2021 Commander Precons: Worst to Best | Which Commander Decks are Most Worth Buying?

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  • We're ranking the Commander precons of 2021 from worst to best, letting you know what our favorites and least favorites are! If you're wondering what the best commander deck is to buy from this year, we've got you covered!
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    0:00 - 1:47: How are we ranking the precons?
    1:48 - 6:40 Number 15
    6:41 - 10:03 Number 14
    10:04 - 13:26 Number 13
    13:27 - 17:18 Number 12
    17:19 - 22:08 Number 11
    22:09 - 25:57 Number 10
    25:58 - 30:02 Number 9
    30:03 - 33:53 Number 8
    33:54 - 38:13 Number 7
    38:14 - 41:51 Number 6
    41:52 - 46:47 Number 5
    46:48 - 50:45 Number 4
    50:46 - 54:32 Number 3
    54:33 - 58:33 Number 2
    58:34 - 1:03:32 Number 1
    1:03:33 - 1:05:53 Grease?
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Komentáře • 416

  • @j1nchuika
    @j1nchuika Před 2 lety +546

    When I asked for this on discord, was just looking for a recommendation for which one to buy. Didn't expect such a thorough analysis. You guys made it awesome!

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety +71

      We loved the suggestion a lot!

    • @jeremiahgrover8169
      @jeremiahgrover8169 Před 2 lety +8

      It was a great suggestion

    • @finks1
      @finks1 Před 2 lety +28

      This should be an absolute staple of the channel but any chance you could do it around Black Friday next year so we can use it as an informed gift giving guide?

    • @richmondlau5945
      @richmondlau5945 Před 2 lety +3

      @@finks1 luckily we have boxing day in Canada. Hopefully some of these will be in sale if stores are trying to clear stock lol

    • @vincentferrer1495
      @vincentferrer1495 Před 2 lety +3

      They’re the best mtg channel for a reason!!

  • @therealjeromeo4366
    @therealjeromeo4366 Před 2 lety +160

    Just a couple of days ago I visited a game shop that wasn’t my normal one, but I learned that the commander 2020 precons there were still at $40. Picked me up a timeless wisdom deck while I was out, or should I say a $5 discount on fierce guardianship and 99 free cards lol

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety +22

      That's a nice deal!

    • @bladetb3934
      @bladetb3934 Před 2 lety +9

      If you get the chance you should go get kalamax too. Deflecting swat is probably the second best version of those cards. Maybe deadly rollick is second, hard to say really

    • @therealjeromeo4366
      @therealjeromeo4366 Před 2 lety

      @@bladetb3934 yeah I probably will after Christmas bc they did have arcane maelstrom too, and I already have deadly rollick from symbiotic swarm

    • @tomwitty465
      @tomwitty465 Před 2 lety +2

      Love this kind of thing. I lucked into a Mystic Intellect deck the same way. $40, thanks for the Dockside Extortionist.

    • @brendan8114
      @brendan8114 Před 2 lety +1

      Similar thing happened at mine with the 2019 sevinne deck, got dockside for $40 and 99 other cards for free :D

  • @murkmuffin
    @murkmuffin Před 2 lety +40

    As someone that works in an LGS and frequently gets the “which of these precons should I get?” Questions, i really appreciate your breakdown of each of these. I really enjoyed both of the kaldheim precons and felt that asking someone to invest 20$ in a functional deck is WAY more well received than asking them to spend 40$

  • @iamwatari4088
    @iamwatari4088 Před 2 lety +1

    I really enjoyed this video format, and the discussion. I don't have an hour of spare time so appreciate the stamps so I can watch the sections of commanders I was interested in.

  • @MirrorAshes
    @MirrorAshes Před rokem

    As someone just now getting into EDH and looking at precons you guys really do the best job of breaking down not just the value but the reasons why you’d want to play these decks. Love your videos!!

  • @Jayohp
    @Jayohp Před 2 lety

    This is an amazing wrap up video. Great choice of key information about each deck.

  • @braddorcas9363
    @braddorcas9363 Před 2 lety +29

    Rags on him for mentioning sol ring continuously. No issues with mentioning command tower every time.

  • @danyeal24
    @danyeal24 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome video! Chef's kiss!!!!! Thank you for your advice and opinions. You guys are great. Keep up the good work 👍☺️

  • @claygillman9351
    @claygillman9351 Před 2 lety +2

    Great timing for this video guys. We are starting a league up in January where you have to play one of the precons from this past year. Each week you get to upgrade $14-$22 each week depending on a ranking list that they have. With Coven Counters I would get $22 a week, so that might be a solid choice. Unfortunately Aura of Courage is only $14 per week for upgrades. But it was really good to hear what you guys thought of each of these.

  • @themochaman
    @themochaman Před 2 lety

    Great idea for a video. Keep up the great work, can't wait for games.

  • @michaelpatalano9884
    @michaelpatalano9884 Před 2 lety

    This is the perfect video i needed right now. Happy holidays, Nerds!

  • @philippophantastisch2310

    Great idea for a video! Absolutely love it!

  • @danielkuttel7867
    @danielkuttel7867 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for this great video and the time you have put in. Maybe you can show at the end a small sheet with all decks and ratings for every topic and overall rating? I love your content.

  • @petermullins3935
    @petermullins3935 Před 2 lety +10

    Love my prosper deck. I play dnd and was so excited to build prosper. I had know idea I would be building such a powerful/fun deck

  • @charlescrona5462
    @charlescrona5462 Před 2 lety +1

    Really cool video guys! Helped me filter through some junk in the vampire deck, you should do these kinds of videos every year! Maybe a little earlier in december though so you have time to order one as a gift hehe

  • @pentamagic
    @pentamagic Před 2 lety +13

    I spent so long trying to figure out which deck to buy, decided to last minute change my mind to Aura of Courage. So glad I did, is a great precon

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety +3

      It’s so awesome!!!

    • @pentamagic
      @pentamagic Před 2 lety

      ​@@NitpickingNerds I found Ranger Class to be an insanely good card for this deck, as it lets you cast creatures from the top of your deck too.
      (Also Volo, Guide to Monsters is a personal favourite due to having such a wide variety of creature types in the deck)

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety +1

      @@pentamagic ranger class seems solid maybe augur of autumn would be good as well

    • @pentamagic
      @pentamagic Před 2 lety

      @@NitpickingNerds The holy trifecta

  • @jamesgratz4771
    @jamesgratz4771 Před 2 lety +57

    I love osgir. He motivated me to finally
    Put together a 4 color artifact deck. So many cool new cards and a fun new Boros theme. I like the reanimating value engine

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety +6

      He is an awesome boros commander

    • @5allum
      @5allum Před 2 lety

      What's your commander?

    • @fader72
      @fader72 Před 2 lety +2

      @@5allum i assume Breya, i did the same thing lol

    • @dif4797
      @dif4797 Před 2 lety

      @@fader72 Nah, Atraxa is the real deal when building artifacts😉

  • @ectoBiologist21
    @ectoBiologist21 Před 2 lety +2

    I slept on Coven Counters so hard. Just played it out of the box as is and it was great. Ordered the cards from your guys upgrade video.

  • @therealjeromeo4366
    @therealjeromeo4366 Před 2 lety +9

    Favorite commander of these precons was a lorehold commander, but I chose alibou over osgir. I can’t deny osgir’s power, but the tap artifacts strategy seemed so much more fun for me

  • @BeauV495
    @BeauV495 Před 2 lety +3

    Sad to see breena in last place, as a precon with 4 or 5 cards added it has a huge win % in my pod, probably 75%. Keep up the good work nerds, I very much enjoy your daily content

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety

      Thanks a lot! Yeah a lot of these precons change drastically with upgrades

  • @patrickaquilina4374
    @patrickaquilina4374 Před 2 lety +1

    I love watching different CZcamsrs discuss the 2021 Commanders and comparing/contrasting opinions. There seems to be a lot of consensus that there were a lot of great commanders that had total garbage in the 99.

  • @josephcerasuolo3563
    @josephcerasuolo3563 Před 2 lety

    Yeah I picked up the Galea and the Adrix and Nev precons this year, switch Adrix and Nev out for Esix, and both have served me REALLY well as my reintroduction to MTG after being out for like 7 years. Esix helped me learn all of the mechanics again and how to order triggers, and Galea got me my first introduction to Voltron and how important it is to be able to cheat equip costs and storm off the top of a deck. Really impressed with both.

  • @mauriandlaw
    @mauriandlaw Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent analysis , it checks all the boxes. Subscribed immediately. Only 1 question, how Hellish Rebuke is not good ? I think the card it is great.

  • @ShineDawg
    @ShineDawg Před 2 lety

    New sub here great video I absolutely love dragon shield as well can't wait to watch more videos thanks guys. I look forward to supporting the channel

  • @dami5208
    @dami5208 Před 2 lety +6

    I picked up Galea precon same time as MH2 set booster, swapped a few pulls from the box straight in like Kaldrea compleat, Nettlecryst and Esper Sentinel and it almost felt like a real constructed deck with the great mana land base

  • @Jeunster
    @Jeunster Před 2 lety +1

    I build a deck from the Galea precon, with Storvald in command.
    That giant brought so many great ideas in my head while I discarded the idea of a seven mana commander at the time of spoilers I started going the giant adventure tribal in the end.
    Stonehewer cares about equipment and Boonweaver cares for auras.
    Then I thought it cool to bring in intrepid hero to whack opposing creatures, and pump em with the giant if they’re not big enough, or throw a rancor/bloodthirsty blade on them to make valid targets. Then I came up with the adventure cards from Eldraine, starting with Giant Killer and Realm-Cloaked Giant. I think that deck was one of the greatest to go different routes and still do synergistic stuff every turn. What a casual commander gem!

  • @Bruhecc
    @Bruhecc Před 2 lety +12

    Note to self:
    Wilhelt: 13:30
    Coven counters: 54:38

  • @vincentrutledge9445
    @vincentrutledge9445 Před 2 lety +2

    Dang. 57k subs. Seems like a week ago you guys did the 50k mail opening. Great job guys!

  • @Will_Morand
    @Will_Morand Před 2 lety +11

    My personal favorite was the Wilhelt deck. Most of the precons this year were far better than in the past, and Wilhelt is super easy to upgrade to make really powerful.

  • @Lilrockerdude13
    @Lilrockerdude13 Před 2 lety +2

    I grabbed up Phantom Premonitions week one of release. Every time I bring it to the table as is or with the suggested $50 upgrade, people are always so impressed with how it plays for such a cheap base of cost. I enjoy playing it and so glad it took the better half of this list. Grab it if you haven't it is fun even at base

    • @NeonXprime
      @NeonXprime Před 2 lety

      I’m haven’t played mtg in 2 years and plan to come back this year
      Do you still recommend the phantom premonitions deck? And if so can you tell me what the $50 upgrade for the deck is or link me a website/ video that has the upgrade list please and thank you!

  • @maximiliancunningham6598

    This video' was great. I played out of the box coven counters, and this pointed out the issues I had. Couldn't draw cards after consecutive board wipes, and not enough removal

  • @smithdood
    @smithdood Před 2 lety +1

    I'm pumped with Galea's placement! She's who I chose to get into edh with, and I'm happy to see her getting love!

  • @In_Response
    @In_Response Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks. perfect video for my birthday as the precon guy in my play group

  • @mexftplaya
    @mexftplaya Před 2 lety +3

    I loved the witherbloom precon. Took out all the cards that gave counters and replaced them with more life draining cards and ramp. I also replaced the commander with Beledros. The deck is very effective.

  • @MrNajie
    @MrNajie Před 2 lety

    Great video! I still think prosper is the best deck this year, I've played against the top 5 quite a bit and prosper consistently wins more. I did upgrade it quite extensively like 25ish cards but that's also part of it, such a high ceiling for upgrading

  • @J21UA
    @J21UA Před 2 lety +1

    I've had my Prosper's commander tax up to 14 and still had no problem getting him out. Crazy value engine and I don't even run any infinites in my build. One of my favorite commanders in my collection and I've been playing since 2003.

  • @Wojtek36762
    @Wojtek36762 Před 2 lety

    Still playing Prosper and Osgir, very happy with those decks. I bought the Galea deck, converted it to a Tuvasa enchantments deck, and now I have a pile of equipment support.

  • @mfitkin
    @mfitkin Před 2 lety +9

    Would you guys review the old precons for fun? I just want to hear you talk trash about some of the duds they used to toss into them. We’re honestly spoiled now by comparison, not necessarily as a whole, but nowadays the precons play much better out of the box

  • @jeremiahgrover8169
    @jeremiahgrover8169 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video and great subject 👍 keep it up guys I’m an idiot and buy every commander deck no matter what lol those reprints and new cards get me every time

  • @adamstilber8382
    @adamstilber8382 Před 2 lety +23

    Elven empire is definitely my favorite precon from this year because of how many $2+ elf tribal cards there were. There were a couple elves that I tossed out fast but they were easily replaced. If we’re talking about the deck that can make the cheapest upgrades to be a lot better, then I’d say Elven empire is damn near the top if not #1.

  • @kovala
    @kovala Před 2 lety

    I was really hoping Galea would get it. As a longtime fan of Bant Voltron, super cool to see a natural upgrade/evolution to my boy Rafiq. That deck truly was stacked!

  • @TheLucluchtloper
    @TheLucluchtloper Před 2 lety +3

    I recommend monologue tax, it is very good. Nearly always you get the mana out of it the first round it’s down, and I play it in a token synergy deck, so it really goes off. But since it’s not super insane it often stays around for quite a while since there are better removal targets

  • @lesstessress
    @lesstessress Před 2 lety

    I ended up swapping Adrix and Nev for Esix as commander and added a few more go wide spells in place of some counter cards and i think it makes the deck so much more interesting to play

  • @igorlemes1123
    @igorlemes1123 Před 2 lety +1

    39:38 dam right about deluge, Beezy. been running it on my Unesh list and it's SICK!

  • @wakefieldwade4019
    @wakefieldwade4019 Před 2 lety +1

    If you don't already know. This is an excellent video guys. Best of this quarter....so far😉

  • @francischungfs
    @francischungfs Před 2 lety +15

    Breena wanted your opponents to kill each other while Breena swoop in for the finisher when it's time. It's been a fun deck without much work but sad it's last in your list.

    • @Calpinable
      @Calpinable Před 2 lety +2

      Based on their videos before, the issue is not Breena or the idea of the deck but the card choices for the deck itself.

    • @francischungfs
      @francischungfs Před 2 lety +1

      @@Calpinable , totally understand but the so call duds mentioned inside is actually working on the deck and I would rate other few decks to be more on the lower end. But it's their opinion and totally respect it...just sad

    • @aes2621
      @aes2621 Před 2 lety

      @@francischungfs agreed. When you read the cards they rank as duds, they all have synergy with the +1/+1 counters and politics, or the inkling theme. + Felisa is an amazing b commander and when she’s in command, she plays the deck a lot better imo.

  • @obicortes8199
    @obicortes8199 Před 2 lety

    My favorite precon was Prosper. I upgraded it and have so much fun playing with it. It did so well the first couple of times that he now gets targeted by my play group.

  • @namisue7293
    @namisue7293 Před 2 lety +3

    I run twenty sources of card draw/selection in my wilhelt deck. It's purely a combo deck(no thoracle though I have self respect) that aims to combo off by turn seven in the absolute worst situations, but usually hits 4-6. Rooftop Storm+Acererak/(gravecrawler and a payoff), or poppet sticher with a payoff and wilhelt, but if all else fails ashnods altar getting extra mama off wilhelt to cast a Torment of Hailfire. Definitely my most powerful deck, i call it Zombo Combo

  • @vannwallnutt8823
    @vannwallnutt8823 Před 2 lety +3

    I think people missed Robe of stars at first but it's definitely the final piece Voltron decks needs. Because after hexproof and indestructible, the next thing you need is protection from edict effects and cyclonic rift

    • @FarrellDillonComedyMagicLV
      @FarrellDillonComedyMagicLV Před 2 lety

      I play a bunch of Voltron decks and this is going in every one I can put it in. I bought like 10 of the Galea Precons because a lot of those cards are going to be worth money.

  • @pcp_jesus
    @pcp_jesus Před 2 lety +2

    the Wilhelt deck literally just needs minimal tweaking and it's great. I actually switched Gisa and Geralf to be my commander with Wilhelt in the 99, and it already works significantly better in terms of just amassing zombies.
    They're definitely right about the weird amount of non-zombies though, but there's TONS of amazing zombies to just swap in.

  • @12jacobmar
    @12jacobmar Před 2 lety

    I was so excited for Wilhelt when I broke it out of the box, I played against other precons and it was sooooo slow! I’ve put some work into it but it’ll take some more money.

  • @supermassivi1995
    @supermassivi1995 Před 2 lety +1

    Thx for the birthday shoutout

  • @jaredcude9192
    @jaredcude9192 Před 2 lety

    As someone who just barely getting into magic crossing over from other tcg games. Love the way this game plays and how much more fun it is vs other games that are I’d consider more “serious” all the time. Anyway I have ZERO magic cards and I have very little experience with the game. Which deck should I shoot for? Thanks for any help!:)

  • @tefin420
    @tefin420 Před 2 lety +1

    My favorite is actually the silverquil one. A post on Facebook was saying they played all against each other and it was top 4 as well. It's probably my deck with the highest win rate. No one says oh this deck. It's fun for you and for other people playing. The Ghostly Prison effects are nice when it gets down to 1v1 but the commander makes a fun game of oh I'll hit that player I get cards.

  • @harrisonwulf8523
    @harrisonwulf8523 Před 2 lety

    Big D & D nerd, I got both prosper and Gaelia. I love them both, but Prosper is crazy. Threw birgi in and Laelia blade reforged, and with maybe five other additions, it has been going crazy

  • @lunarlight3131
    @lunarlight3131 Před 2 lety +2

    oh boy was i sweating the whole day. lunch time came, no neds. finally dinner time and nerds! cheers!

  • @flipside2die4
    @flipside2die4 Před 2 lety +1

    What are your top 3 precons this year AFTER your upgrades?

  • @tempestandacomputer6951

    Another comment mentioned this: I think it would be funny to see you guys review the original Commander precons. If you KNEW the kinds of cards that were in that Kaalia precon lol

  • @rvong47
    @rvong47 Před 2 lety +1

    My first commander was Galea Kindler of hope. I hated it as it was my first time playing magic, that opinion changed after watching the upgrade video you guys did. I bought Osgir after ya’lls video came out as well. I have loved them both ever sense. Right now I’m trying to figure out if I want to make Ranar spirit/fortell tribal my third deck. :^)

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety +1

      Aw, that's super fun! Glad we could help you out to enjoy them more!

  • @Mr_B_251
    @Mr_B_251 Před 2 lety +3

    As far as the precon decks themselves... I purchased 10/15. I agree with the strength of the Coven deck... but I ultimately bought it to scrap for parts. Out of the box, I'm straight up a Sefris or Osgir fan. But Leinore itself is probably the best commander of 2021 from the precons.

  • @AdamHillVelcrosuit
    @AdamHillVelcrosuit Před 2 lety

    Would be really great if when you're listing what you're judging the cards on, you had some text pop up. Great episode.

  • @andrewrockwell1282
    @andrewrockwell1282 Před 2 lety +1

    Coven counters is solid. I love Kyler, he is expensive but so explosive. Give me a turn or so after I play him and I will swing the table for lethal.

  • @Dzicozan
    @Dzicozan Před 2 lety

    birthday lad is me today, thanks for the wishes guys

  • @ImTheMrFoxman
    @ImTheMrFoxman Před rokem +1

    Just bought the #1 on your list at my LGS yesterday (before seeing this video) and it seems kinda lackluster in comparison to the 5-color deck (not on this list) I bought along side it. In play testing of the two, the equipments are very slow. Maybe the strategy is to get your commander out as fast as possible? Probably just RNG but the deck kept being mana-starved while precon 5-color deck I bought just went nuts with lands and could consistently bring out its 5-7 cost creatures.

  • @Andreasws24
    @Andreasws24 Před 2 lety

    Shacklegeist has litterally won me games. Using tokens to tap down big stuff feels great. I even put Opposition in this 😊

  • @trialbyicecream
    @trialbyicecream Před 2 lety

    I’m bummed tomorrow is likely a short because Beezy won’t tell me happy birthday. I’ll take the early one today- thanks!

  • @calebcluff9904
    @calebcluff9904 Před 2 lety

    Randomly picked up Galea from a Target earlier this year and didn't know what to expect. Its kick ass now, enough for my friend who plays Tiamat to say it's "bullshit". #1 surprised me but i just didn't know what else was out this year. Really psyched to hear its #1

  • @SpecHallenbeck
    @SpecHallenbeck Před 2 lety

    Galea is so fun and good that I changed out like 4/5 cards only and have it as a lower power deck that’s still fun and good. Also love with Ozgir having more mana than green decks, even more lands in addition to rocks if you have the Karn that pulls artifacts out of exile

  • @DigitalinDaniel
    @DigitalinDaniel Před 2 lety +2

    The four Innistrad decks are just awesome, one of the best worlds from MtG loaded with tried and true themes. I also think Kaldheim moving MtG into Norse Mythology is a great direction, but the set felt very lackluster... they spread their Gods too thin when a mono-colored Odin, Frigg, Thor, Loki, and Heimdall would have been more than enough. The uncommon Kaldheim legends though pretty weak are just far more cool and interesting. (Ranar also feels more like Odin than Alrund) :^)

  • @CKarasu13
    @CKarasu13 Před 2 lety

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you guys poop on Expressive Iteration in the prismari power up video? Kinda confused me when you did given it's a pretty good card.

  • @MareczqZglos
    @MareczqZglos Před 2 lety +2

    Osgir for me is nr.1 :) Its a deck that i play A LOT - change a lot in it in time. From simple big artifacts "reanimate" deck with more "discard" outlet - to some fast draw/combo deck - eding now to amazing PL9 deck with STAX staregy and super fast mana...
    Gaela of me is nr.2 ... its my Favorite deck to play. I tried it in few builds too - but here i one was totaly the most fun and best. You build it as super fast pure equip deck ( Exept ramp Auras - they are amazing !!!) with super low cost for equipments and a lot creatures that lower cost of playing them. So the startegy is to put Gelea in game, and then really CHAIN 10+ cards from top - its amazing FUN :D What is best - even if i build this deck reallllyyy good (Great mana base - fetches etc. - all best equipments like Swords - and all best stuff to manipulate library + a lot Tutors) its not OP , and you can play it even in "lower" PL table - sure you can like make Galea 11/11 with DS in turn 4-5 ... but thats is still easy to STOP, and in best case scenario can kill 1 player...
    Nr.3 is elf deck... i love the deck i build based on the Pre-Con... problem is after all my upgrades and cards i want to run... i end up with may 20 cards from orginal deck ;P I still love my elf deck - but i could just buy the cards i needed - not the full Pre-Con... ;P

  • @Mylesdevos
    @Mylesdevos Před 2 lety

    Hey I have a reap the tides deck and saw that the strixhaven decks were on sale at my LGS and was wondering what you guys thought about combining quantum quandrix and reap the tides together?

  • @markoramius4689
    @markoramius4689 Před 2 lety +2

    I get that the precon is a bit underwhelming, but my upgraded Breena deck is my favorite deck. Built with politics, +1 counters, and board wipe resilience as themes in that order. It's also fairly strong. Won me quite a few games.

    • @tempestandacomputer6951
      @tempestandacomputer6951 Před 2 lety

      Can you expand on "board wipe resilience "?

    • @markoramius4689
      @markoramius4689 Před 2 lety

      @@tempestandacomputer6951 things like Felisa, Fang of Silverquill, Basri's Lieutenant, Selfless Spirit, Guardian of Faith, and multi-reanimator effects like Sun Titan and Incarnation Technique. The idea is that if the board ever gets wiped (usually by me), I'm either protected, or the quickest to recover.

  • @corbingovers7559
    @corbingovers7559 Před 2 lety

    One of Wilheldt's biggest detractions is that almost all of its reprints were only expensive due to supply and cratered when it was reprinted, and out of all the precons I've upgraded this year, I've taken the least number of cards out of it (adrix and nev is basically a completely different deck)

  • @schumerus6786
    @schumerus6786 Před 2 lety +1

    Funny that the Leinore deck and the Adrix and Nev could really profit from some switch ups, the green token makers from Leinore to AnN and the green counter cards from AnN to Leinore

  • @aaronmiller1009
    @aaronmiller1009 Před 2 lety +1

    I literally cannot wait for my birthday video

  • @billsussman6554
    @billsussman6554 Před 2 lety

    I HATED my vrondiss deck until I switched to klauth. Now it’s one of my favorites. The precon was meh in general. I ended up putting a lot of ramp and changing the creatures around. Throwing in eldrazi, etali, ilharg, etc. Lots of damage doublers and extra combat spells, heroic intervention, wrap in vigor, cauldron of souls, soul of new phyrexia, lots of green card draw, and some removal and x spells. It’s a force now. Not the most powerful but it’s extremely explosive and can win the game seemingly out of nowhere. It’s a lot of fun to play.

  • @matthewbajkowski2210
    @matthewbajkowski2210 Před 2 lety +6

    Coven counters is my favorite. I bought that and undead unleashed at the same time, and after playing with both, I found Coven Counters and Leinore so great and fun. Sadly because it didn’t have as much “value” as when that and the undead unleashed were announced, most of the players at my lgs went with zombies instead of experiencing the greatness of leinore.

    • @TroostDesigned
      @TroostDesigned Před 2 lety

      Leinore is such an amazing commander! I recently bought her precon and I wasn't dissapointed. She is such a flavorful commander. I went human tribal btw.

    • @bensouder8648
      @bensouder8648 Před 2 lety

      How do you feel about Kyler? At first glance at the cards, Kyler seems like it does a little more for providing an insane amount of counters paired with other cards in the deck. Leinore just provides a single counter and card draw. Just curious why I see more praise for one over the other.

    • @TroostDesigned
      @TroostDesigned Před 2 lety

      @@bensouder8648 Leinore is still more of an underdog, Kyler while great just paints a target on your back. Although I think is great that both of them make for a great human tribal commander.

    • @bensouder8648
      @bensouder8648 Před 2 lety

      @@TroostDesigned good point, I guess theres an art form to having a solid commander but not one that's going to make everyone go for you every time

    • @lilapple
      @lilapple Před 2 lety

      @@bensouder8648 I got the precon and swapped to Kyle as my commander, added some cards that give trample and now everyone's scared to play against him. Deck is still weak to flying but man if you can get Kyle out, give creatures trample, and get sigardian zealot or wild beast master its game over provided you can keep him alive. The card that gives him indestructible is good and so is swift foot boots giving him hexproof. I feel like he's more consistent than Lenoire and her ability is good but in a mostly human deck Kyler just makes more sense

  • @pattap9033
    @pattap9033 Před 2 lety

    Thx for the video. But didnt you forget some decks like the Kaldheim and Innistrad Spirit-Decks?

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety

      They were all on here

    • @pattap9033
      @pattap9033 Před 2 lety

      @@NitpickingNerds oh sry you are right so I must have missed it.
      One question: would you leave predators hour in the vampire deck or take it out?
      And there are so many strong creatures so is molten echos really so bad in this deck?

  • @Saphilmax
    @Saphilmax Před 2 lety

    I totally agree with you guys, Aura of courage is by far the most powerful deck that was released this year. I bought it and builded around it to a point that it is ridiculous to play. Sure, equipments are expensive (Swords of..) but it get to a level that nobody can match. The only problem is that it is so good, my friends don't want me to use it anymore..

  • @MrCoopersly
    @MrCoopersly Před 2 lety

    How many Basics do you think is optimal for a 3-colour deck, i have a naya mayael deck and i only run like 6, two of each, the rest ist basically utility and dual lands. At this rate should i replace kodamas reach/cultivate for wood elves?

  • @kingginger3335
    @kingginger3335 Před 2 lety +25

    The best Precon deck was Zombies but the best Commander was Osgir. His ability to recur and copy artifacts is so damn power is absurd! Especially when it's mana artifacts like Grim Monolith and Mana crypt. It's really cool when it gets going

    • @poofypeanut0221
      @poofypeanut0221 Před 2 lety

      The best is Zombies or your favorite is Zombies?
      Definitely not the best power level wise.

    • @Mr_B_251
      @Mr_B_251 Před 2 lety +1

      Wilhelt definitely has a great CEILING for what you can BUILD. I have a friend who has been playing Wilhelt out of the box, and it tends to do a lot of nothing in our games because it's fragile. He'll dump 4 or 5 zombies out... then they'll all die to a boardwipe. Rinse and repeat.

    • @lukecullen7934
      @lukecullen7934 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Mr_B_251 with an under $50 upgrade it can easily be the best of all the decks this year

    • @joshholmes1372
      @joshholmes1372 Před 2 lety +2

      Wilhelt is great. You just gotta replace 5-10 duds for some great zombies.

    • @Mr_B_251
      @Mr_B_251 Před 2 lety +1

      @@lukecullen7934 Right. That's what I was saying. WILHELT is a great commander. The deck STRAIGHT out of the box... not so much.

  • @ArchangelJaceAscended
    @ArchangelJaceAscended Před 2 lety

    Wilhelt supercharged my zombie deck. I was playing Gisa and Geralf because Scarab God is out of my budget. Wilhelt was perfect. The issue with buying the deck was that there were so many cards in the precon that I already had in my zombie deck. But it added some nice stuff, too. I bought Galea because I love equipment decks but most of the cards went into my Boros equipment/aura deck. But I may have to just build Galea since it has blue and green in it. I'm also surprised you didn't mention Sword of the Animist. All you have to do is attack to Rampant Growth. My biggest issue with Coven Counters is the lack of actual value. I feel like if I want those individual cards, I'll buy them separately. I rarely play precons out of the box because I always want to rip cards for existing decks. In Wilhelt's case, he became my new commander for a deck I already had. Willowdusk gave me a bunch of great lifegain cards for my Leisa deck and the Osigir deck had a ton of stuff I needed for various decks. I was disappointed by the other Strixhaven decks for the most part. Veryran found a home but I feel like I really need to do something with Adrix and Nev. I have no plans to do anything with Breena. I don't have all of them yet but I'm looking at Strefan next. Prosper looks like it has some good value so that's a consideration and then the Dungeon deck looks cool. Galea is the only one I picked up from D&D so far though.

  • @Purgatog
    @Purgatog Před 2 lety +1

    I’ve been meaning to ask - who put Solgaleo on the shelf in the background?

  • @shesgard37
    @shesgard37 Před 2 lety +3

    Zaffai is a real fun deck but I changed more than half of the precon. Tried to keep the theme of 5 cmc or greater to make 4/4's and win through combat

    • @kyledsweeney
      @kyledsweeney Před 2 lety +1

      I replaced a bunch of cards with 5 cmc and X spells, and that deck is a lot of fun. A bit slow to ramp, but then always triggering the 5 and 10 cmc effects. I think the other strategy of cheating out big spells might be more powerful for its ability to combo, but X-spells hold up decently in a combat meta. It’s too bad you can’t mix strategies since cheating out an X spell is almost always a waste.

    • @shesgard37
      @shesgard37 Před 2 lety

      @@kyledsweeney yeah I only run 3 x spells

  • @smolclips5996
    @smolclips5996 Před 2 lety

    We had a precon tournament at my lgs and I took sefris. Won the tournament. It takes patience but the deck is solid and the themes seem to conflict but they all fuel a reanimator theme. Most the games became plaguecrafter over and over with sun titans and karmic guides added in. House of a deck

  • @TheUltimateRey
    @TheUltimateRey Před 2 lety +14

    Osgir is top in terms of boosting boros artifact support

  • @peterixxx
    @peterixxx Před 2 lety

    I had a very explosive game with the Vrondiss deck. Basically hit all the good stuff there was to have and ended the game in 5 turns with the damage doubling effects and overruning everyone with imaginary dragons.
    I doubt it can do that regularly, but it felt good :)

    • @joshholmes1372
      @joshholmes1372 Před 2 lety

      Yeah just got smashed by it last night. Next game they didn't ramp well and basically did nothing. So hit or miss I guess.

  • @equos5060
    @equos5060 Před 2 lety +1

    I have Galea but I think I need more experience with her. Love my Gruul Dragons after I pimped that deck out. Zombies and Spirits are great too. I have 6 of those precons so I guess I have a problem :)

    • @Jeunster
      @Jeunster Před 2 lety

      Don’t worry, I got like 11 of these precons so my problem is much bigger.🤪

  • @theinvisiblegentleman1142

    I think you guys are undervalued undead alchemist. Exiling your opponents creatures before they even hit the field, and making a bunch of zombie tokens is great.

  • @vannwallnutt8823
    @vannwallnutt8823 Před 2 lety +1

    My main deck currently is Galea Enchantress deck and going into this video, I'm ready to expect Galea to be on the low number, maybe around 9. Didn't expect her precon to be number 1 lmao.

  • @TCousteau
    @TCousteau Před 2 lety

    I just got into mtg in august & I bought the Aura of Courage precon with zero knowledge 😂 I’m glad I got it

  • @FullmetalGanon
    @FullmetalGanon Před 2 lety +1

    I usually buy all the commander decks each year and my favorites this year were prosper and galea. the strixhaven decks seemed a bit underpowered in my opinion? maybe just not focused enough on one theme?

    • @malmasterson3890
      @malmasterson3890 Před 2 lety

      Yeah, my silverquill statement deck is a shadow of the original product. Only 30 cards (including non-basics, rocks, & removal staples) survived the cuts. Many of which I'm probably gonna cut anyways once I convert to Anafenza.

  • @gibbysg8143
    @gibbysg8143 Před 2 lety

    I was thinking about imposing grandeur in a Gishath deck and thought it’d be pretty sweet

  • @happyholton352
    @happyholton352 Před 2 lety

    great breakdown, but no idea what decks you are talking about, most of the time. Happy Christmas!

  • @cheesybeans2262
    @cheesybeans2262 Před rokem

    I had Butcher of Malakir and Skullclamp out and just completely took over the game

  • @ImAussieMate
    @ImAussieMate Před rokem

    Mr thunder collector conductor was one of my favourite decks to pilot.

  • @dylanspohler8292
    @dylanspohler8292 Před 2 lety

    I need a deck that's finely tuned to play 1 on 1 commander against a top tier ghost chieftain deck, something to shut it down or something, any help or suggestions appreciated.

  • @elipetrou9308
    @elipetrou9308 Před 2 lety +1

    Crazy content lately

  • @kk_33
    @kk_33 Před 2 lety

    Selfless squire is actually an incredible card that has won me more games than I can count that I would otherwise have lost