Bogner Amplification - XTC 3534 Playthru Demo
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Bogner Amplification XTC 3534 EL-34 Powered mini head demo and playthru.
Guitar - Jackson USA SL2HT
Pickups - Arcane Inc.
Cabinet - Marshall 1960BX
Speakers - Celestion Alnico Cream 90W
Mic - Shure SM57 + Mesanovic Model 2
Damn! Rheinhold's an absolute genius. I've always loved his amps, and this is no exception. Molten lava rivers of gain. Brutal and gorgeous.
THIS. IS. A. GREAT. DEMO!! I've had the 3534 for about six months now, and it still floors me every time I plug in. My favorite thing about the tone is how all three channels feel as if they're tied together. Blue feels like a continuation of Green, Red a continuation of Blue.
Holy shit this might be the best amp on earth! It has every tone you could ever want and they're all absolutely incredible! NEED!!!!
Although, I know everybody has their own opinion and perception on what is good sound, and it is very subjective...I don't see how anybody could dislike this video..I don't understand what there is to dislike. I can't wrap my head around people like that. Personally, imo, I think many people are jealous of brother reza..The man is cool as shit, and as humble as a person can be. He posts some of the best demos on You Tube..He never talks down to anybody or belittles them, if they have a smaller level of knowledge then him, and he takes alot of his personal time to answer people's questions, and helps them make the right decisions before they spend alot of money on purchases..He doesn't owe anybody that, and his page on FB, called Advanced Guitars and Gear is ingenius..He has a very large following..He has alot of top notch equipment, that I'm quite sure he worked his ass off for, rather than somebody just giving it to him..The man is an audio engineer by trade, and nobody can argue about the fact that he has an amazing ear for sound and tone, which is to be expected in his work profession. Props to you, Brother Reza..Thanks for your selfless time to help, educate, and entertain people..You do it out of the kindness of your heart. I hope you're doing well Bro, and that you're staying safe, healthy, and far away from this nasty virus. From Sonny in New Orleans, La. PS..I pray that these California Wildfires had no bad effect on you. It breaks my heart, and angers me at the same time, that it has been proven already that a decent amount of these fires, were created by arsonists, over something petty and insignificant as politics. There's so much more to life, and sadly, many hard working, tax paying citizens lost their family homes, rendering many of them homeless.
Fantastic demo!! I wish all amp demos were this straight forward
Best amp demo on you tube. Great playing so that we can hear the power, crunch, and note definition. Awesome.
I enjoy the playing as much as the tones in these videos
Your amp demos are consistently the best sounding ones on YT! I love Bogner amps and this one has a great balance of cutting highs and strong lows with that chewy distortion!
Finally ...someone using higher wattage speakers. Rock on!
Incredible, INCREDIBLE demo of this wonderful Bogner. Thanks for posting it.
Found the virtual version of this on Amplitube 5 (German 34) and was really impressed with this amp. So now I'm here to listen to the real thing!
I'm just so in love with Bogner amps. I owned an Uber a while ago and have dreamed of owning an XTC since.
it sounds amazing, it's so tight on the lows and bites great on the high end. Really really nice amp
definitely better than the Atma for sure!
Bogner into a 412 with Alnico Creams is top class stuff. Sounds glorious
When I heard the cab was loaded with 4 Celestion Alnico Cream speakers I knew it would sound amazing. I have one in a 1x12 oversize open back cab and OMG does it fill the room. They are about $300 each so that's $1200 worth of speaker we're listening to.
Sounds glorious. Sounds like it needs to be ordered right away.
I've loved every single demo of this amp. I'm so glad you played this one! Your playing and presentation was insanely good on this! Good stuff man!
You Bogner Guys are nuts. 🥜 just peaked in for a listen. Thank you my friend! Nice jamming.
Man your vids are awesome . You got some of the best if not the best tones on CZcams. Really sounds good on my end. Can't imagine being in the room.
it actually got tighter and more articulate when going "red".....wow. this is why I spend so much on gear.
and almost 1k less than the new Soldano SLO-30 and way better features too!
@@GuitarsAndSynths Not even a comparison right? I think people are blinded with the SLO because it's a Soldano. This amp clearly blows the SLO away.
Wow that's from the XTC line?? Best I've ever heard by far!!!
Dude!!! I forgot you were demoing an amp cuz your demonstrations turned into songs which got me thinking of we need to make this era a golden era and bring back the sound and liberation of ass kickin' R-N-R.
The KILLER Bogner low-mids was the taproot.
all i want in life is to jam with cool amps like this guy.
Reza, this is the one I decided on to compliment the Helios via wet/dry. I love it! Your demo is really great here. Sounds phenomenal with your recording rig and cab. SO good!
That sounds absolutely incredible.
Very surprised by how good the alnico cream is reacting with saturation. The top end is literally shining
@@RezaMatix it's the 1st time I hear about this speaker but you're right : Alnico don't have a good reputation in regards to high gain.
Combined with a Bogner, which seems low mids focused, it seems to be a success.
I was fortunate to own a 101b for a while and miss it to bits. This looks like the perfect solution for me!
This sounds a million times more musical, tighter, way more string definition, way more articulation, way more pleasant gain staging, smoother, punchier, more percussive than the new SLO.
we live in a magical time for gear
Oh boy! Another amp I need to buy now, thanks for the demo, sounds great!
ugh! This amp sounds freaking sick!
I use to play the 30th anniversary 101A loaded with 6L6s : gives much more low end to go on Boogie territory. But this one sounds close with extra bite. Great video as usual :)
The cabinet makes a huge difference as well. Alnicos are not know for their bottom end uknow
@@Taustavoima Yep the cab is an EQ. But whatever the speaker, the difference between EL34 and 6L6 is huge. I use 3 Ampete 444 in my studio so you can imagine how many heads and cabs I can compare. Low end comes from the 6L6. Whatever the speaker. I've tested 6L6 vs KT77 and KT88 too. At the end, I always need the good old 6L6.
@@toom6087 Just out of curiosity, do you have any clips or demos with the KT77s? I've used those in other amps and always felt like they were a good hybrid of an EL34 and 6L6, but the Ecstasy is a bucket list item amp for me and I would love to hear a tube rolling demo of one.
@@7xchad No I don't sorry. And yes they are just half-way from 6L6s to EL34s. I've always preferred 6L6s to KT77s or KT88s. On paper, KTs are better. But in the real life, for my kind of tastes, my gameplay, my guitars, my FXs, as I'm in love with fat low end, not with tight low end, my go to is the 6L6.
I even put 6L6s in my Diezel VH4-S. I asked it to Peter Diezel, it was in 2014. Peter answered KTs are better. No regrets ! The VH4 with 6L6s is a monster. Same with Bogner amps. Same with Mesa amps. Well, a Mesa without 6L6s is no more a Mesa. But I'm a purist here.
Maybe KT88 or 77 on Marshall, as Kerry King do. If I had a Bogner Uberschall, I would have probably tried KT77s or 88s in. But I'm a 2 channels Dual Rectifier player. Heads from the 90's, loaded with 6L6s of course.
Back to the XTC : all the peoples who heard my amp loaded with 6L6s are impressed. I use to play the XTC with a Dual Rectifier 3 channels, the solo head, not the muti-watts in production since 2010. Everybody prefer the XTC.
An XTC loaded with 6L6s is made for Boogie fans like me. If you are a Marshall guy, you will probably prefer the KTs.
I play shred and doom. I go from Dream Theater or Suicidal Tendencies to Lamb Of God or Corrosion of Conformity, Megadeth to Crowbar etc. No punk, no pop. With the XTC, I play in the George Lynch/Van Halen/Zakk Wylde way.
If you want a versatile amp, the XTC is the best for solo players. The VH4 for rhythm players. If you want the best high gain amp ever made : Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Revision F made in 1992-1993 or Soldano SLO100 made from 1987 to 2018. I own both. They are evil. And when I play the Recto and the SLO together, there are no words to explain the sonic orgasm happening. I could sold my XTC or my VH4. Not the others. Check out the SLO100 before buying and XTC. And well, the cab can change the tone too.
The Bogner 412ST loaded with V30 is the best 4x12 for the Soldano. The Matamp 412R Deluxe, V30 too, is the best for the Rectifier Revision F. The Friedman 412 with greenbacks is the best for my VH4S with 6L6s. The Diezel cab, front loaded, is the best for the new Rectifier. Etc.
Power tubes + cabs + woods of the guitar + pickups : this is the key. Even if I had a clip, it will not help you. :(
@@toom6087 Thanks for that detailed reply. I currently blend a Dual Rec Rev G (pretty good in its own right) and a Carvin X100B, both with 6L6 power tubes. This gives me a great high gain amp with a very good clean channel and a great clean amp with a very good crunch channel. I have different pedals I use with each to further expand the tonal palate. So for, no megabuck botique amp has convinced me that it offers anything I can't get with my current setup, but the Ecstasy seems like 1 amp that would fill the place of 2. Still curious about tube rolling, just because hearing something I'm not used to tends to make me more creative, but I definitely know what you mean describing that massive bottom end of a rectifier. On paper it shouldn't work, but being in the room with it while chugging out a heavy riff is an awesome experience!
Thank you for your demos man. They’re great and really give us an idea of what the amp is all about. This one has been on my watch list and I’m torn between this or synergy syn 50.
This is arguably the very best demo of this amp available on the internet. Thank you and damn you (at the same time)...I might be liquidating my gear fund very soon!
All kidding aside, is the boost controllable or is it a fixed increase in gain or volume?
controllable , there is a small pot inside the chassis top
@@RezaMatix Fuck it I buying this Amp ,Bro great demo ,is it ur fav Bogner?
@@RezaMatix incredible videos you have man. I'm seriously thinking about buying the 3534 and the SLO30 and returning one or the other or keeping both. What do you think about the slo vs the 3534? Seems like the 3534 is way more versatile for live playing. But that SLO gain is just amazing. You think it'd be worth having both?
@@RezaMatix sorry what? What knob are you referring to?
@@Ibanezguy2007 it’s for the bias, take the back cover off the amp and there’s a trim pot in there. It definitely is not for the boost!
I love how these sound layered on tape.. Just massive.. so fun to play too. However, when I play it by itself its a little bit too perfect sounding at times? I dont know how to explain it. Alone it almost reminded of mimicking an insane amp... Its like the rythem channel feels like a modeler but, put a mic on it and 2 track it... -rock heaven.
God damn right son! That is my new amp! Very nice!!!
Great sounding Bogner.
Sounds amazing - great Demo Reza!
Wow wow ! Killer demo & amp!
That sounds amazing!! Great playing too!
why is everything you play through so fuckin good!!
Yea couldn’t make my big version Ecstasy blue pedal sound like this...
good demo Reza....bought this amp should be here in a few days ...stoked
came in tuesday.....its very inspiring....gobs of articulate gain love it so far
Great as always! Btw we NEED that cab/mic settings as an impulse response!
Yes please we haha
Amazing playing as always! Thx for the upload and stay safe bro
Badass tones.
Can’t wait to get one!
This thing sounds great
This is one of the best sounding Bogner demos on CZcams. This thing sounds insane. Does this thing have the volume and low end thump that would hold up in a live situation? I know a lot of the lower wattage amps sound killer on a recording but then they sound super thin in a band setting. This thing appears to have some pretty large transformers though
sounds big , i'm sure it would have no problem hanging where a 40 watt would be appropriate
I use it in a punk/metal band with a 4x12, theres another guitar half stack and the bassist has a full Mesa stack (1x15 + 4x10) and the amp hangs even at about 12 o'clock on the master volume. Plenty of power.
That sounds Fat! You have a great gallop Brother! Thanks for sharing and Be Well All!
This sounds insane.. ly good.
another dope tone vid
Did you mention where the MV/Loop level was set?
Are you using EQ switch on B2 for red and blue channels? What is excursion sw set at ? thx
Sounds great Reza! I'm curious, does it supplant any of your top 5 favorite amps? Is it at least the best "smaller/lighter" amp you've played?
I think its a super cool amp. Its got a great feel. greasy, funky but with bite. I like all the tone shaping. I know it definitely sounds great with pedals and effects too. Its pretty damn loud. And if you have an efficient cab you can really chug with authority at that strong but respectful band volume level. I dont have enough experience with alot of mini amps otherwise. The other very small but masterpiece piece is the Telos.
I love this amp. It meets my criteria, has 3 great sounding channels. Reduced weight and wattage is a big plus. It is a bit more expensive, than I would like. I think it is worth it. I dig the tri-yang imprint on the tolex. Not sure why there needs to be 2 led lights to let you know which channel your using...I like the overall design. Curious about the layout of the footswitch. Sounds excellent.
Way late to this comment but for others in the future: I own this amp and the 2 LEDs per channel I find very useful. One light is positioned under the channel volume, while the other is under the channel's gain. Great for low light situations.
Footswitch is 4 buttons. One per channel and the boost switch
Between this amp and a Soldano which one do you think has more of a British flavor to it?
Yeah man. Pure Bogner right out of the gate. That amp sounds great. Great playing BTW.
Great sound!! Awesome!!
Well Damn! It sounds like tones and riffs that should be heard in a movie about an army of people taking on an evil and oppressive government! Guess who wins?....
REZAAAAAAAA! Excellent as usual.
Awesome! Thanks!
In green mode, does it take pedals well?...Fenderlish clean or has its inherent sonic texture?....awesome demo,absolutely thumbs up!
Dukey it definitely takes pedals well sir! thanks for watching.
Fuck me that sounds vicious. Nice!
GREAT SOUND!!!
The amplifier needs a depth control in the power section like the 5150.......that would make it shine
It has a depth control section.
It's got that noise.
Nice demo man, you sound great on this. I wonder how that Blue channel do for more Blues/Classic rock stuff though.
Emre Emre check out the incredible demo by Jeffery Marshall for that!
@@RezaMatix Cool thanks let me see
Sounds great! Just to be clear, you were playing thru Greenbacks?
speakers are mentioned in the description box
@@RezaMatix Yup! Sorry, I just saw the 1960BX cab. I thought it sounded pretty chimey for Greenbacks.
Uber Ultra or Xtc....can't decide. I'm aware they're different
@RezaMatix Hey nice playing, I really enjoy your demos! Best recorded amp demos on YT by far. I recently got a Diezel VH2, and wasn't blown away by it. I primarily play Tool/Deftones type riffs, but sometimes go heavier. I know Adam Jones uses the VH4, but my VH2 just sounds a bit lifeless and sterile. I was thinking about selling to get one of these. What do you think?
Isaac Jarman hey man, thanks for the kind words and for watching (hopefully subscribing!) , i would recommend before you move on from that amp you try rolling some preamp tubes. they will have a pretty serious effect on the gain flavor. get some 8th generation chinese 12ax7's in the first 2 slots of the preamp section and see how that feels first.
Got one on the way!!!!
Sounds great RezaMatix, what did you switch on at 9:00 an OD pedal?
amp has an internal boost on the foot switch
Awesome sounding amp!
You always mention Arcane pickups, but what set do you use? I’d like to try them too.
Giorgio Cimoli ask for the Reza set ;)
RezaMatix that’s great!
What specs are they?
Do you use them in all your guitar?
I’m not really a metalhead, I usually tend to like PAF style Humbuckers. Thanks
@@giorgiocimoli1025 Alnico 8 Bridge 13.5K DC , Alnico 5 Neck 8k., they are hot PAF style for sure. but not too much.
RezaMatix thanks a lot 👍🏾
Nice Reza!!!
Reza, I'm thinking about purchasing this, as a second amp head to go with my Friedman BE-50 Deluxe. Sounds damn good to me in your demo. In person, will this thing sound quite a bit different than my BE-50 Deluxe? Another words, Do You Think It Sounds Noticably Differrent? That would be the only way I would want to get it. Thanks In Advance.
totally different
Great demo! How would you compare this amp to the Shiva 20th Anniversary that you demoed a couple years back? Cheers!
much leaner in the mids (in a good way) not nearly as much power. more extreme metal sounds right away. more versatile overall. Clean channel on the Shiva always wins.
@@RezaMatix Thanks for the feedback! Any chance you have tried the new SLO-30? I'm on the fence between these two.....Cheers!
Ian1eh yes, the SLO-30 is great, not nearly as versatile as the Bogner tho.
Please do a bogner Helios demo!!!!!!
Would you prefer this over the Shiva 20th Anniversary for aggressive riffing? I've always wanted to try one of those but now I'm considering a 3534. I'm looking for a different flavor of amp to compliment my Mesas. Thanks!
3534 is gonna cut better but has half the power of the Shiva..
@@RezaMatix Not too concerned with power as I'm a home player for the most part. Just looking for a great aggressive sounding alternative to what I already have. Thanks for your reply and your awesome videos. It's greatly appreciated!
Which Arcane pickups are these Reza? Sounds killer!
they are called the "13"
I see channel volumes at noon. What are you running the loop/"global master" at in this video? Will that also impact the by gain on tap?
global master is up half way
@@RezaMatix thanks. That's a big difference from my 9am bedroom volume. Can't wait for dad-band practice to crank it up. Which also tells me a may find myself dialing the gain back on the blue channel as power tubes get pushed.
How do you eliminate phase/timing issues when you have one mic on the grill and one 1 ' back? Love your channel
JBEE 85 great question! you move the farther away microphones waveform in the daw up to match the closer. very easy, zoom in to a big transient and make sure the waveforms are crossing zero at the same point in the waveform.
RezaMatix ur the man thanks
Is this amp ripping loud with the volume at noon and Pre-amp [gain 2] at 2 o’ clock during the beginning of the second channel demo at the beginning of this video? Does the amp get to practice volume or bedroom volume, or does this beast tear your head off at 1?? My Soldano Hot Rod 50 Plus is ripping loud past 1-1/2 and it dries me nuts..
that's a 50 watt amp, it's supposed to be loud. this is 35 watts, that's still pretty powerful. I never understood why people buy these powerful amps and want to play them quietly...they don't even sound right till you get them up half way.
@@RezaMatix When I bought my Soldano almost 25 years ago amps like this didn’t really exist in many platforms, it was either 50 or 100 watts. I was just curious if this amp was manageable at lower volumes or if you would still need to power soak it to get tones.
@@donkasner2396 It can get mouse fart quiet but that's not really the best sound of any amplifier
Do you find that it would be loud enough to gig with ?
depends on the gig 🤷🏼♂️
Mine has nowhere the level of gain on the blue channel shown in the first minute. Also sounds not as clear as it does here. If mine actually sounded like this I would consider keeping it.
you also do not have the same cab/speakers/pickups
Chris O'Donnell There’s more gain available on the b1 & b2 settings. Also noisier though, more hiss.
@@eguilherme1 Yea I know. For 2k this thing is ridiculously noisy. Back it went.
I was thinking the same thing. Mine is nowhere near that gain at the same setting. But I chalked it up possibly to pickups. My 490/498 set runs pretty hot but not that hot. Nor do my Bob Balch Railhammers.
@@BrokenFusion72 weird, mine was not noisy.
I’ve got a question for you. I’ve never been a fan of the V30. I love Bogner cabs and would love to get one of their 212s and put in 2 Alnico Creams. How do you feel the 3534 would sound if it were an open back cab? It sounds awesome with your 412 which is closed, I imagine. Right now, the only amp I own is the AC15HW with the Blue. It sounds like a Vox, as it should. I’m just itching to pick up one of these Bogner amps. I don’t need 100 watts and this looks like the perfect amp for my needs (wants).
These are great amps they're like having a Feral mini ecstasy
I'd really like one but... no stock anywhere! :( Nice demo, very well done.
used on reverb. there are some.
@@RezaMatix This is England my friend, we have nothing :'(
What is your thoughts between this and the 100 watt? Was a major difference in sound or major difference in gain?
nothing pushes like a 100watt
Is it me or does this version of the XTC sound more metal than the others? Tighter, more growly and aggressive. Seems like it out-metals the Uber for me too.
Great read on this. nailed it.
@@RezaMatix Glad I'm not alone lol. Honestly I like this over the big boy XTCs.
Does the Boost work on the Green Channel?
How does this compare to the 20th anniversary XTC, does it stack up next to it or is there a huge difference in quality, and sound? Also which is your favorite Bogner?
huge difference. this is more versatile and much more brutal sounding in the gain. i do love the 20th high gain mode tho, that's a different beast with twice the wattage as well
@@RezaMatix Appreciate the response, love the tones you're getting from them! Hope to get a 3534 soon, thanks again!
Sounds great. I just got one. Love it. Whats the pot in the chassis do? I didnt get a manual?
adjusts the boost amount
RezaMatix Really hmm. Someone else said its the bias control. Cant find anything in the manual. Cant reach Bogner.
@@motorboy1966 lol, i just answered you tho!
@rezamatrix Do you find the effects loop noisy? I have a annoying hum when running the effects loop volume at noon.
actually no, but i have all custom made high end cables made in a snake to prevent any noise
@@RezaMatix indeed both Bogner and Friedman make superb FX loops for amps
I just got a 3534 today and can confirm, I also have a relatively noisy fx loop when engaged. It’s noticeable but I’m still debating how I’ll be running this amp (stereo or 4cm). Tonight’s test with the GT1000core in 4cm was a ton of fun though. Guess I’ll see how it sounds with my stereo board out front and see if the noisy loops is all that bad.
Based on the sounds I’m getting out of this amp, I don’t think the loop noise will be enough to deter me.
@@inmyverdehoodie just get your hands on a Komet Ambikab Jr. and run stereo, problem solved. You wont need the fx loop going that route.
Damn dude this sounds amazing. I was set on getting the SLO30 but now I'm torn between the two.
I’m in the exact same boat. I can’t decide between the two. Wampler’s demo of the SLO and this here demo are wrecking my mind lol.
@@SC-hb8sr Imagine what they would sound like together.
Years ago I was looking for the holy grail modern rock tone and compared (in person) the SLO-100 with the then current Bogner Ecstasy Classic and the Bogner easily took the cake. The SLO is a great amp but much more of a one trick pony. The Bogner really does it all very well. Since then I now own three Bogners; Ecstasy Classic, Shiva, and most recently the Atma. All killer amps. The Atma is a direct competitor to the SLO-30 with its lunchbox size. It's the baddest little amp I've ever played.
Considering this or the telos? Is the telos a bit less aggressive more vintages voice? How do they compare
Watch the Telos video on my channel. There is also something Telos(like) coming soon from Bogner if you can wait. :)
@@RezaMatix I’m sure you already know, but this is the most helpful channel for amps etc
Thank you! I’ll hold off and wait
Found one local for 1400 too bad I’m poor af when a good amp comes around !
What do you prefer? This or the 20th anniversary shiva? Sounds awesome
Matthew Tiner I would say they equal each other out in a lot of ways, this one is more versatile, but i like the clean channel of the 20th more..
can we hear a demo with the gain on the blue channel down a bit doing some crunchier stuff? (thin Lizzy/AC/DC etc)
I'm on the fence about buying one of these and love most of what I've heard so far, but it needs to be able to deliver those types of tones for me too.
kmanick there are a couple other demos online like that, i'm sure you have seen them no?
@@RezaMatix they're either really low or like this (and I play a soloist too so I'd love to hear the blue channel with the gain down a bit. I want to ditch my JVM and downsize to a smaller foot print to gig with and this guy here is the front runner ....so far, but I haven't really heard a good bright crunchy AC/Dc type of tone out of it yet. lots of chugging and AIC riffs, which is all good but not what I need to hear
kmanick it will do that no problem.
Is the Celestion alnico cream better then the vintage 30 for metal?
tough question to answer really. So many other variables. Some amps sound much more metal with V30's. The V30 is a very tried and true rock/metal speaker. I prefer G12-65's for metal to be honest with you. :)
How do you like this compare to the original Bogner 101b?
Jim Yang brighter , tighter and more aggressive
Whats your standard delay setting? Do use 2 delay pedals at the same time?
standard is one delay, around 400ms
@@RezaMatix did you have it on during this?
@@maxpower6706 if you hear delay, it's on.
@@RezaMatix I heard it there towards the end.
Is the SLO 30 really worth $700 more than this? I can't decide between the 2.
no
@@RezaMatix Thanks!