Jarome Iginla never won a Stanley Cup. Here's what left him empty-handed.
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2020
- Corrections: I mispronounced Gelinas and Lecavalier, and incorrectly labeled Nieminen as a defenseman. Thanks to everyone who pointed it out, always trying to get better so that’s genuinely appreciated.
Jarome Iginla was one of the most exciting players to watch. There were so many weapons to his game that made him a consistent threat his entire career. But the longtime Flame never got to hoist Lord Stanley's Cup despite finding himself incredibly close.
In Calgary the biggest issue was financial. It's honestly surprising he was able to stay a Flame as long as he did considering their history of being unable to retain superstar. But with Darryl Sutter handling both coach and GM duties, they made it work. Miikka Kiprusoff came over from San Jose to make the biggest difference. Iginla got help from Craig Conroy leading the hard hat crew of 2004 and ended a lengthy playoff drought by taking a long, winding road to the Final. There they met the Tampa Bay Lightning and combined for an incredible series.
Some might think the answer to why Iginla didn't win a Cup is as simple as "Martin Gelinas no goal in game six," which certainly contributes to it. But they still had another shot after that, and the series hadn't been without drama before then either.
Iginla found more opportunities outside of Calgary as well, jumping aboard the Penguins during 2013's lockout-shortened season to play alongside Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin. The league's top offense helped earn the Presidents' Trophy and found no issues through the first two rounds. Then they met the Bruins - the team Iginla could have joined instead of Pittsburgh. It went poorly.
Thankfully Iginla got a do-over and joined Boston for the following season, which like Pittsburgh looked to be a perfect fit. But rivalries tend to spoil things and Montreal did just that in an amazing seven-game series.
It was his last best chance. He came closer than so many, but further than seems fair considering the talent and mindset he maintained over a 20-year career. He's still always going to be one of the best, he's just also going to be untitled.
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This was a tough one that took a long time to finish because someone (me, Will) is bad at staying focused. There's a lot going on in the world right now, there are so many people feeling helpless or unheard or alone. I just want to say that we love y'all and if we can provide a distraction, even if it's just for 20 minutes, we hope that's something.
Sports are a welcome distraction, and SB nation presents a wonderful distillation of what makes sports great, but some things don't need to be distracted from.
Put out videos when it's right. We'll watch them. Don't worry.
Thank you
You should do a collapse on the Chicago Blackhawks. As a Chicago native it’ll hurt, but it needs to happen
@Soyboy ForJihad 2/10, weak bait. The name gave it away. Y'gotta walk that shitpost line invisibly.
If you do another hockey one, do Cujo
Patrick Marleau and Joe Thornton's untitled episode is going to be so so sad...
Marleau still has a chance with Pittsburgh
@@jasonfire3434 Thorton does too because it sounds like he wants to keep playing for a while, could end up getting traded at a deadline. To be honest though Henrik lundquist is more likely than both of them to get one of these videos
Sam Ortmann Henrik could get one with the Rangers he’d just have to be their third goaltender now that they Georgiev and Shesterkin
@@lucatartaglia4007 it's going to depend on whether compliance buyouts come back or not, Georgiev is in all likelihood going to be traded at the draft due to the Rangers completely mismanaging the cap, handing out nmc's to the wrong people and always biting the bullet in buyout roulette. Not to mention the 1.5 million we'd save would be nothing compared to the 8.5 we'd clear
Iggy took the money in Colorado, he had 3 very decent years left to push with a real time if he had wanted
His pronunciation of Gelinas was killing me
He then went on to flawlessly pronounce Khabibulin and Giguerre. Damn.
And Lecavalier
They need to watch old highlights to get the names right haha other than that they do some really good work
Plus Ville Nieminen wasn’t a defensemen as it shows left winger in his quote and showed Iggy in a Bruins jersey when he was still playing for the Pens. Story was done pretty well though. Still the only Flames jersey I’ve ever bought.
Seriously wtf
"Iginla Gave Everything he had to Calgary." Truer words have never been spoken. He was committed to the team, and for someone who grew up just outside of Edmonton (my hometown of St.Albert), not only did he commit himself to the Flames, he committed himself a team that, to the Oilers, is synonymous with the word "rival."
I'll always remembers how Jarome's involvement and success in Calgary made it difficult to be 100% behind the Oilers whenever the Flames were in town.
Growing up in Calgary as a first-gen Canadian, it was always so amazing to see a black player dominating the league, and being so classy and such a good role model off the ice... he's the reason I finally started playing hockey at age 27 after never having a chance to as a kid... still my favourite athlete to this day...
Really great story! So glad he inspired you. Iggy was one of my favourite non-Habs growing up. Pure class and one of the best Flames ever.
Amazing stuff man. As a fellow first-gen Canadian, Jarome is definitely my favourite athlete of all time as well. He was a massive inspiration to a lot of us first-gens. The way he conducted himself both on and off the ice demonstrated what it meant to be world class citizen.
Not many people dislike Jarome, even fans of Edmonton and Calgary. Rather like Sakic and Yzerman in terms of universal respect.
@Mike Schwab He's still black, and there's nothing wrong with that. Are you stupid or are you also racist?
Air Breathing Human black and whitr
Big fan of Jarome Arthur-Leigh Adekunle Tig Junior Elvis Iginla
Haha
I hear he strengthened his wrists writing his full name out in pencil.
@Willie Gordon Yep, isn't it awesome!
is that actually his name
@@jarodj1159 Yep, one of the coolest names.
As a Canucks fan it's always nice to see a Flames player fail, but as someone who saw Iggy help win gold in Vancouver and be a class act throughout his career I'll always respect him.
As a Flames fan, I reciprocate those feelings about the Sedins.
Also a Canucks fan here to show respect to Iggy
As a Canucks fan I wish both Iggy and the Sedins had won a cup
Iggy also led the Flames out to shake Linden’s hand when he retired.
Kai Lehtinen Haha exactly
I didn't see this one coming and I'm so happy to see it.
I first met Jarome when I was about two years old. He's been my favourite player my entire life. He is one of the kindest players off the ice. This might take a while.
As I mentioned earlier I first met him when I was two. My mother and I had moved to Calgary from Saskatoon after her branch office was shuttered, resulting in her transfer to Calgary. It was at the annual Townsend Tigers ball hockey game that is held at Alberta Children’s Hospital. I couldn't walk yet so I was in a wheelchair and since this was at the start of the 2000-01 season Iginla hadn't become the marquee star yet. Instead of playing on the Flames team, he pushed me around in the wheelchair. I don't remember much about it but I have a picture of him pushing me around.
I met him a couple more times before I moved back to Saskatoon in 2003. This was in time for the 2003-04 run, I was enthralled and my mom let me stay up way past bedtime, so did my dad when I visited him. I was devastated by the loss, however, in addition to that, the night of the Game 7 somebody stole a Calgary Flames car flag that I had grown attached to. My mom brought the story to the attention of one of Saskatoon's local TV stations, we were interviewed and everything. People sent me all kinds of Flames memorabilia, I was also mailed an authentic jersey by the Flames themselves.
My mom and dad were never really happy after 2000 and by 2004 they had separated. After the final my mom decided that we would move to Kelowna, to be closer to her parents who had retired there. I attended Raymer Elementary in the fall, and by sheer coincidence my new PE teacher lived right next to Jarome's summer home. So every year from Grade 2-4 Iginla would pass along a gift to my PE teacher that I would get in September. I remember he gave me a signed poster one year. This made me like Iginla still more, he was, in a way, a constant in my life.
Since he would come to Kelowna every summer I once got the chance to watch him and Chuck Kobasew play indoor soccer, I was awe-struck when they came to talk to me afterwards. I had brought a small Flames flag with me, I already had some signatures on it, but I didn't have Iginla's. I couldn't even talk to them I was so amazed.
I moved up the Okanagan Valley when my mom remarried, so I no longer had the same PE teacher. However, when Iginla played his first game in Calgary as a Bruin my mom took me there. We went to the Bruins open practice beforehand, I was again too nervous to go up but my mom got Iggy to sign my Heritage Classic jersey. It was amazing to be in the Saddledome for that.
A few years later Iginla had gone to the Avalanche. I went to the Vancouver Canucks young stars challenge with my step-dad in 2017, we were at the Flames-Jets matchup. It just so happened that we sat near Joe Sakic, I spent the entire first intermission talking to Joe - I even had to remind him that people were asking him for autographs. After all was done he gave me my email and promised to tell Jarome I said "hi."
Finally, once Iginla retired I wrote him one last letter in 2018. Throughout his career, I would write him letters and he would always reply. I knew he had settled in Boston so I did some digging around to find his address. In the letter I thanked him for everything that he had been for me growing up. I sent him the picture of him pushing me in the chair, my grad photos, as well as a card I had of him on the Avalanche for him to sign - by that point his signature on my jersey had washed off, we didn't have a permanent marker that day. For a bit a thought my letter had been lost in the mail, until in December I got an unmarked envelope with American stamps.
Iggy sent his reply on card stock he had left over from his time in Calgary, it reads:
Cole,
I enjoyed the letter and pictures you sent, time sure does fly, eh!
Best Wishes
Jarome (his signature)
P.S. I've included a rookie card.
He didn't return the Avalanche card I sent him, he instead gave me one of his own rookie cards.
I don't know whether he was this way with everyone, but he is truly a special person. One day I hope to write a book about him, I'm studying Poli-Sci/History so I plan on becoming an author in addition to a professional. He's still my favourite player, you can't replace that.
Yea, that sounds like Iggy. Class act. Always hoped him living here in Kelowna would mean he would end up playing for the Canucks. Can you imagine the damage he could have done with the Sedins? (Admittedly, someone would have to switch something up for that to happen, but it’s fun to dream)
Cole Wintringham That is a wonderful story. I bet Iginla feels good when he hears your name.
Good stuff! He's truly a great person. He also continues to be my favorite athlete of all time
I had family that lived in Tampa at the time and me, being an 8 year old small town Canadian kid, stopped talking to them for a year after Tampa won the cup. I was so pissed.
Riley Elliott do you live in Calgary( just wondering because Calgary is not a small town. i’m not trying to be a creep or something)
That’s petty, even for a kid.
TTH247 not petty enough
@@supervision4137 nope, lived in Ontario my whole life
Riley Elliott oh
As a native Calgarian and fan. This guy redefined what it was for a "home" team to me and most people i know here. You could see him in the city all year with his family. He would gladly take photos with you and just be the nicest person. He went to City events of his own volition.. and when we went on the 04 run.. its was a bitter sweet end. sure we wanted the cup.. but Calgary loves the people who love Calgary. We are a often forgotten and overshadowed city.. so we have always appreciated players (Great or horrible) who choose us. Its why we like Johnny and Chucky. Love you Iggy
As I diehard flames fan this was kinda tough to watch but I love hockey content on this channel.
As penguins fan Neal is reason. We failed
i feel the exact same way😖
was 6 years old during the 04 playoff run and hockey was everything to me. got tears watching this
Same as an Avs fan. He wasn't here in Colorado for long, but he was a hell of a hockey player.
He was so close in 04.
4:32 No, we’re talking about the Miikka Kiprusoff that went 319-213-71 in his career with 44 shutouts, a 2.49 GAA, a .912 SV%, a Vezina, and a William M. Jennings trophy in only a 12 year career.
A complete player. An Olympic gold hero to Canada. A hockey legend. A consummate professional. A million dollar smile that sold the game well. One of the best wristers of all time!
We now need one of these on the Sedins
It would be painful to watch, but that video is needed
YES PLEASE
a quick reminder that they sent Brian Burke signed, framed jerseys when he retired, with a thank you note. They did this unprompted too.
Facts.
Yikes, an entire tragic opera could be written on why that Canucks team couldn't deliver a cup. It's 2020 and a considerable amount of my brain is still devoted to listing all the reasons why that didn't happen.
I'll prepare my drink for your release of the Lundqvist version of this video.
Rangerstown00 facts
I had to see the Ewing one, now the Lundqvist. That will be hard. Let's just hope we give better fortune to Igor and Adam Fox.
Much love to Iggy. A great teammate and a true leader who assisted one of the most important goals of the 21st century. Maybe not a Stanley Cup champion, but he earned those two Olympic golds and is one of the best Flames ever!
This one bums me out. Loved Jarome as a player and by all accounts he's also just a great dude. Deserved a better fate in 2004.
Finally my time to shine. Jarome was born in the same city I was, and I live right beside jerome Iginla arena. His cousin was in my class and I've seen jarome so much that he's just kind of a guy to me. Got all my fanboying out after the golden goal. But he's a really nice guy, especially to kids. Thanks for being so cool jarome
LOL you literally spelt his name wrong 3/4 times 😂
@@borismuller86 1/4 because his name is spelled Jarome. And that one misspelling could have been autocorrect on a phone. Way to fall flat with a joke!
@@borismuller86 'Spelt' is a type of grain. "Spelled" is a superior version for the past tense of 'spell'. Jarome has an A in his name. You should acknowledge your mistakes.
Always liked Iginla, regardless of me being a Canucks fan. Class act and an unbelievable player. I do hope SB Nation does an "Untitled" for the Sedin twins tho
That's how I felt with Markus Naslund and Trevor Linden. Great players who didnt win the cup.
With their relatively recent retirement ceremony that would be a great story to cover.
I feel the same way about the Sedins. Play for a terrible team 😉 but awesome players and even better people.
Agreed, as a kid I remember being upset watching the Flames knock us out in the playoffs on their run to the finals lol
Hats of to Iginla though! Everything you'd want in a hockey player that's for sure
As someone who got to watch Iginla on a nightly basis, one of the classiest moves was no doubt on the night of Linden's final game when half of the Flames team was already in the dressing room only to be called back out by Iginla to show respect to another hockey great.
one of the greatest to ever play the game. Even after leaving the Flames, he was a force on every team he played for, even in the twilight of his career with the LA Kings. His assist on Crosby's golden goal in 2010 is one of the most pivotal and significant moments in hockey history. The majority of his 625 goals came without playing alongside linemates of his calibre either, and he literally dragged the Flames through the mud for 16 seasons (with the help of a few other notable players like Kipper along the way). His resume speaks for itself, and the fact that he was snubbed from the NHL's "100 greatest players" list is an absolute crime. He may not have won a cup, but he ended his career as a champion. Next stop, the Hall of Fame.
Thank you for covering my favourite forward in NHL history (despite being a Flyers fan).
Iggy was absolutely robbed of his only chance at a Cup, and it's so disappointing.
100% one of the greatest athletes to ever go untitled.
I would love to see one of these on Marcel Dionne, Pat LaFontaine, or Henrik Lundqvist in about a year.
Joe Thorton.
Lundqvist has one more chance this year
Marcel Dionne is the 80s version of Shane Doan/Paul Kariya
musyarofah1 Marcel Dionne is 100x better than both of them
@@irgids absolutely
This one is gonna make me cry even before i watch
10:16 "Iginla again led the way in scoring" was pretty amazing
we need the sedin twins episode
Why, there's enough of those. /yawn
I think a collapse episode would be good as well
Sisters*
foursights if you can’t acknowledge their greatness after they’ve moved on then you’re just not a hockey fan...
@@Sedibus23 if they were so great they would have won lol
Sedin Twins Untitled
Nah no one would care. A lot of people liked Jarome around the league, and he was fairly well liked among other fanbases. No one outside Vancouver or maybe Canada cares about the Sedins. Sorry. Just a fact.
@@wyomingptt Definitely agree that Iginla is so well liked around the league, but the Sedins were TWINS who played together on the same team their entire career. And while it's hard to say as a Boston fan, they were so good it's incredible. It's the most nuts duo that's ever been in the NHL
Iggy was a true testament to how the game should be played. Looking at all of those quotes, he never shifted the blame. Thank you for this beautiful (albeit somewhat painful) trip down memory lane!
He was my favourite player growing up, this hurts to watch...
Iginla has and will always be my favorite hockey player ever, its so sad he never got his cup, but he did so much for the city of Calgary and for hockey itself, he will go down as one of the best to ever lace'em'up
Damn. I have NEVER heard someone pronounce Lecavalier like that!!
How about Gélinas?
Do Henrik Sedin and Daniel Sedin next!
He did in 2004 , Love this dude. Class act his whole career, and that trade for Nieuwendyk was 1000% worth it.
God, I loved Iginla. Especially when we was with the Penguins.
Played the game the right way. Always loved watching him play.
SB Nation Sunday baby
As someone who grew up idolizing Iginla and cheering for the flames through thick and thin, this video is just amazingly done.
Officially the best video you guys have ever made imo. Iggy was my favorite player growing up and is a golden example of what a captain is supposed to be in the NHL. Lead by example, play hard, stick up for your teammates, and never ask something of your fellow players that you wouldn’t do yourself. Iginla was, is, and always will be. THE MAN.
I adore these
But please for the love of god do a Steven Gerard untitled for the premier league
If not do a Man U v Liverpool beef history
What about Man U v Arsenal? Keane v Viera was pretty amazing.
Boris Müller do that after
I dig the Untitled series. Need to see them for Roberto Luongo and Fran Tarkenton
SB: puts out any kind of hockey content at all
Me: *loops it until the next hockey video comes out*
Hey Joe Thorton, on the bright side, you're gonna get a great episode of Untitled
Le-calv-ull-yay
Lecavalier
Hear how he pronounced Gelinas? 🤢
@@stephenbailinC7GS Haha, americans try, they really do lol
@@stephenbailinC7GS gull in ass
Ye stuck one too many L's in there
Don't like the Habs, but fair play. Made me Chuckle. j'aime beaucoup mon ami
So hyped every time a hockey episode comes out please do more!
During the lockout, the league changed the rules to effectively prohibit the Flames' hard-nosed defensive style. The NHL wanted high-flying offensive hockey, but that wasn't Sutter's game.
I may be an oilers fan, but in game 6 that was a god damn goal.
@@staringatthesun861 At the time, with the technology they had on site, if it had gone to review it would have been called a goal.
@@jstreim It was and would have been called a goal.
Lifelong Kings fan. It was in.
Justin Streim
Bruins fan. That puck was in. Tampa owes their single accomplishment to a lack of technology and a failure to call a trip in 2OT that left Martin St Louis unguarded for the game winner.
Amen
I’ve been requesting this for a long time. I’m happy to see that you guys actually did it. Thank you all so much
As a HABS fan, I remember that game 7 vs the bruins. our city was going mad crazy..
beating one of the best teams in the regular season. what a feeling!
But after watching this video,
I'm not gonna lie it's the FIRST time in my LIFE I feel bad for a BRUINS player.
What an inspirational athlete IGIINLA! true legend
I’m a simple man: I see a SB Nation hockey video, I click on it
He got scammed in 04’, I’m not even a Flames fan, but the puck crossed the line.
Idk how many times I've heard this, but every time they seem to ignore that even if it had counted Tampa still would've had plenty of time to tie it up again. It was hardly a guarantee that they would've won had it counted.
@@cyan5161 plus there was two entire overtimes and an entire ass other game for them to win.
It was still 2-2 going into OT, so theoretically, the Flames would’ve won that game had the goal counted.
**one entire overtime and part of a second overtime
@@cyan5161 with that logic, why didnt tampa score to win in regulation. There was 7 minutes left in the game when it happened so very well could be been the cup winning goal if it counted.
This was absolutely fantastic great work guys
I love the hockey content you guys post, and I’m speaking for everyone when I say you guys should continue to make more hockey videos. Especially within the Untitled and Beef History series. Some of the best work on the internet keep up the amazing work!
We gotta get a Dan Marino one
This one needs to get to the top
pls no. dont want to see the niners win again
Barkley, Ewing, Malone, and Stockton all need ones as well
@@coreyrowe2598 Barkley has one.
@@coreyrowe2598 his was the 1st untitled.
I felt it was a truly a privilege to watch him play for my Boston Bruins even if it was only for one year. True pro
If he had come to the Bruins the year before he would have put Boston over the top against Chicago and got a ring.
As a Flames fan, I had goosebumps at the end. Thanks for a great video Will
Favourite video from my favourite channel. I love this!
Man
I forgot how great he really was. As a wild fan, I remember hating him so much because of how great he was against us. I honestly forgot the Flames made the finals in his career.
Happy to see hockey being highlighted here.
But I'm still looking forward to the Reggie Miller episode
They should just put every good player from the 90s besides the Bulls and Hakeem in the same video
Even though Iggy's tenure in Boston was brief, he's still a legend to us
My idol, and fav player of all time. Thanks for the video!
"Why did Jarome Iginla never win a championship?"
Michael Jordan: Allow me to introduce myself
...wait wrong video
Jordan has 6
Thing is, there wasn't really a MJ-like figure standing in his way. Few people won two championships during his tenure.
We knew this would be ugly
#1 Reason. It is the toughest League.
Joe Fords I.E Detroit Red wings and Pittsburgh Penguins.
Y e s
It is, though. You can be the most skilled player in the league and not even come close to contending since you can only play for about 20 minutes per game on top of just having a goalie stand on his head. Unlike baseball, you can’t change the outcome of a 3-0 game with a swing of a bat, you need to score 4 unanswered goals while not letting another one through your own net. Then there’s the skill barrier. Pretty much anyone can put up a shot in basketball, soccer, or tennis. But in hockey, you have to be able to know how to skate (which is already a huge skill divide since most Americans can’t or haven’t skated) maintain balance and apply strength regardless of whether you’re putting up a wrist shot, slap shot, snap shot, one timer, or deke. All in which require a different form in order to just get the shot off. Then there’s timing, especially with dekes and one timers. Too early, and you won’t the shot off. Too late, and you’ve committed a turnover. The hardest part is the accuracy. Goaltenders with their current equipment can easily save 910 out of 1,000 shots they face assuming they are properly positioned and don’t get caught up in odd man rushes. This means that your accuracy can and will dictate how often you’re able to score. You can go top shelf and risk the goaltender making a glove or stick save, you can go low for a rebound and risk an easy pad save that gets covered up for a faceoff, you could go five hole, but the butterfly position makes this option impossible. The most effective way to score is cross crease. Even this isn’t viable since the defense in today’s league has no issue getting in front of a shot. And then there’s just bad luck goals that nobody could have possibly prevented, be they deflections, bad angle rebounds, knucklepucks, teammates accidentally screening their goalie, or man advantage (odd man rush or special teams). Even the rules make this game so hard to win since the NHL uses a 3 point system to determine winners quickly. Did you win in regulation? You get 2 points, they get 0. Did you win in overtime? You get 2 points, they get 1. Did it go to a shootout (which is a completely illegitimate way to break a tie and you know it)? You still get 2 points, they still get 1 point, but the shootout points don’t count in the case of a tiebreaker in the season standings. This brings the conundrum of NHL .500 as well as an illusion of parity. Sure, we’re last in the division right now, but we’re only 8 points behind the division leader and we have 2 games in hand! It doesn’t matter that our goal differential is horrible and we’ve lost 5 straight games, we’re still in the thick of it because we got points for losing! Like I mentioned before, NHL .500 is a disease that forces bad teams to think they’re better than they actually are. If a team is 30-30-22, they’ve won 30 games, lost 30 games in regulation, and lost another 22 games in overtime/shootouts. Despite being a horrible team, that’s 82 points and NHL .500, so this team may be motivated to spend in free agency instead of trying to build upon their bad season by looking to the draft and/or farm system. Everybody’s competing whether they want to be or not.
Such an awesome video. Iggy was definitely one of my idols growing up. Very disappointing that he never got to lift Lord Stanley... keep making more hockey videos! Absolutely love em
Great video. That series loss to Montreal in 2014 was a tragedy for Boston fans. Iginla was great here.
Also wanted to add he does a ton of charity work and always immerses himself in the community to help those in need no matter what their background is.
Thank god I will never see ovi on this series
Who?
I’m so happy we’ll never see him here
@@jamaalsjourney Alex Ovechkin
Should do this for more nhlers like peter stastny or marcell Dionne or brad park
Adam Oates too. Red Wings, Hull and Oates, Caps, Ducks. Never got to win.
Danny Alf and Emery
@@Blobhalford bobby and Brett both have cups
Bobby in 1961
Brett in 1999 and 2002
The Stastny brothers defection to north america alone is worth a whole episode
Yea there are a ton more they could do videos on just imo these are the 3 best to never win the cup, Oates and alfredsson and ciccarelli and lindros, theres a lot
Wow man , this was an amazing/emotional video to watch. Respect ! \m/
I love this channel cause they post a lot of hockey content. people complain its not there but the sport gets a lot of attention. keep up the great work!
I love this series! Could you do one on Brian Dawkins?
I'm crying based off the first 30 seconds alone
He was my favorite when I was a kid, great vid as always
Having grown up on the border of Flames and Canucks country, watching this I see so many parallels with the Sedins careers. Can you do their story next please?
8:06 - Longtime Flames fan here, and while a _lot_ of us still insist #ItWasIn 16 years later, I've never been so convinced. For one thing that ~45° camera angle is deceiving, showing white ice under the puck when in reality it was in the air, likely _just_ on the line and not across it (which is what a CGI replication commissioned by ABC for game 7 showed). Certainly not conclusive enough IMO to overturn the call on the ice, which was not only that it was no goal but that it was a non-event not even worth stopping play over. As well, the overhead angle you showed before it (which I didn't even know existed!) doesn't clearly show the puck at all.
But then also the fact that the refs could have ruled it in, _but_ still call it a "distinct kicking motion" and waived it off on that ground; also that while goals were hard to come by in 2003-04 Tampa Bay still had the league's best offence and Lecavalier or ex-Flame Martin St. Louis or playoff MVP Brad Richards could have easily tied it afterwards anyways.
Regardless, great video even despite the rough memories; it's nice to see more hockey content on this channel! Personally I think a Collapse video about those 1989 Stanley Cup champion Flames would be a good one, but obviously that's up to y'all. :P
@@jstreim I was at game 1 vs Montreal and then game 2 vs Calgary. Crazy how many bandwagon fans we got when the final came around. The MTL game was like 75% full and about 1/4 MTL fans. Still had a great time though. GO BOLTS!
"Longtime Flames fan here" - So sorry about that!
Yes, the 45 degree angle makes for an excellent demonstration of the parallax effect.
But the thing is we don’t know if the puck was in the air, it could’ve slid on the ice therefore the puck would actually be in. But we’ll never know
Oilers fan we hate you guys but it was in 100% it was in
Finally a hockey untitled and a great choice at that!
YO, I really like this series of videos, good job dudes!
This made me very sad to watch. Jerome Iginla was everything one could ever want in a leader and a player. One of my favorites to watch. I knew I was kidding myself when he went to the kings but I was hoping in my heart it could be a Ray Borque moment; him getting to raise the cup, but it will always be an unfulfilled dream for a lot of hockey fans everywhere.
As a Rangers fan, I remember being so terrified of the 2014 Bruins, and I was so happy Montreal knocked them out (I did not see the win over the Habs coming, I just knew it was impossible to beat Boston)
YES MY REQUEST WAS TAKEN
For just how great (the best on CZcams) the SB Nation channel is, this is one of their best series
Great work as always
The NHL has the weakest marketing I have potentially ever seen in corporate America, I mean literally my local plumbing company has better friggin advertising and presence than hockey
You cannot market something that nobody wants to watch though.
the bossness I don’t care if Americans like hockey or not.
Canadians don’t need the marketing.
Beef history: Ravens vs Steelers
Sam Ortmann Steelers vs Bengals
@@browmaster2197 Good idea. James Harrison vs Steelers would also be good.
Sam Ortmann Or a rewind of the Epic Bungal, when the Bengals melted down against the Steelers in 2015
@@browmaster2197 I think a collapse episode on the marvin Lewis Bengals would be better. Also a collapse episode for the killer b Steelers
@@samortmann5003 Collapse? They never even won a playoff game
Thank you for doing this on a hockey player. This is an excellent series.
Yo EFFORT was put into this video. Great job and thank you. Very well done
Jarome Iginla, Matts Sundin, Daniel and Hendrick Sedin, it’s a crime players like these never got to hoist the cup above they’re head
I'd add Daniel Alfredsson, Paul Kariya, Pavel Bure and Adam Oates to the list. Still some hope left for Marleau, Thorton and Lundqvist.
Antti Möhköi it’s a genuine shame
@@anttimohkoi7437 none of those dudes gonna win one. They all had chances in the finals and choked
@@Faroukassault I wouldn't count out Marleau. The guy is in a same team with Crosby and Malkin so a pretty good chance to win the cup.
@@anttimohkoi7437 yea but he has at max a few seasons left in him. And this year's playoffs will be the toughest since most teams have to play an extra round. Pitts gotta win 5 series to win it all. Its possible but the east is tougher than the west this season
7:06 Not only have you pronounced Gelinas incorrectly twice, Ville Nieminen was a forward, and not one of Calgary's top defenceman.
Also game 7 against Vancouver ended in first overtime, not double.
Yup, a few errors in this, which makes me wonder how many errors are in other videos but i just don't know any better.
@@codyp7934 Agreed. After seeing how piss poor the research for this video was you gotta wonder if they fact check anything.
Thanks for this. Please do more hockey vids. Would like to see a similar one for mats Sundin and his career
Love Iginla. Only reason I'd ever want to see the Pens or Bruins win a cup back then. Also. i know NHL vids don't get as much views but I appreciate that you guys still make them from time to time. So fun to watch.
Senna v Prost Beef history please
Yes
great choice
Can you do Ken Griffey Jr. aka the second most iconic athlete of the 90s
SB Nation literally has like a 6 part series on the history of the Mariners.
All the reasons Griffey didn't win are right there.
@@Posirep They didn't really cover his time with the Reds, granted his time with the Mariners was longer and more important but I think there's still enough they didn't talk about that another video could still be interesting.
@@thisishandlenumber2048 lthat could be narrowed down to Griffey was hurt and reds weren't very good.
No heartbreaking defeats, close calls, etc.
Solid PF that can also mix it up in the fight dept. Proven HOFer. Always loved the play of Jarome Arthur-Leigh Adekunle Tig Junior Elvis Iginla.
I loved him on the bruins.. I watched him his entire career was always one of my fav players he did it all
Someone should do "the creation of SB nation deserves a deep rewind"
Nigerian legend
One of the classiest and most respected players in league history. What a stud.
Auston Matthews 4 goal Rewinder next imo more SB Nation Hockey Content
Holy crap, THIS was the "First!" comment. You REALLY want to see that rewinder.
They lost, so would the rewinder be the sens taking it in ot?
Yzerman's OT winner from the blue line is a better option.
you can't really do a rewinder of 4 events
We gotta get one on the Sedins
As a long suffering Flames fan and lover of Iginla, this made me cry actual tears of sadness.
Man deserved a cup, to the point I was actually willing Pittsburgh, then Boston, to win cups - 2 teams I generally dislike. (Then the Avs and Kings, but I'm pretty neutral on them).
You guys really hit the less heralded stories
Luv it
Stop calling him Ggggelina it's zshelina!!!
I want to like this again for the double down on the pronunciation in the video
They do this with every hockey video. The people who make these don't actually watch hockey.
More like Jelly-Na
Guillaume Pelletier exactly.
@@jezusghoti Nah, they're just Americans. Will does seem to be the only one to really care about it though.