The Boys: TRAUMA

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  • čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
  • I may not always love you
    But long as there are stars above you
    You never need to doubt it
    I'll make you so sure about it
    God only knows what I'd be without you
    If you should ever leave me
    Though life would still go on, believe me
    The world could show nothing to me
    So what good would living do me
    God only knows what I'd be without you
    God only knows what I'd be without you
    If you should ever leave me
    Though life would still go on, believe me
    The world could show nothing to me
    So what good would living do me
    God only knows what I'd be without you
    God only knows what I'd be without you
    God only knows what I'd be without you
    God only knows what I'd be without you
    God only knows what I'd be without you (God only knows)
    God only knows what I'd be without you (what I'd be without you)
    God only knows what I'd be without you (God only knows)
    God only knows what I'd be without you (what I'd be without you)
    God only knows what I'd be without you (God only knows)
    God only knows what I'd be without you (what I'd be without you)
    God only knows what I'd be without you (God only knows)
    God only knows what I'd be without you (what I'd be without you)
    God only knows what I'd be without you
    || CONTENTS ||
    0:00 - Introduction: Garth Ennis
    2:50 - Season 1: Superheroes vs Media Power
    4:42 - Defining Trauma and the Boys
    8:33 - Homelander
    11:14 - Season 2: Healing Wounds
    14:13 - Stormfront, Homelander and the Boys
    18:32 - Media effects as trauma
    21:29 - "Undercover Vampire Policeman" by Chris Zabriskie
    23:08 - Final Thoughts
    23:50 - Credits
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Komentáře • 803

  • @ImplicitlyPretentious
    @ImplicitlyPretentious  Před 2 lety +1136

    This video should've been out last week, but I literally rewrote and re-arranged 80% of it so there'd be a stronger emphasis on trauma.... 🤪

    • @cooperchappell8310
      @cooperchappell8310 Před 2 lety +4

      can you make a video on the lord of the rings trilogy or the 90s animated spider man show also great content

    • @ImplicitlyPretentious
      @ImplicitlyPretentious  Před 2 lety +18

      @@cooperchappell8310 I'm not really a fantasy person unless it takes a deconstructivist approach and I had plans for the 90s Spider-Man show, but I really want this current season of Spidey essays to be mainly focused on Stan Lee's work, so it probably won't happen any time soon.

    • @cooperchappell8310
      @cooperchappell8310 Před 2 lety +8

      @@ImplicitlyPretentious ok and thanks for responding excited to see the rest of your spidey essays i've been enjoying them.

    • @Wizard_Pikachu
      @Wizard_Pikachu Před 2 lety +2

      You're giving me trauma over trauma. Lovely.

    • @admiralthrawnbar4899
      @admiralthrawnbar4899 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ImplicitlyPretentious But think of the trauma angles!

  • @SherlocksLeftNipple
    @SherlocksLeftNipple Před 2 lety +6437

    Kripke really said "I made Supernatural, which is about boys with superhero-like plot armor healing from trauma, killing god, and moving on. Now, let me make the exact freaking opposite." and then he did.

    • @heitoroliveira5166
      @heitoroliveira5166 Před 2 lety +329

      I didn't know this guy mad Supernatural. Now i want to watch the show for the first time i my life.

    • @maddniarslan
      @maddniarslan Před 2 lety +161

      He’s such a good show runner. Knows when to step away too so I have faith he will conclude this series nicely.

    • @leviroch
      @leviroch Před 2 lety +208

      I fucking love supernatural. . . But yeh, TECHNICALLY it ended in season 5. . . And then it just got batshit fucking insane. . . And I still loved every second of it. It's like bayformers, I KNOW it's abysmal shite, but I still love it

    • @moxiemaxie3543
      @moxiemaxie3543 Před 2 lety +22

      The show is also about moving on from trauma not the opposite

    • @steve6997
      @steve6997 Před 2 lety +2

      @@brucesnow7125 whats supernatural about

  • @willsith9762
    @willsith9762 Před rokem +1871

    The thing I love most about The Boys is that no matter how violent or vulgar it gets, it's also pretty genuine and sweet. For every super hero Nazi or Superman with a mommy kink, there's Kimiko and Frenchie having a dance number or Annie and Hughie bowling.

    • @kingol4801
      @kingol4801 Před rokem

      Because that is the whole point of the show - powers and acts (even something as “taboo”/seen as evil as killing) are neutral in nature.
      It is more so that they are defined by circumstances and causality.
      If you were to process people though indoctrinated celebrity-fest (where people are treated like products to be sold) by a monopolies, corrupt, late-stage capitalism company - you get mud.
      If you let people be people, you can see the shimmers of their humanity, regardless of just how dire their circumstances can be.
      Outside influence matter. People are defined by their environment a lot more than they want to admit - but all we are is a product of our exposure to interests, and our personality traits (humor, wittiness etc) are just by-products of social circle and media we consume as well.
      Boys depict one very simple truth - people CAN be good individually, but tend to be grotesque collectively.
      Powers are just a metaphor, in a sense.
      But showing powers having a direct result, physical, tangible result is a lot easier than trying to map the ability of one person to affect their environment and others. It is more digestible and a lot less difficult to mistake.
      I assume given how little an average fan of this movie comprehends about this underlying (albeit obvious) moral message, if “The Boys” was written not about metahumans but about people with influence/power….. people would 100% miss the intended meaning and resort to political mumbo jumbo (siding with one side, and their treating all of their acts as good without thinking, since you are in a direct opposition with another group and people have cavemen mentality of trying to belong to a group, especially groups tied by beliefs).

    • @maxthescarecrow4038
      @maxthescarecrow4038 Před rokem +90

      Cynical but with a heart.
      It's what I enjoyed about Peacemaker as well. I thought The Boys would be a parade of cynicism (seeing how it's a violent adaptation of Garth Ennis' work) but I was actually surprised by the amount of hopeful and human moments.

    • @Yougotcaged102
      @Yougotcaged102 Před rokem +38

      Homelander is surprisingly a contributor to both of these traits. A disgusting, vile monster with such a tragic life that you can still almost feel sorry for him

    • @YOURWORLDSAFANTASY
      @YOURWORLDSAFANTASY Před 11 měsíci +12

      ​@@maxthescarecrow4038 Being cynic and human at the same time is good. Its impossible for a perfect balance, but it is good to feel the good and the bad.

    • @cameronscott1219
      @cameronscott1219 Před 11 měsíci +14

      Sounds like real life. There’s absolute horror in the world. But life can have its highlights.

  • @moxiemaxie3543
    @moxiemaxie3543 Před 2 lety +1576

    When the show is better than the comics. Allowing it to have the character development that was never given in the book

  • @yeet7043
    @yeet7043 Před rokem +87

    "make the world bleed, so their own blood will make sense" is way too raw of a line

  • @raincat2692
    @raincat2692 Před 2 lety +3979

    When I watched how Stormfront explained how she hires others to make memes and sway the public to Homelander I genuinely felt a shiver down my spine. I think younger people like me feel like they can see through companies and media quite easily, we're usually not the target audience and when we are it feels so obvious we can't help but laugh about it. We feel safe on the internet because we grew up with it as part of our lives, how many posts are there about the absurdly specialised language memes and internet culture is becoming?
    We feel as if all these companies and governments couldn't possibly trick us in our own domain, so when I heard Stormfront explain, I heard how easily she was doing it, I felt horror, because I realized they can. They absolutely can and we haven't noticed, and that is fucking terrifying.

    • @mikehunt3420
      @mikehunt3420 Před 2 lety +12

      They dont need to trick us when they can trick all the 35+ crowd. Then they raise their kids in the bullshit and the process repeats. First it was talk radio now multiple media facets

    • @YouAreStillNotablaze
      @YouAreStillNotablaze Před 2 lety +275

      The big challenge is to stop pointing fingers outwards at "them" in the 'media' and government and look in the mirror. People aren't being 'tricked', they trick themselves because that's what they want.

    • @magnifcently_shai
      @magnifcently_shai Před 2 lety +97

      Yeah it literally starts with a meme, first you like leafyishere, then you move on to FilthyFrank, slowly and slowly radicalizing you as you grow up. It's a pipeline and it was always there were just getting older and realizing and for some it's too late

    • @YouAreStillNotablaze
      @YouAreStillNotablaze Před 2 lety +211

      @@magnifcently_shai FilthyFrank didn't radicalize anyone.

    • @robadob55
      @robadob55 Před 2 lety +1

      @@mikehunt3420 if you believe that delusion you already lost the war my friend. They will absolutely trick you and likely already have. Both sides of congress and businesses all do it. It’s not just one sided

  • @elgenialbap
    @elgenialbap Před 2 lety +3571

    I like the show more than the comics, and is simple 'cause it approaches the supers with respect and simpathy; while the comic goes into full cynism, just points a finger at something in the superheroes media and says "this why I hated this." Parody and Cynism are easy to make, but making something with respect while making a commentary about the genre (like the tv series), requires much more work... I still like the comics, but I prefer the show.

    • @thewerewolff7248
      @thewerewolff7248 Před 2 lety +250

      Yeah I agree. The comic feels a lot more mean spirited and spiteful towards superheroes whereas the show feels likes it’s more just trying to do a “realistic” take on what superheroes would be in our real life, imperfect world.
      I think something that shows this in particular is that in the comic pretty much every single superhero is extremely incompetent at being superheroes to the point they all come across as the biggest idiots that could possibly exist. Whereas in the show whist some of them are incompetent (like the deep) in general they do come across as highly capable when they’re trying to be.

    • @ImplicitlyPretentious
      @ImplicitlyPretentious  Před 2 lety +489

      I sort of treat them as 2 seperate things now, cuz the comics are so deeply tied to Garth Ennis' personality and British humour (particularly 80s counter culture), while the show is so American and tuned to modern concerns that they fill out 2 totally different moods! :)

    • @unavela
      @unavela Před 2 lety +34

      That's bc the author openly hates superheroes, so yeah, it's a bit of a unload

    • @actuallySHRIKE
      @actuallySHRIKE Před 2 lety +3

      Did you finish it though? Then goes around and turns that entire concept you are talking about on its head with Hugie taking over

    • @elgenialbap
      @elgenialbap Před 2 lety +1

      @@actuallySHRIKEthe tv series or the books?

  • @higaiwokeru
    @higaiwokeru Před rokem +1008

    I think I hate Stormfront more than Homelander because she represents what I hate the most of the Internet (twitter)
    that people won’t make their own opinions, that people won’t do their own research and just let misinformation guide their lives because they want to appear as good people rather than being good people
    and when it turns out that they are mistaken, they either won’t let it down or act like no harm was done.
    and when a person turns out to be a vile piece of shit, you see people defending it and people that “care” they forget in the span of a fucking week or less.
    when Homelander killed a boy in Africa, the mainstream media forgot in one or two days because Stormfront knows the media game, making memes and echo chambers to make the issue become more and more insignificant and irrelevant

    • @antokarman2064
      @antokarman2064 Před rokem +40

      After watching his the invincible and the boys videos, i wonder, do people as a collective can also feel shame that they become defensive when they are confronted about their controversial take? Also i feel that stormfront is much more scarier because she also have the backing of a huge company to alter the tide of opinion of the mass. It's quite realistic

    • @pearlngozi2818
      @pearlngozi2818 Před rokem +13

      Which country? Africa is a continent. Let's be more specific.

    • @serious_g
      @serious_g Před rokem +75

      @@pearlngozi2818 It's a damn show, mate

    • @user-su7bv4lo7u
      @user-su7bv4lo7u Před rokem

      The real enemy in the end is mainstream media. Delusional ppl who are easily decieved almost like they’re a lost cause.

    • @Volvith
      @Volvith Před rokem +49

      Okay, that's... Kind of almost funny.
      I hate Stormfront for pretty much the polar inverse reason.
      She's the representation of the manipulation of mass media, of the death of argument and reflection, and the systematic annihilation of open discourse.
      I don't hate her because she represents the people, quite the opposite, i hate her because she exploits the people by playing them as tunes to her clarinet; Stormfront is the vile and insidious representation of all that twists and corrupts ideals into their most extreme and violent form, and enslaves the public with it.
      ...
      Two sides of the same coin i guess.
      Also, because of the way media is shaped these days, with upvotes and likes and shares, people don't want to be wrong anymore.
      To be wrong is weakness, to apologize apostasy.
      'Extreme reasoning leads to incorrect assumptions leads to more extreme reasoning to make up for the incorrectness because you were actually right after all.' type shit.
      The media plays the public like a fucking fiddle.
      Both ways, preferably at the same time to generate conflict if at all possible.
      'Incinerate the middle ground with nuclear hellfire, the middle ground is boring, extremes get clicks.'

  • @mikez4388
    @mikez4388 Před 2 lety +435

    I just saw Vought news earlier, and it's great to know that Black Noir is A-okay!

    • @mr.jameson218
      @mr.jameson218 Před rokem +10

      Hahaha, yeah...don't worry...still totally fine.

  • @nickshaffer80
    @nickshaffer80 Před 2 lety +444

    “say the magic words, Bart!”

  • @SylvesterAshcroft88
    @SylvesterAshcroft88 Před 2 lety +862

    I fricken love all the actor's in this show, which is something i can't say about every show, that isn't Man In The High Castle, or some kind of genre media show.

    • @uchihabomber1296
      @uchihabomber1296 Před 2 lety +21

      Honestly they were all perfectly chosen

    • @rileysmith7763
      @rileysmith7763 Před 2 lety +21

      Man in The High Castle had such violent highs and lows for acting

    • @homelander4375
      @homelander4375 Před 2 lety +19

      @@rileysmith7763 In my opinion the acting was pretty consistent, they just entirely fcked up the last season.

    • @GabesEdtiz
      @GabesEdtiz Před 2 lety +5

      @@homelander4375 ahhh, the Homelander. We gonna get to see you do some crazy shit in S3?

  • @annabellerobertson2380
    @annabellerobertson2380 Před rokem +294

    I love the moment where starlight replies to the comments on her addition with “I meant it” it shows from the get go how different she is and how rare it is for a genuine superhero in the world of the boys

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob Před rokem +23

      I loved it when she said she doesn't think hopeful should mean naïve. Since cynicism is actually easier - under the Seven Deadly Sins as originally defined, cynicism fell under the 'Sloth' umbrella, because it's a moral laziness. Being hopeful and optimistic is actually harder.

  • @aspen9326
    @aspen9326 Před 2 lety +300

    “Let the person who got hurt inside you die so someone new can grow” man that hit on a personal level

  • @Ali-bu6lo
    @Ali-bu6lo Před 2 lety +387

    8:58 I think eating babies wasn't Homelander's doing in the comics, but it was Black Noir whose a Homelander clone in the comic and is doing horrifying things wearing Homelander's uniform. And no, this isn't spoiler since we already know Black Noir is very likely African-American and played by Nathan Mitchell who we thought was just a stunt double.

    • @Nobody-zl3kk
      @Nobody-zl3kk Před rokem +10

      Yeah it is probably not to avoid spoilers for the show but to try and not spoil something found in the comic, when someone truly likes something and wants to convince people to engage with it, they try their best not to ruin any surprises, which is what i'm guessing he did here.

    • @thesnowmiser6728
      @thesnowmiser6728 Před rokem +7

      @@Nobody-zl3kk at that point I would just not bring it up though, as it simply doesn't apply to homelander's character outside of it gaslighting him.

    • @Nobody-zl3kk
      @Nobody-zl3kk Před rokem +2

      @@thesnowmiser6728 true

    • @Johnyakuza572
      @Johnyakuza572 Před rokem +9

      Canonically, it was so noir could do his one job (kill homelander) by driving him insane and making him do something

    • @jimperi8980
      @jimperi8980 Před rokem

      GOD these comics fucking suck

  • @petonchiospataponchio366
    @petonchiospataponchio366 Před rokem +182

    Welp, one season later and it turns out M.M. *does* have trauma, the pattern laid out holds up even more

    • @calebstultz2813
      @calebstultz2813 Před rokem +1

      Was just about to talk about this. Good catch!

    • @one-eyedghoul7542
      @one-eyedghoul7542 Před rokem +44

      M.M had kinda healed his wounds until the return of solider boy. The pattern continues

  • @taylorbeckett9686
    @taylorbeckett9686 Před rokem +166

    "Trauma is when an event is so painful and contradictory to your sense of safety and meaning that it creates a wound in your mind. A wound that you're always drawn to scratching ... Life after a traumatic event can often be defined as a test of how willing you are to live with your new skin, and if you can without yourself from reopening the old wounds."
    -Implicitly Pretentious

    • @marko6489
      @marko6489 Před 7 měsíci +4

      I strongly disagree with that. It suggests that trauma should be left alone, suppressed even further rather than dealt with. That is not letting go by any mean, but a misuse of the phrase. Trauma happens when something so overwhelming and unthinkable happens to a person in early years of development that the person can not deal with it and HAS TO put it aside so to speak. It is a survival mechanism. The point is to heal wounds later on in life as a full functional, better-equiped, wiser adult by revisiting the trauma. Exploring memories and emotions associated with trauma in a mature way, which in process rewrites meaning of what happened and heals the individual. The letting go part comes down to letting go off ego / identity that individual has built around trauma to escape it. THAT is difficult. You would be surprised how much of our identities and what we think we are is just an early, defensive response to most random situations.

  • @KayEnOhCoaly
    @KayEnOhCoaly Před rokem +65

    your writing is really compelling, i especially loved how you said “STARLIGHT becomes disenchanted…but maeve protects ANNIE”, very subtle but lots of nuance in that phrasing!

  • @robbymidgettofficial
    @robbymidgettofficial Před rokem +378

    As much as I love Ennis, his work does reek of edginess of the period of comic books it came out in. I think the show is more maturely written, though I have sincere love for the comics. I feel largely the same about Preacher as I do The Boys in this regard.

    • @Mad_Intalect
      @Mad_Intalect Před rokem +4

      No way...the Peacher comic is much better than the show for me, especially the "Saint of Killers." In the show he's not nearly as OP.

    • @bisexualmajima
      @bisexualmajima Před rokem

      different mediums and different purposes but still great tbh

    • @flashergoldpower15
      @flashergoldpower15 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@Mad_IntalectI feel different. For once, I like both the comic and show. While as to the boys, I wasn't feeling the comic, enjoyed the shit out of the show and the development it's got.

  • @MomJeans1738
    @MomJeans1738 Před rokem +475

    6:06 Watching this video after finishing the first half of season 3, and it's worrying how MM might lose so much progress in moving past his trauma due to the revelation that Soldier Boy is still alive. Great video, thank you for the thoughtful analysis!

    • @theradiantdehd3997
      @theradiantdehd3997 Před rokem +63

      It does make sense through. MM’s trauma was never healed, and that’s apparent through his OCD and relationship problems. That’s what makes his character so fascinating; He found successful ways to cope, but never healed the wound, and occasionally it gets prodded, leading him to become self destructive before starting to cope again. With Soldier Boy back in the picture, he has the ability to begin healing, but he now has to confront it, instead of ignoring it. It’s a brilliant take.

    • @simpskywalker7216
      @simpskywalker7216 Před rokem +15

      @@theradiantdehd3997 this, i noticed it after rewatching the clip where butcher told mm that a guy like him is wasting his talents in the therapy centre, where he wasn’t really making any progress. he was just avoiding facing his trauma which we can see in his outburst in s2 where he just couldn’t take it anymore. love how season 3 covers this in depth now that soldier boy’s back.

    • @MomJeans1738
      @MomJeans1738 Před rokem +6

      @@theradiantdehd3997 I never realized that until now, good point! It just goes to show that there is a difference between coping with your trauma and confronting it. It also goes to show that sometimes it's not obvious when someone is still in pain.

    • @MomJeans1738
      @MomJeans1738 Před rokem +7

      @@theradiantdehd3997 agreed, plus MM has some of the coolest t-shirts lol

  • @vysezen
    @vysezen Před 2 lety +736

    Damn I nearly teared up when you spoke about letting go of the you who hates, and trusting the support of the people who care about you to help move you forward. That hit me real deep. Deep stuff, Trauma boy.

  • @lucaspsm125
    @lucaspsm125 Před rokem +118

    It's interesting that you talked about Mother's Milk's trauma having healed because this is exactly what the 3rd season tackles head on, there's much to him that actually wasn't showing and he's still processing regarding Soldier Boy

    • @Guerrilla_Grodd
      @Guerrilla_Grodd Před rokem +5

      Exactly. His OCD and need for medication suggests he is more traumatised than anyone in The Boys

  • @jomeotrashgod1098
    @jomeotrashgod1098 Před 2 lety +203

    "He's got to make superman" what a brilliant way to put it I hadn't thought of it like that but it's spot on

  • @sladewilson9718
    @sladewilson9718 Před 11 měsíci +43

    The scene where homelander takes Ryan to a convention and sees him getting overwhelmed is so well done❤ It shows Homelander’s care for his son, but in a way that makes sense to his character. He sees himself in Ryan, his anxiety of the world, not Ryan’s fears

  • @kiratherenegade1561
    @kiratherenegade1561 Před rokem +49

    Cynicism is cynicism's sake gets old. It's why the show outshine the comic, it sprinkles in enough optimism & hope to give the cynicism real punch.

  • @rosecity_chris
    @rosecity_chris Před 2 lety +195

    I cannot wait for season 3. This show combines everything from comedy to fantasy to drama to action and does it all pretty damn well.

  • @AstonishingRed
    @AstonishingRed Před 2 lety +88

    Lol so no one is going to acknowledge that VideoGameDunkey jab? I died lol

  • @PlayingWithIssues
    @PlayingWithIssues Před rokem +67

    18:40 that shot at Dunkey was absolutely fantastic

  • @heitoroliveira5166
    @heitoroliveira5166 Před 2 lety +392

    I don't do therapy since the pandemic bcs i lost my intership on( imagine) a television newsroom. So The Boys was a show that hit me had because it reflects lots of the things i had to deal with every day and, like Starlight, a lot of times i saw myself trying to stay true to waht i think journalism and media should stand and was a really dificult and pain ride, even i knowing i would tray again the moment they offer me a chance. But concluding my point, your videos sometime feels like a therapy session to me. Your interpretation and analysis is really calm and relaxing and i almost always finished the video with a sense of joy and and confort about life. By the way, can't wait for Spider Man No Way Home video (y all know it's gona come)

    • @ImplicitlyPretentious
      @ImplicitlyPretentious  Před 2 lety +50

      Aww I hope you find peace and another opportunity! And thank you so much for the kind words, these videos are oddly cathartic to make for me too!

    • @mikesendec3972
      @mikesendec3972 Před rokem +2

      How were you challenged to stay true to your self as a journalist? Was just curious, because depending on your beliefs on one end there's no challenge and on the other end cancellation.

    • @ThomasMartin-wz4ry
      @ThomasMartin-wz4ry Před rokem

      @@mikesendec3972 Absolute fucking cringe.

    • @thinkinyblinko6666
      @thinkinyblinko6666 Před rokem +1

      Wtf does you losing an internship have to do with not going to therapy? Wtf?

    • @heitoroliveira5166
      @heitoroliveira5166 Před rokem +10

      @@thinkinyblinko6666 money, bro.

  • @JoeMama-tr5be
    @JoeMama-tr5be Před 2 lety +43

    On the surface this show is grotesque and gut wrenchingly tragic, while that maybe be true, as you really read into it you can see more and more that, that is what makes it so beautiful. It's disgustingly real, goddamn masterpiece.

  • @TheManKnownAsJJ
    @TheManKnownAsJJ Před 2 lety +55

    oh yeah another banger video!!!!!

  • @timmceown7646
    @timmceown7646 Před 2 lety +96

    Thanks for this. It was terribly astute and illuminating. You really managed to articulate the central themes in a way that crystallized a lot of half formed ideas I had roaming around my subconscious. It also illustrated why work like The Boys matters in a way that straight product/content does not. It has something to say that is actually worth hearing, and thinking about. Great work.

  • @witchdoctorstrong3734
    @witchdoctorstrong3734 Před 2 lety +26

    Ive been waiting so long to hear you talk about "The Boys"

    • @ImplicitlyPretentious
      @ImplicitlyPretentious  Před 2 lety +8

      Yeah I ended up binging the entire second season like 2 weeks ago, so I kinda had to do it!

  • @maddo7192
    @maddo7192 Před 2 lety +37

    Trauma is back 🙆‍♂️

  • @paperboy1116
    @paperboy1116 Před 2 lety +10

    Several weeks later, IP finally lands. Brilliant

  • @peterwowfan
    @peterwowfan Před rokem +26

    really interesting watching this while season 3 is airing because of you talking about MM's trauma and how he got through it only for the wound to open again in season 3

    • @DIRTYD33DSDON3DIRTCHEAP
      @DIRTYD33DSDON3DIRTCHEAP Před rokem +4

      spoilers for episode 6
      You could say that he does overcome that wound, putting aside his hatred to help the injured after the homlander vs soilder boy fight

  • @da__winnervv9750
    @da__winnervv9750 Před rokem +44

    Interesting how you say Mm is the one who overcame his trauma and in season three he loses that because it turns out soldier boy is still alive and this unhealthy lifestyle starts to consume him, I just think that’s really interesting

  • @Kiss_My_Aspergers
    @Kiss_My_Aspergers Před 2 lety +37

    Garth Ennis has great ideas, but his execution tends to kinda fall short imo.
    Like, his edgiest comic series, _Crossed,_ is a crazy interesting idea (and utterly terrifying), and like, his original comic is _okay,_ but it's the spin-offs that really take the series above and beyond, to what they *could* be. I LOVE +100 - unlike a lot of other readers, I actually really enjoyed the linguistic changes, because they felt like they made actual sense and sounded strangely natural. I could trace origins of certain words or phrases, recognize their malaphors for what they actually were, and so on. It made me wonder if the writers sought the help of a linguistics expert, maybe did a little etymological research of their own. As an aspie I was basically forced to adapt socially by parroting people smarter, funnier, and cooler than me, so I pick up speech patterns, slang, quirks, and even accents if exposed to them for long enough in one go. So I even picked up a quirk from the _+100_ series (there are two Plus-One-Hundreds. The base one, and _+100: Mimic._ The second is a much shorter stand-alone that takes place in the same time period). It's literally just saying "fuck" instead of "fucking", occasionally in ways that sound unnatural or silly. It's a small thing, but it's there. That doesn't happen for me with speech that sounds too dissimilar from regular English, so I feel like that says a lot.
    But... yeah. Despite it's silly, over-the-top edgelordiness, I ended up falling madly in love with _Crossed_ as a whole. I have SpookyRice to thank for that introduction.
    Trigger warnings for *LITERALLY EVERYTHING,* by the way, if you decide to read them. Don't say I didn't warn you. (Also one of the single most disturbing scenes in the series - including spin-offs - is also really awkwardly funny, and I kind of like that...? You'll know what I mean when you see it. If you see it. If you don't want to see too much you could just watch Spooky's summary videos of them instead. The stuff you REALLY can't show will be blurred out, so you may find that to be a viable option if you really don't want to skip it entirely.)
    Now I'd like to ask OP: Have you read the _Crossed_ comics and/or several or all of the series, and if so, what are your thoughts, oh wise ImP?

  • @Liquid278
    @Liquid278 Před rokem +5

    I love how unapologetic the show was, they did what many can’t and took the original content to a completely new level for better

  • @acenull0
    @acenull0 Před rokem +16

    LMAO when Starlight said "if Billy Butcher can do the right thing there has to be a higher power" I died cause literally everyone knows how ruthless Billy is. He's just as bad as Homelander imo but he's somewhat justified

    • @rebbyking2823
      @rebbyking2823 Před rokem +7

      I truly truly don't think he's as bad as HL

  • @SkatKat
    @SkatKat Před 2 lety +9

    Always the way you interpret shows makes me appreciate them even more. Thank you!

  • @matthewmishley8457
    @matthewmishley8457 Před rokem +8

    Your season 3 video led me here. I'm officially a fan and blown away by your ability to break down these themes to a molecular yet simple way that any decent minded individual can understand. I thought your kind was a dead breed. Keep up you're amazing talents. You have a future a bright one

  • @raquelavila8516
    @raquelavila8516 Před rokem +12

    This is a great essay. Love the description of trauma. The empathy for the characters that I hadn't seen before

  • @ananimal9779
    @ananimal9779 Před rokem +4

    In my Abnormal Psych class half my life ago, I learned that "trauma" is when someone is wounded by a psychological crisis without sufficient support. This is an interesting definition to me because it includes the possibility that we can both heal from a wound, and also the immense value of support in our lives. We CANNOT do this alone.

  • @baronvonslapnuts
    @baronvonslapnuts Před rokem +3

    This video essay is beautiful. Thank you for creating this.

  • @Mclovin.420.
    @Mclovin.420. Před rokem +7

    Something I've never seen anyone talk about is when starlight faces off against a train we see him seeing the world in slow motion which raises the question if he can dodge starlights blasts so easily and quickly how couldn't he do the same with robin

  • @dddghygfr6913
    @dddghygfr6913 Před rokem +3

    ''Stop scratching your wound and let it grow back"....what a great line...

  • @declanseefeld963
    @declanseefeld963 Před 2 lety +28

    Implicitly Traumatised, and I love it

  • @MyNameMeansPalm
    @MyNameMeansPalm Před 2 lety +19

    The west should really recognize manga and anime.

    • @nicdodge9979
      @nicdodge9979 Před 2 lety +8

      No

    • @fran9939
      @fran9939 Před 2 lety +3

      It has tho

    • @centricthemedic1517
      @centricthemedic1517 Před 2 lety +6

      It has. Manga consistently sells better than Comic Books.

    • @junkfire4554
      @junkfire4554 Před rokem +2

      It has. It's just that most manga/anime writing is autistic, cliché-riddled trash (and I've watched 70+ anime, so this isn't coming from an outsider who doesn't get it). Even the best only have tolerable writing, but the dialog is mostly inhuman cringe that I can only look past in certain moods.

  • @Fafuchess
    @Fafuchess Před rokem +3

    I just had to take a sec to say how astonished I am with what amazing things bach can to with just a couple of broken chords. Every time.

  • @TenaciousLeeTV
    @TenaciousLeeTV Před 2 lety +9

    I swear I love your channel more after each video. Keep up the outstanding work.

  • @kingkuro8317
    @kingkuro8317 Před 2 lety +35

    I remember someone told me Clark Kent is the alternate persona of superman. No his not! If Clark Kent was the alternate persona of superman he'd be Homelander.

    • @friedfrog5447
      @friedfrog5447 Před 2 lety

      Well superman is the real him

    • @centricthemedic1517
      @centricthemedic1517 Před 2 lety +11

      @@friedfrog5447 No, Superman is not the real him. He views both Clark Kent and Kal-El as his true identities when under the lasso of truth.

    • @friedfrog5447
      @friedfrog5447 Před 2 lety +3

      @@centricthemedic1517 He doesn't have 2 personalities. One is a disguise and the other isn't.

    • @robadob55
      @robadob55 Před 2 lety

      When he wakes up every day he’s not Clark Kent he’s Kal’El. Clark Kent is Superman’s critique on Humanity

    • @mauroquartuccio6088
      @mauroquartuccio6088 Před rokem +2

      @@robadob55 that's only the tarantino take I believe

  • @anthonyhenriques7654
    @anthonyhenriques7654 Před rokem +6

    damn I didn't even realize that they swapped out child actors between seasons 1 and 2 for the kid who plays Homelander's son until watching this video

  • @dandynoble2875
    @dandynoble2875 Před 2 lety +12

    "The lock they have on this industry, on this medium."
    Japan:
    >

  • @TheMotherofTacos
    @TheMotherofTacos Před měsícem

    This was one of the best video essays I've seen in a while. Thanks, my dude.

  • @zayanredacted2502
    @zayanredacted2502 Před rokem +5

    lmao i like how he called the radicalized stormfront fan videogamedunkey

  • @ryanblack8392
    @ryanblack8392 Před rokem +11

    See I like the show more then the comics because its not a constant grim dark world where its constant pain and suffering that only the most edge lords would decry as the best series ever.
    It has those moments where it lets characters have happiness and I think that makes the show infinity better.

  • @lvsparrowvl559
    @lvsparrowvl559 Před rokem +2

    I’ve will never look at The Boys the same again. Really, such a fantastic job with this video.

  • @ltcrescent4011
    @ltcrescent4011 Před rokem +10

    I think I could defiently compare the boys to the manga 'Gantz'. Both stories are ridiculously gory, sexual, and edgy, but both have a real heart to them, with gantz being about the beauty of human relationships and being a story of hope, and the boys being about healing wounds

  • @ScarletCharlotte
    @ScarletCharlotte Před 2 lety +32

    How dare you describe a show based on a Garth Ennis work in a way that makes me cry about how understanding it is of personal trauma and growth. I really dislike Ennis' shock-jock writing approach, especially towards superheroes, to the extent I've refused to watch The Boys. But the way you talk about it... Well now I gotta.

  • @RadicalRoe
    @RadicalRoe Před 5 měsíci

    A truly powerful analysis. I sobbed, thank you.

  • @playlistmaster6970
    @playlistmaster6970 Před rokem +4

    As someone who comes from America I hate how half of my entertainment comes from people more concerned about who they are rather than making an entertaining story

  • @declanseefeld963
    @declanseefeld963 Před 2 lety +8

    Thank you for doing a The Boys video!!!

  • @adamtaylor5761
    @adamtaylor5761 Před 2 lety +5

    Can't wait to see this channel blow up. Such great work as always!

  • @trafalgarlaw7873
    @trafalgarlaw7873 Před rokem +5

    DUDDEEEEE, I’ve been looking for someone like you, this video was made so good and made me look at the boys way differently

  • @sladewilson9718
    @sladewilson9718 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Surprised you didn’t cover Black Noir’s trauma❤ That was pretty well done too

    • @jordanford9320
      @jordanford9320 Před 11 měsíci +2

      That was season 3 and he made this before season 3

    • @sladewilson9718
      @sladewilson9718 Před 11 měsíci

      @@jordanford9320 ik yeah, realised that when I watched his next one👍🏼

  • @josiahanunciacion4500
    @josiahanunciacion4500 Před rokem +5

    I legitimately can’t even look at a picture of Toni Starr in real life without being even a little fearful anymore.

  • @alexraven805
    @alexraven805 Před rokem +3

    I had to compare Homeland and Frankenstein (the creature) in an exam and the conclusion was that they are basically the same.

  • @starlingswallow
    @starlingswallow Před 4 měsíci

    This was beautifully done, Sir ❤
    My favorite parts were your soft, psychological insights about the characters, their trauma and how it mirrors humanities wounds and mistakes. It actually made me cry~ and I hadn't _seen_ these things while watching....
    I'll have to re-watch with your insights in mind!
    Big hugs! Keep up the amazing videos, friend!

  • @Quentino808
    @Quentino808 Před rokem +2

    Watching this got me reliving my own trauma, past and present. Can't say that most shows and especially superhero films (as much as I love them) bring that much emotion out of me but this has. Haven't even watched the show yet, but I can confidently say it's great. I thought it was a superhero parody cash grab, but it's sooooo much deeper. I'm getting Prime just to watch this

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 Před rokem +3

    Amazing/accurate analysis of seasons 1 and 2 of the boys. I love this show.

  • @MrMarina101000
    @MrMarina101000 Před 2 lety +2

    This video was so awesome! I love your take on the show!

  • @ntravis88
    @ntravis88 Před rokem +7

    After watching all of season 3, I gotta say I'm now excited to see if you'll make another analysis of the themes that persisted and the new developments.

  • @thelazy0ne
    @thelazy0ne Před rokem +2

    Well.. now I'm really going to go ahead and binge this series. Thanks😊

  • @BlackApricot
    @BlackApricot Před rokem +2

    broo that was a pretty epic analysis, and it made me appreciate the show even more

  • @dextergrif2019
    @dextergrif2019 Před rokem +1

    I love this show and I love this video. Great work.

  • @nigerianprince1582
    @nigerianprince1582 Před 26 dny

    I think this is the first 10/10 video I've ever watched. I feel better just from watching

  • @trappolice9560
    @trappolice9560 Před rokem +3

    Coming back after season 3 turns out MM didn’t get over his trauma as wel as we thought

  • @Ripjaws95
    @Ripjaws95 Před 2 lety +2

    Man, this is top quality content. Love this video.

  • @civsav
    @civsav Před 11 měsíci

    Really amazing video man. Brought me joy.

  • @SimonGAMERPolySquad
    @SimonGAMERPolySquad Před 2 lety +3

    Probably one of, if not the best video essays on this show.
    Keep the good content going!

  • @QKvox
    @QKvox Před rokem +1

    The Boys is fantastic, its probably one of the deepest and most captivating shows ive ever watched (2 seasons in)

  • @mudfoot4017
    @mudfoot4017 Před 2 lety +1

    Perhaps your best one yet. Keep up the good work!

  • @jackdailey5238
    @jackdailey5238 Před 2 lety +18

    You’re literally my favorite CZcamsr, always making totally banger videos

  • @emmanuelsawiri2228
    @emmanuelsawiri2228 Před 2 lety +15

    If there is a show with the theme of Trauma embedded in it's DNA is The Leftovers, if anyone is interested with a show with a lot of misery, tears and dealing with loss, then it's your cup of tea

  • @spookyy7665
    @spookyy7665 Před rokem +13

    my only problem with the entire series seems to be the inconsistency with how strong some of the characters are. Maeve basically going one on one with Homelander really makes him less terrifying. Makes you question why people were so afraid of him in the first place, same thing with starlight, she feels utterly weak. Feels like one minute they can stop a train with their big toe then the next they're afraid of a gun. My take on things anyways

  • @aridbreeze8613
    @aridbreeze8613 Před rokem +1

    The last clip though ... really touches your ideals on what superhero really is .... an American dream ...

  • @MaxAndCheese0917
    @MaxAndCheese0917 Před rokem +1

    I love this show so much

  • @vollblutchaotin
    @vollblutchaotin Před 11 měsíci

    I started watching this show just this year (missed out on it, I know) and I was hooked by the first and blown away by the second episode. It's full of really dark humour, gross gore and very vile but also very genuine moments. But it feels so real it is actually a very unpleasant portrait of the real world. The characters feel real, not just like sketches of themselves. My heart drops every time a character goes into some major trauma mode. Every trauma is different, and so are the motivations and partly crooked thoughts of the individual behind it.
    I love how they made this show a perfect mix of gut-wrenching thriller, subtle romance and total violence. Just everything where/how it needs to be without being cringe or overdrawn at any time.
    Watched all seasons availabble in two weeks and I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT ONE!

  • @Formallyknownashandle
    @Formallyknownashandle Před 2 lety

    Thank you for this video.

  • @kennethbemister7334
    @kennethbemister7334 Před 2 lety +18

    Another great video dude! Well done!

  • @Sam-mx8lb
    @Sam-mx8lb Před rokem +1

    this was beautiful, good job man

  • @CharlesVanNoland
    @CharlesVanNoland Před 2 lety +2

    Made me tear up at the end. It most definitely is ideal.

  • @misterx4757
    @misterx4757 Před rokem +1

    Great post. Love your analysis.

  • @dareenabdalkarim1444
    @dareenabdalkarim1444 Před 2 lety +1

    Damn this video is amazing. Keep up with the great work

  • @jonathanschmidt7874
    @jonathanschmidt7874 Před rokem

    this was really good. Thanks for the great analysis.

  • @itswes9686
    @itswes9686 Před rokem +1

    watching this hurt so bad because i relate so much

  • @FTMothman
    @FTMothman Před rokem +4

    Hughie in that scene where he saw all the A-Train stuff hit too close to home, that’s all I can say now.

    • @KnoxCarbon
      @KnoxCarbon Před rokem +1

      Did a famous person do something shitty to you, bro?

  • @Puppy_Puppington
    @Puppy_Puppington Před 2 lety +1

    This was so beautifully put together. Thank you.

  • @anslemrichardson7836
    @anslemrichardson7836 Před 2 lety +2

    Really nice work. Kinda nailed what we’re going for. Bravo. 👏🏿

  • @Betito1171
    @Betito1171 Před 2 lety

    I wish I could understand things like you do