We've been making these for years and we always use a car valve stem and drill a hole through a regular soda bottle in and then fill them to about 90PSI and have never had a problem with one failing.. You have four out of six of these things that are failing but yet you said you trust these more than doing the homemade drill a hole in a soda bottle technique but I trust the homemade way way better than this ..
Interesting item Mike. Think I'll stick with water filled bottles for action targets and spend the 7 or 8 bucks on ammo or a six pack! Thanks for the good reviews!
Transporting an overpressurized soda bottle in a vehicle would be dangerous to your hearing if it let go inside with the windows closed. Only pressurize them at time of use for safety. The noise they make depends on how the bottle ruptures. Some are very loud, others not. Smaller bottles are much less likely to work well. The DIY caps seem to be stronger than these particular commercial units.
Oil/Gas/Cigars/Guns Makingmoneytheoldfashionedway Dry ice and hot water in a bottle with the lid screwed on tight. Will create pressure quickly and makes a loud boom when it bursts.
if done correctly the diy way is the strongest and can be the cheapest of all the options, but it's more work and has to be done correctly. it needs to be said that even though done correctly the diy way is stronger, all the methods, including the store bought ones, do have risk. Number 1 rule, without exception under no circumstances do you ever fill, handle or allow another person to be in the immediate area of a pressurized soda bottle without enclosed ear protection, the $4 WESTERN SAFETY Ear Muffs from harbor freight are fine, just NO EAR PLUGS, it needs to be protection that cups over ears to block the pressure wave should the bottle burst. I can confirm first hand, anyone in the vicinity without ear protection when a pressurized bottle bursts will suffer busted ear drums, trust me, i know first hand what happens and how many years it takes to fully heal, if they heal.......
6 years ago they're probably $10 a cap now. However the homemade ones that you're afraid to do it yourself work better than what you got there long as you're using the right bottle cuz I've used some thin bottles and blew them up trying to air him up however the homemade ones I do believe are better than that Chinese crap.
Those appear to have nippleson them. Mine do not. the just look like a neopreme or rubber seal in the caps. Yes, I have aired most up to 90psi and most explode very loud. But also I have had a few that just whooshed instead of exploding.
4:50 "do not store bottles that are under pressure" I was wondering why... it seems those caps are not very sturdy and the material gives up to the pressure soon
Best way to use these caps is to take them with you and pump them before shooting. To me it seemed like a common sense measure considering its 100 psi really thin plastic (bottle) being attached to plastic. I have both brands and use them immediately and they work with 20 oz bottles. I hit these things with slingshots, arrows and bullets and I ve had maybe 2 fail out of 12
Looking at the instructions I don't see where it says "Fill and store". Of course you are suppose to use immediately. It's stuff like this they have to put warning labels on lemon dish washing soap and not to use with ice tea.
I don"t have power at my range so I had to fill them up ahead of time. I fixed that with a 12 V pump. These caps are made stronger......czcams.com/video/ohcK8OQnWw8/video.html
Still need the bottles so I dont know. But using water bottles is fine for me. A case of water here is under 3 bucks. 24 reactive targets for 3 bucks is pretty good in my mind and safe. Not interested in getting plastic shrapnel in my hands and face or blowing skin off my hands.
Water bottles are a great alternative. Water balloons are an even cheaper alternative that we did a video on years ago. It is on my channel if you want to check it out.
Hey did you ever find out if the Boyd’s stock you put on your a22 magnum needed to be dremeled because it was for a17 or just because they didn’t make it exact ? I have one on the way and im nervous to try it out
So basically their junk pressure caps. I'd stick with the DIY ones. You can get stems hundreds at a time for cheap off eBay. Thanks for this review,nice job.
I am going to try to figure out an easy to fill then at the range. I don't have electricity on out property so I am going to try a pressure tank and see how many 2 liter bottles I can fill up with it. I'll also try to reuse the valves from the lids that broke.
Michael Bell i bought i think its a 5 gallon tank from harbor freight in sale for $20 it holds 130psi and i use my compressor to fill it, then i put it in my trunk etc incase of a flat etc or to fill the tires on the bikes, that might be perfect for these but i am not sure how many refills 5 gallons will give you
I've been using the tire valve stem and pop bottles for a while now. I got the idea from The King of Random: czcams.com/video/7rDRFFSUrPI/video.html I found the water bottles would fail at 60 psi, so switched to pop bottles, which I can pump up to 100 psi. I have discovered that the lower velocity rounds, and even air rifle pellets worked better. I did shoot them with my .223, and it just punched holes through them without any explosion. The best reaction yet is fill it 3/4 full of water and use a hollow point. The only problem is finding the darn caps and valve stems after the blast;). And at $.15 per stem from my neighbor's tire shop, it's far cheaper than any commercial product I've seen.
I have been using the Schrader valve method also but we don't shoot them, I just fill them until they explode for my nephew and holiday noise makers. I agree with the pressure figures but I usually use the 20 oz. gatorade bottles and they blow as low as 40 psi but they are still loud.
I do not have electricity out at my property. I am going to arrange a way to fill immediately when testing another brand, but I will fill some up ahead of time to do a fair test about the caps weakening.
@@MichaelBellmbell556 over night and before you go somewhere is totally different. Just saying there supposed to be to have a little fun with a pellet gun and are designed that way to deter stupidity from people trying to use them for unintended pourposes
Nice video I just wanted to mention that those look like bootleg caps you should try to make a video with the ones that Boomer X makes they even have a little hold to hang them up so you can reuse them they might be a made out of a tougher material
Willing to bet that the original bottle lids are stronger. Also I wouldn't waste time drilling and inserting some kind of valve...id just put a small chip of dry ice in it and screw the original lid back on. You'll figure out about how much it takes real quick... Maybe even measure it.
Michael Bell yes, but it's usually made to explode all by itself by adding too much ice and a little water, then throwing it and getting away from it until It blows. sometimes when you don't put enough dry ice, it requires quite a bit of encouragement to blow, such as shooting it. I would put a very small amount of dry ice in them and set them up out in your yard/range to let the ice evaporate and pressurize the plastic cylinder. But, start out small and work your way up if you plan on letting it completely evaporate inside and sit. Since too much will rupture the bottle automatically. safest way would be... make them up at the range or desired place of use and put them down range before they get pressurized... Then always shoot before approaching until you figure out how much it takes. Keep track of about how much goes into each bottle at first, so you can judge by the reaction when shoot if there was enough pressure... And if the bottle starts swelling up or ruptures, then your putting too much. Little more experimenting up front, but once you figure out the amount of ice to use (minus a little to be safe) then you have a lifetime of fun without all the headache of modifying them.
D Sloop as long as your not using them on public property, or pestering people / using them in a irresponsible manner then it should be fine. (kinda like shooting firearms) If your worried then ask the local LE if it's any different than using the store bought caps and pressurizing them with atmosphere instead of the CO².
“…the execution was done poorly.” You mean YOUR execution of not reading the instructions and storing them pressurized overnight? Seems a bit disingenuous to blame the product for your own failure. It’s obvious that they work when used (relatively) properly - as evidenced by your reaction that you showed no less than 3 times in this video.
Michael Bell no offense just waaay too dragged out for me. 5 minutes max could've easily reviewed it. Most CZcams channels love to hear themselves talk. No need to overanalyze something so simple. Just a suggestion to tighten it up next time. Quality not quantity. 😉 But thanks for posting up a video and trying. 👍
thunder caps are a waste of money, you can do the same thing for free only way better. motorcycle tubes have threaded valve stems, i go get the trashed tubes from the dumpster at the local motorcycle shop, i cut the valve stem out of the tube and cut out 2 small circular gaskets out of the remaining tube carcass, drill a small hole in the bottle cap, push the threaded valve stem through with one of the gaskets, slide the other gasket down the stem with a washer followed by threading the nut you removed from the stem in the beginning back down the valve stem and tighten with a wrench to seal it all. I usually run between 90-100 psi in the bottles but even at that pressure getting them to actually explode is hit or miss. if you want them to explode every time you have to prep the bottle but DO NOT prep with the bottle under full pressure. put about 10 psi in the bottle then with a razor knife make light crisscrossing score marks up and down the smooth part of the bottle, you just want to score the surface layer of the plastic, once your done go fill to pressure and when you hit it with a flat or round nose pellet is will explode at a level equal to a .45 or shotgun shot so it will hurt your ears pretty bad if you are too close. and you need to tether the bottle or you wont find your valve afterwords and if you wrap the cap tightly with electrical tape you will get 4-5 explosions out of it but if you don't use tape then be prepared to make a new pressure cap after every shot because the cap will blow to pieces if you're running the pressure i do...... ps. for some visual to go with the boom put 1 cup of corn starch, talcum powder, or powdered chalk in the bottle before you pressurize is, flour and other powders are to heavy to look realistic, those 3 will vaporize and go up like smoke when the bottle explodes.....
Quadflopper- I did the exact same thing. It does work great! Much better than the Thundercap and much easier to fill. I've had good luck with the Thundercap, too, though.
Touofthahighplains, Umm yeah tha 22lr pistol is fine and def has enough energy dispersed on bottles to cause explosion of said.... wooowzer, rifle much? Either way, great vid Michael Bell!
doing this creates hydrogen gas, while the bottle will pop just like pressurized air, if there happens to be any flames, sparks, static electricity present you will have an actual explosion. also, I'm not sure what the auto ignition parameters would be for pressurizing hydrogen gas in a bottle that already has oxygen in it. just be careful and maybe just stick with baking soda and vinegar.
tape a streamer on the cap so it stands out when you're looking for it
We've been making these for years and we always use a car valve stem and drill a hole through a regular soda bottle in and then fill them to about 90PSI and have never had a problem with one failing.. You have four out of six of these things that are failing but yet you said you trust these more than doing the homemade drill a hole in a soda bottle technique but I trust the homemade way way better than this ..
Interesting item Mike. Think I'll stick with water filled bottles for action targets and spend the 7 or 8 bucks on ammo or a six pack! Thanks for the good reviews!
Water balloons work well too.....czcams.com/video/wq8bD5nXEAM/video.html
Thanks for watching.
Hi Michael. Just wanted to say I really enjoy your reviews. You really go more indepth than a lot of other youtube'ers. Keep it up.
Thanks.
Transporting an overpressurized soda bottle in a vehicle would be dangerous to your hearing if it let go inside with the windows closed. Only pressurize them at time of use for safety. The noise they make depends on how the bottle ruptures. Some are very loud, others not. Smaller bottles are much less likely to work well. The DIY caps seem to be stronger than these particular commercial units.
Yep. czcams.com/video/ohcK8OQnWw8/video.html
I filled mine up to 300 psi and boy oh boy did they do the trick…WOW!!
If you do store them under pressure they actually will build more pressure if they are in a warm area which can cause the caps too burst.
you have to cut the extra plastic part off the bottle neck for the caps to seal completely
Very well done, very thorough. Thank you Mike
Dry ice and soda bottle. I knocked out 3 block's of power and cable TV. When I was young.
Explain please!!!! I need to know how you did that!! Dry ice???
Oil/Gas/Cigars/Guns Makingmoneytheoldfashionedway Dry ice and hot water in a bottle with the lid screwed on tight. Will create pressure quickly and makes a loud boom when it bursts.
Works cleaner and aluminum foil shake it drop it and run
Not much thunder in this storm ! But good job Michael .
Vinegar and baking soda, seal it, one shake & toss it. Wear safety glasses and gloves.
I just bought some of these. I used a bike tire hand pump and fill them with air just before I shoot them.
That is a better option. I also looked at another brand of these that I liked better.
Hey man they actually got a better set of them now there pretty cool you can tie strings to the caps so you don’t loose them
Got a different brand to test.
Drilling a cap and using an automotive stem is much stronger then these caps
That's what I do. Works great.
if done correctly the diy way is the strongest and can be the cheapest of all the options, but it's more work and has to be done correctly. it needs to be said that even though done correctly the diy way is stronger, all the methods, including the store bought ones, do have risk.
Number 1 rule, without exception under no circumstances do you ever fill, handle or allow another person to be in the immediate area of a pressurized soda bottle without enclosed ear protection, the $4 WESTERN SAFETY Ear Muffs from harbor freight are fine, just NO EAR PLUGS, it needs to be protection that cups over ears to block the pressure wave should the bottle burst. I can confirm first hand, anyone in the vicinity without ear protection when a pressurized bottle bursts will suffer busted ear drums, trust me, i know first hand what happens and how many years it takes to fully heal, if they heal.......
Axiom: boys will be boys. Corollary: given the opportunity, men will also be boys!
I'm going to have to try these. For research purposes, of course...
I like your attitude.
6 years ago they're probably $10 a cap now. However the homemade ones that you're afraid to do it yourself work better than what you got there long as you're using the right bottle cuz I've used some thin bottles and blew them up trying to air him up however the homemade ones I do believe are better than that Chinese crap.
I hope to see the results if you use the valve in a regular cap. Re use the o rings too.
I never had a cap fail. and I did lose 2...lost!
I only use 2 ltr bottles as the small bottles aren't as loud!
Yep
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching. I have another brand of these I will be looking at soon.
Those diy ones don't seem so bad now. I got 10 valve stems for $7
I looked at another brand that works better in this video....czcams.com/video/ohcK8OQnWw8/video.html
Wouldn't it be easier to find if you put the bottles upside down?
I'll try that, thanks.
Those appear to have nippleson them. Mine do not. the just look like a neopreme or rubber seal in the caps. Yes, I have aired most up to 90psi and most explode very loud. But also I have had a few that just whooshed instead of exploding.
They must have changed the design.
The caps should be good, way past 100psi, I've tried blowing up one, and maxed out the compressor.
For a long term air pressure try plastic weld u can get it auto parts store an I think Walmart has it I liked your video thinking about trying them
Thanks!
Looks like 3D printed caps think I'll stick to drilling caps way stronger.
4:50 "do not store bottles that are under pressure" I was wondering why... it seems those caps are not very sturdy and the material gives up to the pressure soon
correct.
Nice video, I'm sure you know by now Umarex blast caps makes the quality product
Yes they do
Add some water and drop two alka seltzers inside. Then pressurize. The alka seltzers will continue to pressurize the bottle.
I'll try it, thanks.
100psi was the max. You'll still get a pop at 80psi. Also if it's hot outside that will cause pressure to increase and surpass 100 psi.
Fill up just before using is critical
Well done. I learned a lot! Try duct tape If you do another long term air holding test. Thanks
Thanks, saved me the cost of buying them to try. They appear to be poorly constructed, and not worth the bother or cost.
Holy crap I use pkat arms . Great guys !
Let's get together and shoot sometime.
Works best at 85 lbs , caps don't break. Small bottles do not work very well.
Best way to use these caps is to take them with you and pump them before shooting.
To me it seemed like a common sense measure considering its 100 psi really thin plastic (bottle) being attached to plastic.
I have both brands and use them immediately and they work with 20 oz bottles.
I hit these things with slingshots, arrows and bullets and I ve had maybe 2 fail out of 12
Yep. I learned this. No accidents but they deflate with time.
Those 1.5 litter square plastic watter bottles work de best 😂🤣
Thanks!
Looking at the instructions I don't see where it says "Fill and store". Of course you are suppose to use immediately. It's stuff like this they have to put warning labels on lemon dish washing soap and not to use with ice tea.
I don"t have power at my range so I had to fill them up ahead of time. I fixed that with a 12 V pump. These caps are made stronger......czcams.com/video/ohcK8OQnWw8/video.html
Still need the bottles so I dont know. But using water bottles is fine for me. A case of water here is under 3 bucks. 24 reactive targets for 3 bucks is pretty good in my mind and safe. Not interested in getting plastic shrapnel in my hands and face or blowing skin off my hands.
Water bottles are a great alternative. Water balloons are an even cheaper alternative that we did a video on years ago. It is on my channel if you want to check it out.
when i saw you wasnt using 2l bottles at 1st i was like huh??? what type of sound does he expect from those little things? lolololol
Love your vid, keep it up.
Thanks.
Hey did you ever find out if the Boyd’s stock you put on your a22 magnum needed to be dremeled because it was for a17 or just because they didn’t make it exact ? I have one on the way and im nervous to try it out
I am not sure the reason, but it was an easy fix.
Michael Bell ok thank you I’m excited to get it. Boyd’s customer service can be a real pain. Great channel btw I love your videos
Thanks.
So basically their junk pressure caps. I'd stick with the DIY ones. You can get stems hundreds at a time for cheap off eBay. Thanks for this review,nice job.
I have another brand of the same idea I am going to take a look at.
Umarex Big Blast Caps seem to have a better success rate than this brand.
They just sent me some. Review to follow.
Great video. What 22 ammo do you use in your suppressed semiautos?
I was shooting Federal Target Grade.
They are called Big Blast by Umarex
The Big blast brand caps are much stronger than these.
I have some to test.
Good informational video
I have a competing company's similar product to test. I have been tied up for the last couple of months. Lots of reviews planned this spring.
I was told i was going to be sent some of these to try out.... Never got em
I am going to try to figure out an easy to fill then at the range. I don't have electricity on out property so I am going to try a pressure tank and see how many 2 liter bottles I can fill up with it. I'll also try to reuse the valves from the lids that broke.
Lots of typos above, sorry.
Michael Bell i bought i think its a 5 gallon tank from harbor freight in sale for $20 it holds 130psi and i use my compressor to fill it, then i put it in my trunk etc incase of a flat etc or to fill the tires on the bikes, that might be perfect for these but i am not sure how many refills 5 gallons will give you
I have the exact same tank. I am going to see.
A 12 volt compressor would fill those small bottles fast enough.
I've been using the tire valve stem and pop bottles for a while now. I got the idea from The King of Random: czcams.com/video/7rDRFFSUrPI/video.html I found the water bottles would fail at 60 psi, so switched to pop bottles, which I can pump up to 100 psi. I have discovered that the lower velocity rounds, and even air rifle pellets worked better. I did shoot them with my .223, and it just punched holes through them without any explosion. The best reaction yet is fill it 3/4 full of water and use a hollow point. The only problem is finding the darn caps and valve stems after the blast;). And at $.15 per stem from my neighbor's tire shop, it's far cheaper than any commercial product I've seen.
Thanks for the info. I am going to try your way.
Alan Cole Same here Alan there work great a 2 l bottle makes a mean bang
I have been using the Schrader valve method also but we don't shoot them, I just fill them until they explode for my nephew and holiday noise makers. I agree with the pressure figures but I usually use the 20 oz. gatorade bottles and they blow as low as 40 psi but they are still loud.
Cool for air guns but for 22 you can just use flash targets
If these were reliable then they are cheaper than tannerite.
They say do not store pressurized......really shouldn't need to be told that
I do not have electricity out at my property. I am going to arrange a way to fill immediately when testing another brand, but I will fill some up ahead of time to do a fair test about the caps weakening.
@@MichaelBellmbell556 over night and before you go somewhere is totally different. Just saying there supposed to be to have a little fun with a pellet gun and are designed that way to deter stupidity from people trying to use them for unintended pourposes
Nice video I just wanted to mention that those look like bootleg caps you should try to make a video with the ones that Boomer X makes they even have a little hold to hang them up so you can reuse them they might be a made out of a tougher material
They sent me some. Video review next month.
7:23 u can hear the bullet hit the trees in the back ground
Yep. That's why I like having them back there and then nothing but miles of marsh behind them.
Thats allways a smart way of using a range for urself
Willing to bet that the original bottle lids are stronger. Also I wouldn't waste time drilling and inserting some kind of valve...id just put a small chip of dry ice in it and screw the original lid back on. You'll figure out about how much it takes real quick... Maybe even measure it.
Have you done this?? We have dry ice available in town.
Research this, as it might be considered manufacture of a bomb.
Michael Bell yes, but it's usually made to explode all by itself by adding too much ice and a little water, then throwing it and getting away from it until It blows. sometimes when you don't put enough dry ice, it requires quite a bit of encouragement to blow, such as shooting it.
I would put a very small amount of dry ice in them and set them up out in your yard/range to let the ice evaporate and pressurize the plastic cylinder. But, start out small and work your way up if you plan on letting it completely evaporate inside and sit. Since too much will rupture the bottle automatically.
safest way would be...
make them up at the range or desired place of use and put them down range before they get pressurized... Then always shoot before approaching until you figure out how much it takes. Keep track of about how much goes into each bottle at first, so you can judge by the reaction when shoot if there was enough pressure... And if the bottle starts swelling up or ruptures, then your putting too much.
Little more experimenting up front, but once you figure out the amount of ice to use (minus a little to be safe) then you have a lifetime of fun without all the headache of modifying them.
D Sloop as long as your not using them on public property, or pestering people / using them in a irresponsible manner then it should be fine. (kinda like shooting firearms)
If your worried then ask the local LE if it's any different than using the store bought caps and pressurizing them with atmosphere instead of the CO².
Thanks for the info.
Its from the makers of the mega boom explosive targets and its better to use an air rifle
“…the execution was done poorly.”
You mean YOUR execution of not reading the instructions and storing them pressurized overnight? Seems a bit disingenuous to blame the product for your own failure. It’s obvious that they work when used (relatively) properly - as evidenced by your reaction that you showed no less than 3 times in this video.
Yep I should have read the instructions.
Good video
Thanks
Umarex ones are better and have a place to tie down so you will not lose.
I am going to check those out, thanks.
Nah i pass, I thought you can use it over and over. if they made out of metal.
The caps become random projectiles so metal ones might be a liability for the company.
Save yourself 15 minutes and go to 15:50 of video
Only if you don't want the full story.
Michael Bell no offense just waaay too dragged out for me. 5 minutes max could've easily reviewed it. Most CZcams channels love to hear themselves talk. No need to overanalyze something so simple. Just a suggestion to tighten it up next time. Quality not quantity. 😉 But thanks for posting up a video and trying. 👍
thunder caps are a waste of money, you can do the same thing for free only way better. motorcycle tubes have threaded valve stems, i go get the trashed tubes from the dumpster at the local motorcycle shop, i cut the valve stem out of the tube and cut out 2 small circular gaskets out of the remaining tube carcass, drill a small hole in the bottle cap, push the threaded valve stem through with one of the gaskets, slide the other gasket down the stem with a washer followed by threading the nut you removed from the stem in the beginning back down the valve stem and tighten with a wrench to seal it all. I usually run between 90-100 psi in the bottles but even at that pressure getting them to actually explode is hit or miss. if you want them to explode every time you have to prep the bottle but DO NOT prep with the bottle under full pressure. put about 10 psi in the bottle then with a razor knife make light crisscrossing score marks up and down the smooth part of the bottle, you just want to score the surface layer of the plastic, once your done go fill to pressure and when you hit it with a flat or round nose pellet is will explode at a level equal to a .45 or shotgun shot so it will hurt your ears pretty bad if you are too close. and you need to tether the bottle or you wont find your valve afterwords and if you wrap the cap tightly with electrical tape you will get 4-5 explosions out of it but if you don't use tape then be prepared to make a new pressure cap after every shot because the cap will blow to pieces if you're running the pressure i do......
ps. for some visual to go with the boom put 1 cup of corn starch, talcum powder, or powdered chalk in the bottle before you pressurize is, flour and other powders are to heavy to look realistic, those 3 will vaporize and go up like smoke when the bottle explodes.....
Thanks for this information.
Quadflopper- I did the exact same thing. It does work great! Much better than the Thundercap and much easier to fill. I've had good luck with the Thundercap, too, though.
10:54
The good!
Go for the megaboom
Checking it out soon!
I don't think that 22 pistol has enough power to to make them explode. I've shot a DIY water bottle with a 22 air rifle and it made a nice explosion.
Thunder caps are supposed to work with pellets, arrows rimfire and centerfire.
Big bang at 10:55. Just need to get and keep 100 PSI in the bottles.
Michael Bell interesting
Touofthahighplains, Umm yeah tha 22lr pistol is fine and def has enough energy dispersed on bottles to cause explosion of said.... wooowzer, rifle much?
Either way, great vid Michael Bell!
Sorry I meant to say Umarex caps
Super glue and baking soda will fix those caps
BET THEY ARE MAKE IN China
Seems like just about everything is!
The product did not fail, you fail.
Yep. Should have filled them up right before shooting them.
If you want boom bottles then use works toilet cleaner and aluminum foil and cap it
doing this creates hydrogen gas, while the bottle will pop just like pressurized air, if there happens to be any flames, sparks, static electricity present you will have an actual explosion. also, I'm not sure what the auto ignition parameters would be for pressurizing hydrogen gas in a bottle that already has oxygen in it. just be careful and maybe just stick with baking soda and vinegar.
You can't get the works for the past 5 years with the ingredients that made it blow up
I am a miserable failure.
OK then.
Michael Bell, I am sorry that I wrote that comment. Please forgive me.
‘Murica
it's across...not acrosst....probably never had a public speaking coarse in your school sytstem
I dropped Speech 101.....LOL