TORQUE Airbag Upgrade and Ford F350 7.3L Review
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- čas přidán 20. 04. 2023
- In this video Todd installs and reviews the TORQUE Airbag Suspension, 5000lb airbags for our F350. He also provides a short review of our 2022 Ford F350 7.3L gas motor and truck. He discusses the strength of the 7.3L motor and how it hauls our truck camper.
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Really enjoyed you sharing the experience, for when i install myself!
I put similar Torque Airbags on my Tundra. I had a problem with one air bag leaking down and Torque was great at getting it replaced for me. They were great to deal with. The airbags work great at improving the suspension on my truck and leveling the load put on by the trailer.
Absolutely gorgeous truck! Very nice setup you have with the truck and trailer, I really like where you put the air lines too.
What a good looking truck 😍
I wasn't expecting the little DEF fill area inside your fuel door, even if it's only a dummy like me! Great spot to put those air valves though.
I got this and installed on my 23 F350. One thing I found out is to test the connection of the air tubes before install. Two installation later I finally got them.
Thanks
First comment, first thumbs up and first to say "Good job Todd!"
Great video
That slot is probably to make the bracket universal.
You could of maybe put extra bolts in the slot to take up the slack, just a thought
Great video Todd! To bad you basically had to do the install twice because of poor directions - seems much better the way you did it like the Firestones. I plan to put backs on my 2017 F350 and appreciate your info/install video. I had planned to put the air fittings in the gas fill area and really like how you did yours. Thanks again.
I am NOT buying a Ford F450 7.3L until I can find it in that exact color and configuration! Looks great!
Thanks for the video. Interesting that the sticker says they are made in Turkey! Who would have thought! Love the reviews on the 7.3 V8 too.
Turkey makes some very high quality firearms. (And some not so great ones)
Great video, Todd. I’m considering some sumo springs on my RAM 2500. Feel like I’m getting some rebound hauling the RV, 1000lb tongue weight.
I’ve been over my weight distribution hitch 3 times now. All the numbers match up. So now I’m looking at suspension.
51,000 km (32,000 miles) on my 7.3L Godzilla with no engine issues. Leaking pinion seal, back-up camera fried, frozen locks (Canada) and a constant burning oil smell is all I've experienced so far. Tow an 8000lb travel trailer with the 2020 F250 like a dream.
Thanks for sharing, I will be posting anything wrong with my 2022 Dodge quad cab diesel. Not enough miles to post anything yet other than what I posted. What MPG do you get?
Did you get the oil smell issue resolved?
What I read is the problem with cam and roller lifters dont start till after 40K and the fix is a new motor from Ford because the metal goes all threw the oil galleys .
Great idea nstall
Great video…. Always look forward to watch your how to videos. Yes, a gas engine is a lot simpler… No DEF, cheaper easier to find. When I saw you put airbags on my way. Oh no… With my single axle I believe there wasn’t a positive with airbags because I had to put 5060 pounds in them and it made them like a balloon. But with your heavy duty Dooley, it makes a lot more sense not to mention the torque brand being heavier duty.
Put my airbags air fill in same place on my chevy 2500 hd figures lest dirt and don't bang'm up hooking up a trailer. Easily filled with small 12v compressor. Had no problems with so far over 10 years old. Can't remember the brand but helped a lot while carrying my lance.
Thank you for the video. I've installed Air Lifts on my previous truck and I am looking at installing them on my F350 7.3L gasser. great additions. I'm going to take a look at these now though. I ordered my 21' F350 with a gasser on purpose & I am sure glad. Plenty of power towing my 8400# tt and mpg's are pretty good at 10.3 average towing up & down the hills & mtns here in the PNW. On a 4200 mile trip friend with a diesel averaged ~1.5mpg's better but was paying ~$1 a gal more + DEF. I had no issues keeping up or down any hills or mtns with him. Braking is not an issue with the 10spd. Rarely use the brakes. I can buy a lot of gas for the $10k cost difference as well & no emission problems. BTW... the Amazon link says, "Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock." hope they come back.
Glad to hear you’re loving your 7.3 L as much as I am. So far it’s been a great truck. Sorry the link doesn’t work. I guess Amazon must’ve sold out of the airbags. Hopefully they’ll get some more soon. Thanks for watching!
Looks like a good fit now. Seams like we always have to change something.
We ride with the Firestone bags on our Chevy 3500 DRW hauling our Lance 1181 and love the performance. 5 years in now with no real issues!
What is the weight rating of your Firestone bags? Are they 5000 Lb. like Todd's?
I’m running Firestone 7500 LB on my 2020 GMC 3500 Diesel Dually with 2022 Host Mammoth. Run the bags at 10psi with empty bed and 90psi loaded with the camper. Traveled 3 times to East coast(Boston area) from Portland OR with side trips to Nashville TN. No issues so far. Next trip will be to the Keys. Nothing like being on the road for a couple of months. And we always spend a week in SD Blackhills/Custer area. Cheers
Just to let you know that I covered all my air lines with fuel line hose to keep them from rubbing and heat and very easy to put on . Hope the helps Todd
That’s a good idea! Thanks for watching!
It’s good to know that you read what write, You guys are doing a great job ! Hope your head healed up.
If there is room it would be nice to have a gauge inside your fuel door. Just a thought and I guess I have a lot of them. Nice rig !
I really enjoy your detailed videos as I’m looking at a similar setup in a couple years.
I noticed in one of your videos you were 13,600 gross weight but that was with half fuel and no water or food. That tells me a 350 won’t technically haul a reasonably loaded 1172. I think I may go with a 550 setup.
I see you bagged the flatbed truck. That Ford looks nice! I have a gas Chevy. There’s no need for an expensive diesel.
Wow I was impressed with the bags at first but something seems totally wrong with the instructions.. glad you figured it out. Seems like a heavier duty air bag solution might be needed ..
Hay great 🎥 when will you put out a 🎥 on the weight of the truck with the camper on it loaded for a trip I'd like to know what you're gross weight is.Thinken about buying a ram or ford gasser have a ram diesel with a arctic fox 1150 thanks
You pay for what you get, made in Turkey. I would never have thought to deviate off firestone, or try any of the hacks with your spring spacers. Maybe try Daystar cradles and get rid of that inferior bottom bracket? I prefer manual fill and the ability to independently adjust each side to just about sit on the helper spring... Where you've mounted your schrader valves is clean, but you cannot see your leafs when adjusting. I blew a firestone with a super heavy load and clearance issue with tire. Everybody and their dog carries replacements. Food for thought
Todd, you will notice a difference as well after you put on the Torklift upper stableloads.
I have the Airlift 5000 Ultimate bags on my F350 along with the upper stableloads. The way I set the air pressure on the bags is that after the camper is loaded, I bring up the air pressure on the bags until the upper stableloads are just engaged with the overload spring.
On my Norther Lite that is about 30-35 lbs in each bag. You want your overload spring to do most of the work, not the bag.
Good luck and you have a great looking new truck. Now that you just got your new Northern Lite, I think you have the ultimate combination of truck and camper.
Thanks for your nice comments. Your set up sounds about like what I’ve done on my truck. I put my bags at 30 psi so the stableloads are just touching the overload springs. It rides nice and has worked great so far with the NL. Thanks for your tips and thanks for watching!
@@RunawayRosesI need some help, pulled off bump stops and only one hole. The bar that holds the airbag on top rail doesn’t seem to go there, bump stop only had 1 bolt not 2 as the diagram said
Thanks for another great video Todd. Two questions: 1) about how long did it take you to install (if you only had to install once, haha!) and 2) are the air bags still performing well, staying out after you reinstalled? Thanks!
They took a few hours to install but worth it. After I fixed the setup they have worked great so far. Holding air and staying in place. Thanks for watching!
When empty, do they help the ride quality? Or they are just for leveling with the camper?
The main selling point on the ford over the ram is the fact that we have not seen any fords break in half behind the cab like the ram 3500 does when you put a camper in the bed.
Good video but I REALLY wanted MPG. As you probably remember I bought a 2022 Dodge dually quad cab diesel with the Aisin transmission. My cyber friend has a gas chevy dually, with the same camper and he says he gets 10 MPG hauling. JJ, usually tells everything straight. I'm getting 13 but honestly like you I haven't checked it close enough to say I'm truly getting that. The compute says I'm getting 14.3 MPG. but I'm getting a tad over 13 as tested. I haven't even figured out my truck yet. Retired whole seller, I bought and sold things I could move. I am retired now and more of a Dodge fan. But the payload is only 52 hundred pounds and NOT what the internet says. lol, Great video. Your lance is heavy but very nice. My 2023 Northern lite is good for us and lite enough. lol, but cramped.
Just as a reference for you... I have a 21' F350 7.3L 3.73 rear & tow a 8400# tt. I've averaged 10.3 mpg's in ~8k miles of towing here in the PNW going up hills & mtns along the ways. My worst has been 8.5 on a 120 mile leg with strong side & head wind. My best was 13. I've only done one empty freeway trip but got 17.5. Town is ~13, but rarely drive it empty. 4k trip from PDX to Phoenix area I averaged 10.3 friend with simular tt & a diesel ave ~1.5 better. He was paying ~$1 a gal more as well + DEF. Shorter trips to the Coast we have about the same difference. I have no issues keeping up hills or down them with him. Rarely use the brakes going down big hills with the 10spd tranny. No emission issues as well.
@@herb7877 Thanks, actually that's not bad at all. Especially since diesel is higher and cost more to operate. Thanks! Head win is always a killer, especially hauling something or carrying a truck camper as I do.
@@horsetrader1991 yes, we have had 2 slide in campers. Living near the Columbia Gorge we know about headwinds.
@@herb7877 I'm sure you know MORE about the pro's and con's of owning a truck, more than I do since you owned so many rigs. I bought a 2023, Northern lite, my 10.2 fully loaded camper has a slight leak. ONLY leaks in a big down pour. I paid a lot of money, and the dealer wants to put me on the back burner. Is there any special way to recaulk the roof? I suspect everything should be resealed? Should I be worried? I know water is the big no no in campers. I don't want a gas truck so buying a bigger camper is not an option. Anyway thanks for responding and I could use some help here, advice! Please!
Todd, I was wondering if you considered Torklift Stableloads? If so, would love to have your input about them. We just ordered a 2023 Ford F350 Lariat, mostly due in part to your videos. We will be putting a big Host Yukon camper on its back and towing a Jeep Rubicon Unlimited. The camper manufacture and the dealership recommended installing Stableloads over air bags. When you get the time, would love to see a video of the towing performance with your Jeep and camper with the truck. Also, are you running all-terrain tires? It looks like you are. It's what we ordered on our truck since we plan to do a lot of boondocking. Keep up the good videos. Appreciate you and wife's hard work on them.
Thanks for the nice comments. Yes we do have the Torklift upper stableloads. We made a video on them a couple months ago. I would agree that would be a good thing to get for your new truck. Safe travels and thanks for watching!
@@RunawayRoses sorry Todd. I should have been more specific. I was referring to the Stableloads that go on the bottom of the springs.
Todd & Carla , I noticed you are selling your new Truck and Camper on the internet. "WHY" please let us in on your change of plans. As always we want the best for you two, love the content of your channel, we learn so much right along with you guys, as you experience all that you do with your adventures.Thanks let us know what you are up too must be missing the diesel now?
We’re not selling the truck just the camper if we get what we want. Otherwise we’ll just keep it because we do love the Lance. We’ll see how it goes. Thanks for the nice comments and for watching!
@@RunawayRoses Can't wait to hear why you would sell the Lance 1172.
Nobody spends more money per night of camping than you.
Alot of reviews on Amazon reported missing parts. Also I read bags moved . What is your experience at time and date . Would you by again?
They have been great since I put them on. Several trips with no problems. They did move on me as shown in the video but once I corrected the bolt issue they have been great. Thanks for watching!
Do you have a video up that has any comments on the performance of your dually gasser with that big camper on it? I watched one I really needed to see which is the PAYLOAD video, but I am struggling with the choice between the gasser and diesel motor. I will be driving all over the country and I do not want to have ANY regrets that the truck is not powerful enough to drive the hills/mountains of the country, BUT I really don't want the expense of the diesel or the cost. If you were full on retired, have a cargo/camper weight of about 4500 pounds or so, and driving all the different roadways out there... would you still pick the gasser? Thanks for anything you can offer on this subject.
I plan to do a video about hauling the camper later after I have more time with it. If you think you need a lot of power then a diesel may be the way to go. I’ve had both and so far the 7.3L has been great and handles our heavy camper just fine. But if you’re going through a lot of mountains then a diesel may be the way to go. It just depends on your needs. Thanks for watching!
Now that its been a few months, any problems with the airbags? Still working for you? I have had them on my Amazon list for awhile - thinking about pulling the trigger.
So far the airbags have been great with no problems. 👍
With our Northern lite I put about 30psi in them and they have worked well on our truck. With our Lance 1172 I had to put much higher psi in them due to that being a heavier camper.
@@RunawayRoses Thanks for the follow up, I ordered a set this morning. We are hauling a 2017 Cirrus 820 which scaled at 3000lbs and even with the Torklift suspension mods, the suspension on my F-350 needs more help.
The directions in the kit now reflect your installation changes. Nice job!
@@tomsimpson3790 Wow, I didn’t know they changed the instructions. That’s s good to hear they needed to be corrected in my opinion. Thanks for letting us know!
I seen these on Amazon do they leak? Oh those don't look right.
From the printing style on the box, they look Chinese made.
I hear the cam deal doesn’t happen around 40K and I don’t think you will keep anything that long .Ha Ha !!
I guess you liked the air bags since you removed them before selling the truck 😂
You guys don’t do anything small.
China clone airbags🤨🤨