This is a perfect discussion, really refreshing, the connections that are being made across myriad of topics beautifully illuminates the symmetries of our culture and reality. Thanks I feel inspired to stay the course and start studying for my board exams. ❤
Thank you for this splendid discussion, it was a joy listening to you. One detail though: Actually, people had much healthier teeth in Neolithic times than in the Roman empire and even more than in modern days. Refined sugar and greedy dentists damage teeth.
Great conversation - always good to mix up my binging esoteric, conflicting consciousness theories with a healthy bit of scepticism about all of them 😅
Topic of free will is always interesting. My emotions are having a hard time accepting it's based on not knowing what's going to happen and not knowing how life works. When I'm not paying attention to this I'm having thoughts where free will is playing a role even though I know I only have a 'will'. Free will or not I'm still making a choice.Judging myself or others doesn't make any sense anymore I'm happy with determinenism because it makes the chance life will do what the creator wants way higher.
I respect Michael's scholarship and intellect. But my experience with religion growing up was not that people attended mass because they wanted to participate in some socratic argument about the existence of some other being. The real beauty of the mass and worship is belief in a source and summit of existence.
@@drtevinnaidu Something we hold in our hearts, seat of our emotions or perhaps the belief gives us our own autonomy and meaningfulness to life. There is a consistent message to biblical and religious traditions. To analyze religious beliefs in the absence of the power of civilization and civil authority is meaningless. Touching Terence Deacon's work on absence, the unjust corruption of civilization is the absence in the gospel. Tom Holland's thesis that crucifixion was the scandal of the Romans which you could not simply protest against. The gospels are a very clever disguise of protest against injustice and a way to express all human divinity.
@@petershelton7367 Very true but humans are not machines run by logic but rather passions, emotions, ego.....History and our present politics reveals this. In the end there may not be a god as we were taught it. But the point was the Western God in what we today call religions was an attack on the gods of the social orders of the world. Western history has proven to be a two steps forward one step back process. The secularization, industrialization and democritizaton of the West has had enormous benefits however it has also created a new array of gods and authorities.
Michael Shermer must have had his B12 shot that day. his neural nets were bebopping & scatting on more cylinders than usual. good luck with your channel.
Human intelligence, even animal intelligence recognises the value of deception. There can be no sure way to know if an AI is contained or concealing the intentions it evolved through its own learning.
Light carries information eg. holographic principle this makes me think evolution is not fumbling in the dark and all learning is conserved. So the biological models existing on earth may not be original or peculiar to each. Morphic resonance perhaps. Either way you have assumed that mind is a purely physical derived phenomena.
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Introduction
0:42 - The Null Hypothesis
5:00 - Popperian Falsification & Bayesian Reasoning
13:41 - Ontology vs Epistemology
18:39 - Anthropomorphising God & The Fermi Paradox
25:08 - Non-Human Biologics & Teleology
35:32 - The Lamarckian Fallacy
40:15 - Skepticism 101 (Biases & Fallacies)
55:45 - Hard Problem of Consciousness & Mind-Body Skepticism
1:02:15 - Navigating Beyond Materialism
1:08:43 - Free Will (Self-Determined) & Moral Responsibility
1:30:36 - Idealogies & Conspiracies
1:37:38 - Sentience & Metacognition
1:46:27 - Extraterrestrials & Artificial Intelligence
1:53:27 - Protopia
1:59:48 - Signal Detection Problems & Truth
2:04:15 - Magic & Illusions
2:08:46 - Conclusion
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Shermer evokes a grudging smile from me. What goof. He reminds us that the Skeptical Movement of the oughts wasn't just a fever dream.
This is a perfect discussion, really refreshing, the connections that are being made across myriad of topics beautifully illuminates the symmetries of our culture and reality. Thanks I feel inspired to stay the course and start studying for my board exams. ❤
Thanks so much! I'm really glad you found inspiration from the discussion. All the best with the exams!
Thank you for this splendid discussion, it was a joy listening to you. One detail though: Actually, people had much healthier teeth in Neolithic times than in the Roman empire and even more than in modern days. Refined sugar and greedy dentists damage teeth.
Thank you!
Great conversation - always good to mix up my binging esoteric, conflicting consciousness theories with a healthy bit of scepticism about all of them 😅
I agree 100% 💙 Glad you enjoyed it! :)
... "reality" (is-ness) is w-here&when, you, FINE-ALLY, "find", you ...
Topic of free will is always interesting.
My emotions are having a hard time accepting it's based on not knowing what's going to happen and not knowing how life works.
When I'm not paying attention to this I'm having thoughts where free will is playing a role even though I know I only have a 'will'.
Free will or not I'm still making a choice.Judging myself or others doesn't make any sense anymore
I'm happy with determinenism because it makes the chance life will do what the creator wants way higher.
I respect Michael's scholarship and intellect. But my experience with religion growing up was not that people attended mass because they wanted to participate in some socratic argument about the existence of some other being. The real beauty of the mass and worship is belief in a source and summit of existence.
What is the source for you? :)
@@drtevinnaidu Something we hold in our hearts, seat of our emotions or perhaps the belief gives us our own autonomy and meaningfulness to life.
There is a consistent message to biblical and religious traditions. To analyze religious beliefs in the absence of the power of civilization and civil authority is meaningless. Touching Terence Deacon's work on absence, the unjust corruption of civilization is the absence in the gospel. Tom Holland's thesis that crucifixion was the scandal of the Romans which you could not simply protest against. The gospels are a very clever disguise of protest against injustice and a way to express all human divinity.
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Nothing to do with reality you could not have that believe by logic but by cultural learning.
@@petershelton7367 Very true but humans are not machines run by logic but rather passions, emotions, ego.....History and our present politics reveals this. In the end there may not be a god as we were taught it. But the point was the Western God in what we today call religions was an attack on the gods of the social orders of the world. Western history has proven to be a two steps forward one step back process. The secularization, industrialization and democritizaton of the West has had enormous benefits however it has also created a new array of gods and authorities.
So great 😊
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Good interview.
Thank you💙
Michael Shermer must have had his B12 shot that day. his neural nets were bebopping & scatting on more cylinders than usual. good luck with your channel.
Thank you! 💙
Human intelligence, even animal intelligence recognises the value of deception. There can be no sure way to know if an AI is contained or concealing the intentions it evolved through its own learning.
20 minutes in and I think your guest has said maybe two short sentences.
These topics generally require lengthier responses, so I don't blame him
Light carries information eg. holographic principle this makes me think evolution is not fumbling in the dark and all learning is conserved. So the biological models existing on earth may not be original or peculiar to each. Morphic resonance perhaps. Either way you have assumed that mind is a purely physical derived phenomena.
Sounds similar to Jude Currivan's approach. We chatted about this in our conversation. Would you say her view encapsulates this sentiment?