Sidney Crosby and Claude Giroux’s beef was painful, brief, and a showcase of hockey’s best rivalry
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- čas přidán 10. 11. 2019
- From the very first hockey-centric Beef History, people have been asking for either this episode or simply anything focusing on the Flyers and Penguins. Well, I’m sorry it took this long, but here it is.
Sidney Crosby and Claude Giroux’s beef may have been quicker than others, but it was the perfect encapsulation of the history between their teams. Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, having been linked since day one, really feel like a couple of brothers that quarrel simply due to expectations.
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If you're here for Giroux, then got a hunch you'll like this - twitter.com/BroadStHockey/status/1504507701568712707
warning it may make you emotional
Definitly did like it
The nhl arguably not great at marketing players is the understatement of the decade
*Looks art mcdavid with intensity*
still better than Predictable Basketball and Boring baseball
@@TheHeston83 2-0
@@pumpkingreg6673 my team is down 2-0 but not the Sport Hockey is awesome As Football hope the MLB shuts down
They don't care about it. They're fine with having the cult following and being the distant fourth league in the US.
You should do one on Antonio Browns beef with his brain
Not funny
Josh Kimbrough I know it’s true
What brain
NHL VAN the one that made him freeze his feet
@@JoshuaKimbrough kinda funny tho
shout out to nathan makinnon for making sid and giroux sit next to each other at team dinner to squash the beef at worlds. legend.
@Young Laam Check the Spittin' Chiclets podcast with Giroux
@Rich Affinito Rantanen?
@Rich Affinito he's pretty damn elite even without. His hands and passing are just ridiculous. Guranteed 80 points on almost any team with a passable center. When him and nate are on fire, its on a whole nother level though, agreed. What was he putting up an average of 2+ points a game for a 15+ game stretch last season with Nate?
But... Saying he isn't half the player without Mack is just ridiculous though.. because he'd still finish with a bare minimum of 60 points on trashfire/can't score to save their lives teams like Minnesota, LA, or New Jersey with how good his skills are.
Rich Affinito thank rantenen and Makar
Booooo gay we hate each other thats how it should be
Being at Penn State during the 2012 series was INSANE. The entire campus was a Flyers vs. Pens beef. You could hear people shouting from apartment windows after either team scored.. EVERY time either team scored.
shloop dewoop strange to think of Americans having even that mild interest level in hockey
Blue collar Silver dollar that must be why half the American teams have empty arenas. There’s literally 3 relevant American teams. Its a disgrace honestly
SloppeyJoe 6D9 not here in Pa. we love hockey here doesn’t matter what side of the state you’re from. I can’t speak for other states
I second this. I was at Penn State Wilkes-Barre for the 2012 playoffs and it was exactly what you talked about. Everyone watching the games, running over to apartments and saying "You like that?" It was definitely a great time for hockey!
SloppeyJoe 6D9 arizona and florida are really the only teams who cant put people in the seats
Should have done Fleury and Bryzgolav's individual beefs with stopping the puck in that 2012 series.
Five hole is humongous big
@@MayonnaiseOreo MANGOUS
They should have done bryzgalovs beef with the media haha what a legend
As a die hard pens fan since ‘88, I just want to say...
...Well played. Well played
Forrest Hines god I love fleury but my lord was he god awful that postseason
Claude Giroux might be the least talked about superstar in history
@Liam Foster hes a great player. Just too bad Philadelphia didnt ever really have a very strong core around him say minis 2012
Well seems like no one talks hockey in mainstream sports talk shows.
Vigneault has something special going on this season and the young guys are really coming into their own. Maybe a Stanley Cup victory will finally give Claude the respect he deserves.
The best kept secret ever.. if I have a son, I’m naming him after Captain Claude
Just Saying curling
3:25 You gotta love hockey a rivalry so good that both teams fought together to make sure they stayed in the same division. How cool is that.
Jaromir Jagr was only mentioned briefly, but it's worth noting that he was on the team with Lemieux when they won Cups in 91 and 92, played with Claude Giroux in 2011 at age 41, then played SEVEN more seasons in the NHL until 2018. He's still playing pro hockey in the Czech Republic at age 49. Insane.
the man's been a hockey player since before the big bang
53*
Finally some more hockey beef
Sean Bela the best beef.
4:51 I really wanna see the rest of that article above where presumably 56 people were arrested at a wedding
Lol. I saw that too lol.
I wish somebody would make an animated flipbook of that story.
It was Prince William and Kate Middleton's marriage with millions of people present.
Same
Giroux is one of the most underrated players of all time. He had 102 points two seasons ago and he didn't even get named a finalist for the Hart Trophy.
Can't wait 10 years for the Tkachuk-Doughty beef
Trusspike15 a crying match between two losers?
Tkachuk-Kassian too
As a wise man once said, "it's about damn time"
I was thinking the same thing @top.comment.god
YES HOCKEY STUFF
Giroux's hit and goal in the opening of game 6 was one of the best few minutes in Flyers history.
Paul Douglas “the shift” amazing Giroux moment
Yeah, also kinda sad
Almost 8 years now since their last playoff series win
It was. He should try it in the Stanley Cup Finals sometime. Of course, he's gotta get there first. Never mind.
@@kakdelarebyata except he's been there before, moron
In honor of Don Cherry getting canned, you should do one of his beefs. Either with the Carolina Hurricanes, Brian Burke, or the entire continent of Europe
Don Cherry vs. the left
Don Cherry vs Modern Hockey
Don cherry vs decent human beings
Next do Dion Waiters vs "Gummies"
Kayman234 Dion Waiter vs Playing Time
Claude is such an underrated talent. I really hope he gets to lift the trophy at some point in his career
HackFrauds give us 5 years 😈🧡🖤
Zerk Acid even less 💪🏻
Riley K I agree less !!! I’ve always had a soft spot for the flyers!!! Really nice fan base and schenn is one of my favorite players since he came to my
Blues
@@tydance8865 I'm a flyers fan.idk about. Nice fanbase but it is a loyal one
I really hope this rivalry starts to get reignited soon with the Flyers finally getting a goalie and some youth starting to come throughout the roster because these two players are clearly some of the best of the 21st century, especially the 2010’s.
Mike Craig last year's stadium series Definitely reinvigorated it
Just wait for TK to open his mouth again
I fear the pens will drop off in a few years and even with the young players phillys not a good enough team.... 😥
@@mcpaasec420 I don't agree with that at all. Flyers aren't cup contenders yet but they will definitely make the playoffs. Provorov, Konecny, Lindblom, Sanheim, Myers, Hart, Farabee, & potentially Patrick. All of them are under 24 years old and already are making a difference. Give it a few years, Flyers will be amongst the top.
@@sblogic1168 definitely. we'll be in the playoffs, all I want as a fan is a visit to the second round
I never get tired of hearing the Philadelphia fans shouting "Crosby sucks!" and then watching him get a hat trick.
Man i love this, but could you do a video in the rivalry between Edmonton and Calgary
WE LIKE SPORTS AND WE DON'T CARE WHO KNOWS
Kofie Why? love u kofie 🤧
When is the 08 lions part 2 coming out?
FOOTBALL FOOTBALL FOOTBALL TENNIS HOCKEY GOLF!
S to the B to the N-ation is all I watch cause Im the man
From the Astrodome to the super bowl
I know, it took us a long time to make this. So as a bonus I started compiling the big moments from the team rivalry and will update those here - www.sbnation.com/2019/11/11/20955990/flyers-penguins-rivalry-history-explained-sidney-crosby-claude-giroux-nhl-beef
If you spot something, let me know.
Also, if you're a Penguins fan then you'll love www.pensburgh.com or if you're with the Flyers, then check out www.broadstreethockey.com please and thank you
You could add the Jagr signing to that list, which basically turned Jagr from a legend (and hoped for free agent pickup for nostalgia reasons) to persona-non-grata in Pittsburgh.
Minor detail: the pens won the 2018 series in 6
@@chaosof99 Oh good call, thank you Chaos
Could have included the Penguins disaster in their new arena (losing a bunch of home games against the Flyers in I think 2012) which created "You can't best us" chants in Philly and the rumours about Crosby vetoing/lobbying against Giroux to be on Team Canada for the 2014 Olympics, though possibly not true.
PLEASE BRING BACK UFFSIDES PRETTY PLEASE
Dude your videos are amazing. I hope people appreciate the research and editing work that I’m sure goes into them! The Avs Wings and Avery Marty ones were incredibly well done
For Rewinder you guys should do Crosby's game winning goal in the 2010 Olympics vs USA
SteelCityFilms part 1 or part 2
And hopefully they dont forget to point out who was really the key to that goal (Iggy)
A moment in time
Crosby gold medal winner in Vancouver
..boy that USA tying goal still gives me chills
You could feel the whole country explode when that goal was scored.
As an American, that's painful! But I keep watching the Canadian broadcast of it.
About damn time there was hockey content
The NHL is so underrated
bruh look at this dude it’s the 4th major sport, but it should be the 3rd at least
@@wowbruh2511 yh if more people just took the time to watch it they would realise how entertaining it is
Hype Hockey Highlights as a lifelong football/basketball fanatic who recently has gotten into hockey (not gonna lie it mostly started from watching hockey fight videos), I fully endorse this
He should make a how the canucks lost every cup they were in clip lol
Feels like forever. Thanks guys. Been waiting for some quality content.
Great video! Fk man that was good enough to feel invested into this rivalry! Keep em up, I always enjoy these
5:53 Maguire Looks like a little kid while his parents are fighting
That playoff series might have been the best I’ve ever watched, up there with Montreal against Boston
Philadelphia vs Boston. Boston up 3-0, and up 3-0 goals to none in game 4. Flyers somehow win. Anyone here got odds on Flyers chances to win in this series at that moment Laviolette calls timeout?
As a Penguins fan living in Flyer's country this beef is amazing. Great video.
If I was Crosby's dad I would have rang the other dads necks for threatening my son just because my son was better than theirs lol. I mean on the same note, if you have guys getting that angry over how good you are, you must be doing something right.
Yeah, threatening to kill a kid over hockey is insane. I ref minor hockey in Canada, and I'm so glad that garbage has been cleaned up, at least where I am.
His dad was likely a whiner just like his son so that is not likely.
This is crazy man. I see your comments on everything lol. On Lions and red wings videos too. Cheers brother.
@@Thrashman-ye4cf 😂 I've actually been more reserved the past couple months but there's a good chance you'll see me on anything Detroit sports related hahaha. Cheers man.
You missed one highlight from the WC where they were actually smirking at each other after Sid fed Giroux for a goal. Clearly they were over it at that point
I believe we have just watched all other hockey videos pass the baton to this video as the best hockey video ever made.
This is a deep cut that I’m not sure how many people understand, but i wanted to let you know that I appreciated it
I loved your narration of the two captains. Hockey is such a great sport.
So good, y’all! Keep them coming.
From beef to bromance a hockey story of the ages.
Thanks for the beef, I needed it for lunch
The ongoing Tkachuk and Doughty rivalry would be great for this series. Lot of good content there between 2 star players which is harder to find in hockey
this rivalry is the whole reason i loved hockey in the first place i miss rivals between these two every wednesday
Prost vs Senna was a godly beef in F1. That needs a history
I mean there's already an entire movie about that beef so I guess it's been addressed?
Misha Davies Gedalof the movie you’re thinking of is Lauda vs Hunt. Unless i’m out of the loop on a new movie coming out
@@sportsnation1967 there's a 2010 movie about mainly Senna, but it's got a particular emphasis on the rivalry with Prost
Shawn Michaels vs Brett Hart Beef
LOVE the hockey content. If you need more ideas, rewinder could take a look at the '96 cup final winning goal or weird rules could talk about the trapezoid behind the net
Great video, well done; and I'm not a huge hockey fan.(fight me) It happened when I randomly landed on that 5OT game..and watched the whole thing with my mouth agape; my eyes glued to this intense, every single second matters, battle of wills..and since then, I'll catch a shift or three once in a while. Earned a sub, thanks✌
Finally, a new Beef History :)
Beef History series is underrated
I was so stoked when I saw this was uploaded
Love the hockey beef histories thank you!
I’m still hoping for an Eric Lindros and Scott Stevens episode
Or Domi vs flyers fans? Haha
@@jamesrafferty7986 LET HIM IN THE BOX, LET HIM IN!!!
That's not a beef that was a murder
As a flyers fan, I really enjoyed this video
As a pens fan. I enjoy owning you children
@Liam Foster its all good. I love watchi g the Rivalry from afar. Being unbiased i have 2 say the Penguins have the overall edge because of Stanley Cups. But the Flyers are also a great Franchise for the NHL
as a pens fan, I love watching Giroux when he’s not playing us! that slapper in the shootout the other day 👀
Liam Foster Well due to the fact that I live in Pittsburgh and y’all haven’t won a cup since the 70’s I don’t want to hear it
@@landongreen7740 high skilled player
Loved watching these guys go at it when I was growing up
Man, I loved that 2012 series. One of the craziest, most entertaining playoff series I've seen.
You should have included the fact that when Flyers drafted G they forgot his name... awkward...
Bobby Clarke didn't forget it, he just didn't know how to pronounce it.
@@stephen2865 shhhh dont ruin a good story
He actually did forget it. Had to look at the card again. I dunno how you could get that wrong, if you knew it happened it means you’ve seen the clip... odd.
On this topic, please do a rewind on the 2010 olympic goal. Please. Hasn't been documented enough.
Saka an easy five whole shot ..? It was not that impressive
Great video, but one correction: the regular season game where the 2 coaches got into the shouting match before the playoffs was not on April 12th with 4 games left in the season. It was actually the game on April 1st. The game on the 12th was much more relaxed as both teams had already clinched their spots in the standings and didn’t want to have anyone get hurt before the playoffs.
There were like 8 games left in the season on April first when they got into the fight, but it was pretty certain they would meet in the first round even at that point.
Wow this is such a great video. I always wanted you to do Crosby vs. Giroux
Do a rewinder for Henrique’s OT goal against the Rangers in 2012. There’s so much history to talk about with that one
Please no. Can't get over that goal
80's Guy I was there to see it live, probably the best sports moment I’ve ever watched in person
@@lucaspavlounis7027 Great, that was a hell of. game. I remember watched that game in a bar and i think few plays before that Henrique goal, Kreider hit the post.
Y’all should do the following
Pens vs caps
el Classico
KAT vs embiid
Lakers vs Celtics
Hockey in SB Nation videos gives me life
One of the best playoff series I've ever seen
claudes first shift in the playoffs with the hit on crosby then the goal is my fav hockey memory ever.
My favorite memory is watching Pittsburgh win 5
Stanley Cups.
"When realignment threatened to split them up, they even fought together"
Ohhh, so that's what Detroit and Chicago/Colorado had to do.
That's how you know a rivalry is good
I agree some teams having to travel and half the year in a 2/3h different time zone,is just crap. The divisions should deffently look at this, I like the set up with the 2 conferences like the original set up. Patrick division ect.
Great video!! Loads of fun. Great job, kid.
I wanna see more player rivalries from hockey. It’s pretty early and needs time to develop. But Doughty vs Tkachuk will be a great one.
I love them both I am so happy I got Giroux’s Rookie Autograph
This is like the chart party of sb nation
wait
Rich Affinito it’s called a joke
This is awesome. Well done. Thanks
Great job on this video
As a die-hard Flyers fan, I loved this video. Thank you for making this and doing the rivalry such justice!
Hopefully some day soon, we'll see as much success as the modern-day Pens have.
AV is a huge improvement in coaching and has a solid career record so he's the biggest hope for the team next to Carter Hart (who just needs to work on rebounding better when his confidence gets knocked). The usual trouble of short point streaks being followed with huge lows is still hanging around though. My hope is that things change consistently for the better in time for Giroux to enjoy it because he's said before he doesn't see himself playing into his forties like Jagr.
@@gabb136 this aged well
Yes! Finally some Philly Beef!
This was awesome man.
2012 Flyers-Penguins playoff series : one of the greatest of all time. Hitting, scoring, fighting, hatred, passion... You got it all !
It’s sad that a Superstar like Giroux doesn’t get talked about as much as others
He does not do and has not done as much as others. Career highlights include one playoff series win against Pittsburgh 8 years ago where he laid a big check on Crosby and scored a goal afterwards.
Kevin Miller being a superstar isn’t about scoring the most goals... it’s about overall stats... Giroux had the most assists in the league the passed 3 years. He doesn’t have as many highlights because he’s a playmaker.... look at the play he makes
@@josephpagano7612 your excuse for him not having highlights is that he is a playmaker? There are tons of playmakers that get highlights and recognition. The issue with Giroux is he has and always will be very inconsistent. That has alot to do with the talent in Philly as well. The guy comes out and is a point per game then falls off then bounces back. Always liked him though.
Giroux is a superstar but considering Crosby’s the best player of this generation and undoubtedly one of the best of all time you’d never expect him to be talked about as much as Sid
@@josephpagano7612 and the cop's butt he grabbed
3:08....I recall going to sleep and waking up periodically to check on this game and being stunned it was still going numerous times. I woke up in time to hear the Flyer's win❤️
I was still in middle school and stayed up to watch the whole game. Luckily for me my dad understood the importance of it and he let me stay home from school haha
You guys are getting me into Hockey
Beef History is the best series on this channel
Pierre McGuire always seems to end up in the most uncomfortable looking circumstances
This brought back a lot of great memories of that 2012 series.
That part about putting on the same sweater got me all misty eyed. Thanks for making.
Great video!
I am a simple man. I see SB Nation, I double click the vid
can you do NASCAR beef histories and an untitled on Mark Martin? He finished 2nd like 5 or 6 times in championship pts
Rewinders for the '76 and '79 Daytona 500s would be awesome too
Yeah old school Nascar has some great real legit feuds. That would be awesome to cover. Dale Earhardt would be a easy one to do.
I agree with both
May I suggest Cale Yarborough vs Bobby Allison?
Nascar is dead lol
@@PENSDYNASTY Nah, F1 in the US is dead.
This is the best, more hockey please.
One of the better beef history videos in my opinion
Im waiting for the Process Vs KAT .... c-mon..... DO IT!!!!!
Next one:
2012 Fleury vs. stopping pucks
2017 Caps vs. Fleury
Fleury is really good. I'm confused.
sponge boy both are true, Fleury was god-like against the Caps in 2017 and really awful against Philly in 2012, he really had some rough years between the cup wins
I needed this, thank you Will. Try to get Jon and Alex involved next time. I'm sure there are some really cool stats available here. How about the fact that these two guys are both top 5 in points over the decade. #FlyOrDie
More hockey stuff please !
Crosby has 49 goals and 66 assists in 77 games vs the Flyers. I would say he won the battle against Giroux.
You can thank the refs for most of that.
You should do "the creation of SB nation deserves a deep rewind"
Thank you for covering Hockey.
Loved the video
Phil Kessel/John Scott Beef
Comrade Galloneye hackey night in Canada
Crosby put the Tombstone piledriver on this feud after the 2018 playoffs.
Completely destroyed them after winning back to back Stanley Cups and Conn Smythes.
The 2012 only playoff loss to Philadelphia is buried n dead in the ground.
It was still an awesome series tho, probably the most fun to watch from an outside perspective
I think it was always more of a Flyers vs pens thing anyway, hopefully the flyers stay hot so this rivalry will be exciting again
The playoff series in 2018 and Stadium Series last season with the rest of the regular season series showed the rivalry isn't completely dead. Flyers are no longer rebuilding and hopefully, the rivalry returns and really heats up in the next few seasons. The players still really hate each other, it's possible
Theodore Belmont it really ain’t bro, it’s probably the most entertaining series in this decade 😂😂😂
As a Flyers fan I'll agree to that. The Giroux/Crosby feud is pretty much etched in stone. However with the ridiculous amount of young talent the Flyers have coming up (who are already making a difference), the Flyers/Penguins rivalry will be sparking up again soon. And considering Crosby & Malkin are 32 & 33 years old, the scales might tip sooner than expected.
will i love you this is amazing pls make more hockey beef history vids
Yes, finally more hockey content!!!!
Thanks, Beef History, for reminding me that I can indirectly thank Claude Giroux for LA having the pieces to win two Stanley Cups!
I'm a Pens fan but Claude Giroux is one of my favorite players of all time
He's a great player but he disappoints me so much. Only because he has so much talent n could and should be even better. But for some reason hasnt been able to break through consistently year after year
@@theodorebelmont7922 he is relied on so much. Hurts his stats but he is important to the flyers no matter what
@@theodorebelmont7922 Nobody to play with. Had a mediocre team for the past 6 years.
@@sblogic1168 I agree
Wehh. Quality video man. You got a sub from me.