Yeah. The sexual repression the church imposes on men actually causes men to become _more_ preoccupied with sexual thoughts and any "triggers" from what women are wearing that might cause them. It's counter productive to portray sexual or sensual thoughts as bad. If they were to grow up acknowledging that it's male nature to be drawn toward certain visual stimuli, then it would be brushed off so much more easily, and _even less_ would come of it in the guy's mind.
Thomas Davis exactly! Just treat it as normal and then get on with your life. There's also a measure of reverse psychology, because if you tell men not to think sexual thoughts and not to look at any image showing a woman partly or completely naked, then they'll get the tendency to want to do it even more than they normally would. Whereas otherwise, they might not even bother with it much.
I was told by my young women’s leader not to wear a crossbody purse for the same reason. Also we had a whole fireside about “butterfly shirts” which basically told us not to wear shirts with anything eye catching on the chest. The example was a shirt with a butterfly on it.
I don’t see how dressing in a revealing way is bad. If you’re a guy and see a cute girl dressed hot, just appreciate it and move on. Don’t be creep about it just appreciate it. “Rejoice in every good thing.”
The woman waits until it's nearly dark and then tries to bathe in private and David climbs out on a roof to peep. Let's use that as an example as to why women need to cover themselves. UnREAL!!!
Is the paradox apparent to anyone else? If she were truly acting according to how she advocates, her blogs, her books, her message would not be available to other women because she would be silent, in the kitchen, and probably preggers.
I know I'm coming to this post way late, but I wanted to add what I know about human sex drives anyway, just in case someone was watching more recently and was curious as well as wandering the comment section. Anyway, based on what I remember from my undergraduate studies (the animal behavior part of my degree that didn't often focus on humans but did include some studies especially in terms of social organization) men and women do have the same sex drive with individual variation not based on sex or gender. However, the peak of the sex drive is different for men and women. Men tend to peak at approximately 18, whereas women tend to peak at around 30. (This should probably be taken with a grain of salt because I'm sure there has been more research in the years that have passed since I was in college.)
The transformed Wife should have a sense of shame for the damage she's causing young girls by this drivel she's spouting. NO one has any right to tell anyone, they should have shame or be shamed by what they do or wear no matter what, and learn to speak for herself and not spout crap taken from a article written by a man.
Can you do a video on how you embraced sexuality after leaving the church? I find it so hard to enjoy anything sexual because I still feel guilty and ashamed.
The Tao Te Ching is the way. Be true to yourself, know your nature, replenish, rejuvenate and nourish. One of the greatest thing's I did for myself when my husband mistreated me was have a great time in Miami Beach! Great memories. Susan
TANNER THAT SHIRT IS SO IMMODEST YOU REALLY SHOULD STOP ENTICING MEN. How lucky am I that as a woman I'm neeeevvvvveeerrrrr visually stimulated, nope, never.
Thank you for saying the part about it you choose to be a stay at home mom. Being progressive sometimes I feel like I’m not up to speed because of being a stay at home mom. I have dreams and goals and wear many hats and having the freedom of ignoring the dishes to do whatever the fuck I want to heighten my mind and align my higher self with my physical self feels really good sometimes. 😂 Anyway I thoroughly enjoyed part 2 as I did part 1. ✌🏻
I chose to stay at home, and absolutely none of that decision was because someone else outside of my home thought it was my lot in life as the wifely woman. I did it for sanity and convenience and because I wanted to raise my children and I had the luxury to be able to do so.
transformed wife: men care most about looks and women care about personality transformed wife: women need to live their lives to please their husband also transformed wife: THESE VAIN HARPIES SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON COSMETICS AND DRESSES TO TRY AND ENTICE MEN so women need to be beautiful dolls, but you still gotta shame em for trying to do so (and also say that they're trying to look good only for men, not for themselves). there's no way to win lmao.
I imagine that right after God chastised Adam and Eve for discovering they were naked, he announced a new clothing store. Knowing religion, that would be consistent.
Sam made the perfect poll question at the end: what part of your body are you most ashamed of? Thighs. Thick thighs save lives but make jeans shopping a bitch
The woman writing this article obviously has no idea that women also use and abuse porn. i personally know one lds family where both of the youngest children of 4 have tons of sexual problems from being raised in a repressed, purity culture. The youngest son - now middle age - has abused and violated every woman he's been involved with and is now serving hard time for aggravated domestic assault including kidnapping and rape. This man was a born under the covenant, church going, temple recommend carrying, priesthood holder and Sunday School teacher - make it make sense. A toxic mother, passive, over worked father and high control cult created this monster.
Little does Alexander know, clothes were invented thousands of years before she thinks the universe began and it was to protect our ancestors from the elements
People like to take verses from 1 Timothy 2:11. I honestly wonder if it’s sarcastic because 15 of that chapter says that women will be saved through childbearing. But no Christians will argue that. Also Galatians 3:28 contradicts this strict interpretation because their is neither male nor female. Also Priscilla corrected Apollo’s in Acts 18. And Romans 16:7 Junia was mentioned among the apostles. Depending on the transaction it’s Junis, which is male but Junia is female. And there were female prophets mentioned in both the old and new testaments. But people cherry pick a verse from 1 Timothy and a verse from 1 Cor.
Ironically “modesty” in the bible often referred to “not being flashy” not just, not being “sluty” It talked about, wearing jewelry, braided hair etc. they had a completely different view of modesty than we do.
According to the story of Adam and Eve, God did not give humans clothes. God left them naked in the garden, and it wasn't until they ate the fruit from the forbidden tree that they became aware of their nakedness and attempted to cover up. Just saying, for someone who claims to know the Bible so well, she has already completely failed. I don't even take a literal interpretation of the Bible, and I know that story.
5:45 I think the only value modesty provides women is it increases their sexual market value if they are attractive. But what we consider as attractive and modest is a combination of culture, context, and biology.
It is so prevalent that even in a non-religous setting at school I had to mimic body shame in PE so I didn't stand out too much (I have NO natural body shame even though I'm currently officially fat)
My dude, at 3:45, the reason it’s offensive regarding the claim that men are just “turned on” or some predatorily instinct is triggered, is because it’s an excuse that is unscientific and acts as an excuse for men in how they treat women, if they can’t control themselves they can’t be held accountable. It takes the onus off men.
There’s fully biological reasons why women have lower sex drive. We have way less testosterone. This is something that trans ppl often notice, when a trans women goes on blockers/ female hormones generally their sex drive drops drastically. Obviously there’s outliers, some women have a super high sex drive, some men don’t. On average though it’s not this way.
I wish you would not assume that you can't be happy with children. Maybe that's not what you mean, but it comes off that way. I have five children and I just turned thirty. It's hard no doubt, but it's absolutely worth it. I can't imagine my life without them. One of our baby girls passed away a couple of years ago. It has been t he deepest pain I have ever felt. It's possible to be happy with kids, and also for have frustrated times to. Life is layered you know?
It definitely is. We may have come across that way because we personally don’t want children right now but we absolutely recognize that they can bring people a LOT of joy that we haven’t experienced yet. So sorry to hear about your baby girl. 💜
If women are more enticed by how they are treated, then men in the church should stop "Laying on of the hands." In fact, using that model, most of the things the male leadership does can be construed as flirtation.
Tanner’s 20 second “O” face around 10:00, in response to the notion that women should maintain shame regarding their bodies, literally made me laugh out loud. The banter between you two is just so RICH. Side note: Sam, you look extra naturally glowingly gorgeous here, and Tanner’s chest definitely deserves some praise.
Some women are into porn. Also, romance novels are also a booming industry, and they cater to women. Romance novels, rom-coms, and similar media are female porn. They give women the same level of unrealistic standards of men, that regular porn gives about women to men. So, yeah, women tend to be just as sexually enticed as men are, it's merely expressed differently. Sex is a basic human need for most people (though there are exceptions), and no one should feel ashamed of something that comes naturally to them. As long as everyone involved enthusiastically consents, there is nothing wrong with it.
I really enjoy your videos. I have become increasingly uncomfortable with organized religion (of any faith) for years now, and find your discussions - though focused on Mormonism , very relatable. I have never gotten to deep with my relatively recent distancing from religion (practicing episcopal for 40 years not practicing for the last 10). I just have a general distaste for the fundamental principal of ANYONE setting rules and guidelines for how ANYONE else should act/believe/behave. I know it's over simplified but organized religion of any faith slowly began to feel "Jim jones-esque" to me. HOWEVER , (I know that was an incredibly long build up) I watch a lot of family vloggers on you tube and many of them are Mormon, and they honestly just seem like really nice wholesome families. What am I missing? While I find organized religion to be "not my cup of tea" am I being naive in thinking there is no harm in what these channels are publishing?
No, God came in to rescue them from their sin and made clothing for them. ...out of animal skins. Apparently, Adam and Eve- how they dressed didn’t suffice.
According to their own holy text, God didn't invent clothes! Adam and Eve made clothes after they ate the fruit of knowledge! It's amazing how these people who want to take the bible literally often misinterpret what's in the bible to fit their narrative.
This is what I would of continued to do. My life would of been so much better. When your true to yourself, your life works out for the better. The days of being a a door mat was suppose to have completed in the 60's! Susan
Let's be honest.. pretty much every christian fundamentalist thinks they're a """better christian""" than anyone else - at least all the ones I've ever met.
2:03 “whereas women are more moved by how they are treated” she has never met millions of women who date dipshits who treat them awfully just because there is a sexual attraction 😂
@Michael Wyatt So people who have small breasts should be ashamed of them? Women who have sagging because they fed their children should be ashamed of their bodies?
Couldn't possibly be that the fashion designers think the body simply looks beautiful and deserves praise. Maybe God doesn't like nakedness because he actually meant to make the body better. So now he just sees it as a reminder of his shortcomings and wants it hidden.
And the temple clearly shows Lucifer teaching Adam and Eve about clothes and nakedness before God ever said anything. God was fine with them running around in the buff in the Garden.
Yeah, kinda weird that even after the fall-as they say, we’ve got to give credence to what the snake said? Wouldn’t all these clothing rules be more of an indication of so called “worldliness “? (Since it’s taking in account of what the “world” says and does.)
17:20 Wait, Jesus had a son who was also crucified? Was Jesus Jesus's son? I mean, sure, the whole Holy Trinity stuff makes Jesus be both his own father and son since they're somehow all one entity...
Humans literally made the first clothes. Adam and Eve were the first to cover themselves. Yeah God made them “proper” clothes after but the idea of covering yourself was created by humans. Damn Transformed Wife 😔 doesn’t even understand the Bible
Actually pretty sure clothes were MEN'S idea. In the Garden of Eden God had us naked and we shamed ourselves and covered ourselves with leaves... if you believe all that crap. So maybe God just saw leaves on bits and thought "Oh boy, these kids need style?"
Do either of you understand sexual natures of men or women ? When the article talks about women being more inclined to be immodest that is speaking of their desire to be more attractive or stimulating to find the best mate possible.
Check the context behind those passages in the Bible. Also take on the whole council of God ( all scriptures in the Bible about women) before you judge what Jesus, Paul, and all of them thought about women. Who did Jesus show himself to first after he resurrected? Women. Who did He talk to at the well when no men would have? A Samaritan women. You are making a straw man argument and then arguing against it. God loves men and women. You are just seeing what you want to see, instead of looking into the history or context behind these passages. From all of scripture you cannot fairly say God is for the oppression of women. Check your facts before you argue against them.
The Bible literally talks about God giving instructions for how to buy and sell women as sex slaves and the proper ways to beat your wife O.o Yeah, he loved women.
OMG Tanner!! I'm so overcome by your chest hair that I'm no longer a lesbian!
LOL IT HAS THAT EFFECT ON PEOPLE
This made me lol so hard because I literally came to comment that I kind of have a crush on long hair Tanner even though I'm also a lesbian
Tanner looks a little like a soft butch in the best way
lol
Stop enticing lesbians
Yeah. The sexual repression the church imposes on men actually causes men to become _more_ preoccupied with sexual thoughts and any "triggers" from what women are wearing that might cause them.
It's counter productive to portray sexual or sensual thoughts as bad. If they were to grow up acknowledging that it's male nature to be drawn toward certain visual stimuli, then it would be brushed off so much more easily, and _even less_ would come of it in the guy's mind.
Thomas Davis exactly! Just treat it as normal and then get on with your life. There's also a measure of reverse psychology, because if you tell men not to think sexual thoughts and not to look at any image showing a woman partly or completely naked, then they'll get the tendency to want to do it even more than they normally would. Whereas otherwise, they might not even bother with it much.
“Don’t think about a pink elephant”
Everyone knows Lucifer invented modesty in the garden of Eden
nah bruv, knowledge inspired modesty.
The inside secret is god and lucifer staged the whole thing
"He that lusts after a woman has already committed adultery with her."
I hope that verse is true.
Because if it is, I'm not a virgin!!!
I was told by my young women’s leader not to wear a crossbody purse for the same reason. Also we had a whole fireside about “butterfly shirts” which basically told us not to wear shirts with anything eye catching on the chest. The example was a shirt with a butterfly on it.
Fundamentalist = no FUN, a lot of DAMN, and a lot of MENTAL
. . . and lots of LISTS of rules. Lol
I'm a former Fundamental Baptist, and you summed it up brilliantly. :)
How to stop enticing men: Always wear your temple garments to bed!
I don’t see how dressing in a revealing way is bad. If you’re a guy and see a cute girl dressed hot, just appreciate it and move on. Don’t be creep about it just appreciate it.
“Rejoice in every good thing.”
The woman waits until it's nearly dark and then tries to bathe in private and David climbs out on a roof to peep. Let's use that as an example as to why women need to cover themselves. UnREAL!!!
Exactly! I suppose Bathsheba should’ve known she was being watched and giving David evil thoughts.
I am begging you to make fun of. 'The 3 Mormons.' they are killing me! I can't keep suffering through this alone!
Fabled Creature YES their content is a gold mine, basically handed to Tanner and Sam to make fun of
Is the paradox apparent to anyone else? If she were truly acting according to how she advocates, her blogs, her books, her message would not be available to other women because she would be silent, in the kitchen, and probably preggers.
I know I'm coming to this post way late, but I wanted to add what I know about human sex drives anyway, just in case someone was watching more recently and was curious as well as wandering the comment section.
Anyway, based on what I remember from my undergraduate studies (the animal behavior part of my degree that didn't often focus on humans but did include some studies especially in terms of social organization)
men and women do have the same sex drive with individual variation not based on sex or gender. However, the peak of the sex drive is different for men and women. Men tend to peak at approximately 18, whereas women tend to peak at around 30.
(This should probably be taken with a grain of salt because I'm sure there has been more research in the years that have passed since I was in college.)
The transformed Wife should have a sense of shame for the damage she's causing young girls by this drivel she's spouting. NO one has any right to tell anyone, they should have shame or be shamed by what they do or wear no matter what, and learn to speak for herself and not spout crap taken from a article written by a man.
Can you do a video on how you embraced sexuality after leaving the church? I find it so hard to enjoy anything sexual because I still feel guilty and ashamed.
It takes time, i hope you get there soon ❤
Just laughing at the ad before this video that asked me to support them through prayer🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You guys could probably do a years worth of content just on this lady's writing
The Tao Te Ching is the way. Be true to yourself, know your nature, replenish, rejuvenate and nourish. One of the greatest thing's I did for myself when my husband mistreated me was have a great time in Miami Beach! Great memories. Susan
We love the Tao Te Ching!
That thumbnail's got T lookin like a real snacc
TANNER THAT SHIRT IS SO IMMODEST YOU REALLY SHOULD STOP ENTICING MEN. How lucky am I that as a woman I'm neeeevvvvveeerrrrr visually stimulated, nope, never.
Thank you for saying the part about it you choose to be a stay at home mom. Being progressive sometimes I feel like I’m not up to speed because of being a stay at home mom. I have dreams and goals and wear many hats and having the freedom of ignoring the dishes to do whatever the fuck I want to heighten my mind and align my higher self with my physical self feels really good sometimes. 😂 Anyway I thoroughly enjoyed part 2 as I did part 1. ✌🏻
I chose to stay at home, and absolutely none of that decision was because someone else outside of my home thought it was my lot in life as the wifely woman. I did it for sanity and convenience and because I wanted to raise my children and I had the luxury to be able to do so.
transformed wife: men care most about looks and women care about personality
transformed wife: women need to live their lives to please their husband
also transformed wife: THESE VAIN HARPIES SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON COSMETICS AND DRESSES TO TRY AND ENTICE MEN
so women need to be beautiful dolls, but you still gotta shame em for trying to do so (and also say that they're trying to look good only for men, not for themselves). there's no way to win lmao.
SUCH A GOOD POINT!!!!
Watch 300. Tell me with a straight face those guys aren’t sexualized
Those guys are yummo.
Init.......
I imagine that right after God chastised Adam and Eve for discovering they were naked, he announced a new clothing store. Knowing religion, that would be consistent.
Thank you Lori, now I can use this to attract other women instead of men
Mormonism is essentially fundamentalist Islam.
Sam made the perfect poll question at the end: what part of your body are you most ashamed of?
Thighs. Thick thighs save lives but make jeans shopping a bitch
Stop enticing men, Tanner. Fetch.
"This is why God gave us clothes." Homo erectus moving into cold climates for the first time: "I! AM! GOD!"
The woman writing this article obviously has no idea that women also use and abuse porn. i personally know one lds family where both of the youngest children of 4 have tons of sexual problems from being raised in a repressed, purity culture. The youngest son - now middle age - has abused and violated every woman he's been involved with and is now serving hard time for aggravated domestic assault including kidnapping and rape. This man was a born under the covenant, church going, temple recommend carrying, priesthood holder and Sunday School teacher - make it make sense. A toxic mother, passive, over worked father and high control cult created this monster.
Little does Alexander know, clothes were invented thousands of years before she thinks the universe began and it was to protect our ancestors from the elements
People like to take verses from 1 Timothy 2:11. I honestly wonder if it’s sarcastic because 15 of that chapter says that women will be saved through childbearing. But no Christians will argue that. Also Galatians 3:28 contradicts this strict interpretation because their is neither male nor female. Also Priscilla corrected Apollo’s in Acts 18. And Romans 16:7 Junia was mentioned among the apostles. Depending on the transaction it’s Junis, which is male but Junia is female. And there were female prophets mentioned in both the old and new testaments. But people cherry pick a verse from 1 Timothy and a verse from 1 Cor.
Ironically “modesty” in the bible often referred to “not being flashy” not just, not being “sluty”
It talked about, wearing jewelry, braided hair etc. they had a completely different view of modesty than we do.
According to the story of Adam and Eve, God did not give humans clothes. God left them naked in the garden, and it wasn't until they ate the fruit from the forbidden tree that they became aware of their nakedness and attempted to cover up. Just saying, for someone who claims to know the Bible so well, she has already completely failed. I don't even take a literal interpretation of the Bible, and I know that story.
I love you guys, this is my third video from you I'm watching and wow, I'm sold! Keep up the awesome!
She has a major case of self-loathing.
Men do tend to have higher sex drives due to testosterone. But I mean that’s not to say women can’t have high sex drives also.
Between this one and part 1, you've almost talked me into getting my first tattoo to go with my mountain of debt!
5:45 I think the only value modesty provides women is it increases their sexual market value if they are attractive.
But what we consider as attractive and modest is a combination of culture, context, and biology.
The part about how we should feel shame for our bodies!! How terribly sad.
Right?
Whoa! And then it was written by a man. I was laughing due to shock at that point.
It is so prevalent that even in a non-religous setting at school I had to mimic body shame in PE so I didn't stand out too much (I have NO natural body shame even though I'm currently officially fat)
I like to look upon a maid lol it's one of my most favorite things to do. 😇👍
I love your commentary to this subject. God bless you guys!
My dude, at 3:45, the reason it’s offensive regarding the claim that men are just “turned on” or some predatorily instinct is triggered, is because it’s an excuse that is unscientific and acts as an excuse for men in how they treat women, if they can’t control themselves they can’t be held accountable. It takes the onus off men.
i will entice men all i want especially if they have beards
So, the fashion industry, which is dominated by gay men, exists to entice heterosexual men? Sound logic.
There’s fully biological reasons why women have lower sex drive. We have way less testosterone. This is something that trans ppl often notice, when a trans women goes on blockers/ female hormones generally their sex drive drops drastically.
Obviously there’s outliers, some women have a super high sex drive, some men don’t. On average though it’s not this way.
Omg you are both soo gorgeous🤩😍
If I didnt entice men, my existence in the world would go entirely unnoticed.
I wish you would not assume that you can't be happy with children. Maybe that's not what you mean, but it comes off that way. I have five children and I just turned thirty. It's hard no doubt, but it's absolutely worth it. I can't imagine my life without them. One of our baby girls passed away a couple of years ago. It has been t he deepest pain I have ever felt. It's possible to be happy with kids, and also for have frustrated times to. Life is layered you know?
It definitely is. We may have come across that way because we personally don’t want children right now but we absolutely recognize that they can bring people a LOT of joy that we haven’t experienced yet. So sorry to hear about your baby girl. 💜
Love that stylish shirt tanner
I had my first crush when I was five or so. Just ahead of the curve, I guess?
*gasp* you're enticing men with your shoulder free shirt, what's next, ankles?!
If women are more enticed by how they are treated, then men in the church should stop "Laying on of the hands." In fact, using that model, most of the things the male leadership does can be construed as flirtation.
Tanner’s 20 second “O” face around 10:00, in response to the notion that women should maintain shame regarding their bodies, literally made me laugh out loud. The banter between you two is just so RICH. Side note: Sam, you look extra naturally glowingly gorgeous here, and Tanner’s chest definitely deserves some praise.
Some women are into porn. Also, romance novels are also a booming industry, and they cater to women. Romance novels, rom-coms, and similar media are female porn. They give women the same level of unrealistic standards of men, that regular porn gives about women to men. So, yeah, women tend to be just as sexually enticed as men are, it's merely expressed differently. Sex is a basic human need for most people (though there are exceptions), and no one should feel ashamed of something that comes naturally to them. As long as everyone involved enthusiastically consents, there is nothing wrong with it.
I really enjoy your videos. I have become increasingly uncomfortable with organized religion (of any faith) for years now, and find your discussions - though focused on Mormonism , very relatable. I have never gotten to deep with my relatively recent distancing from religion (practicing episcopal for 40 years not practicing for the last 10). I just have a general distaste for the fundamental principal of ANYONE setting rules and guidelines for how ANYONE else should act/believe/behave. I know it's over simplified but organized religion of any faith slowly began to feel "Jim jones-esque" to me. HOWEVER , (I know that was an incredibly long build up) I watch a lot of family vloggers on you tube and many of them are Mormon, and they honestly just seem like really nice wholesome families. What am I missing? While I find organized religion to be "not my cup of tea" am I being naive in thinking there is no harm in what these channels are publishing?
Wait, didn't humans invent clothes because they ate the apple?
No, God came in to rescue them from their sin and made clothing for them. ...out of animal skins. Apparently, Adam and Eve- how they dressed didn’t suffice.
According to their own holy text, God didn't invent clothes! Adam and Eve made clothes after they ate the fruit of knowledge! It's amazing how these people who want to take the bible literally often misinterpret what's in the bible to fit their narrative.
This is what I would of continued to do. My life would of been so much better. When your true to yourself, your life works out for the better. The days of being a a door mat was suppose to have completed in the 60's! Susan
Let's be honest.. pretty much every christian fundamentalist thinks they're a """better christian""" than anyone else - at least all the ones I've ever met.
2:03 “whereas women are more moved by how they are treated” she has never met millions of women who date dipshits who treat them awfully just because there is a sexual attraction 😂
Y’all I had my first crush when I was 5 soooo
Same. I had a crush on three boys in school.
I’m mostly ashamed of my boobs, but I can’t tell if it’s genuine dysphoria or years of conditioning lol ✌️
Same here sister 😅
@Michael Wyatt What do you mean by that?
@Michael Wyatt So people who have small breasts should be ashamed of them? Women who have sagging because they fed their children should be ashamed of their bodies?
You guys are adorable. Love your comments and observations and humor! So nice to get pushback on all this Mormon BS!
I get it now: Lord the Taylor not Lord and Taylor. ;)
Tailor*
"Stop! You've violated my morals, pay the church a fine or serve your sentence. In HELL." ~God
Clothes are my passion? Um...sort of. Does cosplay count?
Spot on guys.😏
Couldn't possibly be that the fashion designers think the body simply looks beautiful and deserves praise. Maybe God doesn't like nakedness because he actually meant to make the body better. So now he just sees it as a reminder of his shortcomings and wants it hidden.
WTF !
Thanks Zelphers
And the temple clearly shows Lucifer teaching Adam and Eve about clothes and nakedness before God ever said anything. God was fine with them running around in the buff in the Garden.
Yeah, kinda weird that even after the fall-as they say, we’ve got to give credence to what the snake said? Wouldn’t all these clothing rules be more of an indication of so called “worldliness “? (Since it’s taking in account of what the “world” says and does.)
where'd you get this shirt tanner, i'm in love
Please somebody explain asexuals to her
Sam looks like an Olsen twin. When did you both get so hot???
Normally people tell us we both look like Olsen twins but whatever
Gold!
Haha! This is good! About the sex drive differences, wait for menopause! By the way, does anyone know what denomination she is?
17:20 Wait, Jesus had a son who was also crucified? Was Jesus Jesus's son? I mean, sure, the whole Holy Trinity stuff makes Jesus be both his own father and son since they're somehow all one entity...
Repression is so unhealthy. Just absurdly so.
Humans literally made the first clothes. Adam and Eve were the first to cover themselves. Yeah God made them “proper” clothes after but the idea of covering yourself was created by humans. Damn Transformed Wife 😔 doesn’t even understand the Bible
11 minutes in can you hear me SCREAMING ! ?
WE REALLY CAN
That talk is fucked up. Thanks for sharing! there is a ton of shame in mormonism. i lived it for 30 years.
Actually pretty sure clothes were MEN'S idea. In the Garden of Eden God had us naked and we shamed ourselves and covered ourselves with leaves... if you believe all that crap. So maybe God just saw leaves on bits and thought "Oh boy, these kids need style?"
Perhaps maybe just comfort. Leaves could get rather itchy.
Boy crazy girls shame
Lol
Love you guys
Modesty is about the heart nothing the clothing. What is ‘modest’ today would have been immodest in Jesus’s time.
Do either of you understand sexual natures of men or women ? When the article talks about women being more inclined to be immodest that is speaking of their desire to be more attractive or stimulating to find the best mate possible.
Check the context behind those passages in the Bible. Also take on the whole council of God ( all scriptures in the Bible about women) before you judge what Jesus, Paul, and all of them thought about women. Who did Jesus show himself to first after he resurrected? Women. Who did He talk to at the well when no men would have? A Samaritan women. You are making a straw man argument and then arguing against it. God loves men and women. You are just seeing what you want to see, instead of looking into the history or context behind these passages. From all of scripture you cannot fairly say God is for the oppression of women. Check your facts before you argue against them.
"Facts" 🤣🤣🤣
The Bible literally talks about God giving instructions for how to buy and sell women as sex slaves and the proper ways to beat your wife O.o Yeah, he loved women.