I have a 229 Legion and it's by far my favorite gun. Every now and then I'll shoot some new type of gun and think " wow this is a good shooter"! Then I pick up my Legion and think " belay my last"! I will pass my 229 Legion on to my daughter one day.
I have the Legion 226, as well... (and this 229 Elite). I know exactly where you're coming from. I've tried other guns and think they are also great shooters, then shoot my Sig and think "What was I thinking?" Mine, too, will be passed to my daughter. But for now, she as her own Legion 938! LOL.
Very good in depth review. I have the military version of the P229 the M11A1 with the SRT trigger and Siglite Night sights. Very good trigger and sights and very accurate. No failures in over 1500 rounds. I Like Sig all metal handguns.
Excellent video! I have watched this video so many times. Have a 229 Legion that I absolutely love and just ordered a 229 Enhanced Elite. Can’t wait to start carrying it. Love your channel. Keep up the great work!
Metal hammer fired SIGs are easily some of the best handguns on the planet. As always your reviews are some of the best of CZcams hands down. I appreciate hearing the opinion of an active Police officer!
I have owned 2 striker fired and one hammer. And I LOVE my SA/DA so much more. Its my EDC gun despite its larger size. Not to mention I seem to shoot better
@@mauriciomartinez1825 I used to wear a traditional, IWB Kydex holster for my 229 (and sometimes my 226). I discovered belly bands and never went back. With the belly band, I can wear almost any gun, any size, any weight. The belly band allows me to wear it a little higher up on my body and since the band carries the full weight of the firearm, I'm not always having to lift my pants up on my strong side. It lets the belt do what it's supposed to do... hold my pants up! PLUS, it nice when you have to go to the bathroom in a public place and not have to mess with finding a place to put my gun after unbuckling my belt.
The P229 in all calibers since 2010 all use the same frame (P229-1). Before 2010 the 9mm P229 used a frame with a smaller magwell and the .40/.357 SIG P229 used a different frame. The change to the same size frame was to make it simpler and more economic to manufacture. The added benefit like you pointed out is the 15 round flush fit magazines vs. the older 13 round flush fit magazines in 9mm.
Great video. I bought a SIG P229 Enhanced Elite earlier this year and love the SRT and beavertail. You would think the beavertail wouldn't matter with a bore axis this high, but I tried a regular P229 in a gunshop and it hits my thumb knuckle in a way that would beat it without the beavertail. The employee even pointed it out to me, but as soon as I tried one with a beavertail it was perfect.
I've looked at a ton of reviews as I am interested in moving to the 229 as my carry. I currently carry the DOA p250. I love the gun, and by your description, assume the double action is very similar. Smooth and flawless. However, the DOA, while great for follow l up shots, it is limited in it's rapid fire capability. Which is why I am sitting here listening to you. I am built like you and have zero issues carrying a larger gun than most others either can or care to. Blah blah blah. The point I am trying to make is that I appreciate your in-depth review. It has answered all remaining questions that I had. Thanks for taking the time.
One of the best P229 reviews that I've seen! I'm stuck on the CA Left coast and am actively looking for one of these side arms... I've got history with Sig P226 and P228. I. Looking to replace these guns with this one. Not many deals in Covid world. Thanks for doing this video!
I picked up 229 Elite at an auction for less than I paid for my Glocks which I was enamored with until I operated that Sig. I concur with your analysis and have only found a high end Kimber to equal it at the range.
Great review as always J! I just starting shooting 229 rx which been nothing but stellar. Just tad more accurate than my old gen4 19 mos . Just keep mind most ccw insurance won’t cover you if a modified gun used . Not a hit on you J . Most people don’t read fine print . Your spot on about sigs ( all metal guns ) . P365 I just purchased is on its way back to sig broken striker
You’re the first person I’ve heard actually state that philosophy - to (first) set up your gun to best survive a situation and thus be alive to (second) defend your modifications in court. It’s why we make the mods after all right? We like to tinker to be sure but I’d guess most mods are intended to be performance enhancements. Now the back plate with “Kill em all”...maybe not so much. Great videos! Keep them coming!
That's my mantra. I've been in some pretty close contact engagements in OIF and what a lot of people neglect to observe is that firefights happen in tenths of seconds. You want to save up those tenths by setting up your kit accordingly (within reason).
Thank you for explaining the serrations. I was trying to order a holster and most manufacturers want you to specify full, or half serrations. But I didn't know what the hell they were talking about.
I’m looking to snag the select model it’s got a smaller beaver tail srt trigger g10 grips and the controls of the legion as you said for the people who will depress the slide stop
Thanks for sharing and your suggestion about changing the slide release, I think it is a good option. I had problems with my thumb and the slide catch/release as you denoted. I did change the mechanism on the P226 to the one designed for the P224. For me that solved the problem.
Short reset very close to 225A1 trigger which is sweet ( as I know you already reviewed ) . Love 225A1 which I don’t have a problem with the round count because I know I going to get my hits .
With these sights does it shoot poa/poi? I bought one woth aftermarket sights and it shoots way low and am lookin at the dawsons. Was this the charger set or did you have to guy the front and back seperate?
Glad I came across you my friend. I carry a 229 legion with Romeo 1 pro edc. And yes it’s easier being not a bigger guy around. Great channel brother keep up the honest work for just every day guys. I’m subbing today. Looks like your past Leo also ?
Great review of my favorite handgun .... Lucky me, I just got lucky, I have a 25 year plus P229 that was made in W. Germany in SW40 several years ago I was able to buy from SIG a 22Lr conversation slide and a 9mm slide with night sights and two 15 round 9mm mags that sit flush, that's probably because it originally came in SW40, i have seen reviews of these old P229 from W.Germany compared to the the P229 legends and the trigger is better on the W Germany model than the new ones. I love my P229 and I will ever get rid it for any amount of cash
Clarify. Was the Da/Sa trigger action the BEST out of the box or after the Grey 3 spring package.? You emphasized Grey then went on to rave about out of the box trigger. Step out and say
Takes the same amount of time to cock that hammer as it does to disengage a manual safety. Great review. In my opinion the p229 legion is the best handgun ever made.
Keep in mind that you can also purchase a Mec-Gar 18 round mag made for the 226 that will fit in this 229 (it will also fit the Taurus G2C). I have this same tool, 229 Elite. Mine also has the GG flat trigger, Crimson Trace laser grip and a Big Dot sight installed. This is, IMO, the best carry pistol. I have never had a hang-up of any kind... ZERO. No FTE's, FTF's. This gun just works. All the time.
Very good J. I appreciate & enjoy your vids. Thanks for service to country in every way. I have been leaning toward a P226 or P227 Legion. Your Elite is quite a bit like a Legion after all is said and done. Did you give any consideration to the Legion before you decided on the Elite. Any advice for anyone considering a P226 over a P229. The 229 doesn't seem significantly smaller or lighter IMO. Thank you again.
Drew James Very sorry. They have not yet. Only 220 thus far. I confused the communication. I am expecting they will. Surprised they haven't. I mainly am interested in first hand experience in carry between the 226 & 229. Am I going to regret going 226 over 229 in size. Mecgar mags hold 18 rounds I believe in 9mm. Thanks. Forgive the confusion.
So, the next Legion guns I know of will be P229 SAO and the 938. Next year may be the P227. I have owned the Legion in both P229 and P226. Both were great guns but most of the features can be replicated for less money if you get a good deal on the elite guns.
J Helmsing Good man. Very good to know. I have been considering the 226 or 229 for some time but haven't taken the step for $$$. Been running poly-guns for a bit. I am missing the DA SA from the past. The Legion sparked the desire a year ago. Lord bless.
As always, Great Video super informative. Question....what do you think is a better overall shooter This Sig 229 or the Sphinx SDP Compact? I shot the Sig Legion today and was really surprised how much I liked it. I have seen many videos stating that it has a high bore axis and there is more felt recoil and muzzle flip, which is why I wasn’t interested in the Sigs. However after shooting one today, I found it to be super comfortable to shoot. I shot it well. I’m in between the Sig and the Sphinx. Both felt great in the hand. Very similar in comfort and feeling solid.
J Helmsing thanks for responding, any reason why you prefer the Sig? Not many people have shot both as the Sphinx isn’t as well know as Sig. Since you shot both, why the Sig?
@@anthonycaldi7056 mainly because the Sphinx isn't super smooth as far as the trigger goes in DA. Most Sig hammer guns are just butter smooth. The Sig guns with the SRT also have a shorter reset. Add in the fact that classic P series pistols have a strong aftermarket and that is definitely the way I'd go.
Excellent review. You think you could do a video of the Gray guns Spring kit? Maybe a before after weight would be cool, I’ve been considering changing my 229 Scorpion Springs but not sure it’s worth the hassle. Thanks.
I am probably going to move to do equipment reviews in the future. I've done several of these spring kits so I can talk through the process fairly easily. The bottomine is that it is absolutely a worthwhile change.
J Helmsing Awesome, thanks. Like I said, the frame wasn’t too bad but the slide I haven’t even messed with. I’ve taken Glocks down completely, but sigs are on another level.
Just a point about mags. Mec Gar does make 15 rnd flush fit mags for the P228/ P229. Mec Gar also makes 18 rnd flush fit mags for the P226 and 20 rnd mags are available (18 rnd mags with the +2 baseplate).
Had a sig 229 9mm w/night sights about twenty years ago. I never got along with it on the account of the high bore axis. I could’ve sworn I also had one in .40, and was kind of meh about it as well. In my 30’s, pistols only had a temporary residency in my home while I was searching for others. Looking back, My dislike of those two pistols was my own personal failing. At the time I was all about Wilson CQB .45 ACP, Clint Smith, Col. Cooper and all that discipline. I never really gave the Sig pistols a fair chance. Live and learn I guess.
I carry a P229 and an extra magazine. If someone can’t carry one due to size they shouldn’t be carrying. Weight is your friend, and the mag capacity helps, but it all comes down to shot placement. Badass Sig.
Is it possible to have the extended beaver tail removed? I’m guessing it’s an extension of the aluminum frame and would require custom machining? Removing the beaver tail would make this the perfect firearm.
J first thank u for Service and ongoing..J don't let the haters bother u man u awesome I wish I had half ur training and if I knew where u lived when shtf I would head to ur house for orders.. I believe survivability would be high around u.. awesome vid I have a 229 I enjoyed the vid very much good day to u sir
For all the right reasons the legion is a better gun. I purchased the P220 10mm legion which in itself is different from other legions. All stainless steel and shoots like a 9mm, super accurate and great follow up shots.
I honestly love my HK's but for some reason I always carry the Springfield xdm. 20 rds and the grip safety which allows me piece of mind with a safety that I dont have to worry about disengaging.
I’ve always very much enjoyed your reviews and have gotten a lot out of them. I came across this one and it seems you haven’t posted anything new in quite a while. Hope things are okay. Do you have a different channel somewhere else?
The only meaningful difference among pistols is what happens 25 yds. down range on an 8 in. target . Most people can shoot about 5 rounds before muscle fatigue affects holding ability. Shooting gets better with a pistol that allows a solid grip, and has a heavy slide to force a stronger hand grip and mitigate recoil and muzzle flip. Plastic bricks don't lend themselves to marksmanship. High capacity magazines are a psychological crutch. You're only out-gunned if you miss.
Great overview! I have my Mk25 with the Sig enhanced package done to it after 1 million rds shot through it. It will be interesting to see how the Sig 229 Legion will stack up against it! Thank you for your time!
Did you say you have 1M rds thru your mk25? If that’s true, that is quite impressive. How long have you owned it and how often do you shoot? I’ve heard of 2-300K rds with some weapons but have never heard of someone actually having put a Mil thru one gun, no matter the brand. Another question, how many barrels has it gone thru, cuz I’m interested and will be tellin this story to a few fellow gun guys cuz that’s amazing!
Nice review. FWIW Mec Gar (one of two oem mag manufacturers for Sig) does make 18rd flush mags for the 226. Not sure why Sig does not rebrand them. Just noticed your comment about why 229 vs 226 at same mag size.
Richard Jurewicz www.mec-gar.com/pistol-magazines/Sig-Sauer/SIG-SAUER-P226-18-High-Cap-Flush-Fit Actually they do and they are flush fit. I was referring to the 226.
@@clayreddig2435 I have this same mag. It fits flush in my Legion 226 but there is a small gap when I use it in my 229. BUT, when carrying concealed, who cares what it looks like as long as it works? AND IT DOES WORK, PERFECTLY. It's not a large gap but it's there. 18+1 is still better than 15+1.
Would just like to point out that all P-series guns have an internal safety that blocks the firing pin when you use the decocker. So if you chamber a round and decock using the lever you can drop the gun on the hammer and it will not fire. If you manually decock the hammer like you have to with a beretta m9/92 you would be bypassing this safety feature.
Man, THANK YOU J! EXCELLENT IDEA FORNTHE SLIDE RELEASE BRO! I FEEL LIKE AN IDIOT - NEVER THOUGHT OF SWITCHING IT OUT FOR THE SMALLER 224 RELEASE!!!! JUST SUBSCRIBED BRO - SS P226 - 229 ARE OVERALL THE MOST DEPENDABLE-ACCURATE PISTOLS AVAILABLE. MY DAD WOULD TRY TO ARGUE GLOCK19 BUT HE'S NEVER OUTSHOT ME ON THE RANGE AND HE'S HAD TO DEAL WITH A FEW MISFIRES AND OR MALFUNCTIONS WHEREAS I NEVER HAVE NOT EVEN ONCE. IF YOU'RE SOMEONE WHOSE OCCUPATION COULD PLACE YOU IN THE LINE OF FIRE AND YOUR SIDEARM COULD BE THE DIFFERENCE IN LIFE OR DEATH - LOOK NO FURTHER MY FRIENDS. SAME GOES FOR HOME PROTECTION. I KNOW MY WEAPON IS GOING TO FIRE AND FIRE ACCURATELY BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT WHETHER IT BE MY 1ST OR MY 1,000TH SHOT. IF SOMETHING WERE TO GO WRONG IT WOULD BE DUE TO USER ERROR OR MALFUNCTION NOT THE WEAPON. ALSO IF YOU'RE A RELATIVELY NEW SHOOTER OR EVEN AN EXPERIENCED MARKSMAN - WHAT J SAYS ABOUT MISFIRES IN STRIKER TYPE PISTOLS IS VERY VERY REAL AND HAPPENS MORE THAN YOU'D IMAGINE TO SHOOTERS FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND EXPERIENCE LEVELS. NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE ALL GARBAGE BUT ANY RISK I CAN CUT OUT WHILE NOT LOSING ANY NOTABLE EFFICIENCY OR EFFECTIVENESS IS A NO BRAINER. I CAN RAPID FIRE (MORE ACCURATELY) AT THE SAME RATE OR EVEN FASTER WITH MY SIG.
3:30 That’s one hell of an important point and very easily forgotten by the guntubers. Are you a Leo? I’m about to get my CCW and new to guns in general; your videos are gold!
I've had both a 229 Legion and a 226 Legion. Both were great guns, but I didn't care for the X-ray 3 sights (specifically the front) and really the only true upgrade is the undercut frame. Everything else can be replicated for less money. 800$ or so is about my threshold for a carry gun.
Not much really, the M11 has a bobbed frame, no rail, some corrosion resistant parts, SRT trigger and some M11 markings and "P228" grips. Mechanically it's a P229-1, just in a bit more concealable layout.
3:20 It's not an opinion, It's an absolute fact and your God given right to defend your family and yourself by any means necessary. If you can modify it for the better, go ahead!
(I copied and pasted this message that I left on another reply on a comment further up. I just didn't feel like typing the same thing all over again, BUT)... I used to wear a traditional, IWB Kydex holster for my 229 (and sometimes my 226). I discovered belly bands and never went back. With the belly band, I can wear almost any gun, any size, any weight. The belly band allows me to wear it a little higher up on my body and since the band carries the full weight of the firearm, I'm not always having to lift my pants up on my strong side. It lets the belt do what it's supposed to do... hold my pants up! PLUS, it nice when you have to go to the bathroom in a public place and not have to mess with finding a place to put my gun after unbuckling my belt.
I have to laugh when I hear people talk about "how hard it is to conceal full size guns.". LOL MY EDC is the FNX 45 Tactical with a 5.3" threaded barrel, suppressor height sights, a Trijicon RMR, and a double stack 15 round magazine... plus at least one extra magazine, sometimes TWO.... LOL
J Helmsing ok awesome thank you. I purchased this pistol today and your video was very informative and was actually what made up my mind to do so. Trying to get the gray gun flat trigger but they currently out of stock at the moment. I would really love to know of anything else you would recommend. Again thank you for all the information.
I have a 229 Legion and it's by far my favorite gun. Every now and then I'll shoot some new type of gun and think " wow this is a good shooter"! Then I pick up my Legion and think " belay my last"! I will pass my 229 Legion on to my daughter one day.
I have the Legion 226, as well... (and this 229 Elite). I know exactly where you're coming from. I've tried other guns and think they are also great shooters, then shoot my Sig and think "What was I thinking?" Mine, too, will be passed to my daughter. But for now, she as her own Legion 938! LOL.
Tyrone sounds like a Navy guy when he said, belay my last. 👍
@@trangia12 Yes sir, 10 years active USN!
The P229 Legion is my favorite also and I have a Shadow 2. So the Legion is an awesome gun!!
Very good in depth review. I have the military version of the P229 the M11A1 with the SRT trigger and Siglite Night sights. Very good trigger and sights and very accurate. No failures in over 1500 rounds. I Like Sig all metal handguns.
Excellent video! I have watched this video so many times. Have a 229 Legion that I absolutely love and just ordered a 229 Enhanced Elite. Can’t wait to start carrying it. Love your channel. Keep up the great work!
Metal hammer fired SIGs are easily some of the best handguns on the planet. As always your reviews are some of the best of CZcams hands down. I appreciate hearing the opinion of an active Police officer!
Hammer guns are making a comeback IMO. They definitely are with this cat. Love my Legion 229 and my Centurion both.
You have 2 expensive guns with legion and centurion wow!!
Was stuck between those two. Ended up getting the 229 legion sao
I have owned 2 striker fired and one hammer. And I LOVE my SA/DA so much more. Its my EDC gun despite its larger size. Not to mention I seem to shoot better
@@mauriciomartinez1825 I used to wear a traditional, IWB Kydex holster for my 229 (and sometimes my 226). I discovered belly bands and never went back. With the belly band, I can wear almost any gun, any size, any weight. The belly band allows me to wear it a little higher up on my body and since the band carries the full weight of the firearm, I'm not always having to lift my pants up on my strong side. It lets the belt do what it's supposed to do... hold my pants up! PLUS, it nice when you have to go to the bathroom in a public place and not have to mess with finding a place to put my gun after unbuckling my belt.
Thank you Sir, for taking the time to do this video, EXCELLENT JOB on explaining the Sig Sauer P229 Enhanced Elite, have a great week!
Probably the best review I have seen thanks for sharing 🤙🏽
The P229 in all calibers since 2010 all use the same frame (P229-1). Before 2010 the 9mm P229 used a frame with a smaller magwell and the .40/.357 SIG P229 used a different frame. The change to the same size frame was to make it simpler and more economic to manufacture. The added benefit like you pointed out is the 15 round flush fit magazines vs. the older 13 round flush fit magazines in 9mm.
Thanks for your honesty. Love mynew 229.
Great video. I bought a SIG P229 Enhanced Elite earlier this year and love the SRT and beavertail. You would think the beavertail wouldn't matter with a bore axis this high, but I tried a regular P229 in a gunshop and it hits my thumb knuckle in a way that would beat it without the beavertail. The employee even pointed it out to me, but as soon as I tried one with a beavertail it was perfect.
I've looked at a ton of reviews as I am interested in moving to the 229 as my carry. I currently carry the DOA p250. I love the gun, and by your description, assume the double action is very similar. Smooth and flawless. However, the DOA, while great for follow l up shots, it is limited in it's rapid fire capability. Which is why I am sitting here listening to you.
I am built like you and have zero issues carrying a larger gun than most others either can or care to. Blah blah blah. The point I am trying to make is that I appreciate your in-depth review. It has answered all remaining questions that I had. Thanks for taking the time.
Picked up a P229 in 357 sig several months back(police trade in, great price) I love this handgun
I thought you did a great job. First video I've seen where the gun wasn't shot yet my interest was held. Learned a lot. Thank you.
Awesome video! Thanks for all the info on the 229
Loved the review. Nice work sir. 🤙🏼
One of the best P229 reviews that I've seen! I'm stuck on the CA Left coast and am actively looking for one of these side arms... I've got history with Sig P226 and P228. I. Looking to replace these guns with this one. Not many deals in Covid world.
Thanks for doing this video!
I picked up 229 Elite at an auction for less than I paid for my Glocks which I was enamored with until I operated that Sig. I concur with your analysis and have only found a high end Kimber to equal it at the range.
Beautiful pistol! Now I am shopping for yet another Sig...
Great review thank you.
Love My P229 Elite Scorpion FDE Fantastically accurate and reliable. The smoothest shooting low recoil 40cal I’ve ever shot. Worth every penny!
Hey!
I just subd’ to ur channel...I’ve seen (2) vids...this one and the Glock 19 one!
Up till’ now I own both...keep up the good work!
Great review as always J! I just starting shooting 229 rx which been nothing but stellar. Just tad more accurate than my old gen4 19 mos . Just keep mind most ccw insurance won’t cover you if a modified gun used . Not a hit on you J . Most people don’t read fine print . Your spot on about sigs ( all metal guns ) . P365 I just purchased is on its way back to sig broken striker
Just wondering Jay if you have shot the 229 in 40s&w 357 sig and what your experience was if any? K
Curious as to your take on the P229 Elite Legacy Classic Carry version?
Consistently excellent reviews. Thank you
Fantastic review!
You’re the first person I’ve heard actually state that philosophy - to (first) set up your gun to best survive a situation and thus be alive to (second) defend your modifications in court. It’s why we make the mods after all right? We like to tinker to be sure but I’d guess most mods are intended to be performance enhancements. Now the back plate with “Kill em all”...maybe not so much. Great videos! Keep them coming!
That's my mantra. I've been in some pretty close contact engagements in OIF and what a lot of people neglect to observe is that firefights happen in tenths of seconds. You want to save up those tenths by setting up your kit accordingly (within reason).
Modify I say. Just have it done by a papered Gunsmith. Self modified guns can't be easily defended.
@@bubzbarrerabarrera5838 This.
Thank you for explaining the serrations. I was trying to order a holster and most manufacturers want you to specify full, or half serrations. But I didn't know what the hell they were talking about.
great video sir. i really enjoyed!
What measurement did you use for the fiber optic sight?
I’m looking to snag the select model it’s got a smaller beaver tail srt trigger g10 grips and the controls of the legion as you said for the people who will depress the slide stop
Thanks for sharing and your suggestion about changing the slide release, I think it is a good option. I had problems with my thumb and the slide catch/release as you denoted. I did change the mechanism on the P226 to the one designed for the P224. For me that solved the problem.
Short reset very close to 225A1 trigger which is sweet ( as I know you already reviewed ) . Love 225A1 which I don’t have a problem with the round count because I know I going to get my hits .
Can you stick a 15-round magazine into the 13-round p229, if you modified the grips?
For the Dawson precision sites I couldn't find the p229 dark elite model, would the p226 dark elite model still fit
With these sights does it shoot poa/poi? I bought one woth aftermarket sights and it shoots way low and am lookin at the dawsons. Was this the charger set or did you have to guy the front and back seperate?
I'm curious what kind of gun you have for competition?
Glad I came across you my friend. I carry a 229 legion with Romeo 1 pro edc. And yes it’s easier being not a bigger guy around. Great channel brother keep up the honest work for just every day guys. I’m subbing today. Looks like your past Leo also ?
Your right carrying hammer fired gun is indeed much safer ,plus restrike capability is always good . K
I have the same exact p229 dark elite, all OEM though. My grips are silver in color though.
Have the 229 enhanced elite great gun very accurate
Great review of my favorite handgun .... Lucky me, I just got lucky, I have a 25 year plus P229 that was made in W. Germany in SW40 several years ago I was able to buy from SIG a 22Lr conversation slide and a 9mm slide with night sights and two 15 round 9mm mags that sit flush, that's probably because it originally came in SW40, i have seen reviews of these old P229 from W.Germany compared to the the P229 legends and the trigger is better on the W Germany model than the new ones. I love my P229 and I will ever get rid it for any amount of cash
EXCELENT REVIEW.
love the huge mim extractor
When did you get this gun? Can I still find this online?
What dose your holster looks like that carries modified funs?
Nice job....Thank You!
Where did you find that inforce wl? Can’t seem to find them anywhere
Clarify. Was the Da/Sa trigger action the BEST out of the box or after the Grey 3 spring package.? You emphasized Grey then went on to rave about out of the box trigger. Step out and say
Did you install the SIG Enhanced Leverage System with the flat faced trigger or just the flat faced trigger?
Your 229 Elite is very similar to my 229 Legion except yours doesn’t have the undercut trigger guard. I love the 229 platform. Excellent guns.
Takes the same amount of time to cock that hammer as it does to disengage a manual safety. Great review. In my opinion the p229 legion is the best handgun ever made.
Keep in mind that you can also purchase a Mec-Gar 18 round mag made for the 226 that will fit in this 229 (it will also fit the Taurus G2C). I have this same tool, 229 Elite. Mine also has the GG flat trigger, Crimson Trace laser grip and a Big Dot sight installed. This is, IMO, the best carry pistol. I have never had a hang-up of any kind... ZERO. No FTE's, FTF's. This gun just works. All the time.
please review some sig 226 models.
I like Dawson, I like those , siglights are good as is Xray but adjustable is the way to go.
I recently purchased the P229 Enhanced Elite with the E2 grips.
Purchased a P229 Enhanced Elite with the E2 Grips last year. Absolutely love it.
Very good J. I appreciate & enjoy your vids. Thanks for service to country in every way. I have been leaning toward a P226 or P227 Legion. Your Elite is quite a bit like a Legion after all is said and done. Did you give any consideration to the Legion before you decided on the Elite. Any advice for anyone considering a P226 over a P229. The 229 doesn't seem significantly smaller or lighter IMO. Thank you again.
The released the 227 Legion?? Ive been waiting since the 229 was released.
Drew James Very sorry. They have not yet. Only 220 thus far. I confused the communication. I am expecting they will. Surprised they haven't. I mainly am interested in first hand experience in carry between the 226 & 229. Am I going to regret going 226 over 229 in size. Mecgar mags hold 18 rounds I believe in 9mm. Thanks. Forgive the confusion.
So, the next Legion guns I know of will be P229 SAO and the 938. Next year may be the P227. I have owned the Legion in both P229 and P226. Both were great guns but most of the features can be replicated for less money if you get a good deal on the elite guns.
J Helmsing Good man. Very good to know. I have been considering the 226 or 229 for some time but haven't taken the step for $$$. Been running poly-guns for a bit. I am missing the DA SA from the past. The Legion sparked the desire a year ago. Lord bless.
As always, Great Video super informative. Question....what do you think is a better overall shooter This Sig 229 or the Sphinx SDP Compact? I shot the Sig Legion today and was really surprised how much I liked it. I have seen many videos stating that it has a high bore axis and there is more felt recoil and muzzle flip, which is why I wasn’t interested in the Sigs. However after shooting one today, I found it to be super comfortable to shoot. I shot it well. I’m in between the Sig and the Sphinx. Both felt great in the hand. Very similar in comfort and feeling solid.
Probably the P229
J Helmsing thanks for responding, any reason why you prefer the Sig? Not many people have shot both as the Sphinx isn’t as well know as Sig. Since you shot both, why the Sig?
@@anthonycaldi7056 mainly because the Sphinx isn't super smooth as far as the trigger goes in DA. Most Sig hammer guns are just butter smooth. The Sig guns with the SRT also have a shorter reset. Add in the fact that classic P series pistols have a strong aftermarket and that is definitely the way I'd go.
J Helmsing All good points! Appreciate the feedback!
Try the reset on a cz p10c also the canik tp9 elite is really nice short crisp reset.
Excellent review. You think you could do a video of the Gray guns Spring kit? Maybe a before after weight would be cool, I’ve been considering changing my 229 Scorpion Springs but not sure it’s worth the hassle. Thanks.
I am probably going to move to do equipment reviews in the future. I've done several of these spring kits so I can talk through the process fairly easily. The bottomine is that it is absolutely a worthwhile change.
J Helmsing Awesome, thanks. Like I said, the frame wasn’t too bad but the slide I haven’t even messed with. I’ve taken Glocks down completely, but sigs are on another level.
Would you trade a brand new 226r (with the E2 grips) 9mm for a 229 elite? Was thinking might be easier to conceal carry...thoughts?
It would definitely be better for a CCW. If you are after something more concealable it would probably be worth looking into.
Love and carry my 229 legion almost everyday
Just a point about mags. Mec Gar does make 15 rnd flush fit mags for the P228/ P229. Mec Gar also makes 18 rnd flush fit mags for the P226 and 20 rnd mags are available (18 rnd mags with the +2 baseplate).
Had a sig 229 9mm w/night sights about twenty years ago. I never got along with it on the account of the high bore axis. I could’ve sworn I also had one in .40, and was kind of meh about it as well. In my 30’s, pistols only had a temporary residency in my home while I was searching for others. Looking back, My dislike of those two pistols was my own personal failing. At the time I was all about Wilson CQB .45 ACP, Clint Smith, Col. Cooper and all that discipline. I never really gave the Sig pistols a fair chance. Live and learn I guess.
I carry a P229 and an extra magazine. If someone can’t carry one due to size they shouldn’t be carrying. Weight is your friend, and the mag capacity helps, but it all comes down to shot placement. Badass Sig.
Is it possible to have the extended beaver tail removed? I’m guessing it’s an extension of the aluminum frame and would require custom machining? Removing the beaver tail would make this the perfect firearm.
Why would you want to remove the beavertail? Just buy a gun with the standard frame
J. M . Youngquist because the standard frame does not feature the front cocking serrations and the checkered grip on the handle. You
@@tylersparrow9283 Good reason. I see your point.
Anyone know where to get these grips?
Where do I get a flat trigger at?? For one
J first thank u for Service and ongoing..J don't let the haters bother u man u awesome I wish I had half ur training and if I knew where u lived when shtf I would head to ur house for orders.. I believe survivability would be high around u.. awesome vid I have a 229 I enjoyed the vid very much good day to u sir
Thank you sir!
My Sig 40 229 Elite has a problem with the grip cover screws falling out after a magazine or two.
America First have you tried lock tight?
I'm stuck between this n the legion. Mainly wondering about that trigger guard undercut and if it makes it feel better to me.
For all the right reasons the legion is a better gun. I purchased the P220 10mm legion which in itself is different from other legions. All stainless steel and shoots like a 9mm, super accurate and great follow up shots.
Under cut is great and extra serrations on the front of the guard and the bottom of the guard.
Does the inforce fit tight or loose like on polymer pistols?
Tight
What light is that?
I honestly love my HK's but for some reason I always carry the Springfield xdm. 20 rds and the grip safety which allows me piece of mind with a safety that I dont have to worry about disengaging.
Love all my sigs nightmare carry,ultra compact tribal,226 legion,m11a1,938..... but carry my hkp2000sk the most 😁😁😁😁
Wonder if it’s 9mm or .40 cal or maybe the .357 🧐p229 is my all time favorite, fits really nice in my palm in .40 cal
Try the P220 10mm legion, it'll answer all with a few surprises.
I’ve always very much enjoyed your reviews and have gotten a lot out of them. I came across this one and it seems you haven’t posted anything new in quite a while. Hope things are okay.
Do you have a different channel somewhere else?
The only meaningful difference among pistols is what happens 25 yds. down range on an 8 in. target . Most people can shoot about 5 rounds before muscle fatigue affects holding ability. Shooting gets better with a pistol that allows a solid grip, and has a heavy slide to force a stronger hand grip and mitigate recoil and muzzle flip. Plastic bricks don't lend themselves to marksmanship. High capacity magazines are a psychological crutch. You're only out-gunned if you miss.
Are all 229 elite models aluminum framed or just certain ones?
All as far as I'm aware.
Great overview! I have my Mk25 with the Sig enhanced package done to it after 1 million rds shot through it.
It will be interesting to see how the Sig 229 Legion will stack up against it! Thank you for your time!
Did you say you have 1M rds thru your mk25?
If that’s true, that is quite impressive. How long have you owned it and how often do you shoot?
I’ve heard of 2-300K rds with some weapons but have never heard of someone actually having put a Mil thru one gun, no matter the brand.
Another question, how many barrels has it gone thru, cuz I’m interested and will be tellin this story to a few fellow gun guys cuz that’s amazing!
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What holster do you use with the inforce light
A custom Neptune Concealment holster
Is it double action gun
I've had a slam fire with this platform. Used to be my go to piece.😔
Nice review. FWIW Mec Gar (one of two oem mag manufacturers for Sig) does make 18rd flush mags for the 226. Not sure why Sig does not rebrand them. Just noticed your comment about why 229 vs 226 at same mag size.
Mec-gar makes awesome mags. Thanks for the info!
They are not flush mags nor are they 18 round. They have an extension which holds 17 rounds
Richard Jurewicz www.mec-gar.com/pistol-magazines/Sig-Sauer/SIG-SAUER-P226-18-High-Cap-Flush-Fit
Actually they do and they are flush fit. I was referring to the 226.
@@clayreddig2435 I have this same mag. It fits flush in my Legion 226 but there is a small gap when I use it in my 229. BUT, when carrying concealed, who cares what it looks like as long as it works? AND IT DOES WORK, PERFECTLY. It's not a large gap but it's there. 18+1 is still better than 15+1.
Would this sig p229 elite make a good production gun in uspsa competition?
Most people lean to the larger full sized guns for production like the P226. It won't be a slouch by any means but the P226 would be better suited.
P226 X5 is what you want.
Would just like to point out that all P-series guns have an internal safety that blocks the firing pin when you use the decocker. So if you chamber a round and decock using the lever you can drop the gun on the hammer and it will not fire. If you manually decock the hammer like you have to with a beretta m9/92 you would be bypassing this safety feature.
Man, THANK YOU J! EXCELLENT IDEA FORNTHE SLIDE RELEASE BRO! I FEEL LIKE AN IDIOT - NEVER THOUGHT OF SWITCHING IT OUT FOR THE SMALLER 224 RELEASE!!!! JUST SUBSCRIBED BRO - SS P226 - 229 ARE OVERALL THE MOST DEPENDABLE-ACCURATE PISTOLS AVAILABLE. MY DAD WOULD TRY TO ARGUE GLOCK19 BUT HE'S NEVER OUTSHOT ME ON THE RANGE AND HE'S HAD TO DEAL WITH A FEW MISFIRES AND OR MALFUNCTIONS WHEREAS I NEVER HAVE NOT EVEN ONCE. IF YOU'RE SOMEONE WHOSE OCCUPATION COULD PLACE YOU IN THE LINE OF FIRE AND YOUR SIDEARM COULD BE THE DIFFERENCE IN LIFE OR DEATH - LOOK NO FURTHER MY FRIENDS. SAME GOES FOR HOME PROTECTION. I KNOW MY WEAPON IS GOING TO FIRE AND FIRE ACCURATELY BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT WHETHER IT BE MY 1ST OR MY 1,000TH SHOT. IF SOMETHING WERE TO GO WRONG IT WOULD BE DUE TO USER ERROR OR MALFUNCTION NOT THE WEAPON. ALSO IF YOU'RE A RELATIVELY NEW SHOOTER OR EVEN AN EXPERIENCED MARKSMAN - WHAT J SAYS ABOUT MISFIRES IN STRIKER TYPE PISTOLS IS VERY VERY REAL AND HAPPENS MORE THAN YOU'D IMAGINE TO SHOOTERS FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND EXPERIENCE LEVELS. NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE ALL GARBAGE BUT ANY RISK I CAN CUT OUT WHILE NOT LOSING ANY NOTABLE EFFICIENCY OR EFFECTIVENESS IS A NO BRAINER. I CAN RAPID FIRE (MORE ACCURATELY) AT THE SAME RATE OR EVEN FASTER WITH MY SIG.
3:30 That’s one hell of an important point and very easily forgotten by the guntubers. Are you a Leo? I’m about to get my CCW and new to guns in general; your videos are gold!
Xd-9 or p229?
Nice review, im only 8min into the video, but how come you didn't go with a 229 Legion? I regret trading my 229.
I've had both a 229 Legion and a 226 Legion. Both were great guns, but I didn't care for the X-ray 3 sights (specifically the front) and really the only true upgrade is the undercut frame. Everything else can be replicated for less money. 800$ or so is about my threshold for a carry gun.
What kind of trigger did you put in there?
Grayguns double adjustable straight trigger.
Video Starts at 5:15
What’s the difference between the 229 and M11 a1?
Not much really, the M11 has a bobbed frame, no rail, some corrosion resistant parts, SRT trigger and some M11 markings and "P228" grips. Mechanically it's a P229-1, just in a bit more concealable layout.
Well said brotha .. I modified my guns also.
3:20 It's not an opinion, It's an absolute fact and your God given right to defend your family and yourself by any means necessary. If you can modify it for the better, go ahead!
What holster are you using?
(I copied and pasted this message that I left on another reply on a comment further up. I just didn't feel like typing the same thing all over again, BUT)... I used to wear a traditional, IWB Kydex holster for my 229 (and sometimes my 226). I discovered belly bands and never went back. With the belly band, I can wear almost any gun, any size, any weight. The belly band allows me to wear it a little higher up on my body and since the band carries the full weight of the firearm, I'm not always having to lift my pants up on my strong side. It lets the belt do what it's supposed to do... hold my pants up! PLUS, it nice when you have to go to the bathroom in a public place and not have to mess with finding a place to put my gun after unbuckling my belt.
I have to laugh when I hear people talk about "how hard it is to conceal full size guns.". LOL
MY EDC is the FNX 45 Tactical with a 5.3" threaded barrel, suppressor height sights, a Trijicon RMR, and a double stack 15 round magazine... plus at least one extra magazine, sometimes TWO.... LOL
Hey Man... if you can hide it, CARRY IT. That's awesome.
@@cannondaleman1 I carry it every day, everywhere... LOL
@@jimyowell850 Cool. Stay safe!
@@cannondaleman1 And you as well!
Where has J. Helmsing gone?
Can you also use the p224 side catch to make it smaller
Yes you can.
J Helmsing if you don’t mind me asking did you leave the stock one or change it to the p224 or the legion?
I changed it on one gun and then I believe I left it alone (stock) on another.
J Helmsing ok awesome thank you. I purchased this pistol today and your video was very informative and was actually what made up my mind to do so. Trying to get the gray gun flat trigger but they currently out of stock at the moment. I would really love to know of anything else you would recommend. Again thank you for all the information.
Nice, I still prefer the Beretta 92 series especially with the G conversion
azerious85 funny you mention that. I have a 92 compact review coming up.
You're still CCW'ing your M9A1 Compact correct? Replacing my 92G with one later this week.
Yessir! Dropping today.
love the Berettas and when I don't have my M&P it surely is my M9A1 Beretta . take care yall .
Have you ever owned and CZ Products?
Yes, several.