Xbox Just K*lled Itself...
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- Xbox management has been atrociously bad for a long time now, but this latest decision by them was so bad I had to make a video about it. Xbox Just K*lled Itself...
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0:00 - Intro
1:21 - Timeline Leading Up To Recent Events
5:00 - The Events of Today...
6:52 - Arkane Austin
8:48 - Tango Gameworks
12:33 - The Game Pass / Activision Problem
14:17 - More Layoffs and Cutbacks Are Still Coming...
17:13 - Final Thoughts
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#xbox #xboxgamesshowcase #xboxone #haloinfinite #layoffs - Hry
Not a video I exactly wanted to make, but Xbox's latest announcement about several (recently acquired and in some cases, largely successful) studios being shut down (with more cutbacks to come) made me feel compelled to.
The state of the gaming industry has been on a downward spiral for a long time, with the art form slowly fading into obscurity while business and profits take centre stage, and while gaming has always, and will always operate as a business, these latest 'cutbacks' courtesy of Xbox upper management feel like the perfect amalgamation of everything that's wrong with the industry as it stands right now.
I would say I hope these are the last layoffs and studio shutterings we see, but as inside sources at Xbox are telling numerous journalists, it instead seems like they're only the beginning.
Wishing the best for everyone laid off, an industry as large and as immensely profitable as gaming should not be facing layoffs as brutal and as frequent as it is
When the tweet about Hi-Fi Rush was on screen I swear the Microsoft account said in emojis Microsoft doesn’t love you
Johnathan kleck channel
This is happening in every industry because of corporate consolidation. This literally cannot be fixed with any other solution but government regulation but because governments don't want to regulate these industries and don't have the know-how to do so and the average governmental employee and Western countries is 8 million years old, it doesn't look like that's coming anytime soon.
The burning question I’ve been asking myself is, “why do these people keep making the same mistake and never learning from it?” The reason is because managers get paid for checking boxes, not making the company money. Now-a-days, you get paid before you do the work, so if it comes out like sh!t, they’re stuck holding the bag instead of you.
NGL, if they bought Nintendo I would've just given up. Valve owns steam right? If they bought valve I'd be scared of what they'd do to it
"I know we're losing... I just want to know if we've lost."
Fuuuccckkk
Those are high level communiques bruh
Your preaching to the converted
we havent lost. watch everyones gonna be hyped after the june showcase
We have, hope is dead
Tartarus... microsoft has betrayed us
Fool… you let them get away with it
Legitimately laughed out loud
Having recently watched the H2A cutscene, I heard it in my head as I read that XD
Like they even needed to do it in the first place.
*the profits
The irony with those 70 billion they could have made 2 massive Halo games, 2 massive Gears games, 20 new ips and revive 20 old ips as remake/remasters and have almost half of those 70 billion left. Absolute fail.
Epic fail
Instead it was funneled into political lobbying.. lol.
@@Obscure_1992nah, they could have done that and STILL had most of that money. U.S. super pacs are almost impossible to follow, but even the liberal estimates are a lot lower than people think….. politicians are upsettingly cheap! The likes of Pelosi and McConnel are being bought off with 6 figure amounts, not 7. The amount of political sway you could generate with just 1bn would be MORE than enough for even a company like Microsoft.
Most of the money went to execs and BLOAT. Massive studios like these are just chalked full of non development projects and positions that never get cut, and just drain resources. Not to mention the INSANE hypothetical values given to properties for hypothetical and potential future earnings.
All so they could own a few mediocre call of dutys and a failing overwatch. I couldn't be shaking my head harder 💀
Instead they're just going to throw CoD into the same hole they threw Halo into. Don't get me wrong, I don't like CoD. But... it exists. Most of the time that's more than you can say for Halo these days. Give it 5-10 years, and it'll be a miracle if Microsoft can release a CoD game despite trying. Acquisitions are pointless for a company that just destroys studios with terrible hiring and contractor policies or just shuts the studio down even when they're surpassing all expectations. Microsoft has made the biggest blunder the digital entertainment industry has ever seen.
The day they told people who wanted an Xbox one but didn't have internet access to go fuck themselves was when they officially kneecapped themselves and sold more Playstations than Sony ever could
not to mention the mandatory Kinect that jacked up the MSRP and was mostly just there to lock down the console if the headcount in the room went above some arbitrary number.
Sony didn't do anything special that gen, they just refrained from doing all the extra invasive nonsense Xbone tried to push.
@xXx_Regulus_xXx that and water marking the games so you had to pay to play on another persons xbox
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx I’ll be honest, the PlayStation 3 had killer exclusivities, free online services and PlayStation Home going on. They were innovative and made it accessible. My childhood wouldn’t have been the same if we had an Xbox because there’s no way our parents would have paid for online on top of paying for the internet.
I’m glad he said it because too many ppl allowed them to take physical games we owned and could play 50years later into a online subscription cloud service that gets shut down whenever they feel like it.
You’ll own nothing and like it 😂
bro deadass- I cant even load up games when I have no internet. I have hundreds of gigabytes of games on my PC that are useless without internet. Halo MCC wont even let you use theater mode without internet connection. I think MCC on steam lets you play everything though iirc. Kinda sad.
How to be a corpo in the game industry:
1. Have no brainpower for anything but the financial portfolio.
2. Make terrible decisions.
3. Never read the room.
They only hire c-suite Financial obsessed Psychopaths there's a reason even Phil Spencer or someone who supposedly likes games is mostly just a PR guy even somebody remotely like a gamer or someone who enjoys art would never be allowed to rise up into the positions above somebody like him to any significant margin because that point it doesn't matter what the company is about none of them care about what they're making they only care in the sense of what makes them more money no matter what even if it fucks them over in the long term they literally just suck off shareholders as frequently as possible
4. Cut losses; sell their way out of problem then buy/ bully way into entirely new venture under new name.
(inserting new steps before step 1)
A. Make something half decent with promises to improve upon next product.
B. Fire everyone who is passionate about product/ craft to suit investors/ self greed.
C. Make bank off universally hated aforementioned next product.
Repeat step one and so on.
@@StormTroopaKoopa Glad you're bringing up point 4. It's why execs across industries keep gutting companies. Because they did it before at other companies. And they made bank off of it. And they'll probably get away with it again after landing with a golden parachute. While their replacement continues the trend because that's how all the rich execs are getting richer.
5 Push out unfinished products to get more money to fix the issues that wouldn't even exist
You're using stupid Gen Z slang and you have the nerve to talk about brainpower?
Xbox saw Sony make a terribly stupid decision and said "My turn!"
Well Sony went back on its tracks in a mere day, Microsoft killed off whole studios without hesitation.
Lol right? They compete in every arena, stupidity included
And Xbox clearly won this round!!! 🎉😂
At the least the fans managed to strongarm Sony into reversing their dumb decision. I can't say the same about this Xbox situation.
@@NoahR_Well, Helldivers has a fanbase that is dedicated to the point of fanaticism. Xbox has people that are tethered to the platform, whether they like it or not.
CEO writing himself a $150,000,000 pay raise: we all have to make sacrifices. This hurts me as much as you. It’s been too tough financially this year. We can’t afford to keep paying so many staff we need to downsize
They should never have bought Activision. This is going to be Phil Spencer‘s Bob Iger moment when he bought 20th century Fox and look whats happened to Disney, even though Disney had problems even before that
We're watching these tech and entertainment giants fly way too close to the sun and finding out what happens
all that wasted for MW3 and Starfield, just for AA games to get the end of the deal.
So is this the time to bring up Phil's quote of "if we lose our way with Halo, we lose our way with Xbox"?
Make this top comment.
ironic
its not even relevant tbh, they lost their way with halo after reach if the statement held any weight smtn would have happened by now.
@@TheErikjsm with as much money as they had/have, it HAS "happening by now" if they're making layoffs and closing studios to this degree today. Airplanes maintain altitude for a while before finally crashing and burning.
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And then decided "Hey, let's put out a new Halo trailer"...
For honestly nothing
Genuinely, I would not be surprised if they drop one during the Xbox Games Showcase next month now to try and make people forget about the events of the last few days - that tends to happen quite a lot, hell the only reason Bethesda announce Elder Scrolls 6 as absurdly early as they did was because Fallout 76 just released and had such a negative sentiment surrounding it
343 should of been part of the layoff
Thinking that some don’t know the situation about folks being let go from their position at 343.
Well, yes we know Sunny Jim, but trying to hold 343 on pedestal makes you all look less smarter and just more blinded to the facts.
Genuinely you all need to understand it’s not only one section that makes a game go bad, yet it’s multiple factors 343 is one of them Microsoft Xbox department is another.
Learn not to move or shift the blame as both are responsible for the downfalls of these games due to bad business practices.
You’re like the guy who blames the server for food being over cooked.
@HiddenXperia but 76 was released in November of 2018. 5 months after ES6 was announced.
They announced it because they knew they had to tell the fans that they were working on something ES related because they announced Starfield at the same time.
Soooo Xbox is basically the Covenant from Halo, determined to light the Sacred Ring for their Great Journey, but if they succeed all they'll do is unalive themselves...
This could not be a more perfect analogy
@@carlosaguilera3916fr
we need teh mahster chef to stahp teh space allens AKA microsoft
As Phil Spencer already stated , if we loose our way with halo we loose our way with Xbox… they lost there way with halo on launch of 5 and infinite
I'd argue since Halo Anniversary and Halo 4.
Halo 4 actually. That’s worse than 5 and infinite tbh
@@evanmanor7444yes it all started with Halo 4. Worst game in the franchise imo.
Halo isn't dead.
@@protector_of_the_realmsyou’re tripping sacks if you think halo 4 is worse than infinite
CEO: "it had to be done, I needed the money to buy my 3rd yacht"
😂😢
And what did it cost you? CEO: "Me personally? I got a bonus in the tens of millions. But I had to fire 1200 employees."
@@l0rf 💀
Eat the rich
Compare this to the time where the CEO of Nintendo compensated for employees when the Wii U failed by taking it out of his paycheck
Seems all big corpos these days are just keen on reminding their customers that they just don’t care about *you* sometimes
yeeep Disney losing money an Xbox is like hold my beer meanwhile all these big corps an "triple A" studios an producers keep taking major hits. Gaming industry really feels like its going thru a civil war an I hope it works.
They’ve never cared
They want us to know we aren't valued or needed by them. They have a whole new generation of fresh, naive minds to sell their loot boxes and mobile games to. "What? You're in your mid to late 20s? Go do a crossword puzzle grandpa!" T. Game industry "executive" who's like 50 hasn't played a real game
@@michaelkean5969once upon a time they cared. Back when gaming was for “nerds” and “losers.” Back when boomers thought it’d turn us violent.
Sometimes?
Basically, if your small indie studio gets scooped up by MS, have a resume ready at all times.... chances are high you're on your way out, and it'll happen without warning.
*title comes up on feed*
"Sigh, what happened this time..."
microsoft’s PR for phil spencer is quite amazing, i dunno how he doesn’t get more criticism lol just seems like a smiley face to put in front of all their horrible decisions
I think this is the straw that broke the camel's back when it comes to his PR tbh
I don’t know why everyone is convinced this is 100% him, and not demands from higher in Microsoft. The Xbox division has been burning money, doesn’t generate as much as it could, and hasn’t been a part of Microsoft they’re pleased about for a while. I can definitely imagine Microsoft making mandates to reduce costs and shift priorities all over the Xbox branches, thus, these awful changes.
@@HiddenXperiaSomething you didn't mention. Is that ghostwire Tokyo Did not sell well, which was the last game They made. Also, check the achievement, something like 80% of the people who played hifi Dropped the game like 30 minutes after playing It. The game had a very very small number of players That played it from beginning to end.. The guy who made the game even said that hider rushed it and sell well and it was supposedly debunked, but it looks like he was telling the truth. Then this fact that beyond good and evil 2 was also a financial disappointment..
Has Spencer been in charge since the beginning? If not, I wish they’d bring back whoever was in charge during the 360 era
It's exactly that since 10 years...
I would say the art vs. business is basically a society wide issue. The more businesses buy and reduce competition, the more they reduce the secret sauce of good things in general. Business is soulless.
The tendency of capital to accumulate combined with the tendency of the rate of profit to decline leads to a lot of really short-sighted and self damaging decisions by big players in any industry.
Oh indeed. Management wants to get below minimum viable product and sell it for beyond the prices of a polished product, but forget that what makes a product sell are the people who work hard and actually are passionate about the project they are working on. See for example the people who worked on Redfall, they were used to making singleplayer horror games, but were thrust into making a MP game with a battle pass that has you killing zombie vampires, something they really are not geared for.
"What is it,Microtransactions?"
"Worse,Microsoft shenanigans"
"What is it? More layoffs?"
"Worse..."
It turns out the true Xbox was the failures and regrets we made along the way.
"The message just repeats. Regret, regret, regret."
@@tyvernoverlord5363 "Dear humanity, we regret being alien bastards, we regret coming to Earth, and we most definitely regret that the Corps just blew up our raggedy-ass fleet!" OORAH
@@SomeMilitaryGeneral
* Video Ends *
“They’re gonna regret that too.”
Love your pp
xbox killed the company that made Hi-Fi Rush (Tango Gameworks, the people also behind The Evil Within 1 and 2) then turned around and said that they needed more games like Hi-Fi Rush
which is even worse when you know that Tango Gameworks were planning on doing a sequel to Hi-Fi Rush.
all the executives involved in this decision need to be removed and replaced by people who actually care about the games more than the profits
That i agree.
Not even games over profits - profits for game companies come from games. You make shit games, or make no games, then there's little or zero profit.
I would love to see you make a genuinely good game plus marketing.
Never even heard of that game
Maybe Tango Gameworks should have... I dunno... made money.
Can just hear Jeff Steitzers voice saying “Suicide” constantly after seeing the headlines in my recommended
😂 Bahaha that was funny.
Arkane Austin "only" made Prey, Dishonored: Death of The Outsider, Redfall, DLC for Dishonored 1 (believe it was Brigmore Witches), and assisted Arkane Lyon with Dishonored 2.
Arkane Lyon is still alive (they made the main Dishonored games and Deathloop), so Dishonored is not on the chopping block.
Anyone surprised by Microsoft's move after they _literally_ inventing the term "Embrace Extend Extinguish" which has been their business strategy since the 90's, does not know Microsoft.
Most people aren't surprised, we're just disappointed. A surprise would be them donating their studios to Valve while the Xbox execs drive off into the sunset; what they're doing is expected.
Everyone grieving that Hi-Fi Rush 2 will never get made, but I'm here lamenting that we'll never see a sequel to Evil Within 2.
It had a good ending, why do you want to see him suffer more
Evil within 3 woulda been fire
@@TheDeathNote2 I mean, it doesn't have to be Sebastian, I agree that his arc ended nicely and the man has had enough suffering for a lifetime, it could be anyone else like Kidman or Joseph (he was never confirmed as "dead"), or maybe they could come up with the aftermath of Mobius, I dunno, some dumb excuse for more badass virtual nightmares, heck, Ruvik is kind of still loose in the real world, that was never addressed in EW2.
Halo infinite greedy, predatory shop makes a hell of a lot more sense when you realize that they're paying back and 11 digit loan. Art and love goes out the window when you are trying to turn on the corporate money machine
Yeah in the early 2000's the dev studios were mostly the "good guys" fighting on behalf of gamers. But now publisher and studio are becoming the same thing, and the whole industry is becoming liquidated and condensed into live service slop. Gaming should be seen as an artform. But unfortunately making a game with an artistic approach is the exception to the rule nowadays, not the rule itself.
TLDR: There's too many bean counters and not enough artists in the industry.
Thankfully this disease is almost entirely Western. Japanese (sans Konami), Korean, and especially Eastern Europe still do good and go for the art, even if the wait is longer
@@JohnPeacekeeper honestly I'd love longer release cycles. Games have enough to do if you play in moderation, and even if you don't there are thousands of games you haven't tried yet. I'd rather work through my backlog and give games more time for polishing. Rapid release cycles lead to enough money that parent companies with greedy investors start making stupid decisions.
Xbox used to dominate my town until September 2020,when Microsoft decided to announce that they were doing the following:
1. Shutting down all internet servers for the Xbox one in order for people to upgrade to the Xbox series X/S in November 2020
2. Microsoft also announced that they were also stopping production on the Xbox one in order to make room for the Xbox series X/S
Now, there are only 10% Xbox users in my town,it used to be 90% before September 2020.
When I got this video's notification I was watching a reel about Phil Spencer saying one thing about giving Tango creative license, and less than a year later, they're closed.
Matt Booty really living up to that name
This is what happens when executives that have no industry knowledge get into the fold.
They buy a company, let it do something well, then believe they can do it better on their own without the company. It happens all the time, unfortunately.
I'm genuinely worried for ninja theory, obsidian entertainment and undead labs😢😭
Obsidian must be protected with our lives
If they ever do anything to Obsidian... that is a true golden goose compared to Bethesda
@@Beey56Same with undead labs. State of decay 3 will be a huge game when it actually releases in a few years
InExile even
knocks on wood*
This most disappointing thing is that even if a studio makes a successful, critically acclaimed game, Microsoft will still close the studio. What's the incentive for developers to maintain morale in that kind of environment?
As a man working for his pension i couldnt fathom not having any future security for myself or my family
**disney with cancelling everything lucasfilm was making gamewise**
I feel so bad for the ~100 people in tango because their will to make games is probably dust
This is why I prefer supporting indie devs and small studios like the ones for Lethal Company. Sony and Microsoft need to get their heads out their as*es and balance things again. It shouldn't be all profits. The consumer matters too.
Tbf Sony is starting to listen (helldivers), but Xbox has just given up.
@RykSch true point there, at least Sony, seemingly, is starting to listen. Though I bet they'll try to slowly force account linking in the future. Xbox has just given up for sure and it's sad to see, since I grew up on the original xbox.
@Zaelrae if they try to force account linking literally like half of the world will be totally blocked from playing which means they have to issue refunds meaning they lose tons and tons of money, I doubt they'll pull that again with Helldivers atleast.
If they couldn't afford to keep them open, dont buy them in the first place
It's so frustrating to see that they have all the money and power to become the best gaming company ever and they still can't be half of what they were on the 360's era
That was never going to happen…. Too much centralization rarely ever makes positive change …
This is it baby, hold me.
Dude....i dont think ive ever seen Xperia stand up before....that was jarring 😮
All this time I thought he was just a floating Torso 😢
To say something positive, you reported on this very well. You provided a lot of rich detail and I can tell that your research was really on point. Id love to see more videos like this just to hear your commentary on the video game industry!
The thing that's killing gaming:
"We have $x to give out to projects. For every $1, we want to have the greatest ROI within a certain time frame. If any project beats your projected ROI, even by $1, your funding is cut."
It's literally because they aren't happy making $100m off a game that cost $15m -- If another game could make $100m+$1 for the same investment of $15m (or they can do it for $15m-$1).
That's the entire crux.... The desire to not be happy with a TON of profit, but wanting MAXIMUM profit... is what's killing gaming....
So greed?
@@LILAC_CHAOS Capitalism
What's killing gaming is the shit writing and forced diversity. People don't care who the lead character is in a game where you're just there to fuck shit up. They don't care their race or sexuality. They care about pressing start, new game, and just destroying mindless AI.
Didn't they learn that min-maxing is probably the most draining thing to do from their own games? Seriously, it is why I often don't play a lot of games involving needing to level up perks and such.
@@fickedyodad2137 No, forced diversity is more just a footnote if anything compared to the HORRENDOUS management, which, you know, are also the ones forcing that stuff.
Really, I should thank Xbox's leadership for all they're doing to help save me money as a gamer, because I'm suddenly not so keen to keep supporting the Xbox brand.
Same!
they are very likely getting rid of Xbox anyways in the near future
If you think Sony wouldn't lay off as well. You a fool. Sony is worse man. 😅
@@momsspaghetti4064 Hey, you brought up Sony, not me!
Facts I’m now gonna pledge loyalty to pc, as expensive as it is
The corporatization of the gaming community is absolutely detrimental to the art form. I called this going wrong all the way back when Halo 5's marketing turned out to be literally NOTHING like the game.
If I was a higher-ups at Microsoft giving them $70 billion and they’re screwing up as badly. The management needs to get replaced entirely with people that know how to make Xbox a well functioning machine again get rid of Phil get rid of Matt get rid of Sara and put people in there. That knows what the hell they’re doing and bring back that same energy we had from the 360 era.
Everyone is putting this on Phil but let's be real, it's the Microsoft executives ABOVE Phil that made this choice, Phil is essentially the spokesperson, the face, the "fall guy" for Microsoft.
And disgusting Microsoft is using Phil as a shield.
Tbh, I've noticed that across the board for Xbox Game Studios as a whole. A lot of the devs at Xbox talk very passionately about their games and shit, and they seem to really love the work that they do, but they still release games in shitty states. There goes a certain point in which it becomes more and more obvious that it isn't their fault, and I feel like that point hit now. What's happening at 343, Turn 10, PG Games and many other game studios within XGS isn't the devs' fault. It's micromanagement from Microsoft executives
@@mrsoisauce9017 Kinda reminds me of what happened at Bungie, where the devs were actually listening to player feedback for Destiny 2. But the higher ups were the ones slowing them down.
@@xghostx9715 it also reminds me of what was happening back when Bungie still worked for Microsoft; they were trying to micromanage the studio. If I remember correctly, that's exactly the reason why they wanted to leave
There's only one executive above Phil: Satya Nadella. Phil reports directly to the CEO of Microsoft
Man it is music to my ears to see you standing on business like this. Definitely words that needed to be said! W video 10/10
Everyone talks big about Hi-Fi Rush, but the truth is that nobody actually played it. In August they announced they had “3M players”. Now let’s generously assume that count has doubled to 6M. Well, the % of players that have completed the 4th boss is 14%. That’s just 840,000 players that stuck around for just the 4th boss.
The truth is that lots of people TRIED it for an hour, thought it was neat, but then moved on. The game wasn’t the smash hit people are making it out to be.
Yeah it was just a lame little indie rhythm game. It didn't sell Xbox
lol that’s how most games are. thats an issue w tracking engagement on game pass. if u sell a game outright u got the $ already so it doesn’t matter
After seeing what happened I don’t think Xbox should buy more studios or companies, and just focus on the one that they have
🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Well if you'd only bought every single cosmetic in the Xbox stores then maybe little Timmy would have food on his table tonight.
- tech studios
No he wouldn’t, they still fire Timmy’s dad so the CEO can use the money that would have gone to his salary to make the red line go up for shareholders to drool over…
It’s always the executives causing problems: Arkane gets shut down, halo gets made by 18yo contractors and no more hifi rush. The only way Xbox could come back is a good halo game, fallout/elder scrolls or any Fable news. Gears is a success anyway but the hype will die down in about a few months after release
Clearly have never held a serious job with performance ratings.
Is that why Corrosion is shit?
Halo won't even save Xbox at this point. I think Xbox is digging their own grave very deliberately because they've accepted that they've lost to Sony and have just decided to end Xbox in a ball of fire.
I think I may know who responsible for Mastercheeks in the Halo tv show and it's Matt Booty.
Microsoft has a long history of shitting in their own bed.
the simplest thing I can say is to everyone is support the indies, support the indiviuals behind the games you love, they are who we should be following.
sure, support the indies but only the GOOD ones. indie games flop at least as often as corpo games. Remember Mighty Number 9?
"you'll be happy but you will own nothing"
That was UbiSoft man. Not Microsoft. 😂
Yea because they’re not selling anything.
@@SpottedHares they selling gamepass and Microsoft never said that. I'm confused. 🤷♂️
@@SpottedHares thats the way the super rich want it. Ownership? Nah.. You can Rent it instead
@@RyanB571 Rent it instead ; Gamepass
I love how companies acquire studious have money to buy big companies but don’t have a plan beyond that to support it
whats crazy is these companies think giving massive budgets means great profitable game. Which has literally never been the case. Now they are surprised when their profits fall.
If I had a nickel for every time a gaming company made an awful decision in the last week I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
You’d have more than that if you account for the last 1-2 years
If I had a nickel for every time a gaming company made a bad decision, I'd be driving a McLaren.
Ha.
You'd have far more than two.
Really? I'd have a mansion.
Recently as in like this last week? or this year?
if it was this year alone, you could probably quit your job and be fine for a year.
As someone who's been wanting a sequel to The Evil Within 2... This hurts. I loved Tango Gameworks so this is just like a deep wound.
Dude that looks soooo good! 🤤
Yea I really liked Evil Within 2... great game nearly got all the achievements.
Oh wow no more Dishonoured either... one of my favourite game series to play. This is a dark day for all true gamers...
Did the devs get fired? They could just be merging into Bethesda now. Instead of seeing their studio name. Now we will see Bethesda in the credits instead. Like the studios are shut down but are the employees fired? Lay off shut down is different than being fired.
congwats fwaker nowz chu fwakn knw how we felt wen sony act. killed viceral games😢........chya fwakn sucks dunt it.....
Gaming really has left me behind, it's not the same hobby I fell in love with. I haven't switched my Xbox One on since they got rid of Gold and tried to make everybody subscribe to Game Pass, and my PC with a GTX 970 and an i5 6600 plays absolutely everything I need it to, i.e. games that are old but are actually good. I don't recognise the industry anymore. As with so much of our generation, we've had the golden era, and there's no going back.
I'm tempted to just save up for a pc now, but its hard for me since I'm in college and still work, on top of having long term friends on Xbox that probably can't afford a PC. I just want the love for games to come back.
Yeah xbox is acting incredibly foolish recently. No idea why. First Sony and Arrowhead trying to enforce PSN account linking for no reason, and now xbox killing good studios but allowing companies like 343 to keep choking and thrashing about? Insane.
Tbf the actual Arrowhead devs were in support of the review-bombing 'cause it gave them leverage against Sony (Vs the community managers who seem to have been simping for Sony considering the stuff they said lmao).
Just Sony. AH didn’t want the PSN linking
Redfall was a good game? I don’t think it lasted 2 months on gamepass. Clearly these games weren’t that good.
@@FXIIBeaver Yo bro, pass whatever you're smoking my way. I wanna be as skezzed as you to where I confuse two completely different games from two different studios.
@@retroicdescent please list the two games I mentioned.
8:45 Given how up their own a** executives are, they'll probably either fire him or just completely ignore it.
The thumbnail should've been the Red Ring of Death
This and the Helldivers/Playstation Network account fiasco makes me wonder if we're in another video game industry crash like the dreaded 1983 one that ended up with ET game cartridges being buried in a landfill.
at this point I hope so. let it "die" long enough for investors to go leech off of some other industry and teach people what happens to the always online games that they """own.""" only people who actually like video games would come back after that, at least for a time.
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Xbox just ki**ed itself
343:
its not their fault this time
They're fixing shit finally
@@LILAC_CHAOS I shot myself in the foot 3 years ago for no reason and did nothing after that, but I will see a doctor next week. Boy am I excited how I will be able to walk after this!
@@yoshisaurusrex3767awful analogy
is analogy doesn't make any sense at all
Tango Gameworks dies while Microsoft Teams still exists. Shit's baffling.
Elaborate please!
The craziest thing is how Bethesda softworks and 343 survived this culling. You're also right about live service slop being the priority. Xbox is likely going to be pushing for fallout, elder scrolls, and cod for the foreseeable future.
The last game I bought on Steam was Elden Ring. That was after a year of watching guides and reviews, which got me thinking it was a solid buy. Aside from that, I've been playing more retro PS2, 360 and PC games (Sins, Empire at War, Price of Persia: SoT, BF2 (modded), Morrowind, Forbidden Memories, Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, and Reach. I've just lost faith in contemporary gaming; like there's a disconnect between the publishers, the studios and players.
The future of video games is firmly entrenched in Asia. Japan, and increasingly, South Korea and China. The American corporate environment and sociopolitical culture are unsustainable.
The sentiment I get from this is Microsoft/Xbox is like, “Oh shoot the studios that we don’t properly maintain and make sure are outputting the best work they can aren’t giving me the results we want? We’ll just buy even more studios and then fire the people who failed to make profit because they have to pay for our mistakes!”
Pirate Software made an excellent point about this. The actual value in a game company are the developers. When you fire/lay off the staff, you forever lose that talent & knowledge. Halo Infinite is a clear example of this, cause it cycled through staff you always lost knowledge
I know we love blaming execs for this clusterfuck, but remember they get their marching orders from their board of shareholders; most likely setting a mandate on recouping or reducing costs in a certain time frame. I guarentee the recent decisions within both Microsoft and Sony leadership was from shortsighted board members wanting to maximize every iota of their portfolio.
Can we just stop relying on corporate to make GAMES?
no because indies screw up just as often. there are lots of people out there with big ideas who can't actually bring them to life. a lot of "indie games" are just kickstarter scams or fail because the solo developer was ToO dEpReSsEd to make the game they promised. At least with corporations you usually get _a game that exists_ instead of paying in advance for no product.
@xXx_Regulus_xXx still better than the corpos being leaches for our wallets even though they have MILLIONS to work with, and still end up making worst shit than indie games now-a-days, I just want to have fun good game to play and stream, and apparently thats too much to ask for for no reason, none...no fucking excuses
Man anti-343 sentiment skyrocketed while the real villians are the dumbasses who decided to shutdown those game studios
both are bad, actually 🗿
"One more word Oracle and I rip your eye from it's socket! Which is nothing compared to what I'll do to you" - Microsoft to Tango Gameworks.
Bro you should become a journalist or a documentary narrator! I f*cken love your voice and the passionate affection you master to bring when talking and explaining a subject in such a nyanced way! Ps. also loved xbox but recently lost all motivation and it's been going on for a while now :(
At the end of the day it's just greed that causes all of this. What happens when your forced to chase unsustainable profit growth to please investors.
I'm more surprised that red fall didn't go under soon
I think the problems are Satya Nadella and Matt Booty. Anyone remember when Microsofts Gaming Division made “More money than their Windows and Office division.”
God this makes my blood boil. It honestly feels like these executives don't actually know how to make money. They just see something done profitably once and then attempt to ape it without any understanding. I wish they'd take a god dam leadership/project management course... but instead they're too busy promoting bootlickers to the top to the point that the people making decisions have bought into the stories and myths that were supposed to be only for the rest of us to believe. They honestly feel... just detatched from reality.
This makes me really sad, I’ve been with Xbox since the beginning
Me too. I was 3 when Xbox OG and Halo: CE came out, but I started then and there, and never owned a Playstation. God this is depressing.
Xbox Series L amirite 😂😭😭
I remember when my dad bought our first original Xbox. If he was alive today he’d be just as disappointed as me.
Seeing this as an xbox main is infuriating, so much talent just tossed aside.
I expect a lot of negative backlash from this, might even encourage a lot of people to quit xbox and go to PS (SONY did make an awful choice which they thankfully reverted on in relation to the Helldivers 2 incident regarding PS+ Account link requirements which is bad for HD2 because of how big its current playerbase is, and if that decision didn't get reverted the HD2 player base would have been cut in half)
What sort of madness has befallen XBOX today?
360/ PS3 years were peak gaming awesomeness. Gaming hasn't been as depressing as of now.
Mass Effect, I'm looking at you, Elder Scroll 6, I'm looking at you, Halo 4 (because we all know that Halo4 and up is a collective fever dream) I'm looking at you... And you... Activision Blizzard
Anyways... Until the next one :)
Halo 4 honestly wasn’t that bad…story wise. Multiplayer tho, yeah, it was a COD clone
@@D00dmannah even story wise it was bad. Levels not well designed and boring to get through. Story and antagonists all ridiculous overkill or very flat, generic and cliche. Only good thing was the cortana chief relationship
@@protector_of_the_realms and Spartan Oops is a trainwreck if you try playing it Solo
@@D00dman naaa, Halo 4 story was shit.
what was the problem with mass effect? im guessing andromeda? 1,2,3 were all really good imo
Honestly, having an objective standpoint, the studios mentioned have only put out financial failures (yes, they were fun but they made no money)
I was a huge fan of evil within and it sucks to know they may not be making more, but logically speaking this makes sense
"It's hard to watch something you love destroy itself, to see it fall apart. Disaster always feels so distant, detached, someone else's struggle in some far away place; it's not until it's in our city, at our doors, that we realize how fragile we are. All of us. All of this."
This is... oh god... oh no...
BACK TO THE 360, BOYS
Xenia FTW
360 will always be superior
Never left the 360 🔥
I still use mine!!
@@spirito9827That as well lmao.
thank you for making this btw. as a game dev, it means a lot.
*It’s getting to a point where video game developers need to unionize. Companies like Microsoft will just continue to abuse and overwork employees, while also constantly inserting their influence into developments purely for the intent of greed. There also needs to be more workplace oversight into the toxic practices taking place in these companies.*
My big worry in gaming is the Jurassic Park Survival game , the studio already had some behind the scenes change over and i prey it does not get cancelled as its a game fans have been asking for for years now !!
As a long time video game enthusiasts. Im am saddened by Sony and Xbox decisions as of late.
i mean at least sony did the right thing after the community got up in arms and is ACTUALLY listening to a very good degree....
Phil Spencer really needs to put his foot down he’s even acknowledged the pipeline for Xbox is horrible yet hasn’t done anything to help it at least that’s been shown.
I think that's because if he does do something, he risks losing his job. Seriously; corporate executives are so cutthroat and careless nowadays that they will throw you out the goddamn window for simply stating the obvious. If Phil Spencer wants to stay on the team, what choice does he have?
so does this mean that major titled games are in trouble of being shut down? for example cod, fallout, the elder scrolls, etc.?
Best way to save themselves right now is go for broke double down on your core studios to make the games players dream about and maybe salvage a playerbase before the ship is abondoned
I'm just sitting here waiting for them to shut down Activision if Black Ops 5 flops.
You mean 6? Cold War was Black Ops 5.
@@QuarrelsomeLocalOaf yes black ops 6 your correct
That would be a blessing. I'm ready for CoD to go, tons of shit ass games, it hasn't been good for a good few years.
@@RykSchThe last Cod game I enjoyed was BO3 I stopped playing afterward's anything before BO3 is a go to in my opinion. Now a day's I agree I wanna see the franchise/Activision go under.
"nothing built lasts forever"-minecraft story mode
That 360 console intro interruption hurt my head
I had a ton of active friends on Xbox 360. We played together constantly. The sense of community I had there was unmatched. I've met a lot of people who said they had the same experience. I wonder why that is.