I come back to this video every few years, first hearing this around 2008 and here I am in 2019, thank the Lord. Whoever is reading this comment, whether in a few months or many years down the road, or anywhere in between , if you are in the Lord, may He bless you, and may we meet in heaven, if the Lord wills. :)
@@Edwardlawpurple OK, what is the name of that 3-part sermon? I went onto his website, looked up Luke 9:23-26 on his website, read the entire sermon, and I did not see any mention of Rick Warren. So, can someone give me the actual title of the sermon this You Tube is from?
I thank God for you and Alister Begg for standing firm in proclaiming the gospel of our Lord Jesus. I just found out about Paul Washer. Now, the three of you are in my daily prayers.
John MacArthur is completely right! Right after I got saved, I started going to this bible study that eventually became a church. It was a word of faith church, unfortunately and it literally destroyed me as far as my Christian faith and walk were concerned. Everyone, I can't say strongly enough, to beware of anyone who preaches a feel good message. Go back and read all the words of Jesus. None of them make you feel good. But all of them are spoken to make you truly free from sin.
Until you realize that you have to ACCEPT HIS INTERPRETATION in order to be "saved". He's a Narcissist that assumes that HIS interpretation is the ONLY true Interpretation.
I always thought and believed Jesus is the truth...His word shall never pass away...not a man...not JM or any one " nothing but truth?"...only Christ . HIS WORDS
We love Johhny Mac. May God continue to lead him, in the food He wants us to eat. Ephesians 4:13 13 until we all attain to (A)the unity of the faith, and of the [a](B)knowledge of the Son of God, to a (C)mature man, to the measure of the stature [b]which belongs to the (D)fullness of Christ.
Actually there IS a way to find out who God chose to save. The people that have received Christ by embracing him, cherishing him, seeing him as majestic, those are the people who are the elect. Those same people will produce good fruit in the form of changed lives conforming to Christ. That's how you know who God elected to salvation by examining your life and seeing if it matches up with how the Bible describes a Christian.
The purpose driven life Teachers the opposite concepts to what Jesus directions for us. We can do nothing of ourselves it's only thru Christ can we do all things. Take up your cross and follow me. Lord you have to lead me on, if you don't I won't be able to follow I am your child all that I have is what you gave to me, all that I give to you is what you have given me. ..I recall in psalm 51 David said Lord open thou my lips and my mouth shall show forth thy praise?
I love the doctrines of grace and don’t shy away from the label “Calvinist.” I believe in the sovereignty of God. I’m convinced Scripture teaches that God is completely sovereign not only in salvation (effectually calling and granting faith to those whom He chooses); but also in every detail of the outworking of Providence. “Whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified” (Romans 8:30).
Amen ...thank you for this message..I have been posting scripture on various apostate pastors messages...God bless and thank you for exposing these false teachers of the Anti- Christ
No one is saying people who have peace and joy are not genuine followers of Christ. But often time the reason given for coming to Christ is joy and happiness. Joy, happiness, peace, a better relationship, ...etc. is not the reason to come to Christ. I think most people who come to Christ with those motives are not Christians. They are false believers who profess their faith without posessing it. Fact is, if the church preached more and entertained less they would be out and never return, IMHO.
I really appreciate Pastor MacArthur identifying what it is about Rick Warren and his Purpose Driven Life that is offensive. When I have tried to read this book it has been similar to reading The Watchtower magazine. It's an experience where you know there is something wrong here, but you can't exactly identify what it is. It seems like a slippery message. I suspect that Mr. Warren meant well when he wrote this book, but I don't think that he is a man that we should be listening to.
Take a listen of an interview John Piper had with Rick Warren on the book. Rick Warren did even write the book for unbelievers. and explains why he didn't go to into depth with the Gospel and certain topics. He was assuming the person reading the book already had knowledge of basic fundaments. czcams.com/video/LImVHzy7WtU/video.html
Our Father, which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name. Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, As it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, As we forgive them that trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, The power, and the glory, For ever and ever. Amen.
Denial of self means dying of your flesh and it's desires and living in the spirit. Leaning wholly on the Holy Spirit to guide you and transform you into the image of Christ. The word of God is pretty clear that this life is not what we should putting all of our focus on, but a eternal existence with God. While we are here on earth we need to share the Gospel and our personal testimony of faith, so others will be pointed to the cross. Jesus as our perfect example died in the flesh so we would die of our flesh. What we gain here on earth means nothing except that we were obedient to glorify him by loving God and loving people. But that word love has a lot of depth and is not always the feel good message. Christ's love, mercy, suffering is our example of our Christian walk. We are inevitably saved only by grace through our faith and that faith will produce our fruit and the works that come with walking with God and living in the spirit.
@TamilianPonnu So, was Paul in sin for calling out Hymenaeus and Philetus publicly by name in 2 Timothy 2:17-18? Was John wrong to publicly rebuke Diotrephes in 3 John 7? (Remember that the epistles would be read aloud to the entire church congregation.) What about the prophets in the Old Testament who would say to the false prophets publicly and to their face that they were idolatrous? Was Jesus sinning by insulting Herod in Luke 13:32, or His twice physically attacking the money-changers?
Of course, basically it's not about us, it's about God. After salvation, what's next? We are all part of one body and we each have our purpose within that body. "For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do." We each need to be encouraged that there is kingdom work for us to do. If we are to truly follow Christ, we need to be always looking to the Father for direction, just as Jesus did, for we can do nothing without Him. ≈
Amen. So many have believed that "Love your neighbor as yourself" are two commandments, one to love your neighbor and two to love yourself. Nope! Nowhere in scripture is found a commandment to love oneself. 2 Timothy 3:2 makes it clear that the love of self is evil. One cannot deny oneself, as explained in this video and love oneself as many of today's pastors and authors declare.
For more on this look up the study yourself: On Grace to you.org. It won't let me post a web address. He has 8 parts completely explaining his theological stance and don't let the title throw you. He is worth reading and doesn't let you "not understand" once you've read it. I'm currently going to a Baptist Church but I have no allegiance to any other than the Church Body in whole. God bless.
Are you talking about John MacArthur? If Calvinism believers are heretics, then I guess I'm a heretic! I love Reformed Theology. To THAT God, the God that is 100 % responsible for my salvation. That's the God I worship. I don't want credit for ANY of my salvation. I'd rather give praise for the decision I made to my Lord, than for someone to think that I myself am responsible for the decision. God gets more glory that way.
@TamilianPonnu Besides, you're being critical of me/Todd Friel/John MacArthur because we are critical of false teaching. Isn't that a little bit hypocritical and self-contradictory?
I think u might be taking what he was saying, out of context. John Mac Arthur knows we r saved by grace and not works. He was just clearifying that when you come 2 a relationship w/ JC it will not be an easy road, it will become harder. Rom 10:9 once you've TRULY(heart) done this, it's done. Santification hurts, but there is a peace and joy that comes from the H S, that only a believer can understand. The more wisdom u recieve from the Lord, the less u feel u need in this world anyway=)G Bls!
Greg Settle, have you read "Rom 8:21-30 " For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified." Could it not be anymore clear. Your great problem is that you want to believe in yourself and your will. You want to be in control, not God.
+Jonathan Carter Were You wanting Him to joyfully address false theology? You are the sort of person who Satan has firmly tucked away in the bottom of His hip pocket.
if I have to earn my salvation by 'following Jesus' Christ died for nothing. Being a child of God entails right living if God's spirit lives within you.
isnt the bible not accurate. like current versions are actually what people would read. similair but not the same. or is it all translated properly???????
I read some of Warren's purpose driven whatnot many years ago. It began by saying that the universe is not about us, but about God. That God is the center of everything. So I don't know why Warren has been so criticized.
self denial is nothing else but crucifying your sinful impulses and desires. And that is a lot of a thing. listen to more of his sermons, he is no wrong. Jesus, Paul, and so many others tell us what that means. Self denial, along with other issues, are, yes, at the heart of being a christian. Being a Christian= being like Christ, who did not His own will, but he always did God's will.
@greensatva In addition to that, good works must still be seen in a Christian's life because that is a MANIFESTATION of their faith. (Matthew 7:16 "You will know them by their fruits..") And these fruits are found in Galatians 5:22-23 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, meekness, self-control; against such there is no law." Therefore it is important to have good works. But always keep in mind that these WILL NOT save a person..
I understand your point, and I am sure you are only feeling that way out of a genuine care and concern. BUt what you have got to remember is that we are called, in scripture, to rebuke false teaching and to rejoice in truth. If we do not discern truth from even mildly watered down truth, we open the door for apostacy. Now I am not saying that every time John MacArthur speaks it is from the mouth of God, believe me, I am not catholic, and Mac is not my pope! :)
ALL I KNOW IS JESUS SAID THAT FEW FIND THE NARROW ROAD TO LIFE AND MANY FIND THE WIDE PATH TO DESTRUCTION. THESE ARE THE END TIMES. EXAMINE YOURSELF AND BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS.
i only read a few lines of the purpose driven life but what i can remember is it talked about finding out what Gods purpose was for your life and simply living it out nothing more or nothing less. If these cats like MacArthur and some of these other self appointed gospel police would simply sit down and talk with those they accuse of heresy maybe things would be more clearly understood
Dave as someone said about Job, if God blesses John MacArthur what is that to you or me. John never asks for money, Grace to You is listener supported. I would be very careful about how treat God's Word.
Don't forget the parts about hating your mother and father and hate yourself. Can you imagine a popular book with this terrible message of self loathing and total immersion in guilt.
I am not affirming everything he taught, and I’m not condoning everything he did. I’m convinced Calvin was a godly man and one of the finest biblical expositors and theological minds ever, but he wasn’t always right. As a matter of fact, my own convictions are baptistic, so I am by no means one of Calvin’s devoted followers. In other words, when I accept the label “Calvinist,” it’s only for convenience’s sake. I’m not saying “I am of Calvin” in the Corinthian sense.
I've followed John MacArthur since 1988; I have also read the purpose driven life. My take away from the book was that the purpose of life is to live in a way that glorifies Jesus Christ by making Him the center of how you live. Maybe I just didn't grasp the "man centered" nature of the book but I walked away with the message that living a Christ centered life is your purpose in life. I have read other books that I've felt were not Christ centered, most recently, "Jesus, the God who knows your name" by Max Lucado.
And He makes “all things work together for good to those who love God, [i.e.,] to those who are the called according to His purpose” (Romans 8:28). Quite simply, He “works all things according to the counsel of His will” (Ephesians 1:11). That’s what people commonly mean when they speak of “Calvinism.” When I accept that label, I am not pledging allegiance to the man John Calvin.
People cannot accept the fact they are not saved because they examine themselves and sin nothing but sin. People like the ones who oppose every biblical preacher. Their itching ears cannot handle the plain truth presented in scripture. That cannot accept the words of Jesus. Follow me and take up your cross. No, they would rather believe a lie and live in sin and false doctrine because they are in love with their sin. It truly makes me sad to see so many deceived.
Oh get out of here. John Mac teaches scripture, and God has allowed Him some prosperity. So I guess you probably think Job was not a Godly man either, huh?
I'm here to see if there is outright heresy in the book or if it's ok to read the book if you already have solid knowledge of the Word and are reading the book with a grain of salt.
regarding John MacArthur...a man that has this aspect straight but how does he go so wrong with eschatology? in reference to the 'mark of the beast'???
11 years ago Friel called Rick Warren out on an incomplete bible, now it appears because MacArthur has been partnering up with Warren, (look it up) Friel defends Warren's theology, mentioning the parts Warren has correct to excuse his false heretical beliefs. The gospel hasn't changed, Rick Warren hasn't tightened up his doctrine, if anything it's gotten more ecumenical... so what's different now from 11 years ago Todd?
Just read the book of John, read it carefully thinking about each verse. And then come back and tell me if calvinism is heresy. Bottom line, even if you disagree with it, you cannot deny that there are many passages in scripture that would lead one to accept the doctrines of grace (calvinism). I hate the word calvinism. I'd prefer to be known as being Reformed.
Many different scriptures, some are referring to becoming a Christian, and some are referring as to the qualification of a disciple. The word "Disciple" has interchangeable meanings. It can mean follower or it can mean teacher, of which holds more responsibility. To whom much is given, much is also required. A good number of fundamentalist Baptist leaders claim practically or altogether the Pentacostal or Assemblies of God churches worldwide is a false church, of which is ridiculous. McArthur primarily believes this, but not altogether. He also generally believes Billy Graham is a false teacher. Obviously one has to figure out the interpretation of scripture for themselves.
People don't want to do their homework and would rely on a quickly written one liner and expect you to believe and if you do then it's your fault. A good Berean should always do their own checking, don't even believe John MacArthur outright - check it out to make sure it is so. Acts 17:11 Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.
Holy Spirit Help our infirmities. I even ask Holy Spirit should I ask for what is the best thing for me to ask the Father, you know His will for me. For I know not what to ask for or how to pray. Guys don't forget to put on your armour every day and be aware constantly in case it slips.
The purpose driven life is a great book who teaches us what's the purpose God has for our lives. We are made for God and to glorify him. So what's wrong with this book???? JMA didn't explain what content of this book has problem. JMA seems to enjoy scolding evangelical Christians.
In Jesus day "Taking up your cross" meant death - that is die to yourself - self denial all sin comes from Denial all sin from original sin to all sin / Jesus came as our slave their was no self in Jesus that is why he lived the perfect life Take up your cross has nothing to do with works
Besides any body knows this scripture Jer 29:11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end. This scripture screams of purpose
This is what happens when you have private interpretation of scripture. Nonetheless Johns take on the prosperity Gospel however, while somewhat exaggerated should be heeded.
@TamilianPonnu Jesus in Matthew 23:33 & John The Baptist in Luke 3:7; addresses the teachers of religious law as snakes, sons of vipers, & brood of vipers. For teaching false doctrine keeping the people away from the true glory of God for their own personal gain. We are to Judge righteously-John 7:24, & identify fruit-Matthew 7:15-20. We are to hold our preachers & teachers accountable to scripture. Type in false prophets exposed here on you tube, & you will see alot of them on your channel.
Rick Warren has come out and made the claim that Muslims and Christians worship the same God. This is clearly false as we worship Jesus and the Muslims consider Jesus a mere prophet. If I were you I would not trust the teaching of this man Rick Warren
Do you know why people love Rick Warren? Because he comes across as a caring person. I have listened to both for years. Rick always teaches truth. He just does it in a practical way. Rick Warren shows people how the Bible is practical to their every day lives. He preaches sin. He has preached hell. He preaches purity. John MacArthur spends his sermons focused on attacking other people who are trying to help people.
and what happened to all the gospels that people would read. there were over 20 but only four were chosen. a bit confusing and too much politics involved. for instance the bible was created but ungodly man who don't care about what God thinks.
John doesn't preach a "works" Salvation but he does preach that good works are as a result of Salvation which is what God's Word says in Ephesians 2:8-10www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2%3A8-10&version=KJV
my point is allot of those guys spend all there time policing all these other preachers like the whole prosperity message MacArthur attacks like crazy right in the middle of his own millionaire status they need to forget all that grab hold of there congregations and a truck load of gospel tracts and go out and win souls
The Lord has provided men like John MacArthur to present clear truth. Of course, if he is being greatly used by God equipping the saints then of course the false converts will come and attack with vengeance. This proves that JM is presenting the truth. The choice of words these people use and the arrogance with the prideful sarcasm is sickening. The enemy is always out to cause division and confusion. That is what I see in people like Greg Settle. Lord help him.
If your going by "just what someone else wrote" then your not doing him or yourself justice. I always do my own research and don't trust anyone on any site to "Tell" me what to believe. Since the words "Have to be few" I'll explain in several blocks and you research for yourself as all good Bible Bereans should. John MacArthur Quotes: Why I Am a Calvinist, Part 1 and why every Christian is a Calvinist of sorts. John CalvinPart I: Is Arminianism damnable heresy? (cont)
I attended his church at one time in my life and I know that what you say is not what is the truth. John MacArthur walks the talk more than any other preacher I can name. He doesn't even preach on tithing, actually he preaches against it! You don't know anything and what he wears has nothing to do with what is in his heart. He loves the gospel and he loves you, you should give him the benefit of the doubt and listen to his messages not make such accusations without having first hand knowledge.
@TamilianPonnu 2 Timothy 4:3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths. It is sad that people put their faith in these teachers. Do your own research, & hold your teachers up to scripture & see if they make the grade. That's what God wants you to do!
The real Jesus is revealed in the bible. Get one and read it. The best thing to do is let Jesus tell you about Himself. Don't listen to anyone on TV or even the internet until you've have become well grounded in the gospel written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Once you have studied the gospel, and just allowed the bible to speak for itself, you will have a much better ability to know the genuine from the counterfeit. Jesus also said you must be born again to know Him.
RickW1100 please do not post this again about John MacArthur (Matt. 7:15). He is a true man of God who is preaching and teaching the truth. You need to read the Bible.
Sandy Van Asch That's JMac's faulty theology. Not mine. That's at the heart of the false doctrine known as calvinism, which JMac promotes. Take it up w/ him, not me.
rickw1100 ''I found God and you're stupid?'' It that the way christians are suppose to talk?? MacArthur teaches ONLY what Scripture says, he never comes with an argument which is not based on Scripture. And we all should know that Scripture is like a Two edged Sword. And the problem with so many others is that they're bringing a men-centered gospel... And especially Rick Warren is one who makes it unsharp by saying that we should not say things that scares off people. The Bilble scares off people to... But are they really prepared to submit themselves to the WHOLE truth of scripture?
It's hard to take MacAuthur serious because he believes that one is made alive Spiritually/Regenerated before one hears the gospel of our salvation when Ephesians 1:13; Galatians 3:2; Acts 10-11, etc. instantiate that receiving the Holy Spirit happens AFTER HEARING THE MESSAGE ABOUT JESUS CHRIST (where faith actually comes from according to Romans 10:17). CALVINISMS 9 points actually-not 5-POINTS called TULIP, contradict CLEAR, PLAIN LANGUAGE DOCTRINES. 1) Calvinisms DEFINITION OF SOVEREIGN, which teaches that mankind does not have the ability to choose to follow after His will or run contrary to it- see Jeremiah 7:31, 19:5, 32:35 and chaptor 18 2) MITICULOUS DETERMINISM teaches that God decides EVERY SINGLE thought word and action that every person will think say and do- see same Jeremiah verses- 3) A SECRET WILL OF GOD is created to try to remove God from being guilty of sin for CAUSING EVERY SINGLE SIN EVER COMMITTED 4-8 5-POINTS called TULIP, which ABSOLUTELY REQUIRE THE FIRST 3 AS THE FOUNDATION OF THE 5-POINTS CALLED TULIP 9) a FALSE GRACE to try to explain how one can profess to be saved and not really be saved. For a fuller refutation of CALVINISM go to "atoolboxforthebodyofchrist.com" According to God's breathed words Calvinism is insidious and easily refuted from GENESIS TO REVELATION with plain language in plain context. John MacArthur teaches Calvinism.
And Calvinism just happens to align with the scripture. Your only will is to sin. Non man comes to Jesus unless the father draws him. You are dead in your sin blinded by Satan. Dead man cannot respond. You believe because God willed it.
@greensatva I am here to correct you. there is no works here. picking your cross is the same as saying , if you are not willing to go into the gas chamber for my sake. the cross is an insturument of death. and by being a christian you are saying "it is no longer i who live, but it is Jesus who lives in me." by being a christian is dying to yourself.
If he is a Calvinist (as some of the other commentators claim) then he is in error. Personally, though, I think about it all from a more basic standpoint: Is he "saying" this because what he says reflects how he lives his life & acts. . . or is he only a "do as I say but not as I do" pastor who is taking a gamble with the idea that he can capitalize on Bible-believing Christians who have been disenfranchised by the Purpose Driven churches and henceforth is preaching a message appealing to them.
No, I don't believe calvinism is heresy. I do believe God elected before the earth those who would come to him. But you KNOW who God elected by their FRUIT. If know fruit is produced, they were never elected. If they never cherish Christ, they were never elected. Make sense?
I agree that Purpose Driven Life is misleading but. . . How many Christians actually practice what they preach? I wonder what John MacArthur's relationship with his family is like? - that is if he hates his wife and kids. I wonder what he lost "for Jesus"? - he seems to be well dressed and well fed in the picture... it doesn't look like he is poor. There are alot of pastors who will preach a message like this and then they'll say "give me 10% of your earnings and submit to me".
John MacArthur preaches Christ's Teaching not his and about hating his family, Jesus was teaching about not letting anyone or anything come before a relationship with Him.
Look man it has nothing to do with been good. so keep talking about u think been good is going to take you heaven, then Ur lying to yourself. Only Christ safe so keep lying to urself. and this is not for John macarthur. Im talking to this person with the lion profile pic. If ur a girl or a guy is you im talking to. so if you don't believe John Macarthur, then u don't love the truth. And if you dont trust any preacher, then idk what to say to you. And if ur looking for a real paster.
In as much as MacArthur is spot on with a Christ centered basis for spreading the Word, it is disingenuous to say Rick Warren is not (by inference) MacArthur is a bit on the side of "if you sin.......you were never saved" type of thinking . Yes, John preaches the gospel of salvation, and that is good . Warren is on the same page., yet I hear more of the GRACE of God from Warren than I do from John. Do I have a point? .Yes, its Christians seem to shoot their own a lot. (not good)
Ron Lopes did you read the pendulum of comments on this thread? (btw: a pendulum is a weight on a clock that swings from far right to far left and in perpetuity if the spring is wound. I realize such devices are ancient to most folks today ) I have no doubt I will also join the ranks of the embarrassed when I stand before the LORD , as will so many of the posters on this thread. I am grateful for the Blood of My LORD that covers my sin.....all my sins.
there is no doubt that Mc Arthur and Warren are brothers in Christ they were both Christians..Its just that Mc Arthur was given so much wisdom from above and Warren do not.There is an error with Warren it is simple God did not reveal to Warren what He revealed to Mc Arthur.There are teachers who God appointed and teachers who appointed them selves.That is why there is so much argument in the kingdom of God.And Jesus told us not to grumble among our selves.but this is a system and a business as i say no one can stop this exept Jesus Himself when He comes.Pease to all of us in the kingdom.
Henry Aguilar I cannot judge Warren, however if I look for the essence of the Gospel of Salvation within his widely popular book, (Purpose Driven Life) it is obviously missing. To write so much about "purpose' and not a thing of "1st base" I find extremely troubling. Warren has many things right, the Purpose Book is missing the key of Salvation's message. which includes understanding sin, repentance, and what "belief" in Christ entails eg: John 8:24 concerning his incarnate deity
Henry Aguilar I must also add, I am greatly disturbed that Warrens book, Purpose Driven Life Is by its title, about "purpose" and nothing is given in the book about the necessity of the doctrine of Salvation , the necessity of the Cross, why the Gospel writer John captures Jesus use of the word "belief" a manner essential to Salvation . Purpose is not the same as the Johns Gospel also know as the Gospel of Belief
Who’s purpose anyway ? The devils’ the self fulfillment, it is a purpose of going to hell. Be aware of the false doctrine. You can’t find purpose driven life in the Bible. It is a lie from hell.
+Henry Aguilar Amen -The truth of the Gospel and the Saving Grace of God cannot allow us to be in 'sinful' opposition to people but rather LOVING opposition out of a desperation for their souls.
Sorry to see that you have fallen for the wolves of the word faith movement. The exposure of the list of names you presented is old news. If you are a new believer, you need to do your own investigation into them all and be as the Bereans who searched the scriptures daily to confirm what you are being taught is the truth. I can assure you you that in due time and the Lord opning your eyes, you will see that these people teach a false gospel, another jesus, and another spirit that is not of God
God's Word is Scripture and that is what John MacArthur teaches, check it out. I am sorry but you are the one whose eyes need to be opened and I am saying out of concern.
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I come back to this video every few years, first hearing this around 2008 and here I am in 2019, thank the Lord. Whoever is reading this comment, whether in a few months or many years down the road, or anywhere in between , if you are in the Lord, may He bless you, and may we meet in heaven, if the Lord wills. :)
There’s an entire sermon from this which is taken. Actually I think 3 parts
Amen
@@Edwardlawpurple OK, what is the name of that 3-part sermon? I went onto his website, looked up Luke 9:23-26 on his website, read the entire sermon, and I did not see any mention of Rick Warren. So, can someone give me the actual title of the sermon this You Tube is from?
Pastor John, may our Lord Jesus Christ bless you and add many years into your life. Amen.
This man is speaking some pure word!
I thank God for you and Alister Begg for standing firm in proclaiming the gospel of our Lord Jesus. I just found out about Paul Washer. Now, the three of you are in my daily prayers.
Try David Wilkerson and Carter Conlon as well.
Jimmy Swaggert too.
@@timothyhollins6010 huh. Swaggart was a disgraced pastor
Add voddie to your list.
John MacArthur is completely right!
Right after I got saved, I started going to this bible study that eventually became a church. It was a word of faith church, unfortunately and it literally destroyed me as far as my Christian faith and walk were concerned. Everyone, I can't say strongly enough, to beware of anyone who preaches a feel good message. Go back and read all the words of Jesus. None of them make you feel good. But all of them are spoken to make you truly free from sin.
John is a true leader God Bless Him. We need true apologist like Him. He has served the Body of Christ well. He will have a Good reward.
John MacArthur is one of the most Godliest pastors alive today!!!
Until you realize that you have to ACCEPT HIS INTERPRETATION in order to be "saved". He's a Narcissist that assumes that HIS interpretation is the ONLY true Interpretation.
@@ZiplineShazam Can you give names of others you recommend?
John speaks nothing but the truth ! God bless him !
BLUE SKY AMEN
+BLUE SKY Amen
I always thought and believed Jesus is the truth...His word shall never pass away...not a man...not JM or any one " nothing but truth?"...only Christ . HIS WORDS
BLUE SKY join the club of John worrshippers
@@tsapp2831 no. Jesus worshippers
He is so right Thanks for the truth!!
We love Johhny Mac. May God continue to lead him, in the food He wants us to eat. Ephesians 4:13
13 until we all attain to (A)the unity of the faith, and of the [a](B)knowledge of the Son of God, to a (C)mature man, to the measure of the stature [b]which belongs to the (D)fullness of Christ.
John is a true leader God Bless Him. We need true apologist like Him.
You are 100% correct...excellent work God Bless
Please link for the full sermon...is really blessed me in following Him in times of massive charismatic sermons arround us. Regards from Indonesia.
..right in the heart..! :/ may we all be faithful to Lord, our God!
Actually there IS a way to find out who God chose to save. The people that have received Christ by embracing him, cherishing him, seeing him as majestic, those are the people who are the elect. Those same people will produce good fruit in the form of changed lives conforming to Christ. That's how you know who God elected to salvation by examining your life and seeing if it matches up with how the Bible describes a Christian.
The purpose driven life Teachers the opposite concepts to what Jesus directions for us. We can do nothing of ourselves it's only thru Christ can we do all things. Take up your cross and follow me. Lord you have to lead me on, if you don't I won't be able to follow I am your child all that I have is what you gave to me, all that I give to you is what you have given me. ..I recall in psalm 51 David said Lord open thou my lips and my mouth shall show forth thy praise?
I love the doctrines of grace and don’t shy away from the label “Calvinist.” I believe in the sovereignty of God. I’m convinced Scripture teaches that God is completely sovereign not only in salvation (effectually calling and granting faith to those whom He chooses); but also in every detail of the outworking of Providence. “Whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified” (Romans 8:30).
Thankyou
Amen ...thank you for this message..I have been posting scripture on various apostate pastors messages...God bless and thank you for exposing these false teachers of the Anti- Christ
OUCH.....this is a reality but boy does this make sense when I'm around family that are unsaved.
Amen
No one is saying people who have peace and joy are not genuine followers of Christ. But often time the reason given for coming to Christ is joy and happiness. Joy, happiness, peace, a better relationship, ...etc. is not the reason to come to Christ. I think most people who come to Christ with those motives are not Christians. They are false believers who profess their faith without posessing it. Fact is, if the church preached more and entertained less they would be out and never return, IMHO.
I really appreciate Pastor MacArthur identifying what it is about Rick Warren and his Purpose Driven Life that is offensive. When I have tried to read this book it has been similar to reading The Watchtower magazine. It's an experience where you know there is something wrong here, but you can't exactly identify what it is. It seems like a slippery message. I suspect that Mr. Warren meant well when he wrote this book, but I don't think that he is a man that we should be listening to.
Take a listen of an interview John Piper had with Rick Warren on the book. Rick Warren did even write the book for unbelievers. and explains why he didn't go to into depth with the Gospel and certain topics. He was assuming the person reading the book already had knowledge of basic fundaments.
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Our Father, which art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy Name.
Thy Kingdom come.
Thy will be done in earth,
As it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
As we forgive them that trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
But deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
The power, and the glory,
For ever and ever.
Amen.
Thanks, just wanted to clarify!
amen follow Jesus
Denial of self means dying of your flesh and it's desires and living in the spirit. Leaning wholly on the Holy Spirit to guide you and transform you into the image of Christ. The word of God is pretty clear that this life is not what we should putting all of our focus on, but a eternal existence with God. While we are here on earth we need to share the Gospel and our personal testimony of faith, so others will be pointed to the cross. Jesus as our perfect example died in the flesh so we would die of our flesh. What we gain here on earth means nothing except that we were obedient to glorify him by loving God and loving people. But that word love has a lot of depth and is not always the feel good message. Christ's love, mercy, suffering is our example of our Christian walk. We are inevitably saved only by grace through our faith and that faith will produce our fruit and the works that come with walking with God and living in the spirit.
And yet they decry when someone walks in the spirit saying “behold he walks in the flesh”. Terrible
@TamilianPonnu So, was Paul in sin for calling out Hymenaeus and Philetus publicly by name in 2 Timothy 2:17-18? Was John wrong to publicly rebuke Diotrephes in 3 John 7? (Remember that the epistles would be read aloud to the entire church congregation.)
What about the prophets in the Old Testament who would say to the false prophets publicly and to their face that they were idolatrous?
Was Jesus sinning by insulting Herod in Luke 13:32, or His twice physically attacking the money-changers?
Of course, basically it's not about us, it's about God. After salvation, what's next? We are all part of one body and we each have our purpose within that body. "For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do." We each need to be encouraged that there is kingdom work for us to do. If we are to truly follow Christ, we need to be always looking to the Father for direction, just as Jesus did, for we can do nothing without Him. ≈
Amen. So many have believed that "Love your neighbor as yourself" are two commandments, one to love your neighbor and two to love yourself. Nope! Nowhere in scripture is found a commandment to love oneself. 2 Timothy 3:2 makes it clear that the love of self is evil.
One cannot deny oneself, as explained in this video and love oneself as many of today's pastors and authors declare.
For more on this look up the study yourself: On Grace to you.org. It won't let me post a web address. He has 8 parts completely explaining his theological stance and don't let the title throw you. He is worth reading and doesn't let you "not understand" once you've read it. I'm currently going to a Baptist Church but I have no allegiance to any other than the Church Body in whole. God bless.
Todd Friel has COWARDLY removed the comment section from his "Wretched" videos in order to avoid trying to answer challenging questions or comments.
Totally agree. He slams everyone but unwilling to be held accountable himself.
What foolish people gave this video a thumbs-down?
Well supposedly that is the first sentence in Rick’s book. “It’s not about you.” But apparently the whole purpose driven lifestyle is all about you!
does anyone else here the voices in the background?
Yes, but the message I could still hear
Are you talking about John MacArthur?
If Calvinism believers are heretics, then I guess I'm a heretic! I love Reformed Theology. To THAT God, the God that is 100 % responsible for my salvation. That's the God I worship. I don't want credit for ANY of my salvation. I'd rather give praise for the decision I made to my Lord, than for someone to think that I myself am responsible for the decision. God gets more glory that way.
AMEN!!!!! Thank you for sharing.
@TamilianPonnu Besides, you're being critical of me/Todd Friel/John MacArthur because we are critical of false teaching. Isn't that a little bit hypocritical and self-contradictory?
I think u might be taking what he was saying, out of context. John Mac Arthur knows we r saved by grace and not works. He was just clearifying that when you come 2 a relationship w/ JC it will not be an easy road, it will become harder. Rom 10:9 once you've TRULY(heart) done this, it's done. Santification hurts, but there is a peace and joy that comes from the H S, that only a believer can understand. The more wisdom u recieve from the Lord, the less u feel u need in this world anyway=)G Bls!
Greg Settle, have you read "Rom 8:21-30 " For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified." Could it not be anymore clear. Your great problem is that you want to believe in yourself and your will. You want to be in control, not God.
why does he sound so angry?
+Jonathan Carter Were You wanting Him to joyfully address false theology?
You are the sort of person who Satan has firmly tucked away in the bottom of His hip pocket.
@ChrisHobeck yes it is
if I have to earn my salvation by 'following Jesus' Christ died for nothing. Being a child of God entails right living if God's spirit lives within you.
isnt the bible not accurate. like current versions are actually what people would read. similair but not the same. or is it all translated properly???????
I read some of Warren's purpose driven whatnot many years ago. It began by saying that the universe is not about us, but about God. That God is the center of everything. So I don't know why Warren has been so criticized.
@Strefanasha
1st John the epistle, all of it.
self denial is nothing else but crucifying your sinful impulses and desires. And that is a lot of a thing. listen to more of his sermons, he is no wrong. Jesus, Paul, and so many others tell us what that means. Self denial, along with other issues, are, yes, at the heart of being a christian. Being a Christian= being like Christ, who did not His own will, but he always did God's will.
@greensatva In addition to that, good works must still be seen in a Christian's life because that is a MANIFESTATION of their faith. (Matthew 7:16 "You will know them by their fruits..") And these fruits are found in Galatians 5:22-23 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, meekness, self-control; against such there is no law." Therefore it is important to have good works. But always keep in mind that these WILL NOT save a person..
he talks about self denial and self death ya right
you can't earn salvation. It is a free gift.
I understand your point, and I am sure you are only feeling that way out of a genuine care and concern. BUt what you have got to remember is that we are called, in scripture, to rebuke false teaching and to rejoice in truth. If we do not discern truth from even mildly watered down truth, we open the door for apostacy. Now I am not saying that every time John MacArthur speaks it is from the mouth of God, believe me, I am not catholic, and Mac is not my pope! :)
@TalkingDonkeyN22 There are many times when we are not holding the same diamond.
ALL I KNOW IS JESUS SAID THAT FEW FIND THE NARROW ROAD TO LIFE AND MANY FIND THE WIDE PATH TO DESTRUCTION. THESE ARE THE END TIMES. EXAMINE YOURSELF AND BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS.
i only read a few lines of the purpose driven life but what i can remember is it talked about finding out what Gods purpose was for your life and simply living it out nothing more or nothing less. If these cats like MacArthur and some of these other self appointed gospel police would simply sit down and talk with those they accuse of heresy maybe things would be more clearly understood
Dave as someone said about Job, if God blesses John MacArthur what is that to you or me. John never asks for money, Grace to You is listener supported. I would be very careful about how treat God's Word.
Don't forget the parts about hating your mother and father and hate yourself. Can you imagine a popular book with this terrible message of self loathing and total immersion in guilt.
I am not affirming everything he taught, and I’m not condoning everything he did. I’m convinced Calvin was a godly man and one of the finest biblical expositors and theological minds ever, but he wasn’t always right. As a matter of fact, my own convictions are baptistic, so I am by no means one of Calvin’s devoted followers. In other words, when I accept the label “Calvinist,” it’s only for convenience’s sake. I’m not saying “I am of Calvin” in the Corinthian sense.
I've followed John MacArthur since 1988; I have also read the purpose driven life. My take away from the book was that the purpose of life is to live in a way that glorifies Jesus Christ by making Him the center of how you live. Maybe I just didn't grasp the "man centered" nature of the book but I walked away with the message that living a Christ centered life is your purpose in life. I have read other books that I've felt were not Christ centered, most recently, "Jesus, the God who knows your name" by Max Lucado.
And He makes “all things work together for good to those who love God, [i.e.,] to those who are the called according to His purpose” (Romans 8:28). Quite simply, He “works all things according to the counsel of His will” (Ephesians 1:11). That’s what people commonly mean when they speak of “Calvinism.” When I accept that label, I am not pledging allegiance to the man John Calvin.
People cannot accept the fact they are not saved because they examine themselves and sin nothing but sin. People like the ones who oppose every biblical preacher. Their itching ears cannot handle the plain truth presented in scripture. That cannot accept the words of Jesus. Follow me and take up your cross. No, they would rather believe a lie and live in sin and false doctrine because they are in love with their sin. It truly makes me sad to see so many deceived.
Oh get out of here. John Mac teaches scripture, and God has allowed Him some prosperity. So I guess you probably think Job was not a Godly man either, huh?
I'm here to see if there is outright heresy in the book or if it's ok to read the book if you already have solid knowledge of the Word and are reading the book with a grain of salt.
regarding John MacArthur...a man that has this aspect straight but how does he go so wrong with eschatology? in reference to the 'mark of the beast'???
11 years ago Friel called Rick Warren out on an incomplete bible, now it appears because MacArthur has been partnering up with Warren, (look it up) Friel defends Warren's theology, mentioning the parts Warren has correct to excuse his false heretical beliefs. The gospel hasn't changed, Rick Warren hasn't tightened up his doctrine, if anything it's gotten more ecumenical... so what's different now from 11 years ago Todd?
Just read the book of John, read it carefully thinking about each verse. And then come back and tell me if calvinism is heresy.
Bottom line, even if you disagree with it, you cannot deny that there are many passages in scripture that would lead one to accept the doctrines of grace (calvinism).
I hate the word calvinism. I'd prefer to be known as being Reformed.
Many different scriptures, some are referring to becoming a Christian, and some are referring as to the qualification of a disciple. The word "Disciple" has interchangeable meanings. It can mean follower or it can mean teacher, of which holds more responsibility. To whom much is given, much is also required. A good number of fundamentalist Baptist leaders claim practically or altogether the Pentacostal or Assemblies of God churches worldwide is a false church, of which is ridiculous. McArthur primarily believes this, but not altogether. He also generally believes Billy Graham is a false teacher. Obviously one has to figure out the interpretation of scripture for themselves.
Todd Friel says that the book PDL is a "me-first" book. Has Todd Friel read the first sentence of the book? Can he quote it to me?
If you are a saved believer, and you cannot see it by now, pray for your eyes to be opened. "It isn't about you". Wish Warren would get his own words.
People don't want to do their homework and would rely on a quickly written one liner and expect you to believe and if you do then it's your fault. A good Berean should always do their own checking, don't even believe John MacArthur outright - check it out to make sure it is so. Acts 17:11 Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.
Holy Spirit Help our infirmities. I even ask Holy Spirit should I ask for what is the best thing for me to ask the Father, you know His will for me. For I know not what to ask for or how to pray. Guys don't forget to put on your armour every day and be aware constantly in case it slips.
The purpose driven life is a great book who teaches us what's the purpose God has for our lives. We are made for God and to glorify him. So what's wrong with this book???? JMA didn't explain what content of this book has problem. JMA seems to enjoy scolding evangelical Christians.
So it is not a necessary part of being born again to forsake all your sin?
Well said. I've said before, that I bet he and other Pastors are glad their congregants are prospering. After all, that's how salaries are paid.
way to totally take that out of context.
In Jesus day "Taking up your cross" meant death - that is die to yourself - self denial all sin comes from Denial all sin from original sin to all sin / Jesus came as our slave their was no self in Jesus that is why he lived the perfect life
Take up your cross has nothing to do with works
Besides any body knows this scripture
Jer 29:11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end. This scripture screams of purpose
This is what happens when you have private interpretation of scripture. Nonetheless Johns take on the prosperity Gospel however, while somewhat exaggerated should be heeded.
@TamilianPonnu Jesus in Matthew 23:33 & John The Baptist in Luke 3:7; addresses the teachers of religious law as snakes, sons of vipers, & brood of vipers. For teaching false doctrine keeping the people away from the true glory of God for their own personal gain. We are to Judge righteously-John 7:24, & identify fruit-Matthew 7:15-20. We are to hold our preachers & teachers accountable to scripture. Type in false prophets exposed here on you tube, & you will see alot of them on your channel.
Rick Warren has come out and made the claim that Muslims and Christians worship the same God. This is clearly false as we worship Jesus and the Muslims consider Jesus a mere prophet. If I were you I would not trust the teaching of this man Rick Warren
That are right words, but as being 14 million net worth pastor does he know what he is talking about?
anybody heard the subliminal track behind.
Do you know why people love Rick Warren? Because he comes across as a caring person. I have listened to both for years. Rick always teaches truth. He just does it in a practical way. Rick Warren shows people how the Bible is practical to their every day lives. He preaches sin. He has preached hell. He preaches purity. John MacArthur spends his sermons focused on attacking other people who are trying to help people.
and what happened to all the gospels that people would read. there were over 20 but only four were chosen. a bit confusing and too much politics involved. for instance the bible was created but ungodly man who don't care about what God thinks.
this guy is a legalist, WORKS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WIth SALVATION. but you will know them by their fruit.
John doesn't preach a "works" Salvation but he does preach that good works are as a result of Salvation which is what God's Word says in Ephesians 2:8-10www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2%3A8-10&version=KJV
my point is allot of those guys spend all there time policing all these other preachers like the whole prosperity message MacArthur attacks like crazy right in the middle of his own millionaire status they need to forget all that grab hold of there congregations and a truck load of gospel tracts and go out and win souls
The Lord has provided men like John MacArthur to present clear truth. Of course, if he is being greatly used by God equipping the saints then of course the false converts will come and attack with vengeance. This proves that JM is presenting the truth. The choice of words these people use and the arrogance with the prideful sarcasm is sickening. The enemy is always out to cause division and confusion. That is what I see in people like Greg Settle. Lord help him.
If your going by "just what someone else wrote" then your not doing him or yourself justice. I always do my own research and don't trust anyone on any site to "Tell" me what to believe. Since the words "Have to be few" I'll explain in several blocks and you research for yourself as all good Bible Bereans should. John MacArthur Quotes: Why I Am a Calvinist, Part 1 and why every Christian is a Calvinist of sorts. John CalvinPart I: Is Arminianism damnable heresy? (cont)
I attended his church at one time in my life and I know that what you say is not what is the truth. John MacArthur walks the talk more than any other preacher I can name. He doesn't even preach on tithing, actually he preaches against it! You don't know anything and what he wears has nothing to do with what is in his heart. He loves the gospel and he loves you, you should give him the benefit of the doubt and listen to his messages not make such accusations without having first hand knowledge.
@TamilianPonnu 2 Timothy 4:3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
It is sad that people put their faith in these teachers. Do your own research, & hold your teachers up to scripture & see if they make the grade. That's what God wants you to do!
The real Jesus is revealed in the bible. Get one and read it. The best thing to do is let Jesus tell you about Himself. Don't listen to anyone on TV or even the internet until you've have become well grounded in the gospel written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
Once you have studied the gospel, and just allowed the bible to speak for itself, you will have a much better ability to know the genuine from the counterfeit. Jesus also said you must be born again to know Him.
RickW1100 please do not post this again about John MacArthur (Matt. 7:15). He is a true man of God who is preaching and teaching the truth. You need to read the Bible.
JMac teaches Jesus enjoys sending people to hell. How can you say Mac is a "true man of God"?
filoll: Just quit saying such ugly things that are false. Are you a Christian? Doesn't sound like it.
Sandy Van Asch That's JMac's faulty theology. Not mine. That's at the heart of the false doctrine known as calvinism, which JMac promotes. Take it up w/ him, not me.
rickw1100 ''I found God and you're stupid?'' It that the way christians are suppose to talk?? MacArthur teaches ONLY what Scripture says, he never comes with an argument which is not based on Scripture. And we all should know that Scripture is like a Two edged Sword. And the problem with so many others is that they're bringing a men-centered gospel... And especially Rick Warren is one who makes it unsharp by saying that we should not say things that scares off people. The Bilble scares off people to... But are they really prepared to submit themselves to the WHOLE truth of scripture?
rickw1100 I just scrolled down and the only thing I see from you is poison... pity.
It's hard to take MacAuthur serious because he believes that one is made alive Spiritually/Regenerated before one hears the gospel of our salvation when Ephesians 1:13; Galatians 3:2; Acts 10-11, etc. instantiate that receiving the Holy Spirit happens AFTER HEARING THE MESSAGE ABOUT JESUS CHRIST (where faith actually comes from according to Romans 10:17). CALVINISMS 9 points actually-not 5-POINTS called TULIP, contradict CLEAR, PLAIN LANGUAGE DOCTRINES. 1) Calvinisms DEFINITION OF SOVEREIGN, which teaches that mankind does not have the ability to choose to follow after His will or run contrary to it- see Jeremiah 7:31, 19:5, 32:35 and chaptor 18 2) MITICULOUS DETERMINISM teaches that God decides EVERY SINGLE thought word and action that every person will think say and do- see same Jeremiah verses- 3) A SECRET WILL OF GOD is created to try to remove God from being guilty of sin for CAUSING EVERY SINGLE SIN EVER COMMITTED 4-8 5-POINTS called TULIP, which ABSOLUTELY REQUIRE THE FIRST 3 AS THE FOUNDATION OF THE 5-POINTS CALLED TULIP 9) a FALSE GRACE to try to explain how one can profess to be saved and not really be saved. For a fuller refutation of CALVINISM go to "atoolboxforthebodyofchrist.com" According to God's breathed words Calvinism is insidious and easily refuted from GENESIS TO REVELATION with plain language in plain context. John MacArthur teaches Calvinism.
And Calvinism just happens to align with the scripture. Your only will is to sin. Non man comes to Jesus unless the father draws him. You are dead in your sin blinded by Satan. Dead man cannot respond. You believe because God willed it.
@greensatva I am here to correct you. there is no works here. picking your cross is the same as saying , if you are not willing to go into the gas chamber for my sake. the cross is an insturument of death. and by being a christian you are saying "it is no longer i who live, but it is Jesus who lives in me." by being a christian is dying to yourself.
Amen I believe that is Galatians 2:20
If he is a Calvinist (as some of the other commentators claim) then he is in error.
Personally, though, I think about it all from a more basic standpoint: Is he "saying" this because what he says reflects how he lives his life & acts. . . or is he only a "do as I say but not as I do" pastor who is taking a gamble with the idea that he can capitalize on Bible-believing Christians who have been disenfranchised by the Purpose Driven churches and henceforth is preaching a message appealing to them.
John MacArthur is preaching God's Word and he stresses obedience to God's Word.
No, I don't believe calvinism is heresy. I do believe God elected before the earth those who would come to him. But you KNOW who God elected by their FRUIT. If know fruit is produced, they were never elected. If they never cherish Christ, they were never elected. Make sense?
I agree that Purpose Driven Life is misleading but. . .
How many Christians actually practice what they preach? I wonder what John MacArthur's relationship with his family is like? - that is if he hates his wife and kids.
I wonder what he lost "for Jesus"? - he seems to be well dressed and well fed in the picture... it doesn't look like he is poor.
There are alot of pastors who will preach a message like this and then they'll say "give me 10% of your earnings and submit to me".
John MacArthur preaches Christ's Teaching not his and about hating his family, Jesus was teaching about not letting anyone or anything come before a relationship with Him.
"know" should be "no", sorry lol.
Look man it has nothing to do with been good. so keep talking about u think been good is going to take you heaven, then Ur lying to yourself. Only Christ safe so keep lying to urself. and this is not for John macarthur. Im talking to this person with the lion profile pic. If ur a girl or a guy is you im talking to. so if you don't believe John Macarthur, then u don't love the truth. And if you dont trust any preacher, then idk what to say to you. And if ur looking for a real paster.
In as much as MacArthur is spot on with a Christ centered basis for spreading the
Word, it is disingenuous to say Rick Warren is not (by inference)
MacArthur is a bit on the side of "if you sin.......you were never saved" type of thinking . Yes, John preaches the gospel of salvation, and that is good .
Warren is on the same page., yet I hear more of the GRACE of God from Warren
than I do from John.
Do I have a point? .Yes, its Christians seem to shoot their own a lot. (not good)
Ron Lopes
did you read the pendulum of comments on this thread? (btw: a pendulum is a weight on a clock that swings from far right to far left and in perpetuity if the spring is wound. I realize such devices are ancient to most folks today )
I have no doubt I will also join the ranks of the embarrassed when I stand before the LORD , as will so many of the posters on this thread. I am grateful for the Blood of My LORD that covers my sin.....all my sins.
there is no doubt that Mc Arthur and Warren are brothers in Christ they were both Christians..Its just that Mc Arthur was given so much wisdom from above and Warren do not.There is an error with Warren it is simple God did not reveal to Warren what He revealed to Mc Arthur.There are teachers who God appointed and teachers who appointed them selves.That is why there is so much argument in the kingdom of God.And Jesus told us not to grumble among our selves.but this is a system and a business as i say no one can stop this exept Jesus Himself when He comes.Pease to all of us in the kingdom.
Henry Aguilar
I cannot judge Warren, however if I look for the essence of the Gospel of Salvation within his widely popular book, (Purpose Driven Life) it is obviously missing. To write so much about "purpose' and not a thing of "1st base" I find extremely troubling.
Warren has many things right, the Purpose Book is missing the key of Salvation's
message. which includes understanding sin, repentance, and what "belief" in
Christ entails eg: John 8:24 concerning his incarnate deity
Henry Aguilar
I must also add, I am greatly disturbed that Warrens book, Purpose Driven Life Is by its title, about "purpose" and nothing is given in the book about the necessity of the doctrine of Salvation , the necessity of the Cross, why the Gospel writer John captures Jesus use of the word "belief" a manner essential to Salvation . Purpose is not the same as the Johns Gospel also know as the Gospel of Belief
Who’s purpose anyway ? The devils’ the self fulfillment, it is a purpose of going to hell. Be aware of the false doctrine. You can’t find purpose driven life in the Bible. It is a lie from hell.
AMEN!
Because someone had to Show this "Emergent Church" And FALSE TEACHER and FALSE Prophet for what it is.
We don't like these kind of preachers and messages. cz we need comfort and wealth.
HA HA HA HA..
Henry Aguilar Catholics are pagans
yeah i know..but i was once a pagan granted grace by the father.let us pray for those pagans there time is not yet come.
+Henry Aguilar Amen -The truth of the Gospel and the Saving Grace of God cannot allow us to be in 'sinful' opposition to people but rather LOVING opposition out of a desperation for their souls.
Sorry to see that you have fallen for the wolves of the word faith movement. The exposure of the list of names you presented is old news. If you are a new believer, you need to do your own investigation into them all and be as the Bereans who searched the scriptures daily to confirm what you are being taught is the truth. I can assure you you that in due time and the Lord opning your eyes, you will see that these people teach a false gospel, another jesus, and another spirit that is not of God
God's Word is Scripture and that is what John MacArthur teaches, check it out. I am sorry but you are the one whose eyes need to be opened and I am saying out of concern.
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