*[TIMECODE]* 0:00 - Narrative Short (Example) 1:29 - Production Introduction / Features 3:09 - Ext. Battery Grip 4:02 - Std. Bowens Adapter *[[TEST]]* 5:00 - Light Output Test 5:38 - Forza 60 vs Sokani x60 Output Test 6:02 - Forza vs Sokani Color Test 6:42 - Forza vs Sokani Fan Noise Test 7:09 - Battery Life Test 7:24 - Forza as a keylight Test 8:22 - Narrative Short Explained *[[BOTTOM LINE]]* 9:33 - Should you get it? (Experience and Budget level) 11:44 - Is 60watt enough? 16:39 - Should you get the proprietary modifiers? *[AFFILIATE LINKS]* Use of my affiliate links gives me a little commission at no cost to you, this directly helps support this channel so I can continue making fun videos for you! Thank you so much! *Note* Amazon and Adorama are currently restocking (May 18th) Nanlite Forza 60 Full Kit: US: amzn.to/2Z9onBD CAN: amzn.to/2Y59dfR Nanlite Forza 60: US: adorama.rfvk.net/eLYyj UK: amzn.to/2N6Gi4t CAN: amzn.to/3e4OGgN Nanlite Forza 60 Battery Grip: US: amzn.to/2N22WLG adorama.rfvk.net/PM7JQ UK: amzn.to/3fsqV2w Nanlite Forza 60 Bowens adapter: coming soon 22” Softbox (Proprietary): US: amzn.to/3d4Rqtp adorama.rfvk.net/zoYZ6 CAN: amzn.to/30RDAYG *[FAQ]*
Hey hey Phúc Mập Vlog! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! You're most welcome! Whenever tossed up on if getting a certain piece if gear is right for you, always check out what your available budget is and then listed out what the equipment solves for your specific filming situations. I actually go through my 5 step process of buying gear here: czcams.com/video/3zO9axytfK8/video.html These steps always help me determine if a certain gear is right for me. A lot of times I end up saying "It's nice, but I don't need it right this moment, so I will keep it on the back burner until it becomes a needed item." Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey George! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'm so glad this video was helpful! I will continue do my best with my reviews and content! I did a 60w COB led comparison if you wanted to see how it performed with the others I've had for review: czcams.com/video/3drVUZ5LWPI/video.html Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey again Go Polaris! Thank you so much, glad this video was helpful! These 60w lights can definitely hold their own in a controlled lighting situation! If thats all someone did was corporate interviews and they always got a dark room to play with, roaming in with a few 60's and modifiers would be a nice small versatile setup! Hope all is well my friend!
It's great that you included the Waveform Monitor and Vectorscope as well. Every light review should have this. Subscribed just for this. Plus, battery life on different settings. Awesome review!
Hey hey OrigMedia! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'm so glad you enjoyed this review and that the information was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my reviews and content! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I was waiting for you to do a review of the forza 60 since no one talks about. Glad to hear you thoughts thank you. The new sokani is definitely more appealing, but going to stick to my $50 youngnuo yn300 for now, since it works.
Hey hey again Love First! Definitely, when it comes down to it a light is a light in its prime function. How you use it and work around it is the skill that I want to get into more as I slowly develop my lighting tutorial series. My youtube light setup is still just a cheap light ball socket softbox with some decent LED bulbs inside. No need to switch it up anytime soon, it's good enough!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Yeah exactly, just using my $50 led light and some chea $10 lights to light my scenes and interviews. It works perfectly fine for now, I am fine with it.
Hey hey Felix! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'm so glad you enjoyed this review! I will continue to do my best with my reviews and content! I'm not sure if you saw a followup video where I compared this along with the popular Godox sl60w and Sokani x60 side by side. That video can be found here: czcams.com/video/3drVUZ5LWPI/video.html Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Skwealer! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful and that is quite the deal! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Thanks for the thoughtful assessment. I’m enamored by the light because of its design, price and size, and your questions towards the end helped me make a decision about whether to get it or not.
Hey hey again Helium Cine! Thanks for checking out another video! You're most welcome! It's definitely interesting that we are seeing more 60w COB LED lights coming into market and I think they will provide a very nice use-case for filmmakers that need a single source light but do not require the power of the 120w variants! Thanks again for stopping by and stay safe and healthy my friend!
Nice review. My guess is to get the proprietary fresnel, and the adapter for everything else, avoiding any optical incompatibility with a larger fresnel.
Hey hey 4CardsMan! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Hmm thats a good point, I didn't think about the incompatibility of other fresnel attachments from other brands. I do wonder though since COB LED's more or less throw light pretty wide before entering into the fresnel optics. I wonder if it would make that much of a difference. I wish I had the aputure fresnel to test this theory since they made theirs specific to their COB line. I know there are cheaper ones by third part brands, but they are definitely smaller than the aputure optics so I'm not sure if they will create the same desired effect. Great point though! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Ben! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! That's definitely a good way to go to get the best of both worlds at a decent budget. I'm not sure if you saw my 60w LED showdown, but I compared this Nanlite against the Sokani V2 and Godox SL60. The Sokani definitely has the least overall color reproduction, but if its you're principle light, a custom WB will compensate for it. That video can be found here: czcams.com/video/3drVUZ5LWPI/video.html Hope this further helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Thank you for the video and for the videos you make, do you think I can connect the "Nanlite Forza 60 Battery Grip" to my Sokani X60? thanks, sorry for my English I am Italian... :)
Ciao Michaelangelo! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! You're most welcome! Yes, you can connect the Nanlite Battery Grip to the Sokani X60. I show it in this video: czcams.com/video/3drVUZ5LWPI/video.html Nessun problema, amico mio. Ho capito perfettamente il tuo inglese! Grazie ancora per essere passato! Stai al sicuro, in salute e ci vediamo nel prossimo!
I would highly recommend the Forza 60 specific Fresnel and light bank. The fresnel may only fit the 60, but since the output of the 60 via the Fresnel is several stops brighter than the 200/300 in a larger light bank, most users would have the perfect ratio. I use my 200 in a bank at full power and add my 60 w/ fresnel as a highlight at 20 to 30%. In addition, my Forza 60 light bank came with both the proprietary "Mini" Bowens ring for the 60 and a standard Bowens ring for any Bowens mount unit, you can quickly swap the rings in the base of softbox. [Why isn't Nanlite marketing the Crap out of that?] This may be a new thing, did anyone else get both speedings with soft box?. The other excellent reason is that these items are a very good value, The fresnel is $99 and the bank dropped from $179 to $119.
Hey hey again fotopdo! Thanks for sharing your use with your Forza set! I'm not sure about the mini and standard bowens ring with the 60 light bank, that could have been an update later on. I know I talked to their marketing team about what the engineers needed to consider for their line up. I'm not sure if any of my critiques got to them. I really do like their family of lights, I just hope they find a way to make sure they all can work together more seamlessly than the first versions that I was testing.
Hey hey Ewan! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! That definitely quite a difference in light output needs! I agree that as you gain more experience with your style and gear you have more unique ways to deal with certain film situations that do not require the craziest of gear. I think its part of the growing process where you become more efficient. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Great review! Oh good! Their bowens adapter is finally coming out! I was wondering if this was actually going to happen. When I asked Nanlite a few months ago the were very coy about it. So, I wonder how these two lights stack against the new Intelly Tech x100.
Hey hey again Steven! The Bowens adapter definitely helps justify the positioning of the Forza 60 in their lineup, part of me wishes they just went with the standard bowens but I think the reason is for the Forza 60 to be its own stand alone kit of lights. If I had full control of a lighting area, you can easily deploy 3+ forza 60s and create some great looks (with or without the fan). Their size is so small too, really fun to use. As for the Intelly Tech LC x100, they put out some lux measurements and actually measured at 2m away! Their lux readings looks like, at any given temperature and full 70 degree flood, will be at around 400 more lux than the Forza and X60, albeit at a hefty price point.
Just discovered your channel, really great stuff! I know you've already somewhat addressed this question for I apologize for the redundancy, but as a beginner filmmaker just starting to build a light kit, would you say the Sokani x60 v2 is the best buy in its class? Thanks so much!
Hey hey Cameryn! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! I'm not sure if you saw this video I did a couple weeks ago, but I add in another well known competitor in the 60w category to give an idea of how these three current options compete against each other at their different price points. I also conclude where I see each kit fitting to whom. The video can be found here: czcams.com/video/3drVUZ5LWPI/video.html Hope this helps, let me know if you still have a question in that video incase I don't see it here!. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Perfect video because it had a lot of questions and answers. My problem is : should I get 2x forza 60 with softboxes or one forza 60 and fs-150 with softboxes?? I dont have any light. My budget is around 800 and I shoot small ads for restaurants , products and maybe some weddings. Thank you for your help
Hey hey Thoe! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! I would definitely go a 60 and fs150 or just two FS150 so that you have maximum control and the most power for your budget. I didn't realize the FS150 price was so much cheaper than the forza 60. Probably because of the LED chip set they are doing instead of the tradition COB of the forza 60. Going through a softbox should be fine vs a bare LED that may or may not case multi-shadow. For your budget I would say get the most power so that you can always be able to adjust your needs. Having one at half power and then realizing you may need more is not where I want to be, especially given the price difference. If battery is a concern, I feel based on your needs you're always near power. And if not, I would just purchase a solar camping generator with a Pure-Sine wave and call it a day. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker thank you for your time. I will buy the 60 and fs150 with softboxs. Also I am thinking of buying the adapter and the Fresnel Bowens mount so I can use it for both lights. Do you know if it is gonna work on Forza 60?
very good videos man !! I still hesitate between buying this light or the Sokani x60 V2. As for the size and weight (I'm interested in having a light equipment), light output, construction materials, which one do you think is better? Lastly, do you know if the forza 60 battery grip works with the sokani x60 light? Thanks
Hey hey Ruben! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Both of these options are quite similar in terms of light performance as you can see in the comparison portion. In terms of build quality and size, they are similar with the Forza being lighter feeling. Forza's build quality is also much better overall while Sokani uses cheaper parts in its powerbrick. The Sokani X60 v2 is definitely a cheaper version that has its own pros and cons depending on what is more important for you (aka light quality accuracy, construction, warranty, deployability etc) I still go by price to performance ratio. If you are a beginning filmmaker on a budget and developing your overall kit, I would say the Sokani x60 v2 will fit the bill. If you are a working professional and are starting to mature your lighting kit, I would go towards the Nanlite Forza 60. While I have not personally tried the Nanlite Forza 60 battery grip on the Sokani just yet, there has been confirmation from some users that it does work. And technically it should because both lights do require the same voltage and amps from their powerbricks. So theres no reason it wouldn't. However I always think cautiously and don't want to fry anything, I'm waiting on my watt-meter to see what the powerbricks are pulling into the lights. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Thanks for the in-depth review! One question how heavier is the sokani compared to the forza? I'm reading the sokani is 1.8kg but it does not look that heavy in the videos.
Hey hey Mahesh! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The Sokani is made of all solid and thicker metal where as the Nanlite is more hollow feeling. I don't know the exact weight as my scales can't detect it. But they are both ultra light for a 60w COB. I really wouldn't worry about a light stand not being able to handle it. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I´m using the sokani v2 with nanlite battery grim and 2 durapro (chinese npf batterys 5200mAh) and the light stay on less than 10 minutes. Very strange this.
Hey hey Humberto! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Hmm, my only guess is that the durapro's are not able to sustain the power draw even with both batteries working together. Or the Sokani is reaching some sort of heat that causes it to shut down. I don't remember if the Sokani has a overheating safety feature, it may because it has a temperature readout. Have you tried other batteries? Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hi TLDR Filmmaker. I’m wanna ask about the BH-FZ60V the V mount grip for Nanlite 60. Can they also attach on the light stand if I don’t want to hand hold it ? I can’t find any information please help
Hey hey Dang Le! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Yes, if you look at the pictures of that specific handle there is an opening with a screw lock right under where you place the Forza light. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Well i have forza 60.... for close up thats perfect... what you already say... i shooting a music video and i am a virgin in lighting but i though 60 and a pavo tube 6c 2 to take off that works very nicely for me... in the next vid then. but i am also checking a bigger light source like the godox vl150 or 300.... instead of the forza 300. Vl150 489 euro vl300 799. Forza 300 1099 euro. But there os 25 procent discount now. So its almost the same price. For now forza 60 and 2 tube and aputure f7 will do the trick. Its small and i can shoot every place easily. Nice review btw.
Hey hey Dutch4Motinon Film Works! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Definitely, the Forza 60 did a lot better for my needs than I thought even with the Fan off! The Pavo tubes they make look really interesting and it seems that Nanlite has almost everything I would need from one company for lighting a film scene. Looking forward to see what else Nanlite creates for the filmmaking market! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker i almost check all your video's ( keep it up)... you give good content en perspective for filmer on a budget. To bad i was a bit to early with buying rode wireless go and a bit lather you posted the new dual band transmitter. Ahhhh well... btw do you also post your ohw work like fighting stuff... i only see product info
I sincerely appreciate your viewership! I will be posting my works soon with lots of educational content along side of it. It's taking awhile to produce, but will finish it eventually :)
Hey man. Nice review. I appreciate the comparison with the sokani x60. Do you have an idea if the forza 60 battery grip works with the sokani x60 light?
Hey hey Dorivaldo! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! I personally would say, to be on the safe side, to get a 150w class of light to make sure you have enough light to shoot through a large layer of diffusion before it lights yourself up. A 60w I feel is not enough depending on your setup. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey pol divina! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Correct! I only really have 970's for its capacity so that I don't have to keep swapping out smaller NPF's. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I am in a bind at the moment. I am a one man band and I am considering buying either this light or the aputure 120d? What would be your recommendation for Cinema shots? Other videos that I saw of the Forza 60 seem like it puts out a bit harsher light than the aputure. Any help would really be appreciated since I am going to buy one of the two within the next week's to come. Thanks for the great video!
Hey hey Adam! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! I actually just made a video yesterday about the 60w class of LED's and I dive into some details in where I believe they fit into a persons kit depending on a few variables. As far as what I recommend. I get asked this quite a bit and I will eventually put a definitive video that explains why this is not an answer anyone can really make for someone. Long story short, it really depends on what you're filming and your understanding of lighting and how it plays with your camera, the last bit of the equation is your own personal taste of how you like to shoot things. Some like shallow depth of field, some set dress and want deeper depth of field. If you are a one man band looking to have a light to handle most situations. Then a 120d is your better bet because its better to have more light than not enough depending on your filming situation. The 60w class is for filmmakers that have 100% complete control of the lighting in their filming situation and have enough light modifiers to get the scene to where they want it to be. Which brings me to the point there you said you saw that the Forza 60w was harsher than a 120d in the examples you have seen. This is not because the Forza is inherently a harsher light than a 120d. Their COB LED is about the same size. The appearance or harsh light depends on how far or close is the light to the subject, (The further away it is, the harsher it looks). It also depends if the filmmaker tried to diffuse it and create a larger illuminated source to soften the light from looking so harsh. But even if they do diffuse it and place it really far away from the actor, it will still look somewhat harsh. Its really hard to try and convey these principles through a comment. But hopefully this kind of gives you an idea that its not about the lighting and powerful it is, thats only part of the equation. The next step is to understand how to place and manipulate that power to get what you want. I would definitely look at some lighting videos and see how and were they place the light and diffusion, and hopefully they share their camera settings. This will give you an idea of how powerful of a light you need for your style of filmmaking. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thanks so much for the info! I was also wondering about Tungsten vs. Daylight when it comes to these lights. The reason I ask is because I noticed that the 120T version of the aputure is cheaper in price than the 120D version. What's your opinion as far as 3200 vs 5600? Thanks again
You're most welcome! As far as my initial research back when the 120T and 120D were coming to market. The 120T technically has the most color accuracy than the 120D. However these days more people are working with daylight color temps than they are with tungsten temps. So lets say you got the 120T but you are filming a scene where you wanted the window light to come in. If you light you subject with the 120T and white balance to tungsten, the room will look super blue. Your subject will look normal, but the rest will be blue. If you lit the subject with a 120D instead and white balanced for daylight, the subject and the rest of the room will look normal. Of course vice versa, if you are lighting a night scene in the house and you have tungsten bulbs in light fixtures and you are lighting your subject with the 120D and white balance for it. The tungsten bulb will give a more orange appearance than normal. Now depending on your type of films and tastes, these can be a powerful color contrast to use. I do this all the time where I purposely light my actor with the opposite color-temp around them to get a drastic counter color shift. But this is because I mainly film action oriented movies, if I was filming a romantic comedy I would not deploy this method. Kind goes back full circle to my first reply, theres a lot that goes into choosing and using your lights, it all just depends on what you're going for and your knowledge of how to manipulate the light and camera settings. Because someone may just say "why not use a tungsten gel instead" for the blueish room example. The reason I wouldn't necessarily do this is because I lose a lot of light output when I put a gel in front of it, causing me the potential that I won't be able to get enough light on my subject. Hope this helps and makes sense!
Hey man! Thanks for the review. It seems the connection of the Forza is the same as the Sokani, am i right? If so, is there any way you can try the battery grip of the Forza on the Sokani? My Sokani is on its way, but I am already looking a way to battery powered it. Cheers
Hey hey camilocarvallo! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The connection is the same, but for whatever reason the the Sokani rated itself at 80w so I am waiting on a Wattage meter to double check whats going on before I plug it in and test. I don't want to fry anything or overload the battery. Stay tuned! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker sokani has their own version of the battery grip on amazon, it seems to be an exact copy from the looks of it, just with different branding
Hey hey Ville! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! According to Nanlite, yes, although I really wish they would have put rosette locks on their adapter in general to negate any of these problems. I have no personally tried this as I don't have a 37" parabolic. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Going Further! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Yes, you can use both at the same time. The Adapter itself has its own light stand mounting point, the grip has its own mounting point, and the light itself has its own mounting point. You can mount the grip and light to whatever port works best for your setup. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Stephan! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Yes you can, for my setup during the short. I purposely used some paracord to hang it on the Light's yoke to act as a counter weight as I putting a much larger softbox on the Bowens adapter than what it was rated for. For a light stand setup I'll probably continue just using the paracord and hanging it on the light stand tension knobs. I like that better in general when working with lights. But if I go handheld with the light, I can attach to either the bowens light stand socket or the lights own socket, whichever gives me the most stability for the setup. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
i have dobt between the sokani V2 and the forza 60 i like the forza fresnell and the capability of shut the sound but does the Forza 60 fresnel worth it?
Hey hey again Felipe! As I explained towards the bottom line of the video, because of the pricing of the Forza 60 and its specifically proprietary mount for their fresnel and other softboxes with a weaker yoke. I can only see it being worth it if the filmmakers is planning to invest in all Nanlite Principle lights for their kit. For me I cannot justify spending that much money for a 60w light where its accessories are not usable for any other lights, to me thats a devastating design mistake. I'm hoping Godox will release an updated battery operated version of their popular SL60 lineup. The color is quite good and comparable to the Forza60 and you can use all standard bowens modifiers with it.
Hey hey Quint! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Yes you can, I show it in this video here: czcams.com/video/3drVUZ5LWPI/video.html Sokani has already recently released their own battery plate (dual npf) that clips onto the light stand to make it a little more easy to rig up. geni.us/QJfX (Amazon Affiliate link) Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thankyou! I bought the sokani x60 RGB. I think that that light will be the best budget bi color led light on the market. You should check out that light too. Thanks for the respons!! Have a nice day
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0:00 - Narrative Short (Example)
1:29 - Production Introduction / Features
3:09 - Ext. Battery Grip
4:02 - Std. Bowens Adapter
*[[TEST]]*
5:00 - Light Output Test
5:38 - Forza 60 vs Sokani x60 Output Test
6:02 - Forza vs Sokani Color Test
6:42 - Forza vs Sokani Fan Noise Test
7:09 - Battery Life Test
7:24 - Forza as a keylight Test
8:22 - Narrative Short Explained
*[[BOTTOM LINE]]*
9:33 - Should you get it? (Experience and Budget level)
11:44 - Is 60watt enough?
16:39 - Should you get the proprietary modifiers?
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*[FAQ]*
Can you test if the batterygrip works with the sokani light? Thank you.
I’m tossed up about this getting the light at the moment. Thanks for the detailed review!
Hey hey Phúc Mập Vlog!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
You're most welcome! Whenever tossed up on if getting a certain piece if gear is right for you, always check out what your available budget is and then listed out what the equipment solves for your specific filming situations. I actually go through my 5 step process of buying gear here: czcams.com/video/3zO9axytfK8/video.html
These steps always help me determine if a certain gear is right for me. A lot of times I end up saying "It's nice, but I don't need it right this moment, so I will keep it on the back burner until it becomes a needed item."
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Great in-depth review, thanks!
Hey hey George!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
I'm so glad this video was helpful! I will continue do my best with my reviews and content!
I did a 60w COB led comparison if you wanted to see how it performed with the others I've had for review: czcams.com/video/3drVUZ5LWPI/video.html
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Perfect timing, my friend. Well done, as always.
Hey hey again Go Polaris!
Thank you so much, glad this video was helpful! These 60w lights can definitely hold their own in a controlled lighting situation! If thats all someone did was corporate interviews and they always got a dark room to play with, roaming in with a few 60's and modifiers would be a nice small versatile setup! Hope all is well my friend!
It's great that you included the Waveform Monitor and Vectorscope as well. Every light review should have this. Subscribed just for this. Plus, battery life on different settings. Awesome review!
Hey hey OrigMedia!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
I'm so glad you enjoyed this review and that the information was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my reviews and content!
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I was waiting for you to do a review of the forza 60 since no one talks about. Glad to hear you thoughts thank you. The new sokani is definitely more appealing, but going to stick to my $50 youngnuo yn300 for now, since it works.
Agree.. Me too.. Sometimes its amazing these affordable alternatives are able to perform, though not as good but enough
Hey hey again Love First!
Definitely, when it comes down to it a light is a light in its prime function. How you use it and work around it is the skill that I want to get into more as I slowly develop my lighting tutorial series. My youtube light setup is still just a cheap light ball socket softbox with some decent LED bulbs inside. No need to switch it up anytime soon, it's good enough!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Yeah exactly, just using my $50 led light and some chea $10 lights to light my scenes and interviews. It works perfectly fine for now, I am fine with it.
Very good in depth review. Love when you shared your perspective on a overall production set. Truly informative review! love it
Hey hey Felix!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
I'm so glad you enjoyed this review! I will continue to do my best with my reviews and content! I'm not sure if you saw a followup video where I compared this along with the popular Godox sl60w and Sokani x60 side by side. That video can be found here: czcams.com/video/3drVUZ5LWPI/video.html
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Would love to ask for Sony NPF batteries suggestion. Which type lasts longer? Or what is your capacity?
Hey I really appreciate this video. I picked up the sokani with the Nanlite battery grip which is going for only $20 on Amazon right now
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So glad this video was helpful and that is quite the deal! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews!
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Thanks for the thoughtful assessment. I’m enamored by the light because of its design, price and size, and your questions towards the end helped me make a decision about whether to get it or not.
Hey hey again Helium Cine!
Thanks for checking out another video!
You're most welcome! It's definitely interesting that we are seeing more 60w COB LED lights coming into market and I think they will provide a very nice use-case for filmmakers that need a single source light but do not require the power of the 120w variants!
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Nice review. My guess is to get the proprietary fresnel, and the adapter for everything else, avoiding any optical incompatibility with a larger fresnel.
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Hmm thats a good point, I didn't think about the incompatibility of other fresnel attachments from other brands. I do wonder though since COB LED's more or less throw light pretty wide before entering into the fresnel optics. I wonder if it would make that much of a difference. I wish I had the aputure fresnel to test this theory since they made theirs specific to their COB line. I know there are cheaper ones by third part brands, but they are definitely smaller than the aputure optics so I'm not sure if they will create the same desired effect. Great point though!
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Thanks for this. Sokani x60 v2 + nanlite battery pack seems to be a smarter and budget friendly buy for me.
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That's definitely a good way to go to get the best of both worlds at a decent budget. I'm not sure if you saw my 60w LED showdown, but I compared this Nanlite against the Sokani V2 and Godox SL60. The Sokani definitely has the least overall color reproduction, but if its you're principle light, a custom WB will compensate for it. That video can be found here: czcams.com/video/3drVUZ5LWPI/video.html
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TLDR yes i watched that too. Thank you
Thank you for the video and for the videos you make, do you think I can connect the "Nanlite Forza 60 Battery Grip" to my Sokani X60? thanks, sorry for my English I am Italian... :)
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You're most welcome! Yes, you can connect the Nanlite Battery Grip to the Sokani X60. I show it in this video: czcams.com/video/3drVUZ5LWPI/video.html
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I would highly recommend the Forza 60 specific Fresnel and light bank. The fresnel may only fit the 60, but since the output of the 60 via the Fresnel is several stops brighter than the 200/300 in a larger light bank, most users would have the perfect ratio. I use my 200 in a bank at full power and add my 60 w/ fresnel as a highlight at 20 to 30%. In addition, my Forza 60 light bank came with both the proprietary "Mini" Bowens ring for the 60 and a standard Bowens ring for any Bowens mount unit, you can quickly swap the rings in the base of softbox. [Why isn't Nanlite marketing the Crap out of that?] This may be a new thing, did anyone else get both speedings with soft box?. The other excellent reason is that these items are a very good value, The fresnel is $99 and the bank dropped from $179 to $119.
Hey hey again fotopdo!
Thanks for sharing your use with your Forza set! I'm not sure about the mini and standard bowens ring with the 60 light bank, that could have been an update later on. I know I talked to their marketing team about what the engineers needed to consider for their line up. I'm not sure if any of my critiques got to them. I really do like their family of lights, I just hope they find a way to make sure they all can work together more seamlessly than the first versions that I was testing.
The funny thing is that the more experience I get, my gear keeps on getting smaller and smaller. I went from a forza 300 to a 60.
Hey hey Ewan!
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That definitely quite a difference in light output needs! I agree that as you gain more experience with your style and gear you have more unique ways to deal with certain film situations that do not require the craziest of gear. I think its part of the growing process where you become more efficient.
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Great review! Oh good! Their bowens adapter is finally coming out! I was wondering if this was actually going to happen. When I asked Nanlite a few months ago the were very coy about it. So, I wonder how these two lights stack against the new Intelly Tech x100.
Hey hey again Steven!
The Bowens adapter definitely helps justify the positioning of the Forza 60 in their lineup, part of me wishes they just went with the standard bowens but I think the reason is for the Forza 60 to be its own stand alone kit of lights. If I had full control of a lighting area, you can easily deploy 3+ forza 60s and create some great looks (with or without the fan). Their size is so small too, really fun to use. As for the Intelly Tech LC x100, they put out some lux measurements and actually measured at 2m away! Their lux readings looks like, at any given temperature and full 70 degree flood, will be at around 400 more lux than the Forza and X60, albeit at a hefty price point.
Just discovered your channel, really great stuff! I know you've already somewhat addressed this question for I apologize for the redundancy, but as a beginner filmmaker just starting to build a light kit, would you say the Sokani x60 v2 is the best buy in its class? Thanks so much!
Hey hey Cameryn!
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I'm not sure if you saw this video I did a couple weeks ago, but I add in another well known competitor in the 60w category to give an idea of how these three current options compete against each other at their different price points. I also conclude where I see each kit fitting to whom. The video can be found here: czcams.com/video/3drVUZ5LWPI/video.html
Hope this helps, let me know if you still have a question in that video incase I don't see it here!. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Perfect video because it had a lot of questions and answers. My problem is : should I get 2x forza 60 with softboxes or one forza 60 and fs-150 with softboxes?? I dont have any light. My budget is around 800 and I shoot small ads for restaurants , products and maybe some weddings. Thank you for your help
Hey hey Thoe!
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I would definitely go a 60 and fs150 or just two FS150 so that you have maximum control and the most power for your budget. I didn't realize the FS150 price was so much cheaper than the forza 60. Probably because of the LED chip set they are doing instead of the tradition COB of the forza 60. Going through a softbox should be fine vs a bare LED that may or may not case multi-shadow. For your budget I would say get the most power so that you can always be able to adjust your needs.
Having one at half power and then realizing you may need more is not where I want to be, especially given the price difference. If battery is a concern, I feel based on your needs you're always near power. And if not, I would just purchase a solar camping generator with a Pure-Sine wave and call it a day. Hope this helps!
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@@TLDR_filmmaker thank you for your time. I will buy the 60 and fs150 with softboxs. Also I am thinking of buying the adapter and the Fresnel Bowens mount so I can use it for both lights. Do you know if it is gonna work on Forza 60?
very good videos man !!
I still hesitate between buying this light or the Sokani x60 V2. As for the size and weight (I'm interested in having a light equipment), light output, construction materials, which one do you think is better?
Lastly, do you know if the forza 60 battery grip works with the sokani x60 light?
Thanks
Hey hey Ruben!
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Both of these options are quite similar in terms of light performance as you can see in the comparison portion. In terms of build quality and size, they are similar with the Forza being lighter feeling. Forza's build quality is also much better overall while Sokani uses cheaper parts in its powerbrick.
The Sokani X60 v2 is definitely a cheaper version that has its own pros and cons depending on what is more important for you (aka light quality accuracy, construction, warranty, deployability etc) I still go by price to performance ratio. If you are a beginning filmmaker on a budget and developing your overall kit, I would say the Sokani x60 v2 will fit the bill. If you are a working professional and are starting to mature your lighting kit, I would go towards the Nanlite Forza 60.
While I have not personally tried the Nanlite Forza 60 battery grip on the Sokani just yet, there has been confirmation from some users that it does work. And technically it should because both lights do require the same voltage and amps from their powerbricks. So theres no reason it wouldn't. However I always think cautiously and don't want to fry anything, I'm waiting on my watt-meter to see what the powerbricks are pulling into the lights.
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@@TLDR_filmmaker Thank you very much, I will be attentive to your next videos.
Thanks for the in-depth review! One question how heavier is the sokani compared to the forza?
I'm reading the sokani is 1.8kg but it does not look that heavy in the videos.
Hey hey Mahesh!
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The Sokani is made of all solid and thicker metal where as the Nanlite is more hollow feeling. I don't know the exact weight as my scales can't detect it. But they are both ultra light for a 60w COB. I really wouldn't worry about a light stand not being able to handle it.
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I´m using the sokani v2 with nanlite battery grim and 2 durapro (chinese npf batterys 5200mAh) and the light stay on less than 10 minutes. Very strange this.
Hey hey Humberto!
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Hmm, my only guess is that the durapro's are not able to sustain the power draw even with both batteries working together. Or the Sokani is reaching some sort of heat that causes it to shut down. I don't remember if the Sokani has a overheating safety feature, it may because it has a temperature readout. Have you tried other batteries?
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Hi TLDR Filmmaker. I’m wanna ask about the BH-FZ60V the V mount grip for Nanlite 60. Can they also attach on the light stand if I don’t want to hand hold it ? I can’t find any information please help
Hey hey Dang Le!
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Yes, if you look at the pictures of that specific handle there is an opening with a screw lock right under where you place the Forza light.
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Well i have forza 60.... for close up thats perfect... what you already say... i shooting a music video and i am a virgin in lighting but i though 60 and a pavo tube 6c 2 to take off that works very nicely for me... in the next vid then. but i am also checking a bigger light source like the godox vl150 or 300.... instead of the forza 300. Vl150 489 euro vl300 799. Forza 300 1099 euro. But there os 25 procent discount now. So its almost the same price. For now forza 60 and 2 tube and aputure f7 will do the trick. Its small and i can shoot every place easily. Nice review btw.
Hey hey Dutch4Motinon Film Works!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
Definitely, the Forza 60 did a lot better for my needs than I thought even with the Fan off!
The Pavo tubes they make look really interesting and it seems that Nanlite has almost everything I would need from one company for lighting a film scene. Looking forward to see what else Nanlite creates for the filmmaking market!
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@@TLDR_filmmaker i almost check all your video's ( keep it up)... you give good content en perspective for filmer on a budget. To bad i was a bit to early with buying rode wireless go and a bit lather you posted the new dual band transmitter. Ahhhh well... btw do you also post your ohw work like fighting stuff... i only see product info
I sincerely appreciate your viewership! I will be posting my works soon with lots of educational content along side of it. It's taking awhile to produce, but will finish it eventually :)
Hey man. Nice review. I appreciate the comparison with the sokani x60. Do you have an idea if the forza 60 battery grip works with the sokani x60 light?
Hey hey again Ifionu!
I am currently testing that out as well as another battery solutions. Stay tuned!
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who much light is enough for a keylight using at a kitchen window to give that sun light effect
Hey hey Dorivaldo!
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I personally would say, to be on the safe side, to get a 150w class of light to make sure you have enough light to shoot through a large layer of diffusion before it lights yourself up. A 60w I feel is not enough depending on your setup.
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Hello, are you using 2 npf-970. Thanks!
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Correct! I only really have 970's for its capacity so that I don't have to keep swapping out smaller NPF's.
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I am in a bind at the moment. I am a one man band and I am considering buying either this light or the aputure 120d? What would be your recommendation for Cinema shots? Other videos that I saw of the Forza 60 seem like it puts out a bit harsher light than the aputure. Any help would really be appreciated since I am going to buy one of the two within the next week's to come. Thanks for the great video!
Hey hey Adam!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
I actually just made a video yesterday about the 60w class of LED's and I dive into some details in where I believe they fit into a persons kit depending on a few variables.
As far as what I recommend. I get asked this quite a bit and I will eventually put a definitive video that explains why this is not an answer anyone can really make for someone. Long story short, it really depends on what you're filming and your understanding of lighting and how it plays with your camera, the last bit of the equation is your own personal taste of how you like to shoot things. Some like shallow depth of field, some set dress and want deeper depth of field. If you are a one man band looking to have a light to handle most situations. Then a 120d is your better bet because its better to have more light than not enough depending on your filming situation. The 60w class is for filmmakers that have 100% complete control of the lighting in their filming situation and have enough light modifiers to get the scene to where they want it to be.
Which brings me to the point there you said you saw that the Forza 60w was harsher than a 120d in the examples you have seen. This is not because the Forza is inherently a harsher light than a 120d. Their COB LED is about the same size. The appearance or harsh light depends on how far or close is the light to the subject, (The further away it is, the harsher it looks). It also depends if the filmmaker tried to diffuse it and create a larger illuminated source to soften the light from looking so harsh. But even if they do diffuse it and place it really far away from the actor, it will still look somewhat harsh.
Its really hard to try and convey these principles through a comment. But hopefully this kind of gives you an idea that its not about the lighting and powerful it is, thats only part of the equation. The next step is to understand how to place and manipulate that power to get what you want. I would definitely look at some lighting videos and see how and were they place the light and diffusion, and hopefully they share their camera settings. This will give you an idea of how powerful of a light you need for your style of filmmaking.
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@@TLDR_filmmaker Thanks so much for the info! I was also wondering about Tungsten vs. Daylight when it comes to these lights. The reason I ask is because I noticed that the 120T version of the aputure is cheaper in price than the 120D version. What's your opinion as far as 3200 vs 5600? Thanks again
You're most welcome! As far as my initial research back when the 120T and 120D were coming to market. The 120T technically has the most color accuracy than the 120D. However these days more people are working with daylight color temps than they are with tungsten temps. So lets say you got the 120T but you are filming a scene where you wanted the window light to come in. If you light you subject with the 120T and white balance to tungsten, the room will look super blue. Your subject will look normal, but the rest will be blue. If you lit the subject with a 120D instead and white balanced for daylight, the subject and the rest of the room will look normal. Of course vice versa, if you are lighting a night scene in the house and you have tungsten bulbs in light fixtures and you are lighting your subject with the 120D and white balance for it. The tungsten bulb will give a more orange appearance than normal.
Now depending on your type of films and tastes, these can be a powerful color contrast to use. I do this all the time where I purposely light my actor with the opposite color-temp around them to get a drastic counter color shift. But this is because I mainly film action oriented movies, if I was filming a romantic comedy I would not deploy this method.
Kind goes back full circle to my first reply, theres a lot that goes into choosing and using your lights, it all just depends on what you're going for and your knowledge of how to manipulate the light and camera settings. Because someone may just say "why not use a tungsten gel instead" for the blueish room example. The reason I wouldn't necessarily do this is because I lose a lot of light output when I put a gel in front of it, causing me the potential that I won't be able to get enough light on my subject.
Hope this helps and makes sense!
Hey man! Thanks for the review. It seems the connection of the Forza is the same as the Sokani, am i right? If so, is there any way you can try the battery grip of the Forza on the Sokani? My Sokani is on its way, but I am already looking a way to battery powered it. Cheers
Hey hey camilocarvallo!
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The connection is the same, but for whatever reason the the Sokani rated itself at 80w so I am waiting on a Wattage meter to double check whats going on before I plug it in and test. I don't want to fry anything or overload the battery. Stay tuned!
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@@TLDR_filmmaker sokani has their own version of the battery grip on amazon, it seems to be an exact copy from the looks of it, just with different branding
@@JimmyBlanco can you pass the link please
@@Mauricio-gp5mk can't seem to find it anymore but this one works for the sokani as well
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Thanks for this review. So forza 60 can handle 37” softbox like nanlite parabolic 90 if you mount the bowens adapter?
Hey hey Ville!
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According to Nanlite, yes, although I really wish they would have put rosette locks on their adapter in general to negate any of these problems. I have no personally tried this as I don't have a 37" parabolic.
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Can you use the batterygrip and Bowen’s mount adapter at same time?
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Yes, you can use both at the same time. The Adapter itself has its own light stand mounting point, the grip has its own mounting point, and the light itself has its own mounting point. You can mount the grip and light to whatever port works best for your setup.
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@@TLDR_filmmaker oh wow this is the perfect lighting solution for my uses! Thanks for the answer!
You're most welcome!
Can you use the battery grip with the bowens mount adapter together? Does the battery grip need to attach to the yoke?
Hey hey Stephan!
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Yes you can, for my setup during the short. I purposely used some paracord to hang it on the Light's yoke to act as a counter weight as I putting a much larger softbox on the Bowens adapter than what it was rated for. For a light stand setup I'll probably continue just using the paracord and hanging it on the light stand tension knobs. I like that better in general when working with lights. But if I go handheld with the light, I can attach to either the bowens light stand socket or the lights own socket, whichever gives me the most stability for the setup.
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i have dobt between the sokani V2 and the forza 60 i like the forza fresnell and the capability of shut the sound but does the Forza 60 fresnel worth it?
Hey hey again Felipe!
As I explained towards the bottom line of the video, because of the pricing of the Forza 60 and its specifically proprietary mount for their fresnel and other softboxes with a weaker yoke. I can only see it being worth it if the filmmakers is planning to invest in all Nanlite Principle lights for their kit. For me I cannot justify spending that much money for a 60w light where its accessories are not usable for any other lights, to me thats a devastating design mistake. I'm hoping Godox will release an updated battery operated version of their popular SL60 lineup. The color is quite good and comparable to the Forza60 and you can use all standard bowens modifiers with it.
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thaks! do you know a good Fresnel atachment for bowen mount be-side the aputure one, because the aputure is to soft in the edges?
Unfortunately I do not know of a good one as I haven't used any of the bowens Fresnel attachments before :(
@@TLDR_filmmaker I'd really like to know the answer to this as well! wonder if anyone out there knows??
Can you use the nanlite battery grip, also on the sokani x60?
Hey hey Quint!
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Yes you can, I show it in this video here: czcams.com/video/3drVUZ5LWPI/video.html
Sokani has already recently released their own battery plate (dual npf) that clips onto the light stand to make it a little more easy to rig up. geni.us/QJfX (Amazon Affiliate link)
Hope this helps!
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@@TLDR_filmmaker Thankyou! I bought the sokani x60 RGB. I think that that light will be the best budget bi color led light on the market. You should check out that light too.
Thanks for the respons!! Have a nice day
My review of the x60 RGB is coming this Wednesday :)
@@TLDR_filmmaker nice! Im already exited to check it out!
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