STARLINK MINI - Watch BEFORE You Buy - In-Motion Speed Testing, Setup & Off Grid Power
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The Starlink Mini is now available to everyone. In this video Outdoor Auto test the new low power, extremely portable, satellite dish. We do in-motion tests with the starlink mini as well as stationary and even tests in tree cover to get to the bottom of whether or not this is the ultimate off-grid internet solution. We also cover the detailed specs as well as sort out some of the confusion around the Star link Mini Roam vs Regional plans as well as the potential for a Global plan.
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Ive worked on call for my job for 20 years, meaning i cant go out of cell phone coverage without risking my income, this changes everything, thanks for the breakdown, im ordering one now.. ✌️
I'm buying one of these because it took me almost 35 minutes to watch this video in 144p with my rural connection.
Update: I have my starlink roam and it has been working almostly flawlessly. I was having some uptime issues causing phone calls to drop, but I discovered mouting the device higher and off the ground fixed the issue. Still working on a POE solution since there doesn't seem to be one from starlink, but ive see tutorials of home made circuits. Will be trying them soon.
Definitely a “game changer” for those of us in rural USA. Welcome to the club
Thanks for creating this video and sharing your thoughts. I am a lucky person. In 2020, my firm let me work remotely and then let me work remotely permanently. This actually allowed me to work from anywhere. I'm dedicated to my job but there is also a world of adventure out there. Instead of re-inventing/re-discovering how to connect, this has been truly helpful.
That's awesome, when people really use remote work to its full benefit it an amazing thing.
When running it mobile, you did not have issues with the Wi-Fi signal penetrating the vehicle while being mounted? Have you tried setting the dish on your dashboard?
Also, super curious if the new global plan will support offshore use on a sailboat
@@youngfamilyfarms the maritime plan is pretty pricey, starlink knows when you're in the ocean and will act/charge accordingly
I run a business that I can't be disconnected from. This will work great for my short to weeklong camping trips to check in on things a few times a day. I especially like that I can buy data as needed.
Great Review, thank you! I am currently in the Cook Islands and our AirBnB recently installed Starlink, we fly here on Hawaiian Airlines, I am blown away at how great the coverage and quality of service is from Starlink. I am retired and we travel months at a time to remote places (Cook Islands, Africa, Eastern Europe, etc.) and internet connectivity is always an issue. I need to stay connected to pay bills, stay in touch with the children and grandchildren, etc. I am ordering this now for use when we travel. We do a lot of motorcycle trips and I love the form factor and small size, I can easlity take this on the motorcycle (we wil just need to pack less clothes). Thanks for taking the time to do all these tests.
Ok, I’ll probably surf too much while camping, but honestly this will free up places that I otherwise might not feel so safe. Also, on big road trips it sure is nice to be able to plot my travel online and research at night or in the morning while camped..not needing to drive into a town for service! I really want a cheaper unlimited package🙏🙏
Oh yes. Starlink Mini is nearly a miracle. I received my first version a week ago.
This was extremely helpful and thorough review. I was literally one click away from buying but needed more info on it's capabilities. This was exactly what I needed. Ordered! Thanks!
Just a warning to other Starlink users out there. Starlink has a program that lets you pause your remote Starlink service (the $150/month one) and restart it when you are again travelling. However, they are no longer allowing you to restart your old service. They are forcing everyone into a new plan that has data limits. Not exactly a pause and restart as they say.
I already have a StarLink Mini - as well as a regular StarLink at home. I live in rural New Mexico - and like you - I can only get really bad Internet services. So rooftop StarLink was a WONDERFUL thing. I'm a remote worker - and with this, I can work anywhere in the US (maybe in the world) - so rather than getting a couple of vacations a year when I can travel - suddenly, I can travel anywhere - all year round.
That said - my phone uses GoogleFi - and I can use it's WiFi hotspot feature to get Internet access from anywhere there's cellphone coverage...which is does work - but there are high data costs and the bandwidth is pretty terrible...so this is a quality/cost improvement - but not a TOTAL game changer.
I live full time in my minivan and am often in places with little to no internet. No room for big starlink setup, Very excited to learn about this. Now to save my pennies!
As someone who's looking to live on the road/off the road in the near future, I'm stoked to see it's tested so well.
I got mine for the purpose for emergency communication out in the sticks. We spend several weeks every year fishing up in the Sierras. several hours from any signals. This will be nice to have.
Very excited about this - I work part time (semi retired) but do have to attend about 5 or 6 Zoom calls per week. This is a game changer! We have been planning some longer road trips, and now I can commit. On the other hand, for fellow campers who use this so they can run their outdoor TV at top volume...please don't do that.
Thanks so much for this extremely helpful video.
Thanks for watching, glad it was helpful.
People can use it how they want brother
Omg this changes my life😢❤ I need at least 10 upload to work- the liberation I feel rn lol
This is kind of a game changer. We've started setting up starlinks for some our our folks that work in remote areas (power line construction). These mini's will allow them to be on a right away and still have Internet. Added benefit is they can make a wifi call where there is usually no Cell service. Important for safety reasons and Satellite phones at the moment are still Very expensive. Good detailed video.
My sat phone cost is identical, phone is 500, service in 100/month.. problem is no internet, so starlink wins , plus you don't need a seperate phone with starlink
I am ordering it to replace having internet at home and separate internet at my (own) office. This remote internet will follow me and will cost less than two separate plans, also allowing remote work. I realize I may have challenges getting signal in certain buildings, but maybe that will encourage me to work outside more often, weather permitting, or I'll just figure out what window to sit next to in each location. I will use the mini plan to be intentional about using the internet less often for better mental health. I like that it can be paused for months when internet is not wanted/needed. I am happy to get away from the big communications companies and appreciate this technological leap. Thanks for the good review!
I’m a mobile heavy equipment mechanic that does remote field work in forestry, mining and oil and gas industries all over western Canada, including northern regions. Lots of us have been bolting starlink dishes on our service trucks for a few years now, the performance is shocking. Connectivity in remote areas is a blessing for work, but the on highway performance is probably the most shocking. It’s good to see a more compact version might have performance potential for the same application.
Hey I'm also running in around Western Canada, owner operator hauling sand for frac. Trying to figure out about mounting this on my unit so my Question for you is, have you ran this thing while running up and down the highway while using Wi-Fi calling? How well does it work? And how are you powering the unit? Inverter?
Thanks for this info. Especially the Mini plan pause feature which Starlink doesn’t give details about
Thank you for this information. It made me want to buy it. I work remotely, but just part-time. So, it definitely won't ruin camping for me. I will only take it and use it when necessary. As a single woman traveling alone sometimes, it will also give me peace of mind that I have connectivity. :)
Going to purchase to mount on my UTV for mapping and safety and general internet in camp. Have had two long hikes following breakdowns out of cell coverage, this would be a game changer in remote safety.
Yes... this is a bit overlooked by a lot of people but is a huge deal.
This is cool. I've overheated my version 1 dish, it shut down and then restarted when it cooled down. This was once, on a stupidly hot cloudless day, in quite a few years of use on my roof.
I planning of working off grid as System support 8 hours a day, on the road while seeing the country. I think this will work great. I will be testing with my computer running online and my VOIP phone.
I bought the mini because there is a huge area I frequent that has no cell coverage of any kind. The mini is perfect for the wifi calls I can make or the other connections to the outside in an emergency.
What excites me about the system is that you could have it with you and if you have any emergency in a design area you’re able to get a hold of somebody quite easily
Absolutely, it is an excellent safety device.
This will provide communication when remote for increased safety. To reach out to Authorities if needed, emergency services and track weather or wildfires is always important to personal safety. I am considering this as well as the Gen 3. Star Mount provides mounts for ALL starlink products including the mini.
I'm considering it. I live in a rural area with minimal coverage. Thanks for your input.
Even since this video I have done a ton more testing… and only been more impressed
It's a pro for me. I'll be able to camp more with my gf since she needs to work remotely. Now she got no excuses.
For remote workers... this thing is a game changer.
Literally the most thorough and informative video ever! Just purchased. Thank you!
I ordered it yesterday. If I want to go off grid I won’t take it. Most times I like to stay connected. Thanks for the great information
I understand that... if nothing else it is a good thing to stow in case of emergency.
Trent Palmer has one of these mount in his bush plane I seem to remember the internet shut off at around 100MPH with the RV plan. I seem to remember he said that you can remove that limitation by paying for a higher package.
Received my Mini a couple days ago. Early retired and got this unit for RV travel. Was disappointed it would not power up on straight 12V RV power (13.2 volts lithium batteries). I have ordered a 12V to 24V DC booster to test for boondocking.
Get a shorter cable and it might work.
Do you think the gen 3 version will work on 12 volts
super helpful video, thank you. As for the heater to melt snow, there might not be a dedicated heater in this thing. the 25-40W it uses on a normal day might be enough to melt an inch of snow per hour. So this might be more a welcome side effect than a well-planned feature.
Great review. I’m from Australia and I do a great deal of travelling in the outback. Staying contact with family and friends. Safety. Heaps of positives. Definitely going to get one.
Best video for the mini I have seen yet.
Thanks... I was trying to cover a bit more of the actual specs...
Really appreciate the review. I purchased what is now the standard panel and have been really happy with my choice, but this version is certainly more portable. Well it ruin camping, for me I turn it on for a hour or so to check urgent emails and download a movie for the night, then I shut it down to enjoy being off-grid, I guess the choice is yours!
I am in Canada and everything here is at least 40% more than the USA, sometimes more, I only travel with my dog and he doe snot use internet so mobile is not needed, I'll review their plans but I do like the mini system, very well explained Thank you, I will have to move into my Van for my next chapter to live and my dog and hiking and traveling will take up most of my days as well as my photography but browsing the internet for entertainment is something I enjoy so looks like this system will be a good one for my use. I have herd of others and will look into them but it seems to me that Starling may be the best option but super expensive for Canadians
It’s interesting this can definitely bring a lot of fun to outdoor camping life! At least I know some friends who never liked camping because of no internet, the friend literally said “will join my camping trip if I can provide internet”. So more people can join the fun of camping trip, to many of those who might have never camped before
Sounds like they will be on their phone, tablet or laptop the whole trip...
Excited. I bought an off grid property in the mountains. Researching an inexpensive way to have internet & cell service.
I would definitely like to see your video about your mounting of the Starlink mini. Great video thanks. I just subscribed to your channel.
Also! Another comment from me!
I’m planning to use the Mini for my EV Mobile Charging unit! I wanna help out people and give them peace of mind in case they’re stranded in the middle of nowhere with no charge! That’s why I’m doing all this research! I’m gonna bring so much happiness to people
In order for me to charge up their EVs I have to be connected to WiFi!
Sold me on it. I had been considering it but your video put me at ease. I need to fab up a mounting solution as well. Thanks man.❤
If you end up with a good mounting solution please do share. Just ordered one and that's whats on my brain at the moment.
This is so cool, Im taking one of these to Black hills SD this weekend and plan on streaming my from my jeep.
Just received ours... Will use it for Search and Rescue missions.. Should be great!
I’m excited. I love to hunt but I don’t drink and get smashed while I’m out, so being able to stream movies in the evening with the family back at the camp will be fun.
Mine should be here tomorrow. I'm really looking forward to being able to have internet wherever if needed.
Awesome, enjoy... it really seems to work pretty good.
Starlink..gotta be most valuable company in da world.
Great review I'll subscribe..
Finally a field test video -- thanks! Every model has -30 to 50C temperature spec. Normal starlink: Gen2 actuated? Are jitter results comparable? What applications do you use that require greater than 7 Mbps? Rather than monitoring download speed, consider testing with VOIP or Facetime quality. I assume you tested with Mobile-Regional, indeed remarkable it works above 10mps spec -- expect that to change. Awesome work man. Cheers.
Excellent video. Yes, I’ll get one for residential emergency backup and also when camping.
We are considering a Mini. One of the things you did not mention is that if you have one of the Mini plans ($30 or $50), the dish will not work outside the country where it was activated. We live in the US and Starlink has confirmed that on the Mini plans, the dish will not work in Canada. If you have the Regional roaming plan with unlimited data, the dish will work in the entire region which includes Canada, US and Mexico.
Will the roaming plan work outside the US, if activated here, for let’s say if I go to another country not regional? Like Japan or France
@@Nor_a_Wanderer Based on what Starlink has communicated to me, it will only work within the region covered by your plan. Not sure what would happen if you moved and changed your address. I have heard that Starlink may be coming out with a global plan for the Mini, but have no idea if that is true or not.
@@celinabinns6185 Thanks for the info
I have a similar problem. I live in Canada and want to travel the USA. Lets see what they come up with for these situations. I'd like to get rid of our home provider but these RV plans seam limited??
@@rossstanley7786 Starlink updated their terms of service sometime in the last couple of weeks. It now appears that the mini plans will work in the continent of your service address rather than just the country, so if you have a Canadian service address, it should work fine in US and Mexico. Not sure if they are selling the Mini in Canada yet, but if they are you should be good. Just realize that 50gb isn’t a whole lot of data.
You sound like a Sesame Street character kinda. Dope!
Thanks for the temp range info. I live in the Mojave Desert (Vegas) temps in the direct sun here in the summer get 130 - 160 (per my IR digital therm) But, at least I don’t have to worry about clouds and trees
how do you make the wire go thru the car from outside to inside? Great Video! Very thorough!
Most trucks have plugs in the fire wall you can use to pass wires through… also most have a wire pass through in the rear cab… in this case I made a short (CZcams video) and realized the antenna works great just stuffed up in my sun roof - czcams.com/users/shorts0tggLLeuBDU?si=0cfa5gPq2kljSdpk
I like your real life testing and appreciate all of your useful information. Thanks for sharing.
Wow! What a superb video! I really enjoyed watching and listening to every step you went through - very clear and concise. After watching your video, I have ordered a Mini with the $50 plan because I mainly will use it for work when on a remote location. I do like the idea of having WiFi for the phone as well in the event of an emergency - but I'm not a fan of being glued to the phone, so the experience of connectivity will not harm my love and appreciation for the beautiful environment I will be visiting.
I have some questions regarding the Anker C1000:
1. Would you recommend having small solar panels for it? If so, how small of a panel would be sufficient to power it in the event that I stay longer than anticipated in a remote location? I have a small class B van (20 feet), so the storage is an issue - and rooftop area is limited.
2. Having said that, staying at a location for only a few days using a laptop off/on during the day and possibly to watch a Netflix movie at night, perhaps it'd not run out of power?
Your advice would be most appreciated. Thanks so much!
Yeah definitely thinking about getting one of these.
Hello Idaho. :). Thanks for the video. I have been avoiding this for my full time RV life internet due to the tree issue, but seems it isn't as much of an issue as I had originally thought. Thank you.
Really informative and thank you. To answer your question if will ruin camping or improve it, my thoughts are it will improve. Why, I am an adult and travel with professional people and we set aside specific times for virtual meetings during the day or specific meet times when we need to connect. This tech could reduce/eliminate the stress of finding a cell signal even with my directional antenna. I am not sure if this will help people who have heavier (24x7) usage requirements.
Definitely a game changer esp for campers cuz they dont have to mount starlinks and make holes in their vehicle. I've seen people just put this on their dashboard so it doesnt even have to be outside.
12:14 Typo in your text on the screen. Upload is spelled wrong.
Great content on the Mini. Thanks for taking the time to create this video.
I would love to use it to docustream exciting events while sailing the wide blue oceans !
I saw another youtuber livestream with his suction cupped to the inside of his glass tesla roof.
Oh boy… this changes the concept of camping as an “escape”
It's a double edge sword for sure
I got a question! Might sound dumb but just wanna get it out of my head!
Ok so! Let’s say you’re out there in the middle of nowhere! No reception and you wanna use your mini BUT! Can you set it up even if you aren’t connected to your provider’s internet OR you have to be close to your providers antenna in order for you to be able set it up on the starlink app?
You don't need some other connection to set it up.
Thank you for sharing this video!
Awesome device, great backup comms device.
I'm confused. USB provides 5v not 20v? If it requires 20v how can it be power by USB?
USB-c PD (Power Delivery) can pass higher voltages, the device tells the usb-c power source what voltages it can accept and the source supplies that. IIRC the voltages are 5v, 9v, 12v and 20v, this allows much higher wattages to be passed through the same cable.
It s a universally poorly understood thing... Its not really about "USB" its really about PD (power Delivery). SOME power sources support PD. Especially newer ones. Look for PD on the power source. A PD will also have a USB-c (the smaller connection). But as the other post said, it can deliver the voltage the unit is asking for.
Awesome review!! I have waiting for a more compact and lower power consumption starlink.
My SpaceX dish clocks in at 1.5 times broadband cable in my area. I'm 9 miles outside of St. Paul, MN on the boarder with Wisconsin. I was also impressed, but beings this is the outer suburbs I did expect Starlink to be fastest.
can you elaborate on this pausing service feature? Does a pause request start the very day of notice or a particular day of the week or the beginning of following month? What about un-pause? Say I have this and it's been paused 3 months and it is thursday middle of a month and I am going camping in 3 days, when I un-pause it when does service resume?
17:19 its not "super thick tree coverage" if you can see the sky from our pov on your dash the entire time...
Anyone know if you can switch between the $50/50gb plan and the $150/unlimited plan whenever you want?
Next to a test with video or app like netflix.. personaly i think thisnos great.. work remotly from any place, in touch with nature..
We are about to pull the trigger on the mini after watching several several video reviews. We will be full time and we'll need connection.
I just used mine driving through a super deep canyon surrounded by tall Pines and it was still pull 90 - 100mps.... this thing works really good
I am very excited to be able to work remotely from anywhere since I run my own company(s) I am always working and always off.
Thank you for all this detail I enjoy it and learned a lot and may by a mini for my travels
Great informative video, I am curious though. Assuming your on the regional $150/month plan While you were driving did you have to pay the extra fees for the in motion, over 10 mph, data usage outside of the unlimited in-land usage?
I'm curious, if when mounted to say the roof of a vehicle how much signal attenuation would you encounted if covered with 1/2" to 3/4" of plexiglass or armored glass as protection from hail or shrapnel or such?
Same question for a heavily forested area or during heavy cloud cover or weather? (
I am really hoping that it becomes available here in England 🏴? Would be the perfect thing for our campervan 🤞
what about cloud coverage? Are you using the starlink speed test or a 3rd prty speed test?
I’m assuming you have it on the add on 30$ plan to your main unit. Can you confirm it’s possible to pause that one ? Your the first I’ve heard that was an option. Which is awesome if that’s the case .
Yup mine is the Add on and the mini still shows the ability to be paused.
@@OutdoorAuto awesome! Now they just need to raise the data cap
I might use this for streaming movies while driving the interstates.
I have a feeling you are just joking. If not, I sure don’t want to be around you on the interstate when you lose focus on the road and other vehicles!😮😅 please please please nobody do that, although I’m sure it’s tempting to some. It is a real concern. I’m sure some will try and or actually do this.😢
@@ktngrandma1 Try to think of alternative meanings to the term driving? "I'm driving" and "driving" are not the same.
Communication is always key. This would make it easier to bring family members to the campsite.
I could see that... especially people that can remote work.
@@OutdoorAuto I am a hybrid worker myself. I have often thought that going camping while doing an after hours workday would be great.
Was the Starlink mini mounted inside your truck as you were traveling?
@@martimccann2301 yes 👍
I have one coming 👍
Awesome... I love mine.
@@OutdoorAuto going to use my moonroof to hide mine against the glass to try it
I work remote, if i got this, I could literally live out of my camping rig and just wheel and camp year round...now just need to convince my wife that camp showers are ok....
Good luck... I have never placed a high value on good showers but I find myself in the minority.
Can you use it from your dashboard? Great video Thanks
Probably buy your aim will be more severe so you will definitely have outages
I think it would make more sense to run it on usb c, it might be more efficient than running it off the big inverter on the Solex, then stepping it down with the brick before I go to the wire. Now I'm wishing that Solex, which I also had to 100 watt USB-C's. One for the laptop and one for the dish.
how does it work when you are driving if you are expected to self adjust it’s alignment?
You only need to adjust it to absolutely optimize your speed... it turns out it works really well even when it isn't optimized....
The router is inside the dish. If the dish is outside of the car, 10 meters away from the car, how good is the wifi inside the car which is covered by metal. Have you tested this? Would be good to know if you work inside a camper van (metal one like mercedes sprinter)
Did matches ruin camping? No. It just makes it easier and more people will be able to camp, now. It's a win/win.
You said that is a “156 watt hour unit” and you’re saying it can run the dish for 16 hours. Are you suggesting that the dish is drawing less than 10w on average? Or is it likely that you meant to say 1056 watt hour unit? In that case you’re suggesting that it draws 66 watts continuous.
Either way there is no continuity in your claims.
I want to get one for work when I go on longer trips
Oh my goodness LOL. This thing is melting snow. Not because it gets warm. But because it admits Microwaves. It's cooking the snow. Not by much. But it's still, cooking, the snow. Oh my goodness LOL. This thing is dangerous! I love it! I want one! And I shall be getting one. This sounds like the way to go for Nomads like me. Much better than the big one. This is why I wait and watch. With new product releases. Until they work it out. Perfect it. Refine it. I'm not in a hurry. I'm an engineer. Now retired.
So I like this. And manual positioning? No problem. I like that also. I like doing it. Enough with all of the automatic crap. We used to know how to do things. We should still, do things. So younger people will see. How to do, things. Before everybody forgets how.
And can still be mounted on a pole. Voilà!
But at that 122° or something Mark of heat. That's right. You don't use it on a sunny day in the desert. You wait for the evening. Darn. Sorry. Unless you want to blow it up? That's what they mean by no hotter than. The components will fail within. And you will be up the creek without a paddle. I meet you will be up the creek without a panel. Both. So don't do that. I'm an engineer. I'm telling you. Not to do that. On a hot sunny day in the desert. It won't survive that. Neither, will you. If left outdoors on a hot sunny day in the desert. You won't fare any better. Treat it like a little puppy.
And do not think for a minute. You can use a generic lower-cost power supply. Why? Because from this review. He said. The plug-in power supply feels kind of heavy for its size. That's right. That means. It has a little power transformer within. It's not a computer switching power supply. That is direct coupled, to anything. Like a generic power supply would be. That's featherlight. And you will blow it up. It doesn't like that kind of power. It doesn't want transistor switching, power. It wants linear transformer, power. That's with that review said to me. As a retired engineer. Of, Electronic Stuff. And dealing with both linear and switching, power supplies. That's why it's heavy. It has a small iron core within. And transistors weigh nothing. Like a few grains of sand. Because they are.
Oh I'm all for this thing. The Regional Plan makes sense. And then you can also drop your Cellular Service. You will not be needing that. As you can just get a Magic Jack. With an area code of your choice. For the region of the USA. You would like people to think you are calling from. To your cellular phone via Wi-Fi. And so even capable while driving. Or, not. Maybe more, not? But that's why you have a cheap low cost, backup cell phone. The costs, next to nothing. As your emergency redundant, source. Say when the weather gets bad. As microwaves are also like lights. And if you can't see through something? Neither can light or microwaves. And well? It drops out. You can lose it for hours if not days. And so having a cellular backup is a good idea. Like having solar panels and/or generator to charge your batteries. In your motorhome. As one without the other is a losing proposition. And having a 3 way. Is, a lot more, fun.
There is nothing wrong with your television set. We are controlling the picture.
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I want one for my teardrop but I only use it maybe 10 times a year. Wonder if I can pause the plan for those long periods of time?
I will get excited when the pricing becomes reasonable.
hi! i hope you try connecting more than 10 devices and try streaming and browsing see if it's throttle the disc wifi router...
other than initial costs i think it is awesome.... 🤠
Goal zero A/C portable pack has a 100w type C that can run this
That’s the ticket!
I would be curious how this works in mountain areas with lots of pine trees around on both sides. My High Performance Dish performs pretty well, even when camped under a canopy of aspens and pine trees. Also the concerning aspect is the charge for in-motion data. Does the $150/mo plan change for all dishes to use in-motion data now? I have the high performance dish and use the $150/month roam plan and haven't been charged for in-motion. The nice thing about the High Performance Dish is the router is able to give signal on the move to 3-4 vehicles over a 1/4 range and also for our vehicles at camp that are spread out. It uses a lot more juice though and that's the major drawback for the High Performance Dish.
I was just talking to @RevereOverland, he has that dish... his one complaint was at times it just drains his batteries too much.
very helpful , Thank you