for eachother.
*I checked your list* but STILL LOOKING FOR A LIGHTWEIGHT DUAL sport tire for 19” stock :-( ANY HELP?? thanks for the videos!
Dual Sport and Light Weight are opposites, that does not exist. DS tires are DOT approved which means the carcass and construction must meet DOT standards all of that adds weight to the tire. The Shinko 244 is 6.5lbs on our weight chart, all things considered that isn't too bad.
Hi, I got my Bridgestone 203s and they look so identical to the stock tire I am unsure it’s worth the swap… what do you think? I ride in Florida and it’s quite sandy.
Dunlop MX33 for Florida
I have an 18/21 set on my Cake Kalk OR. I’m running the Dunlop K990. Have you weighed the K990 front? I’m betting it also fits the RST forks. For someone who would want a dual purpose bike the Mitas looks perfect. Do they make a smaller 18” rear to match that tread? For what it’s worth, I did notice a significant drop in power and range going to 18/21 K990’s over the stock 24 mtb wheels it came with. Much more traction though.
K990 is amongst the lightest there is, we have all the weights listed here at the URL below. Same problem on surron the 18/21 adds significant weight decreasing power and range, which is why we really only recommend it for those who are going to do power and battery upgrades. chargedcycleworks.com/pages/sur-ron-tire-upgrade-specs-and-weights
@@ChargedCycleWorks thank you! I have a Sur Ron also. Running a Pirelli Scorpion front 19” and an SR241 rear 19”. Works well!
What's the weight of 21'' mx33 tires? From my research it seems to be 9'', so I guess you prefer Mitas over Dunlop as a front tire, right? Also is 2 pounds more on the front is really that noticeable, even with aftermarket battery and controller (I usually run 10-12kw setups)?
All of the weights of the tires are on our website in the URL below. I would choose the Michelin StarCross over the MX33, killer weight at 7.3 lbs and just as much traction as an MX33. Mitas are sold out at the moment. For these reasons we have made the Michelin our standard tire with our 21" wheelsets we sell. It's a great choice for Surron. The more power you have the less you will notice weight increases, but all of this also affects your range as well. Lots of factors to consider, weight is always something we want to try to minimize. chargedcycleworks.com/pages/sur-ron-tire-upgrade-specs-and-weights
I’m looking for a 19 and 21 inch setup shipped to Canada. What’s my best option?
We sell TONS of wheelsets north of the boarder. Shipping is a little bit higher, but not too terrible. Hit the notification button on our 18/21 wheelset and it will alert you for the next batch we sell. chargedcycleworks.com/collections/wheels/products/18-21-complete-wheel-tire-combo
What do you think about this front tire? Claims 5.9 lbsDunlop Tires D605 Front Dual Sport Tire 2.75x21
Great find! unfortunately our distributor is sold out and we can't get any at the moment to confirm the weight. They list it at 7lb shipping weight. We'll try to get one when they come back and add them to the weight chart on our website
12:53 “The OEM front wheel…weighs 9.9 pounds.”
.9 equals how many ounces? Or are you saying .9 equals 9 ounces?
Did the mitas 16" are fitting without dishing or trimming?
We designed our rear hubs to compensate for the dishing but yes, the mitas fits very well.
Can You advice spokes for 16" rim?
Buchanan 10g spokes come with our wheelsets for superior quality and reliability.
I don't understand. With the title and you talking about the 18" tires and you list a link for every other size but 18"
If I was going to order wheels for a 21/18 setup, is there any downside to having it setup with some offset? I'm thinking its better to have it and not use it than to need it but not have it.
Many of our bikes are 18/21 setup, they are awesome for trail riding and motocross riding, we would definitely suggest suspension with drop crowns so you get more fork clearance. Either that or install a zero stack headset on your bike
@@ChargedCycleWorks I've got forks with a drop crown. I'm trying to decide if I should have my new wheels laced with some offset in the rear to make sure whatever tire I end up with doesn't have clearance issues on the chain.
Is there any downside to setting up a wheel this way even if I end up with a more narrow rear tire that doesn't require it?
@JESSEverything if you offset it by a couple mm you shouldn’t have any performance effects that will be noticeable. We have offset many wheels and don’t mind it. The vintage mx33 90/100-18 is a great tire choice for not needing to offset if you end up not wanting to
@@ChargedCycleWorks Thank you for the reply, I really appreciate it. You guys put out some really great info and videos.
How about a18/19 set up instead of a 18/21 would that work ?
If you mean 18 rear 19 front, the problem with this is the same problem with a 21" combined with a stock rear 19" tire. There is a pretty drastic imbalance in the bike both in traction and chassis geometry changes. With 18/19 you'll have this massive rear tire with gobs of traction essentially "pushing" your much smaller 19" front tire around. You've also raised the rear end significantly putting a lot more weight onto the front tire which is already at a traction disadvantage to the rear making things worse. If you only want to purchase one wheel we cannot stress enough that the 16" rear with your OEM 19" up front and upgraded tire like an MX33 is AMAZING and by far the single best upgrade you can do to your bike. If you want a 21" front you really must pair it with a 90/100-18 rear, and as soon as you do this open your wallet for power upgrades, you won't like stock power with an 18/21, power upgrades are certain to come next.
@@ChargedCycleWorks thanks for the info I'm currently running 16/19 but I'm planning a18/21 set up with the torp controller instead of the BAC 4000 and it's smaller and lighter
I come from mountain biking :)
excuse me but my english is very bad!! what is the best lightest tire (front and rear) in 19’ ( with the oem wheel)? thannnnks😉
We’ve weighed all tires to help customers understand each tire vs others here: chargedcycleworks.com/pages/sur-ron-tire-upgrade-specs-and-weights
@@ChargedCycleWorks thanksssss👍👍👍 so in the stock size,the lightest tire is CST oem😉😉 thanks thanks thanks👍👍👍
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video would be More useful if you put text info on screen
RST killah forks would seize with that extra weight lmao even my KKE 2023 forks died with a heavy tire no rebound left
The RST forks are going to have problems no matter what tires you run, it's unfortunate that Surron ever put these forks on these bikes, they were desperate when they made this decision and it was a huge mistake. We have plenty of 19" tires with superior performance, increased flat protection, and minimal weight gain available.
@@ChargedCycleWorkswhat would you recommend for 50/50 road/off road . Here in Ny, the weathers impossible to keep up with Z
Ill edit your videos... no more unwanted back ground noise, much clearer audio. Better picture quality, intros, transitions, etc... for free let me know.
also can you make your product in orange >_>
Everything on your website is sold out 😭
Unfortunate side effect of COVID production delays from our suppliers/distributors and us simply trying to pace ourselves so the quality doesn’t suffer. Thanks for hanging in there, we’ll continue to do everything we can to get parts back in stock ASAP.