If U Use GitHub CO-PILOT I Wont Hire You!?
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I caught myself turning off copilot whenever I want to learn something new or think through a problem without the AI distracting me.
There are many ways copilot can work with the developer at all levels. For me, it just takes away all the tedious stuff I was going to type anyways. For example, when I create a model function, copilot just knows the style I write it in and the desired return result I want. This allows me to develop parts of my codebase faster and get me testing it faster. Its a productivity tool for me. Kind of like how LSPs help with productivity as well.
That being said, I have a good idea of when copilot helps me and when it gets in my way. Will be looking at removing it from my auto completions list and mapping copilot suggestions to a keymap instead.
I use copilot as auto complete tool, there are ways to use copilot. dont use copilot is just as stupid as use copilot for everything.
Your comment on writing boilerplate being good is absolutely true!
It's like an on-ramp to your flow state where you know what to write, and it brings you into...your trail of thought, kind of bootstrap the structure of the program in your brain, so you can start extending the different parts of it and make them relate to each other.
Without writing the boilerplate, I need to read and review the copilot to get the same handle of the system and it's simply not as fun!
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My last company tried to force their engineers to use co-pilot and I never used it. Found it caused more issues during PR's, teammates relied on it way too often and without it they lacked any sort of brain cell for problem solving. It became a crutch for them, without it they couldn't do a damn thing nor think for themselves
I don't use it because I hate conventional solutions and "best practices". I don't think there's only 1 good way of approaching things but several
LOL that cat called you a "brogrammer" LOL
Not using copilot has helped me write less code and do more with less. With copilot I can write a lot of code really fast but the maintenance cost of the lower quality code is terrible.
I only copilot to write a boilerplate or autofill a large object. Often time, when I rely on Copilot to write a specific function, it gives me spaghetti code
that likely means the rest of your codebase is worse than you think, in general copilot always gives me very ok code. it learns from your patterns and gives you something similar to what you have already written
@@user-ek2jc1xf3y It does both. If it generates code that conforms to your style, I am generally happy with the output because it was basically what I was going to write anyways. If it generates code by grabbing results from elsewhere, I am often deleting a lot of it or all of it.
@@JosephMcMurray1984 yeah but let's be fair, that happens the less.
usually it'd only happen if you're looking to introduce something completely new to the codebase, in such cases, I start a GitHub Copilot Chat session and talk about a potential solution, once I understand what needs to be done code wise, I take bits and pieces from the session, paste as comments in the code, indicate it to use certain Classes, Libraries or Functions for the final solution it'll come up with and let it do its thing. This enhances the thought process VASTLY, since instead of focusing on code you focus on interacting with a "peer" to come to a proper solution together.
These tools don’t let you experience good or bad mistakes.
It’s providing you with a premade solution, which could help in some parts of learning yet won’t be great if you’re trying a new solution.
I finally suscribed man, good videos
When I was still a bit green with rust, I used copilot to help me on a project. I ended up rewriting the entire thing months later. Because copilot suggestions were so unreadable and it went around in quite backwards ways of solving problems.
Nowdays I treat AI tools as if I were treating another senior engineer in my team, who has domain specific knowledge: hey, how do I do xyz in zyx framework. Can you show me how to do this in that rust/go/c#/react whatever. I just need it to put me in the generic right direction, so I don't need to google how to use a specific part of a library or something. Or write boilerplate like json schemas.
I used copilot during the preview but I felt like it was taking so much from my learning So stopped using ever since
As someone who learnt web dev from Copilot (Django, HTMX, Alpine) I agree with this take. I had to learn web and go into prod in a couple months having been a numpy and pandas programmer. I appreciate the speed, but the quality of my code has gone down.
Recently I only use it to auto-complete repetitive stuff and when I use it to plan, eg design a database model, I have to put it through all the AI chatbots to feel confident that the code isn't way off. But I still have to design my own code rather than have Copilot do that
I've never used it but tried similar free extensions and they I can't see how anyone would get any value from them. Intellicode is more than enough, I don't want massive chunks of junk code to be flashing up all the time. I do use GPT-4 a lot, all the other AI tools are vaporware.
So basically you're waiting for Primegen to post something and you will try to do a similar thing?
I turned off the auto-suggestion. I found that was just getting in my way... I'd go to use arrows to navigate and right as I'd go to press something, a suggestion would come up. 🙄
Now I use it when I need it, like what @ArcticPrimal said... It is great for boilerplate, but I'll handle all of the actual programming myself since I don't hallucinate quite a much. 🤣
I'm tired of this AI tools in coding. It just always give me looks good if you have no knowledge at all, but even to you know your thing, the output code don't make sense to you either. It is still easier to Google things.
5:12 completely agree, I think there's also a danger that tools like copilot will keep languages and frameworks stale and reduce the rate at which they're evolving.
And I'm not talking about the javascript environment, that could use some slowing down, but other more stable environments could get the wrong hint from the community and think that people are actually ok with the current state of their apis, so there's no reason to improve them.
While in reality everyone is dumping boilerplate into their code through copilot.
And yes, that is still bad, cause at some point you still need to read the boilerplate you dumped, it's not all about the speed of writing things, you must also read and understand the things you read.
Though copilot bros seems to not like talking about that part.
I use AI to manipulate the text at scale. Mostly to transform the data, if I have csv with bunch of stuff and I want part of this data to be turned into json objects AI is perfect. AI is just an assistant for mundane work.
If Copilot was a human being I would call him "educated fool".
People should use copilot but disable it in their main working files, like .ts or .go, and use it for some less important stuff, like documentation or even config files. Plus, you get the copilot chat in the editor itself, which is coming from chat gpt anyway I believe, so it is kinda win win
Also, codeium has the same benefits but free.
@@whynot9963 or Cody
@@CallousCodernever tried that one. Will give it a try 👍
So sorry for grandmama, how is she died? Overdosed drug usage, heart attack? Or something differently else
Copilot
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ooooooh yes
Copilot is like hyperactive LSP
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Why is that? Does talking on youtube require a lot of programmers?
I use Neovim and I am still hopping to see an Emacs comeback. What about that? More seriously I write Java most of the time (intellij saved us) and loves Goland. I wonder what kind of people you are looking for. You should talk more about the kind of people you are trying to hire and how we can contact you(any job post somewhere?). I am looking for a Job(6 years xp) after travelling in Canada an Europe for 1 year. I am back in Belgium and I hate what I am being offered in Belgium. Our companies are old and numb as fuck (late in pretty much everything and scared of evolution). I kind of want to get out of Java and I love Golang as beginner and I am surprised how fast people can pick the language. I still love Java but I hate the companies that use it. I am actually happy to see a Belgian talk about these issues and carry thing that are mostly unthinkable in the Belgian tech space.
I have tried them all. I’m not sure it’s an advantage to code development yet. They aren’t very affective.
They're great for boilerplate...
@@ThomPorter74 yes amazing for boilerplate. i write a 5 liner code and ask to provide me boilerplate of 50 items but just increment numbers and ai tells me: here is your for loop.
i say no, hardcode them i just want 50 of those craps, and ai is: sure here is 1 line and then you fill the rest.
so amazing for boilerplate
yeah exactly chat gpt is a good tool to get knowledge but copying from it 1 to 1? thats pretty awkward
When solving a difficult problem that requires thinking, copilot isn’t anything more than autocomplete on steroids.
Software development is more art than science in my opinion, and to completely stifle your creativity by leaning too heavily on AI tooling is a tragedy.
Timmies seething all over the internet... LMFAO
I'm co-pilot addict, what should i do to get help 😭 ????
just joking, but man this is like some therapy session video, and some how co-pilot is like some bad drugs
I use AI like it's master or I really understand what i'm doing .. If i let it guide me I got lost after a few hours of work..
You learnt well how social networks work hahaha
Genius huh? 😇
w take. Fully agree.
Do most people use copilot in "always-on" mode, meaning I type, I get a suggestion? I think this the default in vscode. If that's the case it makes sense why people are becoming regarded after using it for a while. That will make you a passive soydev and your wife will leave you for Satya Nadella. If you use it actively, by intentionally triggering it to make suggestions at key moments when you know roughly what the results will be, I think it's a way different experience. You go from using it as brain-replacement to a fingers replacement, which in my opinion is a net-positive for your software. Better to put that mental energy towards solving real problems at hand than zoned-out typing some code a language model could have inferred in milliseconds. You're just honing a dying skill at that point.
ChadGPT > TimmyGPT
I use Chat GPT and specify not to provide any code. Can be helpful explaining the problem to yourself 🦆
Even if I only use it to write struct initializers and if err!=nil{return err} ?? 😆
5:20 think faster, maybe? 😁
Im human 🥲
Idk why i laughed so hard at this video 😂
If you use Java, I wont hire you either 😎🤝😎
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I had no issue with Go errors until I stopped using Github Co-pilot. Now without it, writing errors is a chore and a waste of time
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Massive skill issue
yes because typing ife didn't exist for the last 10 years as a snippet.
Literally bind it to a snippet dude, or if you can't figure that out there's a vscode extension which gives you several handy ones for golang
@@dandogamer vscode wtf is that?!
Belgium Trends for X, I thought you were dutch not flemish.
I thought he was Dutch too
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Come on! Don't insult our Dutch language! You hear by the Rs he's speaking pseudo Dutch :P
@@dranon0o Oh nooo one more who can't tell the difference between pseudo-Dutch and real Dutch :P ;)
It's like American English vs Canadian English :P
I agree with the creativity thing, that painter stuff and emotional attachment to a tool, but you are making too many contradictory remarks😮😢
Does your grandma use copilot?
No but she talks about it
More realistically across the entire programming spectrum... if you don't use something like co-pilot you won't get hired... ever. It makes great programmers better... bad developers are still bad with copilot and won't get hired anyways (unless they have connections). It's a skill multiplier. If you have skill issues you'll get lost and it will make things even worse.
If a company will not hire because I use copilot, I wouldn't want to work there anyway 😂 I'm not attached to copilot too much, bo I don't like places where toolset is too strict. Im learning Go and I'm loving it. I'm thinking about switching. Copilot is very helpful with that but I always analyze everything it suggests. I wouldn't let a bit of code in my program that I don't understand. And it's awesome for boilerplate or repetitive code.
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Dont throw your reputation out of the window with these pointless and clickbaity videos. There are lots of people that find your content valuable, you dont have to resort to these cheap tactics to get views