The Weirdest Reverb That Weighs Over 100lbs 💪🏼
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2023
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I'm the guy who designed and built this device (both processes were pretty much simultaneous BTW). I'm blown away that you've made so much hay out of this thing and are sharing it (or at least a virtual "it") with a wider community. Like I told you, it was time for it go out into the world to be enjoyed and I appreciate you giving it such an enthusiastic welcome.
Thanks for making the cool tool and no longer being anonymous!
you're clearly quite awesome sir!
I was expecting a plate reverb and (jeez, I'm a dork) felt an actual thrill that it was something different and pleasing in reverb. Now I'm looking at the yard-sale trombone on the upper shelf and pondering options.
It's very cool. Think you found the right guy to showcase it. All hail the Tubeverb.
Bravo!
Benn: vinyl is poison
Also Benn: 100 lb. PVC reverb :)
It isn't poisonous until you heat it 😂
@@lowlink534 It off gasses after that. Which is what Benn said in his video about vinyl records.
It's not hypocrisy it's SCIENCE!
Damn I just made same comment but you were 6 hours before me. 🤦♂️
PVC for plumbing and PVC for vinyl records are not the same compound. (different stabilizing material and rating).
But look at it this way, I've invented a way to recycle it! 😂
Plumber: No, we can’t fix it today. EVERY Home Depot is out of Schedule 40. I heard it’s some CZcams synthesizer cult leader named Jordan. He’s got all the nerds building some sort of doomsday sonic weapon out of PVC.
That and potato cannons
now we know why he's a youTUBEr
This video has tubes in it and the word "CZcams" has the word "tube" in it.
Thats the dry music comedy comment i was looking for 😂
boooooo
I'm calling your mother.
This comment made my day and Im not sure how to feel about that
Please go after the hearing aid industry. It's Benn Jordan or Louis Rossman. The only two people who could possibly have the know-how to deconstruct the industry's proprietary blend of evil.
Interesting. I've been thinking about them quite a bit since they became available over-the-counter. Thanks for the tip.
@@BennJordan Unfortunately, I can't quantify my experience in a linear way, due to many many factors. But as someone who has worn them since I was a teenager, and watched them change. And hate them. Because they could be so much better. In N. America, we are told to "accept deafness" so that people can make money.
The way I see it, The Wizard of Oz is behind a curtain with the software to my life. My freedom.
All medical devices are a terror now. But hearing aids need to be addressed. Apps that high-jack mics... in your ears; eight proprietary channels; software; hardware. Holding companies. Lawyers. Doctors. Sales people. NIGHTMARE, and the user is at the bottom. Try to find out what hearing aids are like on line. Find nothing but people making money off them.
Ask any audiologist to tell you what frequency "A" is, or any note. Look for a frequency spectrometer, easily downloadable, or a binaural mic, to listen to two hearing aids and see what the user describes in a hearing aid specialists office, or yes, an audiologist's office. Try asking to get the software at home.
Imagine getting pro-tools, but you must get approval to change the mix or plugin, from an in-store visit at your local music store?
I don't want the Wizard. I want the software. Pandemics. Earthquakes. Poverty. ...Not everyone can get to a friggin' doctor to access some sliders. They say it can't be done. I'm keeping them employed by never gaining independence or dignity.
Constant updates have rendered entire models for every user obsolete, unexpectedely, overnight. A doctor or rep couldn't tell you one thing about the software.
Prescription users are just more screwed. Over the counter hearing aids are a scam, to funnel people where they really want them.$$$$$$ FOR LIFE. It could be as simple as buying a guitar modeling amp or software. It really is that simple.
Every hearing aid user I know has been pulling their hair out trouble shooting endlessly, with no help from the sales reps or manufacturers. 6k$ and more. Your grandma or mine? Or me? It's everyone. The can't even tell you where a mic is located. I recently realized, hearing aid ownership is just plain indignant. It's gaslighting.
You said yourself..."Hearing is subjective." This statement makes you a hero in my world. THANK YOU. You know the truth, but the industry does not want anyone to know that. They need me to need them. People with disabilities are not good communicators statistically. Bad hearing aids can be like babies mittens that leak snow. We need someone un-debatable. Someone untouchable when speaking of these matters. Someone with resources and networking. Statistically, someone the opposite of a deaf person.
@@thebrianchannel9890 I've noticed this. My Grandad suffered for years being unable to hold a proper conversation with anyone, despite various expensive hearing aids. One day I tried out a basic app on a phone with earbuds, and he was moved to tears by finally being able to communicate again.
Hearing aids seem to rely mostly on marketing and regulatory gatekeeping, with hardly any technological innovation. And they all seem to sacrifice basic functionality in order to make them "invisible". Which seems misguided, since people will happily walk around wearing headphones or spectacles.
Pretty sure you could capture the distortion (though not the time-based stuff) with NAM (Neural Amp Modeller). It's an astounding piece of open source software.
@@andybrice2711 You said it. You get it.
If you're interested in capturing the pipe distortion, IK Multimedia's Tonex plugin could do it. I've been capturing all of my overdrive pedals with it, an interface, and a reamp box. The results are really accurate to the source.
Now that I think about it, Neural Quad Cortex and Kemper could do captures of it as well. I want to say there are one or two open source plugins available that do captures, but I'm not as familiar with those.
yeah that would be so interesting!! I wanted to recommend neural amp modeler for it but tonex should also work!
@@PoparadNAM
Supposedly Acoustica Nebula or whatever too
Neural Amp Modeler (NAM) is also a great option since it's free.
Incredibly cool. Love it. (when you put that Alesis Microverb II snapshot up I suddenly felt a 'Bad Gear' vibe LOL). So cool to see your Dad helping out!
Absolutely love the sound of the lap steel through the thing. Nicely done!
Oh this looks cool. Nick Zammuto put out an album in the nineties (I think?) of sound played through variable lengths of PVC pipes, further processed in Max/MSP. Loved that.
Yooo I forgot about Zammuto
@@scamculture Never forget the Zammuto.
@@ChristopherStoppiello nor does one mess with the Zammuto.
yesss - happy to see more zammuto fans
As a sound guy I loved this video - it does give the illusion of a much larger space that has complexity. It does seem to have "the sound of pvc' being what I perceived as a little bit "630-ish" and down a Db or two above 1k. It does have a very pleasant timbre that is subtle. Excellent examination of the device. 👍
This kind of reminds me of the Bose Soundwave home stereo things. My dad used to be a salesman and the sales pitch was similar. I think he said one of the demos they used to do was to have a wall of fake speakers and then reveal that it was all coming out of this one box because it was supposed to sound much bigger than your regular home stereo/boombox kind of thing.
I was regularly watching Gardnsound's channel a long time ago, it's cool to see you guys (and Bill!) connect like this, it feels like it was eventually gonna happen!
This is just wonderfully bonkers and utterly brilliant at the same time. Thanks for sharing and thanks to Jeff for creating it too.
Benn, your videos don’t always get put into my feed…but when they do, my ears are always very happy for it! 🥳😁👍
That was a very cool video, but my main takeaway was that I wanna try building microphones. I love tinkering and soldering and I love music gear, so I'm always looking for ways to combine the two. Benn, if you're ever brainstorming ideas for a video, I would be very interested in hearing about your mics!
i wish i had a setup that could solder tiny little mems devices with 0.2mm pads because the vesper VA1210 could be a really interesting contact mic
Beautiful convolutions - what a great experiment!
This reminds me also of the Universal Audio Cooper Time Cube that some studios used once in a while in the 70s. 🙂
Various lengths of hose insulated in a box with a speaker on one end and a mic on the other.
Soooo many laughs out of this story! I particularly liked the quick cut after "gatekeep".
I worked as an extra hand at a water treatment manufacturing facility. We'd have these massive lengths of interconnected piping before we put the substrate in. I would go in on sundays and mic the ends and create some really crazy convolutions. If I had time, I'd bring a speaker and just blast some stems through and mic those. There is something special about the sound, that and its funny to think that a track or two incorporates a ~5 ton General Motors water treatment machine
Ben, your channel is literally youtube premium. Thank you for making these awesome mini films!
So cool! At least i'm not not the only one geeking out about this. Back in the early 80's I built speaker cases with a guy that worked for Electro Voice. Sometimes wood, sometimes pvc or whatever he could find. Always a good time.
I'm Bolivian and whenever we get mentioned in any way, shape or form, I get really excited. Specially when it has nothing to do with cocaine
always enjoy how warm your vocal mic is
You know Benn, I found you years ago through The Flashbulb project, but I STAY for shit like this. LOVE IT!!!
Benn you are a mad musical scientist and this is awesome 🤩🤯 Thanks so much for sharing!
Wow, this is such a fun and educational tool.
Thanks, it helps the mind work and want to learn more.❤
Benn, you can capture the distortion in a smiliar way to the reverb using a free (and open-source) plugin called AIDA-X. It is a machine-learning based non-linear hardware capture and emulation tool. The project provides a specially built audio file that a bit like a Dirac impulse - when played through a non-linear system it will excite it in different ways, giving AIDA-X data to build a neural model of the distortion, which you can then load into the plugin and use like an IR reverb. Only it's for distortion. Try it!
Super cool, enjoyed Benn! All the best to you my friend!🎷🎷
Thankyou for yet another satisfying, albeit a short but sweet video.
fabulous channel dude. I'm new to it and having a great time.
Great video... Interesting pipe-thingy... and Nice drones. 🙂
You are the guy that convinced me to pay for the full version of FL studio. I thank you very much. Im still learning, still trying to make something i can be really proud of, but I'm very thankful I listened to your advice. FL is fantastic. :D
Woah! it sounds amazing! didn't expect that!
Man those synth sounds were gorrrgeous!!!
Great video Benn. I hope someday you do a video on Impulse Response. That whole topic is fascinating and I'm so ignorant about how you use it.
Great presentation of a very creative device !
I recorded the ‘Megastar’ live DVD for Blue Man Group. I spent many hours during pre-pro marveling at their PVC instruments and then capturing them. Though their concept is the opposite to what you discuss here - deliberately resonant at a single frequency rather than randomizing delays - I’m struck by the similarities. The outrageous design and build are integral to their appeal as well as their very musical quality, producing not only a fundamental but also a subtle harmonic set and yes, short delays. The mix of that sound with a rock band was absolutely brilliant, the perfect percussive lead instrument taking little to no sonic space away from the drums-bass-guitars and even vocals. Aside from the theatrics, it is obviously a very appealing sound as I listen back to those recordings now.
Saludos from La Paz, Bolivia! I'm currently wrangling beats in Texas, but I grew up in La Paz. Great video as always Benn.
excellent video production, intro and story, you earned a subscriber
also i can't believe mr bill is ur neighbor :3
It sounds absolutely gorgeous on your guitar!
This is totally on brand Benn weirdness and we are here for it. Love it. I think you should Tonex capture the distortion.
Love that you’re also “buying weird DIY gear on Craigslist”-pilled. I love my “electric accordion” (accordion bolted to a nightstand with the bellows replaced by an industrial strength blower fan)...
Funny that I have literally thought of this very contraption... haven't made it yet !! Props to the man who carried through with his ideas !!!
you are probably my favorite youtuber. this is way too cool
Dude this is SOOOOO cool. Thank the algorithm gods for putting this in my feed today.. Wow!!!
you’re a fellow lefty guitarist!! awesomely entertaining and informative vid, as always :)
This has reminded me, I need to follow up on a little project Ive had in mind for ages - to make a PVC pipe flute like Robert Rich uses.
Great video Ben.
Fellow Robert Rich fan 😎
This is funny because I saw this thing on Craigslist weeks ago and was wondering about it. Glad you can show us.
This is exactly the kind of weird shit that I've been wanting to see for a while! 😁🧡
Would be cool to make a mechanism that rerouted the pipes to be different lengths, controlled by some sort of switch (or like a trumpet?)
Thanks Jeff great work 👍
Jeff thanks you. :)
Wow this is interesting! Thanks for making this video : )
A Kemper Profiling Amp might work to capture the distortion.
Impressive and satisfying 👏🏻
I'd love to see a video going into the procedures you're using and explaining the process of creating these sounds. I've never seen anything like this before and not sure what you mean by impulse. It seems you're speaking to people who already know all this stuff but if you could make a video for people that don't, I think it would really help us appreciate how cool this really is.
You could maybe capture the distortion by sending a bunch of different frequencies into it and then looking at the output, and mapping samples to each other. Probably has a bunch of hysteresis in it that might be hard to model because of the reverb, but I wonder if you could use a deconvolution with the recorded impulse to get a non-reverbed but still distorted waveform?
Love it!!!
This is a similar idea to what the Cooper Time Cube did, which is passing sound through a stretch of hose with a microphone picking the side on the other side. The two stretches of hose inside gave you a time delay of either 14ms, 16ms or a combined 30ms. That would give you either a very short delay or doubling effect which always seems to sit well in the mix. Only 1000 units of the Cooper Time Cube exist, so it's a pretty unknown piece of gear. UAD has a plugin version of it, but you can easily build your own.
The way that sounds gives me goosebumps
I have never seen one for real, but I have plans for one in a book on the subject of creative tape recording from the 60s. There are some differences but the idea is the same as this one.
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Thanks to the designer for devising such a innovative tool. Thanks to Benn for the presentation.
I also tend to experiment a lot with sound so here is my idea: to take it a step further I would baptise the whole construction into thin concrete and let it cure. I believe that adding mass outside the walls of the pipes would result to more acoustic energy being reflected back and the output could retain more harmonic content, or at least it would sound different and hopefully equally interesting to what already is described as very good reverb by Benn. My two cents...
I was listening to your album "red extensions of me" earlier. Didn't know you had a youtube channel
When it comes to capturing the distortion of this thing you might be able to get a decent capture using Neural Amp Modeler, it was created to capture a snapshot of an amps sound but works to capture things like preamps or whatever signal chain and its harmonics. I dont know how accurate it would be with this considering it will have a decay time to it, but it may be worth checking out if you want to try capturing that distortion sound in software
Do you think you could somehow capture the distortion with a ToneX or some other amp capture device (literally no idea how those things work)? Also I know this is an obvious sounding thing to say but 8:20 really does sound kind of like it's being played through a pipe and it's wild how warm and naturally compressed it sounds. Lovely.
This video finally pushed me over the edge to become a Patreon supporter!
Oh man! I remember seeing this on Craigslist and now it's scrolling through my CZcams feed lol
Same here🤣
Oh Danny boy. the pipes the pipes are calling!
A nearby kids museum has one made of PVC pipes that gives something like a quarter to a half second of delay. The thing is massive
The impulses turned out great!
so hearing that on a pretty open and wide headphone is already wild, I can only imagine how great it must be in front of it.
Super cool concept and design from the guy that made it
Thank you!
Thanks for the links to Gardnsound and MrBill. Gardnsound and his wife made me laugh so hard. You keep good company.
My cheeks still hurt from that SLAP! video... ;-)
I always forget about FLStudio's Convolver. That thing (the unit you bought, and the FLS plugin) is badass.
Sounds amazing.
You are literally the best youtuber
Hey Benn, long time fan of your music here.
I found your channel about a year ago and I just wanted to say that even though I'm not really all that interested in music tech, or science or whatever, (I'm a drummer that just likes to hit things in a beautiful or fast (sometimes both!) way.) I love your channel because of how genuine it is. No bullshit with high quality content presented with a nice voice to listen to.
My favorite video of yours are the political ones, in particular "Why aren't there more female music producers?"
Benn, do you have a link to info about making microphones? I’ve always wanted to do that and yours sound great!
You still have the T-Style Schecter! I hadn't see a video with it in a long time so I wasn't sure if it was gone or not. I'll never forget it from "Improvised MIDI Guitar," like what 13 or 14 years ago?
well yea, it's a waveguide:) it length has to do with its properties, even when temperature affects the speed of sound. There are acoustical principles that do not require even constant speed of sound, like connected pipes of different diameter. If you try to calculate a resonance frequency for such contraption for example, the speed cancels out
i thought it was one of those setups the Blue Man group used to play with the trombone-like sliders. They gave me some ideas to rabbit hole but, when I added in my habit of dumpster diving at a high end car stereo install shop and was swimming (1000s) in speakers from 1" super tweets to self enclosed 15" subs, I developed a non-chemical habit that persists to this day. Sound is so effortlessly, endlessly, orgasmically ... idk what to call it but it stops me cold and absorbs all my attention and effort. I love it. Great channel.
After I'd had the idea to build this device, I found someone on Craigslist who was selling a Blue-Man-Group-style "Tubulum" instrument built into a rolling wooden frame. I bought it off him, took it home, dismantled it, re-used a lot of the pipe and fittings to build this loudspeaker, put an additional couple of boards across the top of the frame to make a more solid surface, and repurposed the frame as a workbench to mount power tools on.
I absolutely love this and the idea of it! I'd love to think this wouldn't be that hard of a DIY project except for the math if you're looking for a particular sort of effect. Fascinating technology!
Copper
@@spacetrucker2196 genuinely, what do you mean by "copper?" I'm not sure what you are saying.
@@bricelory9534 I was thinking what if you used copper pipe
@@spacetrucker2196 gotcha! Could be a cool effect, I agree!
I've always felt like it should be possible to capture non-linear behaviour of amps and other types of distortion as well. Similarly as to how Plugin Doctor can estimate the transfer curve of a plugin. I've been toying with the idea of developing something like this. It would require a sender and a receiver plugin combination, similarly to Bertom's EQ Analyzer. The sender would generate a predetermined signal at different positive and negative amplitudes. And the receiver would compare the received gain with the expected gain. If you would include many measurements it should be possible to fit a bipolar transfer curve. This in combination with an impulse response for the linear behaviour should be able to replicate the sound of amps quite closely.
The only thing missing from this model is any potential attack or decay behaviour, as real physical systems will never have a zero attack/decay times. But I do have some ideas on how to implement that as well.
Ooooooh! You should capture the nonlinearities with a Kemper, Neural DSP, ToneX, or the open-source Neural Amp Model or GuitarML or whatever.
Craigslist is already out of stock in my area. This always happens!
at least ur reasoning was honest, props
This. This right here is what the very fabric of the internet is for.
This is so weird and ridiculous and I’m totally loving it
I’m thinking to really complete and finish this thing you’ll need to paint it seafoam green and candy apple red. Next string up a bunch of multi colored led lights and you’re done!
Can be used as holiday decorations too.
⚓️ Thanks Benn 😎 this reminds me of going down the rabbit hole with Burnett & White 🌈 T Bone & Jack ♨️ have you seen the Paul Davids nuc plant experience? 👏
I am also a Jeff and I also want to build one now… also those mics… any plans to do a video on how to build a mic (other than a subkick from a speaker, of course)?
Reminds me of a mechanical band pass filter, like old hams would use
This is a neat device and thanks for sharing! HOWEVER I’m sorry you didn’t mention the Victor Orthophonic phonographs near the very beginning.
You start with a radio speaker from the 30s or 40s with baffles which is nice, but even earlier than that is the 1920s Victor Orthophonic phonograph which was one of the most advanced and (in its day) expensive acoustic phonographs ever built.
Its claim to fame among phonograph collectors and historians is its HUGE long “folded” (really, I think looped around or wrapped around itself) internal horn whose end is mounted behind a grill with grill cloth. An ignorant person seeing one of these internal horn Orthophonic consoles at an antique shop or estate sale (or phonograph museum or collector’s house) might assume it’s just an ordinary medium size speaker located behind the grill cloth not a VERY LONG ACOUSTIC HORN which if stretched out I think would be over 8’ long(! Over 16’ long?).
The engineers in the Victor labs experimented with various lengths of horn and various ways of wrapping it, so that the sound waves bouncing around would hit various “sweet spots” at the bends, resulting in as natural a sound as possible (or at least that they could calculate pre-computer) with as few “Wolf notes” as possible.
(A “wolf note” or “wolf tone” is a pitch in the recorded frequency, usually present on an audio recording but sometimes made by the playback device, which is remarkably distorted or harsh-sounding compared to the other pitches, due to acoustic distortion and/or sympathetic resonance / buzzing or vibration).
Their intention was to reproduce the widest range of frequencies possible using strictly acoustic technology and they were probably the last major advance in acoustic phonograph technology before the amplifier and decent speakers and microphones became a commercial reality and overtook it in the marketplace.
They were mainly sold to rich and upper-middle-class people in the mid to late 1920s for their homes.
These Orthophonic phonographs, though rare today, can be still found available on several places on the internet, usually for a few hundred dollars (20-40 years ago when the antique phonograph market was really hot, they would go in the thousands of dollars or more).
As a person who studies these things it would be really cool if you got an Orthophonic acoustic phonograph to study. I have heard several play records in person, and both with acoustically-recorded and electrically-recorded records, I think they produce some of the best and most “natural” sound playback of any acoustic phonograph.
To me, they sound much like a later amplified phonograph with a speaker from the 1930s or 40s (but maybe with a little more presence or depth?).
They’re really cool and an unintentionally “well kept secret” that phonograph collectors know about but which the general public has sadly forgotten.
Again it would be really awesome if you got one and did a video about it!!!
I saw one at the California Antique Phonograph Collectors’ Society Show and Sale mart which is held annually in Buena Park, CA in August, a couple years back when we had a booth there selling records and phono parts.
I think I wrote down the seller’s info somewhere (name, phone number etc) but will have to dig for it.
However they come up for sale fairly often so if you join some of the antique phonograph and 78 RPM record groups on Facebook, I’m sure you can find one in your area.
tubes and pipes are fucking sick so yea great thing to be obsessed with
Most amazing reverb i have use as child with harmonica was a pipeline under construction in 70's some km of pipes :P
its nice to get a random reminder that im not the only one out there that plays the guitar left-handed/upsidedown
You should try to capture the saturation using Neural Amp Modeler or something before you get rid of it!
I'm glad somebody finally bought that damn thing, lol. I kept seeing it on CL and had to keep telling myself "You don't have any room for this, you don't even want or need it, quit looking at it!" like it's some sort of cursed totem.
Sylvia Massey has a video about a very old "delay" that sends sound through a coiled-up garden hose. Same thing at play here?
This is pretty impressive to be honest. I'd be interested in seeing you make another version of this. Pretty badass benn